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172 - One Year Since Pearl Harbor - WW2 - December 11, 1942 

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The Japanese try and fail to supply their starving soldiers. The Allies fail to break through in Tunisia and New Guinea. The fighting in the USSR is bloody, but the Axis prepare for a new offensive there.
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@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 года назад
We have now written 172 different WW2 Week by Week titles at TimeGhost. For the first few years, it felt like each title was about the constant Axis onslaught. But recently we have been able to write titles where the Allies are actually doing well. Is the tide turning? Did it turn a long time ago, but we're just noticing now? Do the people of 1942 feel that the tide is turning? Discuss. Oh, and before you discuss, join the TimeGhost Army: bit.ly/WW2_172_PI Read our rules of conduct before commenting community.timeghost.tv/t/forum-rules-and-guidelines/5
@Zen-sx5io
@Zen-sx5io 2 года назад
Wish I was following you earlier when things looked hopeless.
@davidwright7193
@davidwright7193 2 года назад
The tide started to ebb for the axis sometime ago. Many of their boats are now grounded and they aren’t going to refloat anytime soon.
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 2 года назад
It's definitely special seeing it play out and recounting history
@Zen-sx5io
@Zen-sx5io 2 года назад
@@dusk6159 Oh yes.
@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 2 года назад
So the Sailor Senshi are named after Soviet Offensives? Can´t wait to see what Mercury does.
@Explosivefox109
@Explosivefox109 2 года назад
Only a year? Where has 1942 gone? Hell, I don’t even know where 2021 has gone. Thanks for the series, it’s been an epic story so far.
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 2 года назад
Most definitely!
@ricardogarcia1172
@ricardogarcia1172 2 года назад
i was having the exact same feeling, like if i watched their documentary of pearl harbor like 1 month ago. What the fuck is happening with time?
@Alexq79-
@Alexq79- 2 года назад
It kinda makes you wonder how fast the war would’ve finished if you were alive during it. Or maybe it would be a hell of a lot longer, idk lol
@midsue
@midsue 2 года назад
Agree time flies fast 🕰️
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 2 года назад
@@Alexq79- In that it would've definitely felt the exact opposites. Years would've been eternities.
@thijsminnee7549
@thijsminnee7549 2 года назад
When your PT-boats outperform your cruisers just after your enemies destroyers had outperformed their battleships. Guadalcanal is really REALLY od!
@elektrotehnik94
@elektrotehnik94 2 года назад
Sea-based guerrilla fighting in effect... small & "stealthy"/ hard to hit wins out
@fuzzyhair321
@fuzzyhair321 2 года назад
@@elektrotehnik94 yeah funny how these battles really changed USA navy doctrines
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 2 года назад
Guadacanal is littoral waters were small vessels can shine.
@gunman47
@gunman47 2 года назад
Another side note this week on December 7 1942 is that the United States Navy Iowa-class battleship, the *USS New Jersey (BB-62)* , is launched today at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard in Pennsylvania, one year after the attack on Pearl Harbor. The second ship of her class and notable for being the only battleship to provide gunfire support during the Vietnam War, she would also eventually participate in the Korean War and even part of the Lebanese Civil War after a modernised refitting. As the most decorated battleship in the history of the US Navy, she is now a museum ship in Camden, New Jersey.
@bkjeong4302
@bkjeong4302 2 года назад
And like other battleships to enter service in WWII, she was superfluous and pointless in the carrier era. Shore bombardment could have been (and often was) carried out well enough without getting any of the Iowas involved both in WWII (where old battleships, cruisers, and destroyers could do it) and in the Vietnam War (modified landing craft equipped with massive amounts of firepower that could get much closer to enemy positions, and the cruisers and destroyers again), the AA carrier escort role was already covered by cruisers and destroyers, and the big gun is redundant on something that’s going to be attached to a fast carrier task force and thus never going to be anywhere near enemy ships (EDIT: This also means battleships were not needed to defend fast carrier task forces from enemy battleships or cruisers because the fast carrier task force would simply outrun and/or outrange enemy surface units, which they can afford to do because aircraft vastly outrange ship-launched torpedoes or big guns and are much more accurate. Good luck even finding, let alone getting close enough to, a fast carrier force that has a several-hundred-mile lead on you). Before you say “but those decorations!”, most decorations given to ships are there as a mere “participation award” simply for being present at a battle (even if the ship did literally nothing). All of New Jersey’s decorations were given for actions in which she was merely present or only did relatively minor duties that could easily have been covered by other, more strategically useful assets.
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 2 года назад
@@bkjeong4302 except fast carriers needed fast battleships for escorts to protect them against battleships and cruisers. That is why they were there with the carriers. It is not as if Battleships suddenly become superfluous overnight.
@josephahner3031
@josephahner3031 2 года назад
​@@bkjeong4302 Heavy surface units did perform useful roles in WW2. For example covering forces not equipped to handle enemy heavy surface units when there are no carriers around. Admirals not using them properly doesn't mean they were useless or superfluous. A Battleship group containing New Jersey and a few other BBs hanging out north of the landing zones in the Battle off Samar for example could have made the costly stand of Taffy 3 unnecessary and wrecked Admiral Kurita's Force A quite handily.
@bkjeong4302
@bkjeong4302 2 года назад
@@PalleRasmussen Fast carriers DON'T need protection against enemy battleships and cruisers, unless they’re being outright incompetent (which is the only reason Glorious was sunk by gunfire). Any carrier fast enough to need such a fast escort is fast enough to simply outrun and outrange enemy surface vessels. The whole point of a fast carrier strike force is that it simply stays out of the range of enemy surface units, which allows it to attack with impunity if weather conditions permit. Even at night, all the fast carrier force has to do is just maintain the lead it had during the day; the enemy surface ships wouldn’t even find the carrier force from hundreds of miles away (due to the ranges of WWII-era surface-search radar), let alone reasonably get close enough to pounce. The navies of the world THOUGHT battleships were necessary to protect carriers from enemy battleships and cruisers. That doesn’t actually mean that was true. I SPECIFICALLY POINTED THIS OUT in my previous comment when I said the Iowas were never going to be anywhere near enemy surface ships
@michaelkovacic2608
@michaelkovacic2608 2 года назад
@@bkjeong4302 I agree that the ressources poured into battleship construction in WW2 could have been put to far better use. However, from a technical point of view, they are amazing machines.
@theoneduckson2312
@theoneduckson2312 2 года назад
Poor José stuck in Stalingrad. He is right though Herman Göring isn't the smartest man with his various addictions. This week's phone call was great. I love them and they're a welcome addition highlighting the important development for this week.
