150 - 200 mil/hour Dual-Painite mining | Advanced miners guide | Elite Dangerous 

I literally just did that now.

Lmao I'm doing that right now. *Laughs in overuse of limpets*

Doesn't it make it so much worse though when you see them racking up the money and you're just floating through space mining nothing but Bullshitium?

need a miners guild discord for ED commanders

@@GeoffPG there is, try IMU ( www.reddit.com/r/EliteMiners/comments/7yhlnt/intergalactic_mining_union_dedicated_to_you/ )

If mining only for about an hour is desirable, I would use an Anaconda. Besides, it has better larger distro which easily powers 5 lasers, maybe even 6 if using weapon focused.

@@attilawiszmeg Hybrid Guardian Distro is a good choice too.

giving me ptsd man D:

I remember when you had to find companion stars and planets by watching for parallax and star occlusion while flying around blindly in supercruise.

Alrighty grandpa.

and i remember elite.

I remember when your ship was just a triangle, and you shot little square dots at giant rocks.

Planning on getting the cutter, how much empire rank grind does it require?

You'll need to advance to the Empire rank of Duke, a fairly long process to be sure. But the grind is easy: it's called the Ngallin Run. You do Courier Data Delivery Missions between Hickam Survey in Ngallin and Mies Van Der Rohe's Claim in Mainani. The two systems are only 4 ly away from each other and there is only one station in each system so it's easy to grab a bunch of missions at each station and just shuttle back and forth. You need a small or medium ship because they are small stations. I used a Python with a bunch of cargo bays since you might have to do a cargo mission to rank up. There are plenty of "Empire grind" videos that explain the process, this one is short and to the point: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0YatZYO0RiY.html

I use a Cutter with my "golddigger" build. (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_CRgVo8NPYc.html)

Hmm I never did that bu I just assumed that option removed it from your target list. Didn't know it affected Refinery operation. Does i remove it from your target list too? If so, how do you "un-ignore" the material?

@@JohnVanderbeck The material you add to ignore just becomes Greyed out, so you can still access it to remove it from the ignore list.

I use a python and a clipper.

Keelback mining for Selene Jean is how it should be done.

It's a powerplay module - elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Mining_Lance

I usually check for highest prices of painite on eddb, then the demand (ideally 500+) and then how far is the closest painite2 hotspot and then I go to that hotspot. Anyway... Surface mining is rather random but there probably is something wrong if you get almost no painite asteroids. idk

@@raddysurrname7944 I will do that the next time, maybe everyone checks the mining tool and goes to the same first planetary ring, that should be the reason for almost no painite asteroids maybe x)

I'm on vacation, but when I return i am intrigued to try this style of mining operations. Core mining is ok but the returns are not as good. I average about 20-40 mil an hour with a simple python build

@@Mike__S I fly a python too:) That's more than enough.

@@Mike__S Core mining is great, you just gotta choose the right ship. I find an ASP Explorer to be the biggest cargo hold I can tolerate filling with void opals.

No. They are just very low probability sometimes. Just found my first platinum core, took forever spamming the pulse wave scanner flying around.

ciderdrinker68 you probably already found the answer but if not: edtools.ddns.net/miner

Bigfat Cat the guardian modules are not necessary but makes it safer. And about the aspx, I guess you could do it but it won’t be nearly as efficient said just got for void opals if you just have an aspx

Noah9111 thanks CMDR :) I can afford a python now, maybe that would be a better place to start.

He uses mining lance , it comes only in class 1 but has 2km range

@@josa310 Ah, thanks a bunch. I don't have mining lances ( not much of a power play enthusiast ) Makes perfect sense. Do you know if anyone has any empirical data regarding the 4x class 1 vs. 2x class 2 mining lasers? A very, very long time ago, I did a 2x class 1 vs. 1x class 2 by equipping them on a python in different groups and timing the yield. It was close in time, and I didn't try checking power draw, or make any special note of heat buildup. Truthfully, I wouldn't change to 4x class 1 mining lasers though because I need some defensive weaponry, you know, in case of pirates. I know the mining lances have some defensive capability, but I can't imagine landing any shots on a viper while trying to swing around a cutter or anaconda. its tough enough keeping turrets on them.

