@@TheShowtime85 Turbo engines are just as reliable if designed correctly. I doubt the 2.4t would have had any issues in 150k miles. The RMS and FASs should not have leaked in only 150k miles. The starter and pulleys should not have gone out in only 150k miles.
Thank you for the updates! I love the fact that you not only kept this rig for 150k+ hard miles, but you did it without spending 10s of thousands on unnecessary instagram mods like bumpers, light bars, roof racks, etc!
I think it might take some time for that just simply by the fact of how many will be on the road. I think the subset of people who love the bullet proof reliable, low tech cars (myself included, I have a 21} is fairly low and the hype of the new ones may over shadow that initially. Like with the 4th gen, took a little while for them to fall back in favor. Anyway, just my guess. My 5th gen is by far my favorite car I have ever had and plan to keep forever
Jim thanks for another great video and update. I have a 2022 TRD OR with 9k all on the road but looking to do some amateur off-roading. Your videos are over-the-top inspiring keep them up.
Love Toyota’s. I had a 2018 Cement TRD Sport Tacoma with the 6-speed manual transmission that I absolutely loved, put 70,000 miles on which is nothing, but wanted a 4Runner so I jumped the gun when dealerships were offering high prices on trade in with low interest rates still. I bought my 2022 SR5 in Magnetic Gray Metallic and love it. I really wanted a silver 4Runner but for some reason allocations for one were hard at that time. My 4Runner isn’t even a year and a half years old yet and I have 30,000 miles on it already. Ordered myself a low profile bumper on it which I can’t wait to put on! I’ll drive this thing till it falls apart, which I don’t think will ever happen LOL. Love the ride and your 150,000 mile review!
Always informative and good content. I have no idea how you managed to not have a major scratch or dent in that thing after 150,000 miles of hard usage. Amazing. Mine got desert pinstriped the first time out. Sigh...lol.
Thank you! I get lots of Bush pinstripes but rub them out. I made a video a few years ago about it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gIBjaKQEY_A.html I’ve put a few dents in the truck from tree limbs popping up after I roll over them. I have a really good PDR guy “paint-less dent repair” he taps them out from the inside when he’s done you can’t even tell the dent was there. I backed into a Camouflage mailbox one night. Yes camouflage 😂 I couldn’t see it. Anyway big dent. He got it out like it was nothing. It is crazy how good the truck still looks. I’ve probably rubbed it out 30 times. I watched a show on TV, at the 4runner prado GX plant in Japan they put more coats of paint than they do on the US plants. I believe it the paint is tough as nails. Also interesting they clear coat all colors except plain white that’s just base coat no clear.
I have a brand new 2023 TRD-ORP and a '71 'cuda, so it was nice to see the picture of you towing a 'cuda behind your 4Runner... Also, thank you for the use report of your 4Runner, it's very informative.
I have a 2019 4Runner TRD Off Road, modified for long range overlanding/cross country trips, including long range tanks, and the Magnuson supercharger to make highway driving less tedious lol. I have driven it across Canada 4 times ( From Vancouver to Halifax and back, twice), across western and mid-west USA and as far south as Baja Mexico. I'll never sell it! I have been subbed for about 4 years (since I think your first videos) and love seeing people actually using the 4Runner off road! I always like your videos!
Congrats on the new rig. I’m a 170k and the rear main has stopped leaking since the repair at 150k. 🤞 Haven’t done any deep water crossings or heavy mudding since then. Might have something to do with it!😂
awesome. interesting hearing about different 4runner owners maintenance and repairs. I could be wrong, but I believe you forgot to mention your ARB rear diff breather. I think I heard you mention that in your mods video a year or two ago
Jim, the yoke, in the drive line, is also called a ‘Cardan’ joint. My ‘97 2.7 liter 4WD 4runner had that too. I never heard the clunking sound, but that is just another name I am aware of for that part. I had an A340E auto trans in mine. I wish I didn’t get rid of it. Now I’m trying to find a replacement 3rd or 5th gen. I am steering clear of all 4th gens. Nice rig you have there. I still have old videos of myself driving around on my channel.