@WarblesOnALot
@WarblesOnALot 2 года назад
G'day, NEWSFLASH...! Adiction and Intelligence are NOT causually related. Goring's mother abandoned him when he was 3 months old, leaving him with Household Servants while she went back to German SouthWest AfriKa where her husband was the Imperial Colon-ial Commissioner (Traumatic Maternal Deprivation Syndrome). The next time Herman saw his mother he was 3 Years old, and after running the length of a Castle Dining Hall to reach her..., Herman jumped up to grab her Waist-belt with both hands and commenced kicking her legs with his little hobnailed Boots, drawing blood from her shins, screaming..., "You left me...! You LEFT Me...! YOU LEFT ME ; You BITCH...!" After he was shot in the leg during the Beer-Cellar Putsch he was given Morphine - and BINGO ! For the first time in his life he encountered something which filled the hole in his personality left there by having been abandoned with Strangers as a baby. And for the rest of his life he was forever trying not to take too much Pain Relief. By training I'm a Registered General Nurse, and by personal autodidacticism I'm an Aeroplanologist....; and I've passed Exams in both Pharmacology, Psychology, & Psychiatry. If you were sufficiently fortunate as to have grown up in a happy stable prosperous loving stimulating Family environment..., then Bully for you ; but do not delude yourself into thunkin' your experience and reactions to be in any way universal. And if you are not a Junkie, then what that means is merely that you were not sufficiently damaged as an infant, child, and adolescent for you to be unable to resist whatever Pain Relief you can access. Here's a triptych of Datapoints... The "Survivors" of Childhood Sexual Abuse display 18 times the Suicide Death Rate of the background population, as well as 48 times the Deathrate from Accidental Overdose, and those Deaths cluster around 18 years following the Abusive Event/s. (Melbourne University School Of Medicine, Australian Medical Association Journal, February 2010...; reported on ABC Radio National). Goring was an intelligent person, but he was a deeply damaged and thus dysfunctional unit. His selfishness was a consequence of how he was raised and trained ; and when he grew up he CHOSE to attempt to become as selfish as he could possibly be. Wherever you behold a Selfish vicious Arsehole...; there you see someone who survived a truly shitty start to their Life. Count yourself lucky, and "Judge NOT thy fellow (Hu)man, Least thine own Heart (Soul) Be weighed in the Balance, against the Feather of Truth...., And found to be Wanting..." (Egyptian Book Of The Dead). Just(ifiably ?) sayin', Such is life. Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
@2Links
@2Links 2 года назад
Sad day for him and all other animal rights activists worldwide.
@WarblesOnALot
@WarblesOnALot 2 года назад
@@2Links G'day, Goring was NEVER an Animal Rights Activist. He was a Medieval Baron with a Forest HUNTING Preserve. It was illegal for other CitiZens to hunt in his Forests, because he wanted his Game to be tame and easy to approach and Shoot from up close. "Forest Conservationist"...? Technically, yes ; but ONLY because he wanted the Animals and Birds to be easier for a lazy fat old Junkie to be able to kill for the fun of it. He collected paintings & sculpture, too, but he was not a Patron of the Arts either. Just(ifiably ?) sayin'. Such is life, Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
@faunbudweis
@faunbudweis 2 года назад
what varius addictions are you talking about? He was a morphine addict afaik, but I havent heard about any other addictions
@WarblesOnALot
@WarblesOnALot 2 года назад
@@frenzalrhomb6919 Thanks mate ! Stay safe ! ;-p Ciao !
@excelon13
@excelon13 2 года назад
My wife and I rewatched the Pearl Harbor special on the 7th, still amazing how you were able to cover it like that.
@jtgd
@jtgd 2 года назад
Listened to it throughout that day when it premiered. Cleaned up my whole apartment while doing it. I LOVED IT Cant wait to see what they’re going to do for D-Day
@pagodebregaeforro2803
@pagodebregaeforro2803 2 года назад
Dude you saw 10 hours straight!? 😳 and your wife was patient like that? Lol good. I like the content a lot but I think I will have to watch in many parts. (I havent seen yet)
@gianniverschueren870
@gianniverschueren870 2 года назад
Bright colours seem to be a recent theme and I AM ALL FOR IT! This one kind of reminds me of those old floor mats of city outlines, with streets you could play with toy cars on. Good times. 4/5
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 2 года назад
Damn, absolute classics, great to notice this special conjunction.
@2Links
@2Links 2 года назад
Damn, I remember those floor mats! And yeah, you're absolutely right, it does somewhat resemble it.
@bankerduck4925
@bankerduck4925 2 года назад
I also like it. It gives clarity to the maps and it looks lovely.
@jonseyzfan
@jonseyzfan 2 года назад
3:22 Wait a second: THREE manned torpedoes sank FOUR ships? Whoever did the double kill deserves a raise!
@massdestruction112
@massdestruction112 2 года назад
One year already? The TimeGhost Army is still running strong. The world will never forget.
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 2 года назад
last week I was watching Tora, Tora, Tora on Czech Television,...
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 2 года назад
The world has forgotten the interwar years, and when historians like Timothy Snyder (and to a lesser extent me) try to remind people, they are called alarmist.
@wills2140
@wills2140 2 года назад
just a side note: the continuation of these Soviet attacks west of Stalingrad ( even when inconclusive ) was also partly to become a matter of strategy - to keep the German panzers "fixed" in defending a specific area or "front". While not always stated clearly by Stavka, this tactic of leaving one Soviet force engaged in fighting to keep Nazi forces in place, while forming new battle forces to exploit any further openings would continue and find success. This is not the first time we see the Russians do this - trading soldiers and time in battle in exchange for making the panzers commit to defending a specific place then forming new units to exploit the battle - just a good example when the 5th Shock Army was formed to work with 5th Tank Army. Thank you Indy and everyone! Happy Holidays! ☺
@limonade7050
@limonade7050 2 года назад
Goddamn, the whole Stalingrad part, all the offensives and planning for offensives, really gave me a sort of grandiose feeling. Even though I already know the outcome, it send shivers through my body. The conclusion of the titanic struggle that has been going on in stalingrad since August is now starting.
@limonade7050
@limonade7050 2 года назад
@Ralph Goober thnx for the suggestion! Luckily it's on RU-vid, so I can watch it whenever I want :)
@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 2 года назад
I´m sure Steiner will counterattack and defeat the Red Army encircling Stalingrad. It´s foolproof!
@Arashmickey
@Arashmickey 2 года назад
"Das war ein Befehl!" "Ja, aber Herr Führer, Stalin ordered the Red Army to 'destroy the enemy everywhere'" "Scheiße, issuing a 'destroy the enemy everywhere' order was the perfect countermove."
@Raskolnikov70
@Raskolnikov70 2 года назад
About as foolproof as Goering's supply plan. What could possibly go wrong?
@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 2 года назад
@@Raskolnikov70 Hitler eventually eating his own gun? Nah, that will never happen.
@legatvsdecimvs3406
@legatvsdecimvs3406 2 года назад
Well here the thinking is the 57th and 48th Panzer Corps commanded by Field Marshal Manstein will do it.
@Perkelenaattori
@Perkelenaattori 2 года назад
Looks like there's something brewing up in El Agheila too. We shall see if Monty continues his rodgering of the Gerries or if he's overextended his supply lines. I think he's got this under wraps. He seems like he takes logistics seriously. Also those Decima MAS duderinos have balls of steel. I sure hope I never have to be a manned torpedo pilot.
@Rahel_Rashid
@Rahel_Rashid 2 года назад
Sometimes your genius.... It's almost frightening...
@Perkelenaattori
@Perkelenaattori 2 года назад
@@Rahel_Rashid It's a gift.
@ocharni
@ocharni 2 года назад
It's Jerries not Gerries
@Perkelenaattori
@Perkelenaattori 2 года назад
@@ocharni It's in fact both.
@alexamerling79
@alexamerling79 2 года назад
"Three questions are obsessing every soldier and officer. When will the Russians stop firing and let us sleep in peace, if only for one night? How and with what are we going to fill our empty stomaches, which apart from 3 1/2 to 7 ounces of bread, receive virtually nothing at all? And when will Hitler take any decisive steps to free our armies from encirclement?"- Wilhelm Hoffman, December 11, 1942.
@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329
@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329 2 года назад
"brother, I know the world is scary right now... ... but it's gonna get way worse"
@alexamerling79
@alexamerling79 2 года назад
@@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329 Das stimmt
@DrJones20
@DrJones20 2 года назад
Why would the Russians ever stop firing? Guy isn't thinking straight.
@alexamerling79
@alexamerling79 2 года назад
@@DrJones20 Right? He clearly forgot they invaded Russia.
@danielmocsny5066
@danielmocsny5066 2 года назад
@@alexamerling79 - And they didn't build a strategic bombing fleet with range sufficient to trouble those Russian factories turning out artillery shells on the far side of the Urals. And fewer of those Russian shells are duds than the German shells made by unwilling slave laborers.