@@therealstubot I'm not aware of any empiracal data regarding what you ask. I personaly use 2x class 2 mining lasers , which i find adequate with 7/9 collector limpets, ( i use type 10 and type 9 for mining ) so i can use the remaining hard points for defensive weaponry what i know for sure is that 4x class 1 mining lasers use more power than 2x class 2 mining lasers

@@therealstubot Although I prefer void opal mining I did build a Type-9 for painite and gave it a try. I used 2 mining lancers only and had 6 collector limpets. The mining lancers ripped the asteroid faster than the collectors could collect the minerals. Also I only needed 2 pips in each system. The weapons one never lost more than 3 bars by the time the asteroid was empty. Also no need for defense because pirates only appear if 1. You first drop into a system (so don't start mining till they go away). 2. Restart a new instance or start of a session in the rings 3. someone else joins your instance. as long as you avoid those things you will never need weapons I also avoid pirates when traveling to a system to sell the painite, by charging my fsd as soon as I see a pirate, even while fuel scooping. They can't get to you quick enough, and rather take some internal heat damage than loose the ship during an interdiction.

@@davidentz7440 I'm not very good at the new mining style. I've tried a few times, but never have successfully gotten a subsurface deposit, or cracked an asteroid open. I make plenty of money doing old style mining, so i'm not that concerned about learning it. Even fully loaded in my anaconda or cutter, I can evade interdiction about 95% of the time. My tactic when interdicted in the cutter is run, it's silly fast so I can usually get distance and wake out before losing the shield. In the anaconda, I fight. Its too slow to run, and it's tanky enough to put up with a lot of abuse. Its also armed to the teeth. The majority of the time, pilots that interdict are at least deadly ranked and in a Chieftan, FDL or better. A very common scenario I encounter is I jump into a ring, mine for a while and get next to nothing, like 5t. I stow gear and go to another part of the ring. As you mentioned, of course, when you enter the ring, you get a pirate or two ( although not always, sometimes you'll get another miner ). With a few tons of product in the hold, they attack, and in that case, I always fight them. I would much rather lose my ship and cargo than be extorted like that. Most of the time, the pirates you encounter in ring outside of the resource extraction sites are low level, flying small class ships, so not a big deal. Rarely are they badass opponents. But sometimes you'll get a dangerous ranked pilot in a python and that can be a fight. But even my exploration ship has weapons, a shield, and point defense. I got ganked early in my elite days coming back from a 30kly exploration run by a pair of sidewinders. Lost a month's worth of data within 100ls from the station. I'm not going down without a fight.

You should be getting at least 150/hr if you are doing it right. Current max is >400m/hr. Don't follow his build exactly. Use medium mining lasers and get really close to the rock when mining and collecting.

PC, Xbox & PS4 all share the same universe - tis why you have to have internet connection when you play. So whatever is in the elite universe is the same on all 3. There is just no cross-play, if you play open you'll only meet other Xbox commanders. So the answers is yes if it's there for PC players then it will be there for xbox & ps4 players.

Hotspots can be depleted by other players

Generally, when you drop into a double hotspot, you never want to jump directly into it, since that area will be mined out by NPCs and players. Try dropping in about 300 km from the map marker and see if that gets you better, unmined roids.

Non. Only difference is the number of active limpets you can have.

You know his name isnt dave m8

Yeah thanks Dave! Good ol' Dave..

@@technoviking2415 What are you talkin about man don't talk about Dave like that..

