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18. The Medici, Savonarola, and Renaissance Florence 

Bruce Gore
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The explosion of new learning that dominated the Renaissance also brought with it new expressions of corruption in the highest levels of leadership in the church. The powerful voice of the Dominican monk, Girolamo Savonarola, resounded throughout Italy, and especially in Florence, calling people to a deeper commitment to a life of devotion and restraint. His voice was finally cut short, however, when the politics of the day turned against him. His legacy nevertheless persisted for years, and to this day he represents a powerful example of the deep influence of one courageous voice in a time of decline and decay. (www.brucegore.com)

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@tonylearner7636
@tonylearner7636 2 года назад
Your diction, your knowledge, your delivery -- all of that and more ... nothing short of excellence! Thank you for posting this most interesting and educative video!
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 2 года назад
Your kind feedback is deeply appreciated. Thank you!
@tonylearner7636
@tonylearner7636 2 года назад
I love the way the speaker uses his lively hands during his lecture. This is very Italian for him to do so -- and appropriately so at that! After-all, this is a serious discussion on Italian Florence ... (smiling). Of course, my comment is made with respectful affection and admiration for this marvellous lecturer ... loved it!
@pcuser2059
@pcuser2059 4 года назад
We hear so little of Savonarola. Such great information!
@ammiandruhamah6581
@ammiandruhamah6581 10 месяцев назад
Powerful man of God teaching these history lessons!!!!
@dissenter-1632
@dissenter-1632 26 дней назад
He's absolutely clueless
@ammiandruhamah6581
@ammiandruhamah6581 3 дня назад
@@dissenter-1632 ????? Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft! 1 Samuel 15:23
@phaturtha216
@phaturtha216 5 лет назад
Yea the mighty 2 edged sword of the gospel, to cut a swathe through falsehood and unbelief.
@emmaelizabeth251
@emmaelizabeth251 10 лет назад
This is incredibly thorough and knowledgable! I have used your video as a revision source and have found it incredibly helpful. Thank you very much for publishing.
@homersmith43
@homersmith43 6 лет назад
15th century Italy,better defined as autonomous regions,mini states feudalistic often at war with one and other but also mercantile ,sharing ideas in and of art including as you say it ,humanism. really enjoyed that thank you.
@kinawinkelstrahle2431
@kinawinkelstrahle2431 2 года назад
Fantasic! Thank You so much!
@shmortgagebanker
@shmortgagebanker 6 лет назад
Great video. Stayed inside the Ponte Vecchio a few days ago. Love Florence very much.
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 6 лет назад
Yep...pretty much my favorite place in the world!
@quintonbroster2994
@quintonbroster2994 4 года назад
Very good I enjoyed that
@marcomeo5144
@marcomeo5144 8 лет назад
today's sacred music vs renaissance secular music When we compare that ,we can easily see where we are today , we are at lowest point in history in intellect , emotions , body and spirit . That's just one example , there are many others :)
@trailtrs1
@trailtrs1 2 года назад
Without a question it appears that way to us, though I’m not sure that we are really in a worse condition than the dark ages
@matthiasmuller7677
@matthiasmuller7677 Год назад
Savonarola made two bad decisions: 1) doing whatever lead to him being burned at the stake. 2) choosing the profile format instead of portrait when being painted.
@framedheart
@framedheart 7 лет назад
Brilliant as always!
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 7 лет назад
Thank you!
@tommyodonovan3883
@tommyodonovan3883 2 года назад
This guy's great
@Sugarsheila.
@Sugarsheila. 2 года назад
Wasn’t it Botticelli who grew up with the Medici and Michelangelo joined the academy later?
@rebanelson607
@rebanelson607 6 месяцев назад
Yes, it was Botticelli who grew up with the Medici.
@wildeirishpoet
@wildeirishpoet 8 лет назад
Is there any classic studies or biographies on Giovanni de Medici that you would recommend? His meteoric rise raises suspicions to my judgement!
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 8 лет назад
+Kevin Murphy If you check Kenneth Scott Latourette (A History of Christianity) and especially the sources he cites on the career of Giovanni de Medici, I think you'll find helpful information responsive to your questions.
@NicholasFrankovich-o3l
@NicholasFrankovich-o3l 17 дней назад
Great lecture. High-information, lucidly presented. One criticism: Gore uses the term "monk" to identify Catholic clergy of any variety. E.g., he says that Savonarola was a "Dominican monk." There is no such animal. Dominicans are canons regular, a technical term that could confuse listeners. It would be enough to identify Savonarola as a priest who belonged to the religious order that is the Dominicans, the informal name of the Order of Preachers (Ordo Praedicatorum). That flyspeck aside, though, this lecture is excellent. Thank you.
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 17 дней назад
Thanks for clarifying!
@BecketTheHymnist
@BecketTheHymnist 3 года назад
@39:56 Savonarola? More like SAVAGErola.
@haginz
@haginz 9 лет назад
Yes it's good, well done, helpful, thank You
@delphinidin
@delphinidin 3 года назад
"--judgement on YOU, judgment on your COW--" --Savanarola, probably
@andreaoliverio6524
@andreaoliverio6524 5 лет назад
Giovanni di bicci was not born into poverty, his cousin Vieri was a banker in the vatican. where giovanni lerned this work
@tomato6460
@tomato6460 7 месяцев назад
This was super interesting but the repeated mispronunciation of Savonarola grated a lot for me.
