We've taken this truck daily driving, off-roading, towing, and even to two tractor pulls! Does the R1T impress you as a first product from a new car company? What challenges should we put our long-term term Rivian up against next? Let us know in the comments!
Hey, I'm at one year off ownership as well and I'd love to hear about your tire wear. Mine are past the wear indicators and in dire need of replacements. I'm at almost 20,000 miles and this is my number one complaint. The tires have been great but wearing out after only 20k miles means new tires every year? Sadly no treadwear warranty for OEM tires. My door handles squeak when unlocked as well. Hey what about the tonneau cover? Is yours still working most of us are waiting on the refresh so we can open and close the bed access.
If you rent an apartment and rely on chargers its pain in the ass, alway see people at 5 or 6 in morning charging and still a line. EVs atm are for home owners who can get a 240V 48a charger to handle it.
Camrys arent what they used to be. My best friend got a mechanic shop he sees Toyota in more and more frequently, and with major problems too such as oil leak and head gasket
The door is hard to close because of the extra seals that allow it to fjord 3 feet of water. It’s the sort of thing that will probably stop them from ever offering that feature again due to the complaints about the door force, but I think it’s awesome.
6 months in and over 17k miles on R1S. Aside from daily charging, I drive and treat this like the vehicle it is. Great truck, great size, and no problems putting the miles on. Range could be better…my only serious gripe, but one I was well aware of before purchase. I expect some issues down the road, so far this has been minimal.
It's hard to take Rivian seriously when we have no idea if they will go bankrupt in the next year or two. Consumers are paying through the nose for this status symbol and being asked to also take on the risk that Rivian goes bust. As for the truck, it's a small, mid size truck with limited truck utility. If you are someone who wants an EV truck, there are far better options. Who cares about a truck pull, really a dumb idea from Edmunds to even do it, as if that makes a difference when buying a truck. Take your Rivian to Home Depot and try to do actual work with it, like loading sheets of plywood and then put it next to the GM EV truck offering. No competition. Load a bunch of 29er mountain bikes in the bed, and see what kind of room you have, I know the answer, none. We head to the trails and see people trying to shoe horn their mountain bikes in the bed and it is like a clown car. Even the new Tacoma long bed is far superior in terms of utility, let alone a real full size truck for mountain bike adventures. When the Rivian failed and would not start, how long did it take before it was towed? How long before you got a loaner? How long before the repair was done and how much was the repair cost? Even if the warranty covered it, it would be interesting to know the real world cost of the repair, give us real data where you have it.
Rivian doesnt market itself as a utility work truck. And the goose neck tail gate allows 8ft plywood/drywall sit flat with no overhang. And wtf are you talking about GM EV truck when the silverado isnt even out yet. The only other offering that is actuallu out is the hummer EV, which has even less ‘utility’.
@@pting66 you are correct, Rivian doesn't and can't market itself as selling a truck with utility. It's a status symbol, a look at me, I am driving a $90k+ vehicle that you can't have, Rivian sells envy and ego. For those of us who actually use our vehicles to haul, to carry, to tow, to really experience the outdoors, look elsewhere, and plus don't forget with Rivian you get to roll the dice and see if they stay afloat or go bankrupt. What fun!
Jerryrigseverything uses it as a work truck and is for the most part happy with it. And part of the expensiveness of it is because it is a start up. Overhead is expensive right now as they are making things from scratch. Tesla was also extremely expensive when it came out. While it is true it is a risk to buy, I wouldn’t equate the expensiveness of the car because of it being a status symbol, but just being a startup with a huge amount of overhead. They targeted the people willing to pay more likely because they are the ones willing to take the risk as well as helped them not have to lose so much on each vehicle. Remember that despite how expensive these cars are, Rivian loses money with each sale.
One recall. JUST ONE RECALL after almost almost two years of production. Pretty good for the very first vehicle of a totally new car company. The annoyances mentioned are valid. I have the exact same launch edition (even the same color) and I've got the squeaky door handle but not the other squeaks/ rattles. I'm amazed you didn't mention the toneau cover. Frankly, that's my biggest gripe as mine has been broken for over a year now. Rivian is working on a replacement design but they promised to deliver it last summer and summer is gone. My biggest 'minor' gripe is the lack of Apple Carplay or Android Auto support. I want WAZE and the navigation for the Rivian is still lacking in several ways. The same can be said for many other OEM nav systems (except Tesla) but those others usually have Carplay/Auto support.