@@manrightchea name aint DAVVE

@@technoviking2415 No man his name's Dave, my friend Astro told me.

no need for defense because pirates only appear if 1. You first drop into a system (so don't start mining till they go away). 2. Restart a new instance or start of a new (log off then log back on hours/days later) session in the rings 3. someone else joins your instance. as long as you avoid those things you will never need weapons I also avoid pirates when traveling to a system to sell the painite, by charging my fsd as soon as I see a pirate, even while fuel scooping. They can't get to you quick enough, and rather take some internal heat damage than loose the ship during an interdiction. Personally I prefer void opal mining and use a clipper for that. Although It does have 2 large multi-canons and 620m/s boost as defense I never really need it. Though sometimes I do kill the pirates just for fun :)

Generally the bigger the ship the bigger the powerplant. But keep in mind all of his ships are almost certainly engineered, so don't expect to get 50MW out of a cutters powerplant right away.

karmapoliceman7 scan the rings with a detailed surface scanner then the hotspots will show up

Just buy some fuel

Jan-VGH I think you still make more money void opal mining anyway, depending on the station you sell at I believe

@@___Nobody__ The Void Opals are just way too inconsistent with their prizes even after so many months so I prefer Alexandrite. I don't mind it if it takes a bit longer

I think doing Void Opals and Low Temperature Diamonds at the same spot is way better. I often find hot spots for both that overlap or just find the Diamonds in an Opal hotspot. I guess the reward over time comparison really depends on how lucky you get finding asteroids with the right core materials.

I prefer Void Opals. I use a clipper because it is very fast and pretty maneuverable. If you mine a void opal hotspot that no-one else has mined (on the fringes of the bubble), then a fast ship like the clipper, can search a huge area very quickly and you find way more void opal asteroids that way. I usually make 150-300mil/hr in my secret location :)

@@davidentz7440 I currently have a Krait II for mining but planning to upgrade to a Clipper. Problem: Rank-Grind! I'm not a fan of it and the pain of unlocking the Corvette is still sitting inside me

Are you in analysis mode ? :) /do you have detailed surface scanne (dss) ?

It does hat o m randomly as well and I haven't figured out rhyme or reason. Once I go into the hotspot and drop into normal space, then I suddenly get a target for it which stays around.

No. Think of it as a type-1 laser with 4X the range that takes the power of a type-2 laser... that generates a lot of heat.

Yes

You only see hotspots when you have the detailed surface scanner equipped.

You need to fire your detailed surface on the ring so it will show you where the hotspots are

@@xrevolution9179 thank you guys!

Tartgeting the fragments is even something you should avoid when firing limpets! If you have a collection target the limpet will only collect that and then disable itself. That means you lose limpets with every collection

Opal run tutorial video? Newb here

@@brettreiman3069 there are plenty of opal mining tutorials out here.

my god, 800 mil per run, that must be long boring night .... :D (i am satisfied with my 200 mill per run)

@@GrowerMan takes a few hours.. I mine outside the bubble in a personal pristine ring, with the type9. I do it now and then, so I can fund my crazy schemes hahaha..

Wesley Larsen you sound like an intergalactic super villain in the making lol

No

i know. :-)

With a full hold what are you earning i have one more cargo rack but might drop it for one more colletor

@@DowntoEarthAstronomy Its bound to happen. When you reveal something that others might have chosen to keep quiet there will always be ripples. Im just glad for once I was ahead of the game and have about 10 billion in storage on my accounts. Be wary Trolls are on the march. That said Fdev has been aware of these levels of income for quite some time now. I think "guess" that they are ok with the level of income and are adjusting the game to prep Pilots for the staggering overhead of a fleet carrier style ship. SO for now the Credits Doth Flow...

@@JG27Korny at least its not a bug

@@lostphotographs3936 that seems like exactly what they did. After some fiddling on the pts, FCs start out at 5bil base, with an upkeep and extra features costing quite a bit more

Something I been wondering also.

Imperial Cutter

@Joshua Beebe i found out later that i dropped in the wrong spot. It was a single.