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, sorry about that. The error has been pointed out many times (see below). My apologies to Savonarola.
@fionnmacoul
@fionnmacoul 4 года назад
Lorenzo the Magnificent had 2 sons and his adopted nephew. You merely mentioned Piero as an after thought and not as Lorenzo's son and heir.
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 4 года назад
Thanks for the clarification.
@BlueSideUp77
@BlueSideUp77 4 года назад
I would love to use these lectures for homeschooling! Do you have these on DVD I could pay you for use?
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 4 года назад
Please contact me at bruce@brucegore.com. Thanks for your interest!
@deetsy4jesus
@deetsy4jesus 8 лет назад
To Bruce Gore, I watched this a few months ago, but I had to watch it again today. I was watching the series on the Medici (I think it's from PBS) They, of course, painted Savonarola in quite a negative light, and I didn't remember all of what you said about him. I do have a question though, in that series they state that Savonarola refused to give Lorenzo the desired absolution. Do you know if this is true? I just wondered if that was said for dramatic effect of not. Thanks for all you do!
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 8 лет назад
Savanarola appeared at the death bed of Lorenzo, and offered absolution based on Lorenzo meeting three conditions: 1) that he confess strong faith in God's mercy; 2) that he restore ill-gotten wealth or charge his sons to do it; and 3) that he give the Florentines back their liberties. Lorenzo consented to the first two, but reportedly to the third he gave no response. Savanarola withdrew, and Lorenzo died a few hours later.
@deetsy4jesus
@deetsy4jesus 8 лет назад
Thank you for the info.... that is certainly different to what was said in the program that I watched. Thank you so much for making all of these videos, I have learned so much through you! I can't wait for more of the philosophy studies to be posted!
@trailtrs1
@trailtrs1 2 года назад
@@deetsy4jesus Of course you would and should take anything on PBS that deals with Jesus and His followers with a heavy grain of salt.
@kennick7
@kennick7 7 лет назад
Where is that picture from in 10:14? I know Christ
@raymondvanranderaad882
@raymondvanranderaad882 7 лет назад
He keeps saying the name Savonarola wrong, but apart from that very educational!
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 7 лет назад
Yes, I noticed that myself eventually. Embarrassing, but there it is! Thanks for your interest.
@raymondvanranderaad882
@raymondvanranderaad882 7 лет назад
No worries, enjoying your videos very much!
@yaguapiru42
@yaguapiru42 Год назад
Macchiavelo didn't have such power AT ALL. Just a high ranking clerk
@nicobrits5111
@nicobrits5111 8 лет назад
How do we know Mary was 16 years old?
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 8 лет назад
We don't, but marriage of women in their mid-teens was common in ancient Israel, and marriage by the time a young women reached the age of 20 was virtually universal.
@ashthebash66
@ashthebash66 Год назад
Your information is truly well distilled and put over succinctly. However you should check with other sources your pronunciation of some terms, particularly Renaissance and Medici. I know you are American but I believe in the English language the pronunciation is pretty well settled
@claytonbenignus4688
@claytonbenignus4688 6 лет назад
I was surprised by Machiavelli's involvement with Savonarola. The Papacy was making itself look silly. Pope Julius II is to come, giving source material the Erasmian farcical work, "Julius Exclusus".
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 6 лет назад
Though Machiavelli is most famous for 'The Prince,' he favored republican governance, as did Savonarola.
@berniemeyer1643
@berniemeyer1643 3 года назад
So confusing with Pope John XXIII in the 1400s and Pope John XXIII in 1958
@homersmith43
@homersmith43 6 лет назад
sorry i best watch the last one.hehe
@milhouse53
@milhouse53 Год назад
Sa-vo-na-ro-la
@annaperz2919
@annaperz2919 Год назад
Savonarola
@jrbcnchz
@jrbcnchz 2 года назад
Omg it's Savonarola not Savoranola
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 2 года назад
Yes, thank you for joining several others who had pointed out my slip of the tongue. Apologies to the great reformer.
@brandonmass3787
@brandonmass3787 3 года назад
Pretty strange remark to say that a persistent belief in pagan goblins who controlled your fate is what made medieval people yearn for humanism. Sources?
@jamesanonymous2343
@jamesanonymous2343 5 лет назад
missing some vital details, the unspoken rules of class, from the bottom up.
@vincentgaulin6663
@vincentgaulin6663 5 лет назад
Banco=bench
@tonylearner7636
@tonylearner7636 2 года назад
Okay, I have just completed my listening to this entire historical lecture. The "history" part of the lecture I like... I like very much in fact . .. however, at the end, quoting a passage from Revelations as though it were a source of "historical truth" and "logic" and "fact" -- forget it, I'm not biting. The Bible, as with other so-called holy books, is too replete with immoralities, nonsense stories, innumerable contradictions, and wild claims, for me to ever take seriously. So I did not like the preaching at the very end. All that being said, I thought the speaker was utterly interesting and fascinating -- until his closing and highly subjective interpretation of that passage he read from the Book of Revelations. It flies in the face of my Agnosticism and Skepticism.
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