@byrnemeister2008
@byrnemeister2008 2 года назад
Just a quick comment to say this is the best comments section and community on RU-vid. Lots of great stories, anecdotes and additional content. The only comments section I read. Great job done by all of you.
@stanbrekston
@stanbrekston 2 года назад
you are so right. I've gotten better quality information from the comments section, than I've gotten from some history books.
@nikola8752
@nikola8752 2 года назад
Will you mention the resistance in Yugoslavia in regular episodes? During 1942 you did not mention their actions and there was war in several places, the occupying German authorities engaged over 50,000 soldiers in suffocating the partisans, the partisans had 2 planes at their disposal! In November 1942, the Republic of Bihać was created, covering about 48,000 km2. During 1943, the famous battles on the Neretva and Sutjeska rivers will take place. For the operation on the Sutjeska River, the occupiers used about 127,000 soldiers against 20,000 partisans. At the Teheran conference, it was decided that the Allies would helped partisans with war material. During 1943, the second session of AVNOJ was held, at which it was decided to ban the return of the monarchy to Yugoslavia and that it would be a federal, democratic (:-) communist) republic. By the end of 1943, the partisans would number about 100,000 warriors. Can you mention them?
@stanbrekston
@stanbrekston 2 года назад
thank you for this very interesting information. I try to soak up as much WW2 knowledge as possible.
@lukeleppla
@lukeleppla 2 года назад
They shared in a livestream recently that they avoid talking about the Balkans because the comments section devolves into awful comments
@markvorobjov6185
@markvorobjov6185 2 года назад
Partisan activity is covered by "war against humanity" series on WW2 channel.
@nikola8752
@nikola8752 2 года назад
@@markvorobjov6185 thanks
@gunman47
@gunman47 2 года назад
A side note this week on December 7 1942 is that the *Bell P-63 Kingcobra* fighter aircraft will have its first flight in the skies. It would eventually enter service in October 1943, interestingly not for the United States Army Air Forces (USAAF), but rather for the Soviet Air Force, as the Soviet Union were already prolific users of its predecessor, the Bell P-39 Airacobra.
@johnbeauvais3159
@johnbeauvais3159 2 года назад
Ah, the USAAF does eventually end up using the P-63 in Operation Pinball where planes are modified by having extra armor put on leading edges and around the cockpit and being flown at bomber formations for the purpose of training gunners who are able to shoot real guns at the planes with special bullets
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 2 года назад
@@johnbeauvais3159 Which is a great story and move by the US on the home front!
@clayedwards987
@clayedwards987 2 года назад
Fabulous job. Just a point of obsession: MG Sandy Patch truly did command the Americal Division at Guadacanal. However, your graphic showed the Americal as the 25th Inf Division. It was later (after WWII) designated numerically as the 23rd Inf Div, though always known as the Americal, even into Vietnam. The 25th was Tropic Lightning. You guys do so well. Later-GEN Alexander M. Patch would be a great special bio subject for you. One of only 3 US generals who commanded a Division, a Corps, and an Army during the war, and he was in both the Pacific and Europe, and was headed back to the Pacific after the Germans surrendered. Even had a USNS transport ship (taking families to Europe) named after him, in operation from just post-WWII until the mid-60s. Keep up the excellent work.
@Rhubba
@Rhubba 2 года назад
The 25th did deploy to Guadalcanal but not until late January 1943.
@clayedwards987
@clayedwards987 2 года назад
@@Rhubba, I agree. Think if we are talking 11 Dec 42 and MG Patch as Division CG, it should be Americal alone, though. Add the 25th in come January '43 and it becomes a Corps, in this case, the XIV Corps with 2 Army divisions, 1 Marine division, and an Army RCT, with Sandy Patch standing it up and commanding it, as well as the whole Guadacanal Campaign from that point until it was over.
@stanbrekston
@stanbrekston 2 года назад
@@clayedwards987 great WW2 knowledge! from both you gentlemen. thank you.
@clayedwards987
@clayedwards987 2 года назад
@@stanbrekston, kind of. What I did do though, as an 8 year old, was sail to Europe on the USNS Alexander M. Patch, Jr., when my dad was assigned to France in 1961. Got to know of and respect the GEN.
@soad11dude
@soad11dude 2 года назад
It's mind blowing to me how long Hermann Göring was trusted... - Britain can be defeated by air - Stalingrad can be supplied by air .... with such disasters, I'm surprised the axis let him remain head of the luwftwaffe
@jimyoung9262
@jimyoung9262 2 года назад
Or retain his head
@darrenrobinson9041
@darrenrobinson9041 2 года назад
Loyalty was everything. HG was present at the Beer Hall Putsch and got shot in the balls. That's a hell of a thing to have on your nazi resume.
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 2 года назад
Ah the Chir River Battles; the most brilliant divisional battle ever. Balck was a genius, the best operational commander of WW2. Too bad such a brilliant and cultured man was so naive and blind to the reality of the regime he served.
@Spindrift_87
@Spindrift_87 2 года назад
Watching this on 10/12/21. RIP to the brave sailors on HMSs Prince of Wales & Repulse. Lost eighty years ago today. When the sea gives up her dead, I'll be in the line to shake your hands, lads
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 2 года назад
Oh, you should go to Armoured Carriers's channel. He's recently uploaded three vids with interviews of survivors of Repulse and PoW. ru-vid.comvideos
@ethanleas6319
@ethanleas6319 2 года назад
For the Americans out there, 12/10/21
@danielmocsny5066
@danielmocsny5066 2 года назад
December 10, 2021 - unambiguous dates work in everyone's variety of English.
@Sabrowsky
@Sabrowsky 2 года назад
Y'know, Im starting to think PT boats were a little more effective than dive bombers at terrorizing supply convoys
@earlyriser8998
@earlyriser8998 2 года назад
In 1942 the tide turned.....every axis advance was thwarted in some way ...it was the beginning of the end and allies victory
@dragosstanciu9866
@dragosstanciu9866 2 года назад
It became inevitable, because the Axis overextended its supply chain and forces.
@hachwarwickshire1718
@hachwarwickshire1718 2 года назад
They lost in 1940. They failed to destroy Britain and the Commonwealth and Empire rallied ! Massive man power and unlimited resources ! Even with a neutral America they had failed ! The British would just keep on doing the same coalition building and attacking as and when they could just like before. Egypt lost ! 😢 OK ... now you have to fight East to India or South to Cape Town ! On and on ... until the Bomb is dropped on Berlin ...
@Raskolnikov70
@Raskolnikov70 2 года назад
@@hachwarwickshire1718 That was Germany's most fatal mistake, even more than invading the USSR in the first place. Defeating the UK, or at least coming to a settled peace, would have been the solution to Germany's biggest weakness which was its inability to import resources by sea. Not saying they would have succeeded in the end if they still chose to invade the USSR, but at least they wouldn't have been doing it with one hand tied behind their backs and running out of steam in October 1941 because they demotorized their army to save fuel.
@danielmocsny5066
@danielmocsny5066 2 года назад
The Battle of the Atlantic (between German u-boats and Allied convoys between North America and the British Isles) won't be decided until June, 1943. That's just after the month the Germans will call "Black May" after taking unsustainable u-boat losses while hardly sinking any Allied ships. That's a stunning reverse from the previous pattern where the Germans were sinking many dozens of Allied ships per month for the loss of only a handful of u-boats. Black May results from a combination of Allied technological and numerical improvements that rapidly tip the scales against the u-boats. Although u-boats will continue to sink Allied ships until the end of the war, they won't interfere much with the Allies' ability to move incredible amounts of materiel - and men - across the Atlantic, making the invasion of Normandy possible in just a year.
