161. P. Chesnokov: Do not reject me in the time of old age, Op.40,Nr5. V. Miller, basso profundo. 

Don't reject me when I become old Don't reject me when I become old, when my fortress starts falling, don't leave me. Don't reject me, don't leave me. When enemies and my guardian angel together solve, they will tell: God left it, marry him and give a name, after all it has no disposal. My god, don't abandon me, hear my prayers about the help. Who slandered my soul, he will have shame and he will be gone, they will have sense of shame when they try to do me the harm. I always hope, I hope for you and I hope for your praise. Don't reject me, don't leave me. ( added by lumalfo)

But it helps!!!

Vielen Dank für Ihre Wertschätzung und freundlichen Worte! Alles Gute. Vladimir Miller.

@@alexanderabdalla5517 At the age of 19, I sang at the bottom not lower than B-flat. With age, the voice becomes much deeper. I wish you every success!

Because only a number are gifted of one. And many are also not in music world. It's something that we can only hope that God will give us..

My voice is not nearly as deep as Vladimir Miller's; however, out of 16 men in a community chorus I was the only man able to sing C#2 (2 ledger lines below the bass staff). So deep voices are uncommon in the West.

@@johnhudelson2652 I'm a Bass-Baritone and in a Choir I'm in the Bass section is just low Baritones and they all think I'm a true Bass which goes to show that choir Bass is more of a part and not a voice

@@antemahoney4376 A typical bass part in a choir setting does not go below F2 (touching the bottom of the bass staff) since deep basses are so uncommon.

Contemporary music is so groove driven and -dependent, you have to keep melodic elements out of the bottom octaves. Even someone the size of Miller, gets completely drowned out by big drums and synth basses. Similarly, to sing along with a supertight groove set by a wall of electronic drums, the singers' attacks have to be quick and punchy. While even the biggest human voices need more buildup to properly resonate such low notes. And: You need a quiet, ideally an acoustically sound, room to get the most out of such low notes being sung. The background noise and rumble of traffic, compressors, boomboxes and other modern inventions, easily drown them out. People's hearing reflexively tend to focus on the higher pitches in a mix. Higher pitched sounds tend to overshadow lower pitched ones. Ergo: A noisy world is a tenor's world. And then: contemporary melodic music is mostly singing (or less politely whining...) about being a rather androgynous emo teenager in love..... Miller doesn't really sound very convincing in that role....

Спасибо

Thank you for these kind words. With best wishes, Vladimir Miller.

You can compare and be wondered by this note by Vladimir Pasyukov ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5drXD_6UVus.html

Hey thank you so much for the lyrics 🙏🏻. Do you think you could perhaps get the lyrics for Verily he is worthy. And let me know if you can please. Thank you

❤ “Never!” ❤

Thank you!! I was hoping someone would let me know in English what the words of this “profound” song are 😊

Thank you heartily!

+bennaars ongidi A cold day? That's intersting; my low notes start to go away when the tempertaure goes down.

On cold damp days when the arthritis kicks in, or after you have buried another dear friend.

И ты тут Андрюх) Намути где-то хор и тоже спой).

Сможешь эту песни спеть?

@@lotar-zm8zh, смогу, но буду ли...

@@AndreSerba католик?

@@lotar-zm8zh, в каком то смысле

Он немец

@@lotar-zm8zh Он русский, с немецкой фамилией. В роду у него есть как немцы, так и русские.

I have to explain what the original version of the concert Do not Reject Me is. Chesnokov initially made 2 versions of the ending of this song. The first one is with a low note of G, and the second is without a note of G, with a note of B flat. Both options are copyrighted, they are absolutely equal. So both are the original versions written by Chesnokov. The soloist has the right to perform any of them.

@@VladimirMiller1964 thank you for the explanation, Vladimir! :)

Thank you

This is the State Capella choir of St. Petersburg, a different choir. Kruglov never sang here, and Ort never sang in the Chamber choir (nor did Miller himself, if I'm not mistaken). That is Ort in the choir here, yes.

It's clear that Miller doesn't sing G1 because it isn't in his vocal register. He struggles the B an C.. Also in the end of the piece he misses the D singing almost a C# for a moment... indeed this isn't one of the Miller's best performances

alessandro quattrini hes been known to sing down to G1 and F1, so i don't know why he didn't do this ending.

He reach those notes in few lucky days...

+alessandro quattrini You are very right. I dont think this is the original key either(I think this version is modulated to d minor).

Why would you choose an ending that your front singer can't reach or where it would sound like crap? Makes no sense. Depth is all nice n well, but having a resounding note is way more important rather than forcing it out.

G#1 I think.

It was Bb1

nope and nope, it was B1

G1 check the score

@@nicolasbagnoli3564 when ??? xDD

He doesn't have the resonance that low despite having the range

@@antemahoney4376 There are other videos where he does sing that note, or even lower. The G1 is written in the original score of this song, though some singers opt not to sing it.

@@OlDoinyo i am aware that he does sing it but he doesnt have as much resonance compared to others around that low G

Почему же? Вовсе нет. Октавистом не стать за неделю, месяц или год. Но голос десятилетиями развивается, и диапазон его расширяется как вверх, так и вниз. Главное с этим делом не спешить. Всё происходит само по себе и в свое время. У меня в 19 лет тоже диапазон заканчивался на си-бемоле контроктавы. А к 50 годам появились ноты на кварту ниже. Так что желаю успехов! Главное - желание и терпение.

@@VladimirMiller1964 Спасибо большое!))

yes, it is. btw I'm 12 and I can sing a C# 2 :>

@@danielphendarko2651 pls shut up ...no one cares

Depends on what you mean by doing a Bb1. In any case it's a but special but if you can hit it with any resonance (not just fry or tuned growling) then that's extraordinary. I am 17 and i can only hit Bb1 in chest voice in the morning after yelling a lot the night before lol

No, it is not normal. Bb1 is an extremely low note for even a 20 year old, so if you can really sing that low at that age, that is extremely impressive and you are gifted.

🗿 genetics

дядь. там не было солиста, и Владимир больше хоровой октавист. Солисты это где соло выписано. А Володя тут смиренно хоровую партию поет не вылезая из баланса. Многая лета Владимиру Миллеру

@@BegemotshAlun петь и озвучивать партию - это не одно и то же.