I have the squeaky window roll. It sometimes disappears and then comes back, possibly to do with moisture and outside temperature… but overall, I am super happy with my R1S with 10 months into ownership
ICE cars have had similar issues ever since they have had computers/ECM/BCM/ECU... when they go bad you can be stuck just the same way and can be expensive out of warranty.
Also I don’t think that is nit picky. I think for the price they should not have a single squeak and remove better not mess up either. I think cars that are over 50 60 k have to be flawless. 🤷♂️
Um, the average price of a new car now is something around $43k! I think you need to put a "1" in front of those numbers if you want real quality control.
@@aussie2uGA right? I mean an average full size pickup in 2022 was over 61k. Domestic oems lead in all kinds of recalls per vehicle and in dollars spent for warranty claims and sadly in open recalls for the risk of FIRE even when parked. 👍🏻😀
You are incredibly naive. For a 1st generation vehicle from a new manufacturer, that is excellent. Mercedes and/or Rolls Royce will not meet your lofty standards. And everyone around you thinks you're flawless eh? 🙈
This is more of a start up problem. Because it is a start up everything will be super expensive S they don’t have the economy of scale like major and established manufacturers. They don’t have the knowledge of this manufacturers, and production is still new. If they survive, these things will get cheaper for the, and the user and production will start going smoother as they learn.
99 percent of these complaints were the early trucks my vin number 24xxx is flawless no noise perfect gaps and rides like butter. LOve my R1T best built vehicle I have ever owned out of 36.
I also thought they should fix this stuff in newer models, now a year later I heard the tonneau cover is much better, its not braking like before, and overall the quality is better, did you have any issues in the past 10 months ? I want this truck, just never had electric ⚡️ car
I LOVE my truck. I would not buy a lightning, a cybertruck, a hummer, a silverado ev, nothing. It's fucking amazing. It can off-road, it's fast 0-60 in 3.5s, it can haul a decent amount for me (not a full size bed), and its cheaper to run than a prius. I have solar, so I can drive this 7000lb truck around for nothing. I've had mine for a year now, I have 22.6k miles, just that one recall - though I wasnt affected by it, and I've had little issues like described, but Rivian will fix them. I would re-purchase another one for the higher ~95k, it's just that good. Only reason not to get one is if you really don't care for the looks. Otherwise it does it all, amazingly well. For a first shot from a new automaker, they KILLED it.
Good stuff there! They'll need cheerleaders like you to survive the next couple year's after burning through 13billion+already. 👍🏻 My bet is they don't survive making it to the r2 builds allegedly in 2026 now, from the so far none existant GA plant. As is if they had to fund that plant fully and service their existing debt load? They would be flat broke despite raising over 22billion dollars. 😑
@@royn8032 perhaps, i wouldn't count on it though with amazon having given up exclusive rights to the edvs and backed off on how many they are buying. 👍🏻
So my rivian, the hv battery died. Rivian had to call 3 different tow trucks over the course of 2 weeks because they couldn’t pull it out of my garage. They finally sent a service truck and I had to use my own tow straps to pull it out of the garage. Swapped the hv battery, one day after getting the truck back the rear motor died while I was driving and then the hv battery died again. Maybe Edmunds is getting preferential treatment or maybe I had terrible service. I no longer have the truck.
Sounds like an extended warranty for an EV is something that all owners should consider. What do you do with these vehicles after Edmunds finishes the long-term testing?
After 8 years my diesel Ford Ranger had one broken door latch. Range is the same as it was new. Replaced the tires and battery at 6 years and service it every 9 months. Can't understand why people buy EV's that are worthless toxic junk in 10 years
Thank you, Edmunds! This is by far the most complete review of the Rivian R1T. My biggest dislike is the glass roof; it lets in heat and rain leaks through and gets stuck inside the door panels according to another review.
It would be great to make the same video after the warranty expires. Parts are not mainstream. Also impacts to the body can be expensive. And … That’s not a ferrari. You did not mention the glare issue on the front camera which prevent the cruise controls to engage. Or the lack of backup camera when the back door is lowered. I wanted to buy one but i decided not to break my wallet because of all the “unknown" overhead cost.
That stuff is not nit picky, at a price of $80K+. On the other hand, first year? It's a brilliant truck, full stop. Now, let's get rivian to make one with just 400 hp, awd, smaller, much lighter, and half the price.
No amount of "coolness" or "golly gee wizz" power would make up for the bricked vehicle - or the inconvenience of charging. This is a "hard no" for me.
Trucks front end is a total joke. Looks like Betty Boop eyes for headlights. I laugh at people on the road at how horrible this over-priced battery on wheels looks.
