The opinions expressed in this video are mine alone. The ranges of prices in the vintage sports card market are vast so please do your own research and due diligence. And collect what you love.
Mike all great points but I think u should’ve mentioned that almost all vintage was never made rare & became rare over time thru natural selection. Modern cards w artificial rarity don’t have the same appeal to me, they are def cool but not proven commodities like vintage, not to mention a lot of the vintage cards are so beautiful & appealing in & of themselves, incredible designs! It’s like going back in time, owning a piece of history
Anything that is sold as collectible usually will have no upside value. Anything that was never meant to be a collectible is what owns the collectors markets. Vintage cards, tobacco pipes, guns, porcelain signs, license plates, vintage toys... Anything grandpa bought is valuable and anything grandma bought was not.
Awesome Ryan fact: When Randy Johnson was struggling early in his career, he had 1 conversation with Ryan. Ryan suggested he stepped with the front of his foot and not his heel. After that, the rest is history. Went from a mediocre pitcher, to a top 5 in history.
Very cool video and thank you for taking the time to recommend some more affordable vintage that is available. You have an amazing collection period so your advice is definitely welcome in the hobby!
I do not collect much older vintage stuff, (it is hard for me to say 70's and 80's is because that makes me vintage) but I so love looking at them and hearing the history behind the players. Thanks for sharing and looking forward for more vids on this topic.
Great video Mike. I agree, can never go wrong with vintage. The being patient on a card is very hard to do but I've learned personally that its important lol.
I recently posted on twitter the other day that by going vintage I don't have to speculate on HOFers. I made the decision back at the start of 2020 to really build on my existing vintage collection and I'm very happy not really buying much modern these days. Nice video!
@@HereForAStorm most cup cards are. I always thought their first solo card should have been the most valuable. Morgan, Seaver, Carew, Ryan, Bench, Carlton all have very iconic 2nd year cards. Actually, I think the 2nd year Bench is more valuable then the rc.
Excellent video. My dad bought me the 58 Mantle AS for straight A report card back in 83. Love the Home Run book in the background. I won that in 81 topps scratch off mail away. Brings back great memories.
Wow. Very informative. I recently purchased a box of baseball cards from the 1950's in a thrift store. I'm a comics/video games guy, but even I knew the significance of what I bought. Now I'm finding myself looking into the wonderful world of vintage baseball cards. Lol. Take care and stay safe everyone..... 👍💪
On of my favorite very affordable cards is the 58 Topps Mantle/Aaron World Series batting foes. I can see this cards price going through the roof over time.
I just picked up a 1961 Topps Yaz PSA 6 for my Step-Dad. Thanks for the inspiration, he's going to love it! I cant wait until fathers day and your right i was surprised how reasonable some of these vintage cards are. Im thinking of picking up a Carlton Fisk or Rico Petrocelli as well. I just got back in the hobby and i love your channel already, Thanks man.
Great vid and very sound list. Also, very impressive mid grade examples... Those are real beauties! And I agree with you, patience is paramount with vintage. Liked and subscribed with all notifications. Keep up the good work and stay safe. Cheers!
Wow Mike, this is one of your best informative videos you have out out. The information is still relative and entertaining. Only the category of alive and deceased has changed. Really enjoyed this and would like to see more of this type video from your fabulous collection. We think alike and perhaps this is why I enjoy this type of content. Great 25 minute video! How about an update?
Interesting type of video Mike. I’ve been Thinking along these lines a lot lately. Marc talked me into some modern with bigger upside to start with. I want to add some vintage to the “portfolio” too if you will. That will be next. Thanks for sharing!
Well done Mike. Great cards and great knowledge about the players. I know a lot of people hate on the 55 Bowman design but I've always liked it. That Aaron looks great. That 64 topps Frank Robinson is another great looking card. Very clean design. That 62 Yaz looks fantastic for a 6.
Man Mike, I have to say this was a great idea you came up with. You are always coming up with the newest and freshest ideas for videos my friend, I guess that is what makes you, you.
Harmon Killebrew is another. His slugging stats for a 15 span were amazing. Plus the old Met Stadium was 430 ft to center field so I'm sure with todays parks and juiced balls, he would have averaged 50 hrs a season. Plus his first 3 years on the Senators he was a utility player who barely got any AB's.