@Raskolnikov70
@Raskolnikov70 2 года назад
@@danielmocsny5066 I wonder if it would be possible to figure out how much of that ability to move supplies across the ocean was solely due to the huge number of transport ships being cranked out by American shipyards versus the additional escort carriers and destroyers. It would be interesting to combine all the charts of Allied shipping losses, German u-boat losses and Allied ship production and see if there was a point where nothing the Germans did was going to affect the outcome of that battle. Seems like even without the advances in sub-hunting technology the Allies were destined to win by sheer brute productive force.
@gametheorybasics
@gametheorybasics 2 года назад
I have been steadfastly followed this channel, and although the common wisdom is that the Axis lost because of a lack of resources (primarily oil in Europe, but also in A/P, and other resources), my conclusion is that they lost because the Allies always broke their secret codes.
@carriertaiyo2694
@carriertaiyo2694 2 года назад
The Germans regularly broke the British codes.
@Squidward558
@Squidward558 2 года назад
The reasons the Axis lost will always be multi-faceted. There was never only one reason but many.
@carriertaiyo2694
@carriertaiyo2694 2 года назад
Also, all the axis nations demonstrated shocking levels of incompetence when managing what resources they had
@darrenrobinson9041
@darrenrobinson9041 2 года назад
Japanese & Nazis both obviously spread themselves way too thin. Instead of taking some victories and collecting the spoils, they just carried on like they wanted the whole world.
@PaulA-bv1rt
@PaulA-bv1rt 2 года назад
Will there be a special episode on the most famous PT boat and crew. No, not Kennedy and 109, but McHale and PT 73.
@marshalleubanks2454
@marshalleubanks2454 2 года назад
There are rumors that a raid on the Tatsinskaya airfield is coming, and I certainly hope that attention is focused on what promises to be an amazing story.
@brianbrady4496
@brianbrady4496 2 года назад
I just wish for once, just once, during One of these great naval battles near Japan Godzilla would burst out of the water and start throwing battleships and destroyers everywhere....
@stevenguild2707
@stevenguild2707 2 года назад
What about Rodan and Mothra?
@brianbrady4496
@brianbrady4496 2 года назад
@@stevenguild2707 all of them. Even the robot one. Lol
@catmonarchist8920
@catmonarchist8920 2 года назад
Would allies and axis unite against Godzilla? Does common humanity overcome fascism vs liberalism when faced with such a monstrosity?
@brianbrady4496
@brianbrady4496 2 года назад
I think china would unleash it's top secret weapon called the coronamissle..... It's would end it all
@chrisdaniels3929
@chrisdaniels3929 2 года назад
Godzilla was awoken as a result of US nuclear test bombs. I think the original from about 1948 is good viewing. I recommend watching it.
@metalman78602
@metalman78602 2 года назад
The Americal division is the 23rd and not the 25th. Thank you for your work.
@danielnavarro537
@danielnavarro537 2 года назад
Though the war is 3 years old. The end is coming. But now the Allies will win but not in glorious campaigns but series of brutal tiring offensives. These three battles, Battle of Guadalcanal, battle of El Alamein, and battle of Stalingrad, simply have shown the Allies, the United Nations, what it will take for them to defeat the Axis powers. Victory shall be but it will be a long and grueling cost. Godspeed. ✌️ 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 🇷🇺 🇺🇳
@BarryH1701
@BarryH1701 2 года назад
These videos need to be shown in history classes in school. They are extremely well done and it keeps my interest high,
@stanbrekston
@stanbrekston 2 года назад
don't worry, they will be.
@gunman47
@gunman47 2 года назад
_Kill the fascists! Show them no mercy!_ - Soviet Soldier This week on December 8 1942, the third and fourth missions of the 2005 video game *Call of Duty 2* , the *Repairing the Wire level* and *The Pipeline level* under *Private Vasili Ivanovich Koslov* begins at Stalingrad in the Soviet Union. In the *Repairing the Wire level* , you are to make repairs to the field phone wires between the HQ and the Solechnaya Street outpost. Once repairs are done, contact will be re-established with HQ and orders will be received to destroy Panzer II tanks that have been spotted in the area with sticky bombs. Next in *The Pipeline level* , you will start out in a pipe above the streets of Stalingrad and will need to navigate carefully through the pipes while watching for enemy fire below. Once the end of the pipe has been reached, the enemy HQ at the station house will need to be captured and afterwards, defended from a counter-attack. Lastly, an ammunition depot defended by enemy hardpoints will need to be destroyed as well. This level is somewhat like the Stalingrad Sewers level from Call of Duty 1.
@91plm
@91plm 2 года назад
José Paulus: "Oh hell nooooo!" - at some random stalingrad bunker, realizing he's being abandoned -
@shatterquartz
@shatterquartz 2 года назад
One minor nitpick: the map is a little off at 16:50. The red dot is not on Bordeaux but on Arcachon.
@stuartb9194
@stuartb9194 2 года назад
Dave, thanks for pointing that out, it's a glaring error in this free but otherwise phenomenal series.
@stanbrekston
@stanbrekston 2 года назад
I agree. it's not 'nitpicking' at all. we want to be as accurate as we can. so if there is a little 'flaw' in this monumental series, (because after all, they can make a mistake every now & then, we're all human), then it is up to us in the 'audience' to 'correct the record'. we don't hold it against Indie, & I'm sure he'd appreciate any minor corrections.
@stuartb9194
@stuartb9194 2 года назад
Stan, apologies but I was being a little tongue in cheek there, who is that pedantic about such a phenominal series, really!
@Valdagast
@Valdagast 2 года назад
I doubt there will be a Christmas Truce in Stalingrad...
@davidwright7193
@davidwright7193 2 года назад
It's Christmas time, there's no need to be afraid At Christmas time, we let in light and we banish shade And in our world of plenty we can spread a smile of joy Throw your arms around the world at Christmas time But say a prayer, Pray for the other ones At Christmas time it's hard, but when you're having fun There's a world outside your window And it's a world of dread and fear Where the only water flowing Is the bitter sting of tears And the Christmas bells that ring There are the clanging chimes of doom Well tonight thank God it's them instead of you
@Asahamana
@Asahamana 2 года назад
I would like to think that one german tried, we call him Jerry. He went to find some Soviets but they shot at him. This got Jerry into thinking that Soviets dont Have a christmas. Then on The new years Eve they heard loud music and drinking noises and Jerry was like: nuts. 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
@davidwright7193
@davidwright7193 2 года назад
@@Asahamana they ought to have tried again on second Christmas. The Orthodox Church still uses the Julian calendar.
@robertkras5162
@robertkras5162 2 года назад
Godless Communists and Godless Nazi's - there is no Christmas...
@Valdagast
@Valdagast 2 года назад
@@robertkras5162 The Waffen SS had belt buckles proclaiming "Got mitt uns", so I don't know that they were all that godless.
@malickfan7461
@malickfan7461 2 года назад
“The situation is grim as the Japanese troops face starvation.” Gets a food ad.
@guidor.4161
@guidor.4161 2 года назад
Your He-177 seems to be missing its port prop...😵
@krasnavin
@krasnavin 2 года назад
December 8, 1942 appears to be a tipping point in favor of Allies. I did not know this. Thanks!
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 2 года назад
“War’s getting longer” -Indy Neidell 2021
@1101millie97
@1101millie97 2 года назад
Now the Japanese on Guadalcanal and New Guinea understand what the Americans and Filipinos experienced on Bataan until they finally surrendered. Without the Death March, however.
@srinivasgorur-shandilya1788
@srinivasgorur-shandilya1788 2 года назад
strange that the soviet flag has been removed from the lineup behind indy. any reason behind this?