Would you do a Rivian R1S long term? For the short period I test drive I drove my friends 1 day old one seems pretty good than the R1T fit and finish issues you have. I liked the drive better than a Tesla Model S (yes, I know totally different vehicles but just what I got to drive in EV world)
I have the highway king it is hi-fi magenta. I have number 129 of 750. I really like the white pearl ultra Limited for 2024. The highway king is great, the only thing I did to it was chrome the upper and lower front forks. It looks amazing and everyone loves it. I really dig the old school look but I’m trying to get used to that high seat, I was going to buy an ultra limited, but I was a little concerned about the weight in terms of being top-heavy and I wasn’t sure if I would really do the kind of riding that it was built for….. my previous bike was a 2002 Road king classic in Black which I really loved. I like the old school with the white wall tires and the spoked wheels which is what attracted me to the highway king. Too many bikes today are simply black or gray years ago. There was a lot more color on motorcycles. I’d like to see Harley come out with more color options and bring back more chrome. The last thing I’ll say because this is running long is that the 114 engine is really impressive as compared to my twin cam from years ago. I see no reason to put a stage two or four into it but that’s just me thanks for the video. Have a great day.
These are some serious quality issues with a vehicle this expensive (especially with the front inverter disabling the truck) I better stay with Toyota.
Cars nowadays rely too much on computer chips and computer assistance. And I'm sure if this was out of warranty it would have costs the owner thousands of dollars to repair. Edmunds you should should disclose what the costs would had been. Or make a video of "what if and costs involved" video.
Exactly. I had a Tesla model 3 and loved it but, got tired of charging and seeing other cheaper car like a Toyota Corolla that can out range me. Got tired of winter coming and battery not charging. More pain than actually being cool. Glad I got rid of my car at a decent price. Will never look at another electric vehicle until technology really catches up. We are just not there yet.
I drive 20k miles a year so the first two line not quite cut it. If another other than the battery break before 100k miles, that will be really expensive. Ford does offer factory extended warranty for purchase.
I’ve had mine ab 3,000 miles, a few things have popped up but Rivian has taken care of them. I do wish they had a closer service center. Overall, very pleased.
Squeaks and rattles are real with any EV because there's no engine noise to drown out the squeaks and rattles... plastic is probably the primary culprit but will be interesting to see if this is a problem across all car brands. My model 3 has a bunch of them that drive me insane.
I have a beautiful Silverado trail boss 2023. I haul my boat every weekend to one of two lakes 50 miles away one way. Then I had some trees removed in my yard and went and got a bucket of 1500 lb of dirt for fill in. Have you done any truck things in this “not truck?” I understand when you put dirt or rock or mulch in the bed it drops into the tailgate hinge arm opening. This is not a truck. It’s a ridiculously expensive fast thing that looks like a truck … but is not. I’ll buy two trail bosses for the price of this “thing”
Nit picky?! No way. That’s unacceptable. I’d be pretty pissed if I spent 75K let alone 95K and have that many rattles and door issues. I have an RDX that just crossed 167K miles and just noticed my first rattle. No way I’d be okay with something this new and low mileage. This is why I’d buy from a legacy auto marker. The quality isn’t there yet.
Squeaking door handles are a design feature to let you know you grabbed them. Albert looks like a stone-cold auto tester (SCAT). It would be great to give get him on camera to balance the valley boys, even if it is only to stare down the presenters when they say something stupid. :)
If you've been to the mall now that holiday shopping has started, you should watch the EV cars as they play musical chairs with others around the charging station. Then when they go into the mall after about an hour, just slightly pull back their plug until disconnected, its so much fun. Maybe its a new social game!?!?! We'll call it how to easily piss off rich people and really enjoy watching them when they figure it out. Pair with beer and pretzels.