Great video Mike! Love these types of videos. Great call on Stan Musial. I would add Juan Marichal 61 RC Mays 52 bowman and Topps Frank Robinson Rc and 54 Jackie Robinson are all undervalued
Gr8 video and content Mike... I think you certainly picked some outstanding players for the top 15!!! Love all the sweet card's you showed in this video... My favorite would be the 69topps Bench... Beautiful card!!! Take care and stay safe,healthy,& distance...🙏👍💕🔥⚾
Great choices for your 1st-15 players. Part 2 should start with Tom Seaver, Steve Carlton, & Rod Carew. Lots of greats to choose from. Thanks for sharing.
Great content as always and certainly some cards I hadn't thought about otherwise. I am starting to take my collection in a truly vintage direction. I totally agree with an earlier comment that it's nice to not have to speculate about who will be a hall of famer. I made this point with a friend that was wanting advice on buying an Acuna graded, then I shared with him the 5 vintage I got for the same price. A great book to learn about a lot of these players is We Played the Game. It's subtitle tells it all: Memories of Baeball's Greatest Generation. Again, thanks for the great content. You are one of the reasons I've started making some as well.
I'd suggest the 61 Yaz, it's a full-size image from his 60 Rookie with a 'Star Rookie' on it... and is super affordable. I got an 8 for under 200 which seems pretty light for that grade on any HOF of that era.
These definitely are some great player. I think nearly everyone who collect from this era is buying the cardboard of Mantle and Koufax and Ryan, but the other guys you listed are probably a better value, that is my 2 cents. Thanks for the show and tell.
Hey now Gary carter is the best catcher of all time . (Just in my book) the hank was my first vintage card I bought. Agree completely on that second year Nolan I think the Rose is a good one to grab to. Your videos got me looking at Banks cards now and then .
Waiting for you to mention Warren Spahn . His cards can be had for very reasonable prices n missed 3 seasons WWII n MOST wins as a lefty. Waited for n got the 69T Bench raw for a great price
This is a very good video, and I am on point with you. Although, I would rather "bite the bullet", and buy a high grade RC once per year, because those RC's will always be paramount over the player's other cards.
Cool video Mike. Enjoyed hearing your picks but disappointed you didn't mention the biggest appeal of most vintage players right now and that is dead guys can't get Corona! ;-)
I have been buying up Mantle All Star cards, Aaron, Mays and pre 1975 Ryan's as much as my budget will allow. I buy psa 4-7range and raw ex or better. I think there is the most bang for the buck. A psa 4 or 5 of any of these players should be a nice long term investment 20 years from now. Iconic cards are always a safe bet. The guys with the most star power will always have the greatest return. Frank Robinson is one of the greatest ball players of all time and just will not have the interest of an Ernie Banks. Same type of stats but Banks played on a much larger market. If Frank played for the Sox or Yanks he would be among the legends.
Not sure if I missed it, but Jackie Robinson should be at the top of the list. ‘54, ‘55, and ‘56 Topps are still super reasonable, and his stuff is like Aaron, Mantle, Mays, Williams and Clemente...always appreciating. Yaz and Banks, while legends, don’t seem to move much. Musial and Spahn should get waaay more hobby love. Enjoyed the video Mike!
Baseball Collector web.williams.edu/Economics/wp/mathesonmemorabilia.pdf Also a video floating around. I will never advise against someone buying a dead guy. But more likely buying a living guy will have better future returns. Sure some pass away and prices (almost always pop). Then its a retrace to current trend line or stay up for good. Ernie banks saw it when he passed. The worst time to buy is right after a death. Just trying to make our finite collector dollars go further. Ill dig for video and i need to see what kaline did recently.
Very interesting video. I like the subjects and cards suggested. One question I have. Are you suggesting these for investment purposes or collection purposes? I think everything is relative to price, but you can go wrong with the former when it comes to the grade. I think the universal safety net is eye appeal. How does the card look to you? If you like it and the price is right, you can't go wrong. But if you're buying at an iffy price, or you're just buying the subject to buy the subject, and the card looks mangled or flawed in areas that are unacceptable to most collectors, you're most likely going to get hurt - at least with the former in my question. Some food for thought. Great video!