You really took this truck off road and really beat the shit out of it. Damn, can’t say a lot of trucks will take that kinda of abuse and still going strong
Jim, good video!! I have a 2020 TRD Pro 4Runner and love it and have zero issues with mine so far. I also have a second vehicle 2007 Ram 2500 with a 6.7 Cummins in mine that I use to tow my 5th wheel camper. I also, in a previous life, used to haul classic and antique cars with a 1 ton Ram Dually and had a 48' three car trailer. Love my Runner and my Ram!!! I would love to see a video of your Ram while in action. Please post one if you can.
Very helpful info. That rear main seal x4 at 150,000 is a bit troubling. My 99 Jeep XJ was the same, and now finally getting my hands on a new Runner I was hoping to graduate from that annoyance, so will keep an eye out. Thank you for this Video sir.
Thanks for your honest review sorry to hear about your rear main seals going bad those are not cheap! Also keep an eye on your front diff needle bearings from going bad which is a new diff. Cheers!
Thanks! Yea had two replaced under warranty and two @$1,000 each after. They put the bearing in a little farther so it misses the wear grove. Seams to be working for now. Needle bearing are still good. FYI you can just replace the needle bearings with a aftermarket bushing if they fail.
My 2014 just rolled 200,000 on Oct 27. This beast is a SR5, MODS = King shocks and struts with 2" lift, Nitto 17" tires, undercarrage plate protection, rock rails, and underhood Dimaier compressor. I have always kept it in the garage when not on the road. Lots of trails, beaches, and great BLM jaunts. Looki g like the Tesla CT is coming online just in time.
I waited on a waitlist for six months and recently got my 2023 4Runner TRD Offroad Premium. Indeed, these seats are amazing! Planning on having this thing forever and doing tons of offroading. Hopefully I don't replace ANY rear main seals, absolutely bizarre to hear this truck needed so many.
I recently hit 156k on my 2013. I honestly was never a Toyota fan, I really wanted a Wrangler but the 4Runner just checked all the boxes of what I actually needed in a vehicle, however, this thing has impressed me. The only actual repair I've done since I bought it 4 years ago with 80k was the AC was not blowing that cold, I had it recharged at 105k. Other than that it's been all regular maintenance. Zero issues with the main seal, however, I don't do a lot of off-roading and try to avoid mud when I do. I feel like I ruined my last two 4x4s by taking them in the mud too often.
Yea they are great rigs. I’ve had several Jeeps and there is no comparison for a do it all vehicle. I agree the water and mud are hard on them. We are out west now doing some off-roading hasn’t missed a beat. Taking it up Pikes Peak today. I’m at 158k now should hit 160k by the time we get back to FL.
I like how you got good use out of it. Gotta enjoy life and not just keep it in the garage. Toyota does make reliable vehicles. Transmission and engine is still g2g minus your wear and tear items.
I trust your review 😂 I plan to do a similar set up in my old 120 Prado. But I’ll avoid mud and water as much as possible. I don’t wanna pay for extra maintenance 😂😂
Interesting hat you have had that much issue with the rear main seal. 165k and I’m still on the original. The only seal that I’ve done is the output on the transfer case. I’ve crossed water and been through some deep mud puddles but not over the hood deep. Awesome rig.
Thanks Yea we are a little extreme with water and mud. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-D4fidxhA-CE.html If you do a search you’ll see on some of the 4Runner and Tacoma forums a lot of people are having this RMS issue.
Nice video. It just shows how well these vehicles are made. You probably would have mentioned it but have you thought about adding a Pedal Commander or Sprint Booster?.
The current Lexus GX “same chassis as 4Runner” still has a V8 I think that’s the one to get if you want a V8. We had a 05 GX470, great rig I’d pick it over the 4th gen a lot more head room, taller design.
Nice to see someone else with the RCI skid plates. Not so much that you're using them, but that they aren't really the best-made product. As soon as I saw the logo I looked to see if the splash guard was bowed up between the two main mounting bolts in the interface between the main engine skid and the splash guard. Mine is bowed up in the middle and barely has any purchase on the splash guard. I often have to scrape mud or sticks out of the gap it creates. Waiting for the day it just gets ripped off completely. Oh, and I’ve gone through 2 of those front valences as well with a water crossing and backing out of deep snow. 6 wood screws did the trick 😂
Lol I thought about getting a SR5 bumper so I wouldn’t have to keep reattaching mine. 😂 Yea not impressed with RCI. They also rust really bad, (no primer) especially where they sit on top of each other. Crappy product in my opinion. When I told them they crack at the weld first time I used them they said they would give me 10% off a new one. I at least expected they would reimburse me to get them welded/fixed. Garbage product!
