Sharing what's inside is worth waaaaay more than $166. You should have just put a different good core in it and sacrificed this one. The giveaway winner would have been more than happy regardless. RU-vid videos will be up forever and you disappointed every person who will ever watch this over a few dollars.
Well, to ME $166 is a lot of money. Since each video earns me less than $20 (does EVERYONE use adblockers?....Yes!), the math just didn't work out in my favor. Tell you what though, since you place the knowledge value at "waaaay more than $166", why don't you send one of those locks to me and I'll gut it for everyone to see. We all REALLY appreciate your generosity and willingness to share information with all of us in LockSport! Your offer is incredibly generous and I'll be sure to credit you with the donation in the gutting video too. Please send the lock to: LockLab, P.O. Box 1620, Merrifield, VA 22116. Thank you in advance and I'll be checking the PO box every couple of days.
Not sure why people would be disappointed. I like watching them to see how secure locks are. This one is a win in my book, don't need to see all of it. It shows that it won't be picked anytime soon with current methods.
Some guy already has picked one 8 months ago. He didn't have much of a problem with it. But, it has to be picked 3 times. 2 sides, 1 side, 1 side. When will lock makers figure out...If the pins can be tensioned, the lock can most likely be picked.
@@MrDLRu I don't think it's meant to be unpickable. I think it's meant to be extremely difficult. The main point of this core is that you can't just snap a picture of the key and make a copy.
That 3d printing technique is used by a company in Canada to make intricate parts for HIGH PRESSURE ALUMINUM CASTING at extreme temperatures. That key will probably be alright.
To be fair, even plastic FDM can be made a lot more durable than people assume. 4 perimeters with a 0.4mm nozzle +40% gyroid won me a bet when a 3 kg hammer failed to destroy or even noticeably damage a printed stepladder leg tip.
Looks like sintered metal printing, which is really awesome! I was lucky enough tto get a pit tour with an F1 team, and they used 3D printing to make replacement parts for their cars.. And it immediatly trigged my 'I want one!' response.. Until they told me the cost, which was a LOT of $$$. I still have a plan to set up a machinist training facility with this kind of printing to make parts for people.
I think this is actuall Swiss firm. At least headquaters is there and there is branch in Czech Republic. And the lock itself is 'logically' made in Sweden. ;)
It looks like a Swiss firm all the way through, but, names of people behind the company in About Us on their websites are mostly Czech. Definitely interesting business cooperation on such a niche market as high security locks are.
Jiří Komoň it's really weird. One of the founders is Swiss, born and bred, while the other is Spanish but studied in Switzerland. There's also a Swiss, Regula Buob who isn't mentioned on the about us page but is listed as the president of the board of directors. It looks like maybe a couple of guys in Switzerland had an idea and got a bunch of Czech folks to develop and sell it?
It's a standard lock body from Sweden, engraved with the Urban Alps brand. That lock body accepts any Scandinavian style door cylinder, so Urban Alps bought some empty padlocks and installed their own door cylinders before selling the combined product as their own
It's not too surprising. Many, even small, companies work across borders in Europe and although Switzerland isn't in the EU it has multiple agreements that allow very easy cross border working.
Now that they are 3D Printing actual rocket engines I feel toughness is not automatically void for printed parts. I expect things will all the faster get both weird and innovative for locks in the next few years.
As well as ship propellers for massive ships and all maintenance parts using fused filament fabrication - basically a mig welder attached to a CNC machine.
Yeah "3d printing" with metal is a completely different process that what we normally look at as 3D printing, and TBH they should come up with a better term for it.
@@kidthorazine The correct term for one method is DMLS, Direct Metal Laser Sintering. It's a fine metal powder that is spread, lasered, and then repeated layer by layer. It's been tested to be as strong as similar casted/forged parts with the advantage of having very complex shapes for weight saving (Koenigsberg gives some credit for their 1:1 power/weight ratio to the tech). If I had to guess, these keys are done using that method.
Hey bill, so you got one yourself and I am glad you did! Too bad you couldn't pick it but that is what expected of a high security lock such as this one. Thanks also for mentioning me :) I will try to get my hands on a cutaway to make a more detailed review of how the locks works. Your friend, Adrian
Well Bill, after watching these videos forever and debating getting into the hobby, I've decided to finally order a quality set. I've got myself a Sparrows Night School + tuxedo edition. Can't wait to try picking for myself. Thanks so much for making these videos, it's great entertainment and I am sure you are helping people discover a hobby they never would have thought of.
Bill has stepped back but I hope your hobby is going well & that you're enjoying your locks. You made some good choices and I hope they're bringing you pleasure. Stay well.
Wow....I love how strong the key is! I was one of the ones who thought 3D printed keys couldnt be that strong. Thanks for showing us how the key took that damage. Send this guy straight to the naughty bucket. First lock of this type I've seen.
What a lock! As much as i want to see all the insides of every lock, if you have to destroy it in order to make me happy, just don't . It's a beautiful lock, and i'll figure out how to pick one like it, eventually.
I just saw Starrylock post a video of his a few days ago and couldn't make out the bitting at all, thanks for trashing one of the keys to show us. Looks like a hell of a lock, I'd love to win it 😃👍
Ive 3d printed a 70cc cylinder for my scooter, also all kinds of bushings and spacers, new set of rims and rear shock absorber adaptors - nothing broken after 1 and a half years of usage....
They 3D-print hydraulic valve assemblies that handle hundreds of bars (thousands of PSI) of pressure at high temperatures. We had a guy in the shop (I build furnaces) that wanted to test one of our furnaces for annealing 3D-printed Inconel, and from my point of view the test part looked perfectly fine after having sat at 700C all night.