Nice list. I can't really come up with a good reason why, but I have no desire at all to own a Mantle card. I guess it's just something about me going against the flow and not wanting what everyone else does.
I love collecting vintage cards! Condition is not so important to me, as I was able to pick up some cool Mantles, Koufax’s, Mays, Ted Williams, etc... that I couldn’t have afforded otherwise. I collect for the love of it, not for the money. Be safe!
Baseball Collector thanks! What’s great about the hobby is that everyone has their own point of interest and passion. I started in the 1970s and collected to the mid-90s. Several years ago I got back into collecting and have been into vintage (50s) and completing my 60s, 70s sets. I also have collected 2016- present, plus various favorite players & Dodgers. Some people are mainly into rookies, others into inserts, grading - it’s all good!!!
Mike, sorry for the latent comment but stumbled across this today and just wanted to say excellent job. You threw up many of the cards that I would have. In particular like with the '55 B Aaron - it's still a big discrepancy between what some 2nd year cards are valued at vs. the more well-known rookie cards. And good points that even with a Mantle, even with a Ted Williams - there is something for everyone in the hobby at all various price points.
Great video Mike. Think your list was right on, might of gone Seaver over Ryan. Love Ryan cards but they are so expensive already. Also unfortunately Seaver isn’t in the best of health. Really enjoyed it Mike! Thanks.
@@BaseballCollector only thing about ruth, I would maybe think the percieved unatainability of his cards might impact his hobby popularity but he is a definite contender for sure
I'm two years behind the power curve for this video. But I loved the old cards and loved the cards you picked. Dumb question, the term "vintage" gets thrown around a lot. What is the community norm for that statement? I think your oldest card was the 1972 Topps Ernie Banks. How far in the 70's would you go? Or would you go all the way to 1980 Topps? Does vintage change every year on 01JAN? I'm sure all this sounds ridiculous but I'm legitimately curious. Also, this is a two year old video, so you may never see this question either... Thanks!
I see you. LOL. Vintage is usually used in the hobby to describe cards made between 1948-1980. You would think it would ne a continually moving target but it is not for some reason. Good question
@@BaseballCollector thank you. That is what I had figured, since it seems like the “junk wax” or print “boom era” started around 1981 and last for 20 years or so. Thanks again!
Fantastic video and list! All the cards are great but I really want to get the 55 Bowman Aaron, 53 Campanella and the 69 Ryan. The Ryan prices, overall, still surprise me and I think we’ll look back and realize how undervalued they ALL are. Ripken is the Iron Man but Nolan Ryan was absolutely the pitcher’s equivalent. To pitch from ‘68 through ‘93 in the manner he did is ridiculous. Ok, rant done! Hahha. Awesome video man!
I was just looking at berras the other day and thought the same thing. His cards are so cheap for the player he is. Was looking at a 52 topps psa 3 and they’re only 175 ish, seems way to cheap
@@BaseballCollector its funny you know how you were talking about the 2nd year cards? I was just doing the same thing on my channel telling everyone that the 2nd year mo rivera bowman card is such a better looking photo/ baseball card. Even though beckett price guide does not put down the rc next to the mo 1993 i know he didnt play until 1995 just like jeter. 1993 jeter bowman is a true rc but only cause he didnt have the 92 bowman? What do you think about this Mike? Im a mike too. Great video man thanks for your videos!
