Oh how I dig these 16 inch dark hats !!!! Sure hope other drummers check Pug cymbals. I bought a 20 inch ride from Maxwell Drums in Chicago had for sale several months ago and it has become my go to ride. I'm 67 years old a 2nd generation jazz drummer was lucky to have good cymbals to start on and to play thru the years. Pug cymbals are truly gems, diamonds!