@@jschwartzlow I'm not completely sure. C4 maybe? I went with CBI for my fuel tank skid and it was a horrible experience with them having to ship me several replacement parts before just giving up and sending me a whole new skid kit that fit. I ended up getting a winch bumper that took the place of the guard, so I bolted the RCI splash guard to the front of the CBI fuel skid to cover some glaring design issues with the fuel skid. It's been a damn adventure.
@@Cypress1983 I had good experiences with Budbuilt years ago on 2005 Tacoma and 2012 Tundra. Both held up until I sold the trucks. I mostly had them for insurance vs bashing them weekly.
I have a 2015 LTD bought new with currently 155k miles. Obviously very limited offroad use. I've had to change out the A/C blower (luckily easy DIY). One annoyance has been the front doorlock actuators. On my 3rd passenger side and 2nd driver side, and neither currently work. Truck pretty much drives exactly as it did from the showroom floor. Not a squeak to be heard. I have the leather seats, and they are in fantastic shape. The steering wheel could use some black shoe dye. Still planning on getting it to 300k miles.
I got a brand new 2017 FJ (outside US of course), the only issue I have had has been the AC going off in certain conditions, fixed it by replacing the relay.
Your videos are the inspiration I use to take my 2020 4runner off roading. I'm still amazed on how capable these 4runners are. Like yours, I prefer to keep the mods on the mild side as I don't need the extra weight of steel bumpers, racks, etc. I'm glad to hear the OME's are serving you well. I run Eibach's on my rig and love them. Question: what brand of UCA and LCA did you go with? Also, do you think a Magnussen super charger would help/hurt for traveling or off roading?
Thank you so much! Really appreciate the comment. My upper control arms are SPC Adjustable the lowers are stock Toyota arms. Don’t have any experience with superchargers on this engine. Glad your having fun with your 4Runner! 😉👍
If you plan on venturing off the beaten path a supercharger is going to use more gas so you may want to consider a larger fuel tank or additional tanks. Superchargers do bring down reliability which is why Toyota stopped offering them as an option.
Pretty cool video. I'm considering trading in my 2014 Tundra for a 4RUNNER. I appreciate you taking the time to go over the pros & cons for ur 4RUNNER. I've been to Babcock Ranch. Nice new area. I'm up a little north in Venice, FL. Thanks again!
Just traded in my 2012 Tundra for a new 4Runner. Lots of pros and cons Initially, I am missing the power of the Tundra. I will need the 4Runner to tow 5000lbs 2x a year for 250 miles round trip and uphill. I am questioning it's ability there and wondering if I will need to add air bags. Do love the clean cargo area and smaller size in urban use. Much better trail vehicle.
@@freddie3159 For me, I haven't noticed any burning of oil. I'd be concerned if a Toyota vehicle that is as young as mine was burning oil at a noticeable rate. I take mine in for routine servicing every 5K miles and do the suggested 10K miles oil change. 177,xxx miles and counting....
I got a Lexus GX470. I wanted a V8 4runner but all of them were beat to crap and people wanted a premium for it. Got my v8 power with the Lexus and I am happy with it. Its all the same vehicle anyhow.
One thing I neglected on my 2011 that I regret is cleaning the inside of the tailgate. If you drive on dirt roads a lot dirt will get in there and will clog the little drain holes. My rear window mechanism broke and when I finally looked in there it was a rusty mess.
Its amazing how much water collects in there after a wash. The first time I washed mine I thought there was a defect because of all of the water in the tailgate. But its just the way they are made. So I can imagine the dirt issue.
Where is the trail Bunny? Why did the seat fag out😂😂? You should be given a new 4runner from Toyota to continue the awesome advertising. I love my 2018. I've been up to Hells revenge multiple times through Florida logging trails and in various other mountains and trails and its never left me stranded. The TRD locking rear-end has been a key player in some areas out west. Great walk around!!