@@BaseballCollector i can see why it doesnt matter to alot of people but i would think it matters to you and heres why. You collected during the price guide era. You im sure used to have a beckett near you almost always when you went to card shows in the 90s yes? Card shows and shops are almost nearly gone. So much of the selling is done on ebay, ebay to me was a tool a useful tool in which we could expand our collections and possibly further our collections or buying / selling it was an awesome tool a bonus. Not intended to consume the market and run the prices of our cards. Beckett price guide used to mean something and we both know it doesnt anymore. Howd that happen? I think for one obviously we all let it happen we never tried to.stop the ball from rolling over and letting it get this way. Why are basketball prices so much more than baseball? Baseball was always king not anymore. Just look at the Jordan rookie 86-87 he was a rookie in 84-85 but they didnt even make basketball cards. When beckett was making their rc description for the card makers to go by and still today theyre communication seems pretty terrible or lack of understanding is obvious, they really messed up the rc issue. When jeter had his rc according to beckett he was a minor league player. His rookie season cards are not considered true rc. In cards newer than 2006 this all of a sudden changed, i think that beckett has done a very poor job with their priceguides and overall decisions over the last 15 years or more. I think between this and ebay and the actual events of mlb steroids the astros etc etc have really hurt the baseball hobby side. Then we get the psa/ pwcc stuff and ebay ghost bidding issues and extra confusion in the makers of the cards and topps basically having the monopoly and only being the 1 company with licensing to make the cards un airbrushed. To me it really shows how strong the baseball card hobbyist people are and how much we all love it so much. I think that alot of guys like you and many others with good people around you should care that beckett priceguides mean next to nothing anymore. I mean if guys like you dont care than who the heck will???
I buy vintage because they are super cozy, which is why I think they will go up in value. The US is a chaotic mess and and looking at a 50's Yogi Berra card is an escape. Plus, modern baseball has waned in interest....I mean the actual game, not the weird "investor" phenomenon of the past few years.
Click bait.... you spend time putting down, mocking, and complaining about modern cards, channels, and collectors.....then rip off guys like Phil and his format and ideas! Trying to pump up your numbers on your channel I see...
yes Henry Arron is the home run king? Bench is the greatest catcher of all time then Munson, then Fisk then Molina? I have 3 Johnny Bench cards 1978, 1979 and 1980? I think it's great that Mr. Koufax is still alive I wish more people were alive? your right on point with Willie ? you might find this hard to believe I only have one Ryan and it's a 1979 card? 0 Yaz cards not even a 1979 1980 nothing from him. I actually got to see Roberto when I was a kid when the Pirates played the Mets also during the game of the week yeah your 100% correct he was a great great player? I'm sure you can figure out I have the reprints of Mr.Mantle yes I have the 1952 but it's a reprint? I did enjoy this video. I have some questions so what do you think about 3 Johnny Bench cards 1979 1978 and 1980 the 1979 has a crease but I got it in a pack that probably was 25 or 30 cents back then we didn't have sheets and binders so where we kept the cards that put the crease in the card. owning only 1 Nolan Ryan which is a 1979 ? I have a Rickey Henderson had 2 sold one years ago mid 1990's got both cards in packs that cost 30 cents in 1980 sold one at a show for about 85.00 today I wish I had the card? but I still have 1 Rickey Henderson I have an Ozzie Smith 1979 . what do you think about players like this 1980 Rickey Henderson , 1979 Ozzie Smith, 1975 Robin Yount , 1975 George Brett? I have a 1979 Dennis Eckersly card it's a 1979, 1978 Trammel and Molitor rookie, 1973 Mike Schmidt what do you think about these cards? there not 1948 bowman, there not 1951 playball there not 1961, 1964 and 1969 Topps but there nice cards or there not nice what do you think about these 70's cards?
First off, I clicked the "like" button. I found this video concept amusing because it seems like you are putting a spin (i.e. ripping off 😜) on the types of videos that Philmington, Dead Guy Cardboard, and Silver Jackify already do with prospects, which rack up tons of views and I know that's important to you. However, I do disagree that many of the "cards to get" happen to be the "cards that BBC already owns". Then again, the click bait-ish title is definitely more interesting than something like "12 mid-grade slabs of HOF'ers in my collection".
Well you just have me completely figured out don't you? Yes, I took others' ideas and used them to talk about an area of the hobby I enjoy (vintage) when they typically talk about modern. I also "happen to have" almost every card of each of the players I mentioned so I could have used any of them, but chose the ones I did for the reasons I mentioned in the video. But really keen of you to point out those things. Kudos. Gold star for you.
Haha yeah Mike stole my idea! Lol. Honestly I love these type of videos. They take some serious research and you take some risk of looking like an ass if someone buys the card and it doesn’t work out. You should weigh in on current players (more risk) but not sure if you would be into that.