@cshaffrey3438
@cshaffrey3438 2 года назад
They are just switched around over time, don't think there's any hidden reason to it
@jeremy1392
@jeremy1392 2 года назад
I would kill for Drachinifel to do specials on the various navies a la Chieftain armor development vids
@MyLateralThawts
@MyLateralThawts 2 года назад
Strangely enough, in September 1942 a heavy lift transport entered service with the Luftwaffe, the Me-323 Gigant. Though it could carry in excess of 10 tons, it was slow and vulnerable to fighters, as demonstrated later when used in desperation to support the troops in North Africa (losing 27 aircraft in one mission). Still, the Luftwaffe seemed to have maintained air superiority during the Stalingrad airlift, so there must have been some other reasons why it wasn’t deployed there. Were the airfields the Germans held too small for the Gigant? Did it not have sufficient range to fly to Stalingrad and back without refueling? The Luftwaffe staff must have given reasons, so it would be nice to find out.
@caryblack5985
@caryblack5985 2 года назад
Yes the Luftwaffe investigated the use of glider in Hayward Stopped At Stalingrad p291-3 says they weren't used because 1. strong winds and bad weather 2. were very vulnerable to fighter attacks 3. no way to get them out of Stalingrad once they landed 4 facilities in the pocket were insufficient to handle gliders at airfield 5. If landed in open country there was not enough fuel so to reach and transport the supplies back to where they were needed.
@Ikit1Claw
@Ikit1Claw 2 года назад
Was the Gruppe Meyer named after Reischmarschall Hermann Meyer?
@Yora21
@Yora21 2 года назад
With these production standards, can't they get Indy a good microphone to record last minute edits from home?
@Cybonator
@Cybonator 2 года назад
I think Indie just like saying "Velikiye Luki"
@gordybing1727
@gordybing1727 2 года назад
Hi Y'all, The Geomorphology, or Landforms and Landform Processes, of Southern China. My reference has been the battle of Vicksburg, Mississippi in the American Civil War in 1863. During the Ice Age the sea level was about 600 feet or 200 meters lower than it is right now. Vicksburg, instead of being about 100 feet above sea level, was 700 feet, and if you look at the seafloor, there is not much of a shelf. That would increase the velocity of the water flowing thru the valley, scrubbing it clean, creating a V-shaped valley hundreds of feet deep. Then the sea level rose, the water started to back up, the sediment started settling. The valley filled up, creating the more or less flat landscape we see today. At Vicksburg, there is a hill, rising above the flood plain, and the river makes an S-curve around it. Trying to build a road across the bend, a "corduroy" road, of logs laid down, didn't really work. Can you see that the mud was hundreds of feet deep? Something General Grant could not have imagined was true. The rivers we see today in southern China must look a lot like the Mississippi, deep mud, and a flood plain about 10 miles or 16 kilometers wide. Unless the Japanese came upriver with force, a relatively small force at a place like Vicksburg could stop them. Thanks for your time, take care.
@jameskuyper
@jameskuyper 2 года назад
Wise people, including Churchill, saw the attack on Pearl Harbor as sealing the fate of the Axis, but last Christmas that was far from obvious. It seems to me that in 1942 the Allies must have celebrated Christmas with much more optimism about the outcome of the war than last year. Will you be doing any specials about civilian morale?
@Ensign_Nemo
@Ensign_Nemo 2 года назад
General Eisenhower wrote in his memoir "Crusade in Europe" that the planning staff for Operation Torch wanted to skip attacking Casablanca and attack Tunis instead. Their reasoning was that taking Casablanca did nothing to help them take Tunis, but taking Tunis would allow the Allies to solidify their grip on French North Africa, and Casablanca would then be isolated and fall without a significant fight. The Chiefs of Staff overruled them because they thought that attacking Tunis was too ambitious for the initial assault. In retrospect, Eisenhower was probably right.
@merdiolu
@merdiolu 2 года назад
It was Marshall and King who wished to capture Casablanca first to secure Morocco and southern end of Gibraltar in case Spain intervaned militarily in favor of Axis and attack Gibraltar. It was an empty and overrated fear though (British wanted to land on Tunisia as well but they were overruled) since after Rommel's decisive defeat at Second Battle of Alamein , Spanish became more and more neutral and Allied sided
@thebigdrew12
@thebigdrew12 2 года назад
Can someone check on Gianni? I don't see a tie rating yet and I'm concerned. EDIT: Found 'em. Glad to see they're fine
@Phoenix-ej2sh
@Phoenix-ej2sh 2 года назад
I am sending these words for use in the war effort.
@GunnyKeith
@GunnyKeith 2 года назад
HA HA HA. THAT PHONE CALL AT BEGINNING IS PRICELESS. LMAO. WELL DONE INDY.
@TheZINGularity
@TheZINGularity 2 года назад
Eaarly bird eats the frozen potatoes from the icy ground under soviet fire.
@patwiggins6969
@patwiggins6969 2 года назад
Japanese generals December 6th 1941'. So how many countries are we going to war against? Tojo and Yamamoto:. Yes
@pocketmarcy6990
@pocketmarcy6990 2 года назад
Latinamerica be like: what if we declared war on Japan?
@jadonberg9364
@jadonberg9364 2 года назад
3:56 I guess the Japanese failed to TAKE OUT THOSE FUCKING PT BOATS
@AdmiralAnderson
@AdmiralAnderson 2 года назад
At the start of the war Goering also promised no bombs would ever fall on the Reich so I doubt he'll be able to keep his promise of resupplying the Sixth army.
@stanbrekston
@stanbrekston 2 года назад
yeah, he actually said that if any bombs fell on Germany, then you could call him, 'Meyer'.
@danielmocsny5066
@danielmocsny5066 2 года назад
The only thing dumber than Goering was anyone who believed him twice.
@tommonk7651
@tommonk7651 2 года назад
Yamamoto estimated that the Pearl Harbor attack would buy Japan 6 months to a year of unfettered military success in the Pacific. He was right. Midway took place almost exactly 6 months after Pearl Harbor. The battle for Guadalcanal and the southern Marianas began shortly after that. It was all downhill for the Japanese after that. By early 1943, the Pacific war was all over but the crying. The Japanese had a few victories in battles here and there, but the end result was no longer in doubt.
@lycaonpictus9662
@lycaonpictus9662 2 года назад
Interestingly enough it was the Guadalcanal campaign, rather than the battle of Midway, that was more often cited in the postwar by surviving Japanese generals & admirals as the the point where Japan had lost the war.
@tams805
@tams805 2 года назад
@@lycaonpictus9662 I'd say that's because if you are losing suddenly, it takes time to admit it. By Guadalcanal though, the scales had already tipped. Guadalcanal was what really cemented it or rather brought the Japanese to the realisation that the scales had tipped.
@lycaonpictus9662
@lycaonpictus9662 2 года назад
@@tams805 I'd rank Midway above Guadalcanal in terms of impact as well, but only just. In many respects the impact of the Guadalcanal campaign is underrated, at least in popular memory, as the campaign tends to be overshadowed by Midway or by more bloodier and more attritional (albeit less decisive) ground battles that followed. In many respects the Guadalcanal campaign was the Kursk to Midway's Stalingrad.
@tommonk7651
@tommonk7651 2 года назад
@@lycaonpictus9662 Midway did significant damage to the Imperial Navy. To me, the Pacific War was about he strength of the navies and air force. During the Battle of Midway, the Japanese also invaded a couple of the Aleutian Islands, during which a Zero was forced down completely intact. The US captured that plane and reverse engineered it, figuring out where it was vulnerable. That helped quite a bit. But there's no question the lengthy Guadalcanal campaign exhausted the Japanese Army and Navy. They learned they would be unable to push the US out of the South Pacific theater.