For the way you drive your truck, with that many miles. That isn't too bad for maintenance. I just read an article that had 10 reasons to stay away from the 5th gen 4runner. After reading it, I realized they didn't get the point of the Toyota 4runner. Then the number one point of theirs was it doesn't compare to the competition. They was comparing the 4runner to Jeep wrangler, honda pilot, Ford Bronco and Toyota's highlander and Rav4. Don't get me wrong, my wife has a 2021 Rav4 and it is capable to an extent. But i would never take it places i take my 4runner. I also have an 2018 TRD Off Road. 😊 As for the Jeep and Bronco. Bronco is really cool and i hope they can work the bugs out of it like Toyota does but i wouldn't hold my breath and as for Jeep wranglers, they are capable but not very roomy and they have their own set of problems. I like a company like Toyota that will fix a problem and if it's not broke then why fix it mentality. I felt Jeep had a good motor when they had the 4.0 liter inline 6 but then made a mess of things going to a V6 which is notorious for oil consumption.
I have same year, same colour. Did you do a diff breather? What size are the KO2s? Do you have any videos on how to tow with a 4runner? Great video. Lots of really good info
Nice! I did a home made rear diff breather to the fuel door. 285/70/17 I do have a mods video on my channel Don’t have any tow videos Just hook it up and go! You’ll need to buy a brake controller if you have electric brakes. If you have the towing package it just plugs in under the dash, plug is already there. Thanks!
I have a 17 offroad, never had rear main issues but I did lose 4 and 5th gear at 68K. toyota replaced the trans with a new one no questions asked even out of warranty.
That’s great they covered it. Like I mentioned my rear main was just replaced again. We thought it was still leaking but it just must have been residual oil. It’s been dry so fingers crossed. I’ll probably stay out of deep mud and water for a while and see how it holds up.
Best of luck on the next 150k! Haven't even hit 15k yet on my '21 ORP, lol. Work from home has been great! Getting ready to do the first greasing of the drive shafts on mine this weekend. Folks on the forums are mostly saying they grease the slip and u-joints every 15k-30k. Also they advise against packing too much into the slip joint as it can (supposedly) hydro lock it (it's meant to be able to move back and forth). Sorry to hear about the rear main seals. Hoping to not experience the same (we won't do any heavy off-roading for another couple years or so).
Hey Jim, I've watched a number of your videos and am curious about the recovery gear you use in detail. I think It's great that you don't do the classic winch and use a come along instead. Brand? Kind of straps? Etc? Thanks much. Pat
Hi, I bring a come along, yank strap, shovel, axe, cutters, and pull rope. Not sure on brands just cheap stuff off Amazon or eBay. Sometimes I’ll bring traction boards.
HI Jim! cool vid! looking to piclk one up as my go to camping vehicle. Was curious... how many miles you think youll get out of this vehicle? Buying a used vehicle close to 100k was curious what your experience or anyones experience thus far in ling use. Thanks everyone for any input/experience on this.
Did you put an extension on the transmission vent? I believe it's on top of the tranny and don't want water in there doing those water crossings. A mechanic on RU-vid said you can't lift the 4runner, messes the bearing up or something like that? Was the suspension soft when you got it, nosedives, bouncing and rolling? Maybe put clear silicone over the main seal? It would just peel off you need to work on it.
I did not. I’ve never had water get into the transmission and I did a lot of deep water crossings. I’ve had. The OME lift for 180k miles and no bearing issues. The rear main seal has a spinning crank inside so you really can’t seal it with anything. I tried sealing the housing but I think water and mud can still get through by the starter/flywheel area. I really have not done any deep water crossings since the last time we replaced the rear main seal. Probably 35k miles and after the residual oil was gone, it stopped leaking completely. The original suspension was like a floating sponge so much better after the OME lift.
Thanks! No shake, just have to make sure they balance them good. The paint mark on the new tire lines up to the valve stem. If still shake have the tire road forced balance.
Great video, thanks. I've got a 2020 TRD off-road and love it. Recently though, I've noticed that if it's very cold out or if the vehicle has sat for 3 days or more that it's a little stiff shifting into drive. When this happens, the ECO light on the dash does not come on and it tends to rev much higher on the freeway. Once it warms up, I can usually pop it into neutral, back into drive, and everything works fine again. I have an ARB snorkel line from the rear end up to the engine compartment. While I don't do a lot of water crossings, I have done a couple that were maybe 14 in deep. I just rolled 37,000 miles. Any thoughts on this?
