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175: Joshua Rifkin (One voice per part in Bach | Scott Joplin) 

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Pleased to share my new interview with Professor Joshua Rifkin!
We discuss his experiences in the New York Avant Garde circle of the 50's and 60's, his influential recordings of Scott Joplin that popularized Ragtime, and his theory of "One Voice per part" in Bach's vocal music that has seen great controversy and debate in modern performance practice.
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Комментарии : 15   
@ericnagler1
@ericnagler1 8 месяцев назад
Hi Josh, greetings from an old confrere of those rich musical times.
@MusicaAngela
@MusicaAngela 8 месяцев назад
At 17:00 he says, "tonal music seemed impossibly the wrong thing" and then he adds "even though it had been around for 50 years". To me, this was an arrogance the music world could have done without. I am still scared by that attitude having studied composition in the '70's with various emperors who were wearing no clothes.
@superblondeDotOrg
@superblondeDotOrg 8 месяцев назад
Well now the same egotistical attitude exists but has been replaced by jazz study from elitists who insist that jazz is superior to all (even though today's jazz is unlistenable according to all audience measurements). Even though these same academics have no knowledge or ability to write figured bass or counterpoint they make the rules that jazz is mandatory to study.
8 месяцев назад
Oh, this is exciting! I'm going to listen to it right away!
@RichardusCochlearius
@RichardusCochlearius 8 месяцев назад
Hello! How are you doing?
8 месяцев назад
Hi Richardus! :) Always nice to see a familiar face.
@lazarus_alonsius
@lazarus_alonsius 8 месяцев назад
I find it a little funny that whenever I find a super obscure video on early music I see a comment of yours
@angryjalapeno
@angryjalapeno 3 месяца назад
One per part was probably a reality in Bach's time. However in the modern world, one per part in a large or even medium space is inadequate for a paying audience especially when brass and drums were involved. Ive heard Bach St Matthew with 1 per part and the voices were barely audible. In my mind that for certain heavily instrumented vocal works if Bach had access to 3 or 4 superb voices, he would have used 3 or 4 per part. If however singers are allowed to use amplification, I'm all for 1 per part.
@johnrothfield6126
@johnrothfield6126 8 месяцев назад
Solace, magnetic rag, favorites of joshua
@johnrothfield6126
@johnrothfield6126 8 месяцев назад
Even dozen jug band!!
@MusicaAngela
@MusicaAngela 8 месяцев назад
That's so fascinating that it was the Beatles who began to deflate the egos of the paragons of "high culture".
@superblondeDotOrg
@superblondeDotOrg 8 месяцев назад
01:30:20 So if Bach were alive today, he would be writing music for Barbershop Quartets. 😂
@superblondeDotOrg
@superblondeDotOrg 8 месяцев назад
30:00 So, The Beatles, who were a girl-band/boy-band, with members who knew zero music theory and were guided by a classical composer as manager, and who were deliberately designed to woo preteen girls for profit with vocal harmony and simplistic melodies, is what destroyed the horrible Serialist and Minimalist classist empire. wtf...! And in current modern decades, musicians attempting academic route have to suffer with mindless and regressive "Pop Ensemble" classes which have no academic standards at all, because "The Beatles didn't use music theory or charts yet made great music". wtf...! This is a horrible indicator of future history. It means Taylor Swift will be worshipped as a genius musician in 50 years, which definitely, she is not.
@awfulgoodmovies
@awfulgoodmovies 8 месяцев назад
Folk music has been around for thousands of years. These were untrained composers with simplistic melodies. Much of 'classical music' is taken from folk music....it's what the populace wanted.
@angryjalapeno
@angryjalapeno 3 месяца назад
The Beatles were a boy band. And they played and refined their skills in halls and on the streets for people not preteen girls. They inspired many boys to form their own bands. These musicians used their ears and brains not ineffective reductive theories to compose music. Sure maybe some can benefit for basic music theory but let's not try to pretend music theory is to music as modern physics is to reality.
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