@danielmocsny5066
@danielmocsny5066 2 года назад
The Battle of Midway was obviously important but the Americans were fighting as underdogs. It wasn't a real reflection of the course of the war. Rather, it was the Americans punching above their weight at the time and getting rather lucky with their dive bombers stumbling on the Japanese carriers at the best possible moment for the Allied cause. In the Guadalcanal campaign the Japanese probably had more luck, handing the USN some of its worst defeats in history. Yet the Allies still won because at this point the war is starting to mature into a battle of attrition. The US war machine is gearing up and is already able to outlast Japan in a longer contest of production and logistics, even while Operation Torch gets the lion's share. Along with New Guinea, Guadalcanal represents the first time when the US and Commonwealth forces meet the Japanese on the ground and turn them back. Allied air power is the difference-maker as well. Even though America has hardly any of its pre-war aircraft carriers left, Japan cannot capitalize because Japan does not have enough remaining carrier strength of its own to take out one Allied-held airfield. Henderson Field is the key to the whole campaign, since it greatly complicates Japan's ability to resupply its forces on Guadalcanal. America's war machine will soon be turning out new ships, airplanes, tanks, and everything else at a pace the Axis cannot hope to match. Then it will just be a question of how many Japanese soldiers, sailors, and airmen will commit suicide in a pointless attempt to delay the inevitable Allied victory.
@peakart8850
@peakart8850 2 года назад
Indy, this show is absolutely incredible. Thank you for doing this for us; for teaching us all about this treacherous war, and for spending so much of your time on it! Keep up the amazing work, and I love your outfit!
@danielmocsny5066
@danielmocsny5066 2 года назад
I would argue that the show is credible.
@reddeaddude2187
@reddeaddude2187 2 года назад
My Great Uncle Sgt. H.E. Echols "Bucky" died just a day after the 80th anniversary of Pearl Harbor. He had fought in North Africa, France, Italy and Germany with his three brothers.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 2 года назад
I wont like your comment. I will offer my sympathies for your loss.
@reddeaddude2187
@reddeaddude2187 2 года назад
@@shawnr771 Thank you. It always felt weird for me to "Like" someone's comment about a death or something of that nature as well.
@mikaelcrews7232
@mikaelcrews7232 2 года назад
The Axis turned there back on one another in June! The Nazis were mad that the Japanese didn't attack the Russians in the Manchurian boarder.... And Japan was upset that the Nazis for not taking more pressure in the Atlantic on the United States too pull off more ships to guard against an possible invasion!! Both of them turn there back on one another after that! Paulice was tightening his belt and still waiting for more supplies! Vandergrief and his boys are heading towards Brisbane for some much needed Rest and Relaxing!!! Along with the tropic lightening Division......
@stanbrekston
@stanbrekston 2 года назад
but you also can't forget, that the soviets were also mad at the Western Allies for not opening up a second front, in order to take pressure off themselves.
@mikaelcrews7232
@mikaelcrews7232 2 года назад
@@stanbrekston wait until Molotov comes to Washington and he gets the reason why!
@mohammadalibakawi6617
@mohammadalibakawi6617 2 года назад
wow man, time flies. And herman goerring didnt standup to his promise !!!! WOW !
@chrisdaniels3929
@chrisdaniels3929 2 года назад
Do you plan to cover the British Empire/ allied air crew training set up in Zimbabwe (Southern Rhodesia)? I found it was an interesting story.
@johnfruhwald6704
@johnfruhwald6704 2 года назад
Thanks!
@hannahskipper2764
@hannahskipper2764 2 года назад
I watched the Pearl Harbor episodes again this week. Took me three days to do it but it was something special to remember it by. Just like last year. It's hard to believe all that has happened this year and we're only just past halfway too! Great job to Indy, Sparty, Astrid, Anna, and all the rest of the crew. You're the Kings, Queen, Princes, and Princesses of Fucking Everything! I salute you!
@MrXenon1994
@MrXenon1994 2 года назад
December 9, 1942. Private First Class James Smith of the 1st Marine Division is finally fully relieved by the United States Army on Guadalcanal after 4 months of active combat duty. He and all the marines like him are tired, filthy and nasty. Their uniforms are tattered and dirty, their hearts hardened and their senses sharpened. When he finishes his climb over the side of the troop transport ship, he can hardly believe his luck. He and his division are now headed to Melbourne, Australia for rest and refit.
@monjhunesacaguing7195
@monjhunesacaguing7195 2 года назад
They only suffered a few thousand men. They're making it look like they lost half the division.
@MrXenon1994
@MrXenon1994 2 года назад
@@monjhunesacaguing7195 Even still, marines had a lingering paranoia that the Japanese would eventually overwhelm their positions and/or the US military would abandon them to their fate, especially after the defeat at Savo Island.
@danielmocsny5066
@danielmocsny5066 2 года назад
Headed to Melbourne, Australia for rest and refit...and above all, the Sheilas.
@thedeadcannotdie
@thedeadcannotdie 2 года назад
The way they taught it in school, I used to think the wehrmacht just collapsed after Stalingrad and were basically in a constant retreat until surrender.
@byrnemeister2008
@byrnemeister2008 2 года назад
Some way to go yet. Only just over half way.
@philbrown6787
@philbrown6787 2 года назад
Kinda like after Gettysburg for the South. Still two years hard fighting to go
@kentuckyball
@kentuckyball 2 года назад
It was closer to collapse after Kursk
@ivefabris7690
@ivefabris7690 2 года назад
One of the killed in Gibraltar was the commander of the mission, Licio Visintini, he was from my hometown, his older brother Mario dwas killed in february 1941 in East Africa...
@norwegiantactician
@norwegiantactician 2 года назад
On December 8 in the game Call of Duty 2 in mission Repairing the Wire, Vasili Ivanovich Koslov in Stalingrad is sent to repair wires between HQ and Solechnaya Street outpost. After fixing the wires and reestablishes communication with regimental HQ, Vasili destroys german Panzer II tanks. After destroying the last tank, one of the soldiers say they are needed at the trainyard. Vasili and his comrades begin making their way there. Vasili writes in his diary that "Lt. Volsky says it has changed hands twelve times in the past six hours." Advancing via a pipeline, Vasili reaches second squad in the train yard and captures the egerman HQ at station house. After repelling a german attack and destroying an enemy tank, Vasili and second squad clears a german supply dumb, forward position and a machine gun position. After regrouping, one of the squad members remarks "No doubt they'll be back in a couple of hours" and the squad heads back to station house.
@oldesertguy9616
@oldesertguy9616 2 года назад
I miss that game. When I went to Windows 10 it started getting buggy and I gave it to someone with a Windows 7 computer.
@norwegiantactician
@norwegiantactician 2 года назад
It works fine for me thankfully and I'm on Windows 11.
@МихаилЧерников-п2т
Not Solechnaya, it’s Solnechnaya. Also it is real street
@norwegiantactician
@norwegiantactician 2 года назад
My bad. Thanks for the correction.
@oldesertguy9616
@oldesertguy9616 2 года назад
@@norwegiantactician I was using the old CD based game. I need to try a download.
@Warmaker01
@Warmaker01 2 года назад
The Japanese would lose more men to starvation on Guadalcanal than they did fighting against the Americans. They had no port to more easily offload supplies at for their army there, and the threat of naval and air attacks was bleeding losses in ships and men that the IJN could not afford. Japan can't replace their Destroyer losses easily, and those ships fulfill lots of functions: Escorting capital ships, convoy escorting, and numerous surface actions that navies don't want to risk expensive Cruisers and Battleships for. To make matters worse on any Japanese prospect for replacing Destroyer losses, is the problems caused by the IJN's defeat at Midway earlier, and the loss of 4 big Carriers. Those CV losses had the IJN scrambling to find more flight decks for the navy: - They were already looking at building Unryu-class Carriers, based on Hiryu, and more will have to be made. - Ibuki-class Heavy Cruisers that had started construction earlier in 1942 were being converted to become Light Carriers instead. - Taking the two Ise-class Battleships to become a hybrid Battleship - Carrier. The IJN was in a desperate situation.