Thanks! Not sure what that could be. Maybe have the trans fluid level check. I know when they are a little low they don’t want to engage and will slip until they get up to temp. The 4Runner has a seal unit. You’ll have to check it underneath “plug”or take it to a shop. Could also be a trans solenoid acting up when cold also 🤷🏻♂️
Reall surprised with all the water and mud you’ve never had a problem with the ADD system. No issues with the axle disconnect for 4wd? Or the transfer case senors for 4hi and 4lo?
@@jimerinrose6235 Yeah my FJ has the same. They actually still have sensors. Actually autos have 3. Basically indicator switches but won’t let you turn on the locker if the 4low Indicator one goes out. Some people bypass and wire them to manual 2 position switches. Anyways good to hear you’ve had no issues with any of that stuff!
Hey which OME suspension you have? the nitrocharger (yellow shocks) or BP51?. I'm looking for a lift for my 23 ORP but I feel that the BP51 is a bit overkill besides a $4500 suspension lift...
I've heard some people installing a Differential breather valve and running it up to the firewall. Have you looked into this? I am going to be picking a 5th gen shortly and looking into installing that mod.
I have a homemade rear diff breather comes out next to the gas filler behind fuel door. Front diff and transfer case have raised breathers from the factory.
You’re Welcome! 😉👍Come to think about it I did just replace the bushings on the uppers. The lowers had the bushings replaced once then the second time I just replaced the whole arms. Definitely the week link on these rigs if you offroad a lot.
@@jimerinrose6235 I think he is referring to the front carrier bearing that causes vibrations/wears out relatively quick on the driver side where the CV goes into the differential housing.
@e_alvarez91 I have a 19 4RUNNER, just had the ECGS bushing installed. Bearing went out twice, 2nd time, I drove to NC to have them install it, drives like a dream now!
It might get a little in but it has a tiny drain hole in the bottom of the box. Never notice any damage to the paper filter and never took any water in on deep crossing.
@@jimerinrose6235 gotcha! I’m from palm beach county and have a TRD offroad, I have some more questions about the rear main seal. Is there a quicker way for us to communicate maybe?
Guys you’ve probably answered this in previous posts but I haven’t seen it. What suspension are you running and what heights? I also have a silver 18 ORP.
Yes, just fold down the rear seat and use a single person air mattress so one person can sleep/rest while the other is drivin. I’m 6ft tall but if I bend my legs I fit. Pretty comfy. So the bed is on one side all are other stuff on the other side.
I tried premium pads the first time. Didn’t notice any difference. Last time I replaced all the rotors and pads was with factory Toyota parts. I also made sure to break them in correctly otherwise the rotors seem to warp. parts.olathetoyota.com/blog/break-in-toyota-rotors
2013 with 104000. Oil every 5000 miles. PCV and plugs at 100000. Brakes and rotors. 3 qt drain and fill 100000 as Toyota recommends WS fluid. Always avoid substitutes.
How often or little have you had to use the rear locker when doing more serious off roading? Can you give any advice from experience on the rear locker and ATRAC combo. That's the main reason I'm looking at a TRD Off Road. Thanks
I use the rear locker a lot on climbs. It makes a big difference. Atrac is nice to slow down the wheel spin on the lose tire. Of the two the rear locker is the alpha. I’d definitely get the TRD if you are going to be doing serious off-roading.
@@jimerinrose6235 Thanks. I have a 4th Gen Sport now with sliders, 33's and 3 in OME suspension lift. We go to Windrock in Oliver Springs, TN and it does fine. You should go if you have never been! Some of my buddies have triple locked Land Cruisers or ones with rear lockers so I am trying to decide between 5th Gen with rear locker and a 80 series LC. I know 80 series LC with triple locking diff (hard to find) will do better in serious terrain, but I also want a daily driver that can hang. Thus the 5th Gen 4R with rear locker.
Nice rig! But you’re really missing out. It’s like buying a boat and driving around with it on the trailer. Life’s too short, get out there and live it. I’m at 172k running hard changing my own oil every 10k. Either of our trucks could get totaled out tomorrow. It’s the life lived that outlast it all! Plan an off-road trip you won’t regret it.