Tesla chargers should not be available to non tesla vehicles. The Tesla charger stations are already 🚉 crowded. If the government want people to use Ev building a better charging network
Are you stupid? "We should stop people from using the already established charging network so that we can start from scratch with a new charging network that won't be established for another 10+ years instead of just building more superchargers"
Was hit on the #1 issue with EV's. The charging. No mention of how much added time to the trip to SF took due to charging (probably 4 stops). Until that is addressed and Yes that is a Rivian/Tesla/GM/Ford/ETC problem EV's are nothing more than around town put puts
@@ALMX5DP I recently rented a Genesis G80 for a 380 mile trip, and one thing that no one seems to mention is that you don't ever use the maximum range. This is because of two reasons: 1. You are not supposed to go below 20% of the charge. 2. When at a recharging station, after refilling to 80%, the output drastically lowers to a snail's pace (most chargers state this fact and recommend only charging to 80%). So, it may take 20 minutes to charge from 20% to 80%, but then take at least as long,if not longer, for that final 20%. So, with the G80, instead of 280ish miles of range, you actually only get 170ish miles; a 40% reduction in range. For the Rivian, this would go from 320ish to 190ish; a reduction of 130ish miles. This is something I hadn't anticipated. That and the annoyance of charging without any overhead protection like you get at gas pumps. On multiple days, I connected the charger in the rain; not fun. However, even with these annoyances, the future is definitely EV.
@@jackferris5066 I go below 20% on every charge while on road trips. Not a problem at all. Yes the top part of the battery does slow down, you just have to think of things differently than a gas car. On a road trip I charge up to reach my destination (usually another charger on a long trip) with a small amount of margin. When I first got my car I wanted 15-20% left. Now i trust it enough that I'll go for 5-10%. It really only adds 10-15% on a trip time compared to a gas car if you splash and dash. And I actually prefer to stop every 2-3 hours to stretch anyway, so I prefer EV. So much so that we no longer have a gas car.
@@jackferris5066 sure I was just commenting that if you’re taking a trip of that length (~400 miles) you’d probably fill to 100% right before setting off and only need one charging session along the way (not 4 like the OP commented). Even only having 80% at the beginning and running down to 20% you’d only probably need 2 stops along the way.
People buying ev for the environment really need to do some research on the environmental effects of lithium mineand disposal. The fuel consumption per day of these mine is mind blowing .
@beshoy9954 yes around 5% can be .but it is dangerous to recycle lithium. I've been in the recycle industry for 30 years. I believe you've been lied to
Approximately 21billion gallons fuel is used just to mine the lithium. That doesn't include the the other materials used in the battery. The battery factory are all fueled by coal .the coal is shipped to China. Those ships burn millions of gallons of fuel for every trip .hope your starting to see the scam of ev
@@joeybranham1233have you done a full side by side comparison of carbon footprint of a similar gas powered truck plus that footprint over some years of ownership?
@ben3989 good question. that would be very difficult. It would depend on where you live. Some states create electricity from coal, oil, or natural gas. Others from solar which then you have to factor in the arcinic saturation of the land rendering it unless after the solar panels are removed. Other places use wind but that has quickly proven to not be very effective. Wind fans generate a lot of radiation killing wildlife. Upkeep cost more than the fans produce. So doing a side by side would be hard because the evs have so many extra possibilities for producing carbon foot print than a gas truck. It would be interesting to see though how bad it could possibly be to own a "ev"
Rivian, Lucid, Polestar are not large enough or enough of a threat yet to evoke the auto industry and dealer lobby into full scale assault mode on them, like they did with Tesla. Glad you pointed out some quirks and by the way, DID you mic out those Rivian panel gaps or send a marble rolling down them?
Oh yeah, let's keep forcing EV down the American people throats. Towing is crap.! And I just love how if I want to go on vacation, i have to plan on where the charging stations are. And then add on the charging time, if I can get an advanced charging system, if I can't, I'm there for an additional 3 hrs.! We have a gas tax, for road maintenance, how much will this cost once the EV takes over, like they are hoping. EV ISN'T GOING TO BE FREE FOREVER.! But nobody has thought of this yet.! And where does the electricity come from for your EV, tree huggers, fossil fueled plants.! You think you're saving the planet, but you ain't.! Pure and simple.
Garbage method of making this truck. These are not like regular trucks, the whole side is one piece and in case of a fender bender, you can't access the inside of your panels by simply removing them. This is why their way of contructing is anti consumer. Cheap to manufacturer, EXTREMELY expensive owenership.
WTF are you talking about? It's more expensive and looks way better than the cheap and ugly separate cab and bed normal trucks have. IDGAF about that because insurance will pay for it if I ever get in a wreck. My insurance cost isn't very high regardless. My Rivian costs me $40 in electricity a month to drive about 900 miles. It's not "EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE".
I wouldn't call any of the issues minor...$100k for squeaks and rattles, impossible to repair minor accidents. You guys are ruining the world pedaling this garbage. When they can sell shit for $100k and be praised what do you think the manufacturers will sell us for $50k?
Rivian Total production for Q3 2023: 16,304 (up 121%) Just because you hate how they are expensive, doesn't stop Rivian from selling every single one they make.