@Raskolnikov70
@Raskolnikov70 2 года назад
More than just the limited Japansese production numbers, the comparison between theirs and American production capability was downright scary for the IJN. The US Navy could afford to keep losing capital ships and carriers in big stupid attritional battles, because there would be three ships to replace the one sunk by that time next year.
@legatvsdecimvs3406
@legatvsdecimvs3406 2 года назад
It also affects their Anti-Submarine capabilities with Destroyer losses. US Submarines in 1942 are mostly ineffective because of torpedo design problems. But in 1943-44 these problems are resolved and it will have very negative effects on the Japanese cargo and passenger ships.
@lycaonpictus9662
@lycaonpictus9662 2 года назад
@@legatvsdecimvs3406 The battle of the Atlantic tends to be at the forefront of what people imagine when think of submarine warfare, but the US submarine campaign against Japan was the most successful submarine campaign in all of human history. It just didn't get as much war time press. By war's end Japan's merchant fleet will be crippled, possessing only 12% of it's prewar shipping, with the nation starved off resources and the economy a shambles. 55% of those losses were sustained against US Submarines, which also sank 30% of the Japanese navy.
@davidhimmelsbach557
@davidhimmelsbach557 2 года назад
Indy, the Big Deal with the British 1st Army was that -- at the time -- the Allies had nothing like the landing mats seen later in the war. What this meant was that with each landing, the visibility for pilots simply collapsed. THAT'S why only a trickle of machines could fly. My own Father was tasked with hauling landing mats to 21st AG in Normandy. This made his outfit essentially unique: he transited across the army group boundary day after day. When he first rolled up, the RAF was landing the 2nd, 3rd, etc. machine into a dust storm. Spits were cracking up right and left. Even by 1944, the RAF had not addressed the landing dust issue. (Winston had to phone FDR to obtain the American solution.) You'd might have thought that the RAF would've conjured up water-trucks by this stage -- but they didn't. No air force addressed the dust issue, AFAIK, straight through the war... though the USAAF did bring in landing mats... a semi-solution. Capture of Bizerte would've ruined Tunis as a military port. It was just waiting for Allied occupation. Ken Anderson hailed from the Mark Clark school of military incompetence.
@steved5495
@steved5495 2 года назад
Being their first real campaign, you expect the Americans to be not very competent. I would have thought after Monty's example that the same wouldn't be true of the British. It just goes to show how rare military competence really is. The same sort of mistakes made by 8th Army pre-Monty are made by the British and especially the Americans in the Tunisian West.
@caryblack5985
@caryblack5985 2 года назад
@@steved5495 he US Army was going through a learning curve as all armies do when they enter combat especially against an experienced force. If you want to know about that and how the US gained experience and combat effectiveness read Atkinson An Army At Dawn
@steved5495
@steved5495 2 года назад
@@caryblack5985 Atkinson was my source. Until this channel covered 8th Army's campaign against Rommel I hadn't been aware of how badly the British fought pre-Monty. Both Anderson, 1st Allied Army commander, and Fredendal, II US corps commander, fought their forces as battalions, regiments, and brigades rather than as divisions and corps. The attacks all lacked mass and, at least for the Americans, lacked higher supervision of officers for whom this was the first time in combat. This is going to bite them eventually.
@caryblack5985
@caryblack5985 2 года назад
@@steved5495 Yes it is a very good source .It should be even more widely read especially for those who think the US just began with only winning battles and had nothing to learn from the enemy.
@philbrown6787
@philbrown6787 2 года назад
MacArthur with his American troops have to eat crow because of their performance at buna gona after criticizing Australian troops the whole time on Papua NG *spelling edit
@stryker214
@stryker214 2 года назад
Were the PT boats led by the Tiger of the Pacific, Quinton McHale? :D (yes this post is only in jest)
@Weeboslav
@Weeboslav 2 года назад
Axis troops are starving and cannot fight Red Army:Amateurs!
@Shadowman4710
@Shadowman4710 2 года назад
"Herman's an idiot? Well....yeah." ::Dies::
@tutored2today438
@tutored2today438 2 года назад
Good job Indy another enjoyable episode.
@timp9974
@timp9974 2 года назад
Thanks!
@IrishTechnicalThinker
@IrishTechnicalThinker 2 года назад
Merry Christmas World War Two! A year of brilliant content and a reminder how blessed we all are to watch this for free on RU-vid. I just pay for Internet. Thank you.
@stanbrekston
@stanbrekston 2 года назад
well, if you like this series so much, then spread the word.
@derblah9006
@derblah9006 2 года назад
3 torpedoes sink 4 ships!? That’s a story I want to hear
@ToddSauve
@ToddSauve 2 года назад
Indy, I have a question. Why were Soviet armoured units so ineffective against German armour? Was their training that much inferior? Did they still not have radios in all the Russian tanks at the end of 1942? The T34 is generally a highly regarded tank but the Russians seemed profoundly inept at using it with any effectiveness.
@ToddSauve
@ToddSauve 2 года назад
@@GaldirEonai Thanks for your reply. I don't know much about tank tactics, but recon is super important because vision is so restricted. Why didn't the Russians do adequate recon in order to know where those hard points were and then shell them out of existence before attacking? It just seems like there were a lot of incompetent officers in charge. I suppose Stalin's purge of the officer corps in the late 1930s was still being severely felt at the end of 1942. And when the fast way to rise in the ranks was to be a yes man communist, the talent was squelched badly unless they would spout communist nonsense.
@legatvsdecimvs3406
@legatvsdecimvs3406 2 года назад
It's easy to sit here 80 years later and criticize everything having a complete map of the situation on the battlefield not covered in fog and snow. While most of the commanders on the Soviet side here of recently organized units had received only accelerated training and were generally very young(many Company commanders were only 21 years old and inexperienced, made many errors in judgement). 1. Soviet operational objectives were kept limited. 2nd Battalion is to take point A and proceed to point B the next day. More experienced commanders who received complete training could shift forces to support nearby units or could decide to go around heavily defended enemy positions, but this was not the case at this point. 2. Soviet Forces by December 1942 had extended beyond their own supply lines which were dependent on functioning railroads to the north. Ammunition and fuel was limited because of this. 3. Weather was generally bad in Southern Russia in December 1942 limiting Soviet aircraft operations to support Ground Forces. It also contributed to overall poor situational awareness on the battlefield with the enemy's(Axis) defenses obscured by walls of snow and fog. 4. Using radios would be counterproductive, as German Field Intelligence units would listen to what was being said on unencrypted channels of radios of this time, which had only a few set frequencies for all units. This was like telling the enemy what you planned to do. Before Operation "Uranus" Axis positions had been mapped out with exact locations for Soviet Artillery to hit and neutralize. Here the situation was constantly changing where unknown to the Soviet unit commander he could find himself surrounded because his neighboring unit was not where it was supposed to be. The German Wehrmacht is not yet depleted and still has many experienced reserves.
@МихаилЧерников-п2т
30-40% of soviet tanks are light tanks, not only t34s
@ToddSauve
@ToddSauve 2 года назад
@@legatvsdecimvs3406 I know it is easy to criticize so I do little of it unless there are things happening that should have been thought of beforehand. Heavily politicized armies are almost always incompetent until the cream can finally rise to the top. It is horrifying that the Russians had to take such casualties in order to make much headway. This went on throughout 1943, with them taking terrible and colossal losses at Kursk. The Germans took bad losses, as well, but even at Kursk the Russians generally took up to five times the losses the Germans did. I doubt that it was due to inferior courage on the Russian side. That only leaves equipment or leadership. I am not a fan of political generals, regardless of which side they are on. They are much too often incompetent or just plainly corrupt. Thank you for your reply and the points you outlined! 👌
@ToddSauve
@ToddSauve 2 года назад
@@МихаилЧерников-п2т OK, but that still leaves 60 to 70% of their tanks being much more capable. Training must have been not as good as their enemy's. Thank you for your reply. 👌
@tams805
@tams805 2 года назад
What the Imperial Japanese ultimately didn't count on was humiliating and damaging the pride of other *nations* (especially empires - of which the US was one) when they have done nothing to you. They thought they could keep their newly conquered lands, but to the Allies it was unconscionable. Revenge had to be sought. Then add in the local populaces seeing chances to eventually get freedom and how badly they were treated under Japanese colonial rule in only just a short time.