I have a theory Bill. The pins engaged by the bitting on the key slide on an arc, essentially rotating. They are cammed surfaces, which are engaging pins in the central bar they are rotating in to.Those cammed sliders are pushed into specific orientations to move the actual pins to the correct orientation. Sort of like the cammed sliders are key bitting themselves on the pins. Basically double bitting, on the key itself, and then the cammed surfaces of those sliders engaged by the key bitting, to become bitting on the actual tumbler pins, which are actually located axially in the centre of the tumbler. Maybe double pinned? However you want to say it. Such an arrangement would give very little feedback if manufactured to the tolerances needed for everything to move so smoothly. That's a guess based more on my training in mechanical engineering than anything lock related. I'm rubbish at locks. Understand the mechanics, but lack the feel to pick them.
WoW! This is one of the very few times I've seen you review a lock and not find a flaw in the design. I'm thinking the shank looks cutable ,unless its Unobtainium ! 😉
I really like your work here. We learn a lesson from gimmick locks like this. Namely that they all rely on obscurity for their security. The Bowley is tragically vuln, as is the "Forever" lock, and all the various "pick-proof" and "bump-proof" locks we've seen come out over the years. I call them, "Smaug Locks." Because once you find the bare patch in the armor--and there ALWAYS is one--the dragon falls...a-la XPUZMAG.....
Very cool lock Bill. I am impressed that you would completely Muller a key to see whats under the hood. As soon as you said Dremel I thought,oh, he's going to grind away the name side. Nope. I was wrong. Lol Cheers for the videos, really enjoy them !
When I first saw these; my immediate response was, "Those are going to be expensive". I'd like to know if these will catch on, and how long they'll actually stick around...
To the people thinking that metal 3D printing isn't strong enough: Koenigsegg print their turbocharger cases with a metal 3D printer and Rocket Lab even prints a figgin ROCKET ENGINE!
i would hazard a guess and say there is a spring loaded mechanism near the back of the lock that prevents the core turning without a key fully inserted. apply slight tension and put a pick to the back of the keyway and press if you get slight rotation on the core yeh thats it but may need some pins to be set for that to happen maybe grow a third hand :D
Plastic 3d printing would be iffy, but possible to design around. Metal 3d printing is absolutely strong enough. It's sintered metal, and it's no weaker than any other metal manufacturing process so long as proper care is taken in design.
Checked Urban Alps web-site. They sell cutaway locks. Mega-expensive. (They actually also recommend to "lube" moving parts of a pad lock with WD40!? ) BTW, that Anchor lock body isn't cheap, isn't cheap at all. The cylinder and lock combination actually has an attractive price-point in my humble opinion. The same body with an ASSA SCD pin-tumbler (I have a couple of those combinations) costs about the same.
The tensioning tool ordinarily rotates the lock innards, but the way you were using it in this video it could not possibly rotate the innards, it was only attempting to push the core off its axis, which of course it could not. Maybe a custom spanner like a fork that would fit in the two slots would be able to apply the rotational torque needed...but then the darn slots are obscured for your picks. Maybe a tapered cone that would fit in the gap, and a lever to rotate the cone might be able to rotationally tension the innards. My own ignorance is wide-ranging and deep, and I really like your videos. Thank you for them.
I wonder if they 3D printed the whole core, I know that you can 3D print with many materials some with multiple heads to print with different materials at the same time, you could print the lock body with the key inside it and use a water soluble material in between to have perfect alignment and tolerances and the water soluble material around all the moving pieces too.
right from stealth key 2 blocking bars controlled by 14 rotating and spring-loaded steel discs. The Stealth Key superalloy makes the key almost indestructible; the key withstands temperatures over 2000°C
Great design. It's hard to say for certain just from the video, but it looks like they are using the (left and right "roof") pins to transfer to a second set of (standard vertical) center core hidden pins. It's definitely worth taking it apart.
Albert Rieder I can't get a URL but go to Urban Alps, click on Padlocks, and right under the 4th padlock picture is "Technical Brochure" which link will let you download a pdf. This has good diagrams of the guts.
@@kylek29 Looking at the cutaway you can see why it is so hard to get, due to the key design, the leeway you have to get a pick through the low pins it just over 1-1½ mm. That is not giving you much maneuver room.
I really like your locklab Intro. The 3D logo and bright colors are pretty cool. Must have taken a bit of effort and time to make that. Almost forgot... HAPPY 4TH OF JULY!
Bill have you tried picking both sides at once like Leonardo da Vinci used to write with both hands at once! I guess you'd need someone to help tension ...maybe you and LPL could team up on that one!
Try to remove the allen screw on the core, pur the key in, hold the key and Turn the Brass Part Part with pliers to unscrew it... Maybe there is a thread... 🤷🏻♂️
If you buy this lock, you'll sacrife security against opening attempts by force for being basically lockpicking proof (even if Bosnian Bil or some other high skilled lock picker finds a way, a regular thief won't know about it). That might be interesting for lock enthusiast but I don't think it makes much sense for actual use as breaking by force is far more common. You'll get a padlock with a thicker shackle and shackle guard (and an average lock) for the same price.
What a monster keyway and bidding,no tool will work on it,first time you could not get an open,scary to think all my tools are for nothing,someone figure it out please,cheers Mal in BC
I suspect this has a reverse sidebar similar to the old gm locks, which would explain the fact that none of the sliders retract, the ball bearing would only center the core for easy removal of the key due to precise tolerances.
Totally awesome lock, I’ve just received mine today. Thanks for the info Bill I was just about to see how to disassemble it, you just saved me a job. Have a great weekend.
you could cash out all of your monetized videos and even take sponsorships to get the money. that would be a great lock for prisons and jails because in prisons they have a chronic problem with some prisoners being able to see the key and from memory make a new key .