@mgway4661
@mgway4661 2 года назад
Great episode Indy and Timeghost Team!
@gregsiska8599
@gregsiska8599 2 года назад
-Just wondering how much longer MacArthur is going to keep on trying to grind down the Japanese in New Guinea, and instead try something different...
@theother1281
@theother1281 2 года назад
Was rewatching this today and thinking about Indy's comments that Japan's running wild was stopped at Midway. However, Japan's first operational failure wasn't Midway, it was Coral Sea with Shōhō being sunk on the six month anniversary of Pearl Harbour.
@donkee011
@donkee011 2 года назад
Damn you education, for spoiling this fantastic series for me!
@naveenraj2008eee
@naveenraj2008eee 2 года назад
Hi Indy Another awesome episode.. This war now in moved towards allied victory.. Seems like axis will lose.. Horror of stalingrad battle.. Can't wait to see upcoming episode. Thanks..
@kalle911
@kalle911 2 года назад
6th army in Stalingrad is pretty much what my campaigns in HoI 4 amount to : )
@mognut1
@mognut1 2 года назад
i love this show so much
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 года назад
Thank you for your kind words and your support!
@yuuzyerbrejn9603
@yuuzyerbrejn9603 2 года назад
How different, considering the divisions in the US regarding overseas wars, would it all have been if the Japanese had NOT attacked Pearl Harbor! They could have done everything else they did, while apologizing and recompensing for any time they affected a US asset, and we would have been paralyzed with indecision and opposition to sending our boys to some far away hell hole for what? While Europe crumbles. I think it would have bought Japan this past year b4 America got involved. Instead, they united us with Pearl Harbor.
@dragosstanciu9866
@dragosstanciu9866 2 года назад
The US involvement was inevitable, with or without the attack on Pearl Harbor, the USA could not allow the Axis to dominate Europe and East Asia.
@wwoods66
@wwoods66 2 года назад
Invading and occupying the Philippines would still bring the US into the war. Maybe there wouldn't be the white-hot passion on the American side, but "Remember Bataan!" would replace "Remember Pearl Harbor!" The battleships would remain the core of the US Navy for a while.
@mxmaverinho8115
@mxmaverinho8115 2 года назад
I always wondered that if the axis won ww2, if they would end up fighting each other. Did the nazi's see asians as untermenschen as well?
@kaletovhangar
@kaletovhangar 2 года назад
It's not important if they saw them as lesser men,that is just propaganda fodder for masses.Suposedly,in Mein Kampf, Hitler thought of Japanese as useful tools of German expansion,there is even a scene in Japanese 2011 movie Admiral (Yamamoto) where he and colleagues scold some of subordinates for blindly trusting heavily edited Japanese translation of the book where he pulls out German original and in fluent German reads and then translates to them such a passage. Geopolitically,they certainly would have eventually fought one another.There are no eternal allies, only eternal interests.
@auguststorm2037
@auguststorm2037 2 года назад
You mean Japanese ? Well for Nazis the top race was Germanic so yeah they there inferior. However since they were allies and fought the same enemy, the Japanese were granted "honorary aryen" title by the German propaganda. Once the war over it might ending in a sort of "Cold war" between former axis powers, with Germany controlling Europe and Japan - Asia. However I don't see how US could be defeated/occupied by Axis power since none of Germany and even Japan had the capacity to do so
@Raskolnikov70
@Raskolnikov70 2 года назад
Phillip K. Dick's novel "The Man in the High Castle" (the book, not the gawdawful TV show) is one of the best alternate takes on what might have happened if the Axis prevailed. Essentially a grimmer version of the real post-WWII world with worse conditions in colonial lands (instead of the independence movement of the '50s) and a slow-simmering cold war between Germany and Japan. Hard to say if they would have eventually launched WWIII or gone the way of the US/USSR conflict that stayed a proxy war until the Soviet system fell apart.
@lycaonpictus9662
@lycaonpictus9662 2 года назад
Yes. Perhaps not immediately, but that was planned for some undetermined day in the (possibly far) future. The Nazi belief system was really bizarre, not just because of their race theory nonsense, but because there was no room in it for cooperation between peoples or nations. It was all a zero sum game where every nation was in deadly competition for mastery over each other. After colonization of the eastern conquests, which would have also involved genocide on an unprecedented scale, the Nazis envisioned that their empire would fight future wars against both the United States & nations in Asia for global hegemony. The German state, in their hands, would have been in a near constant state of either war or preparation for future conquests. Peace was merely a temporary pause to prepare for the next.
@jakubcesarzdakos5442
@jakubcesarzdakos5442 2 года назад
I loved that "Hermann's an idiot" of today
@mohammadalibakawi6617
@mohammadalibakawi6617 2 года назад
I have great respect for this channel and the team, the amount of work they put in is mind boggling when you consider that its AVAILABE TO EVERYONE. I guess this is what true passion for a craft looks like. Thx WW2 team, you are a blessing
@danielmocsny5066
@danielmocsny5066 2 года назад
2:41 - those 850 Axis airplanes diverted to North Africa are sorely needed to help relieve the 6th Army at Stalingrad. While North Africa is a sideshow compared to the Eastern Front, in terms of Axis and Allied armies engaged, it's a critical sideshow. The Axis having 850 fewer airplanes to support Mannstein and Paulus severely weakens its key advantage over the numerically superior Red Army: air power. And those Axis airplanes in Africa aren't facing the overmatched Soviet Air Forces, but RAF and USAAF units capable of engaging them on closer to even terms, and growing in strength by the week. Having pioneered the modern art of combined arms to power their early victories, the Germans are due for a taste of their own medicine.
@thanos_6.0
@thanos_6.0 2 года назад
Another great episode as usual
@pantonman
@pantonman 2 года назад
"GONA'S GONE." Signal sent at the fall of Gona by Lt Col Ralph Honner, commanding officer of Australian 39th Battalion
@keithrosenberg5486
@keithrosenberg5486 2 года назад
The Axis lines and supply lines in North Africa were contracting while the Allied lines were expanding.
@BinhNguyen-tw8zo
@BinhNguyen-tw8zo 2 года назад
GOOD JOB!
@tonigrinton_9821
@tonigrinton_9821 Год назад
Stanno mettendo anche i sottotitoli anche in italiano bene!
@rhysjackson9756
@rhysjackson9756 2 года назад
Worth the wait, always quality!
@Darwinek
@Darwinek 2 года назад
Can someone explain the meaning of "shock" in shock army? How was a shock army different from a regular army?
@danielmocsny5066
@danielmocsny5066 2 года назад
Wikipedia has an article "Shock troops" which explains the difference. The article begins with: "Shock troops or assault troops are formations created to lead an attack. They are often better trained and equipped than other infantry, and expected to take heavy casualties even in successful operations." The article goes on to explain, among other things, the USSR's shock armies in WWII.
@sandhopper99
@sandhopper99 2 года назад
The British 🇬🇧 have had a really bad year in Asia. But in February 1943 they start the fight back with the first Chindit expedition. I hope you will devote 500 words to this.
@stimublu8570
@stimublu8570 2 года назад
Poor Herman lost 90% of his transports at Operation Flak.
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