1800HP 3.5L Dart 2JZ Engine Teardown, And What We Learned.

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It's been a real treat being able to test this new era of 2JZ blocks by Dart, especially with such a wild combination like the 96mm stroker setup we used. While the engine was running well, we wanted to take the chance to tear into it and see how the individual parts were holding up. This brought us some valuable insight as to how these parts work with one another, and where theres room to improve.
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@BigBro87 3 месяца назад

These videos don't hit the same without Jay doing them

@hobmedia-houseofboost793 2 месяца назад

10000%

@BuiltSupra1996 2 месяца назад

Jay is doing jay . There's no reason you can't follow him. He's around. Doing what makes him happyn

@mbdulka 3 месяца назад

1800 on an OEM sump and steel rods is nuts ... the fact it didn't grenade is testament of how good that block is. Push it down to 1300 HP and that setup would last forever. Else dry sump.

@francisbeaudry8598 3 месяца назад

and dis is design 30 year a go to

@FELiPES101 3 месяца назад

@@francisbeaudry8598 its a brand new aftermarket block bro

@mbdulka 3 месяца назад

@@francisbeaudry8598 Dart upgraded their design ...

@turbostyler 3 месяца назад

That's exactly what I was thinking. 1300 on e85 all day every day would be a long lasting motor. Also drop the rpm a bit and a smaller turbo would be a stout combo.

@2seep 3 месяца назад

Because it revs high. So you don’t need that much torque to make as much horsepower. So cylinder pressures are lower. Horsepower = torque x rpm/5252.

@RocketRaspeed 3 месяца назад

You've tried the longest stroke. Now try a shorter stroke with aluninum rods, a dry sump, o ring block and see how much HP you can make!

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

I love this :)

@ArthurSperotto 2 месяца назад

@@realstreetperformance New SMX killer? O.O

@TUFFGUY-xp1hk 2 месяца назад

Shorter titanium rods with the same thickness wrist pins as before. Smooth out valve reliefs/ crowns / sharp edges on the tops of the pistons to prevent detonation and improve flow. Balance the pistons and ceramic coat them to keep the heat out. Dry sump oil system, with a larger capacity oil pan if you don't already have one. O ringed or Fire ringed block with the strongest headstuds available for more clamping force and less probability for bolt stretching. Compound twin scroll turbo set up or the newest style precision turbo twin scroll with a shot of nitrous for spool. Paired to a vvti cnc ported flowed and tested head. Water to air intercooler or maybe some sort of interchiller setup.

@rvarsigfusson6163 2 месяца назад

Take me to the moon and let me be along the stars. A way too much but why not!

@tonymiller6255 9 дней назад

You don't o ring 2jz blocks.......you firering them

@TankQ50 2 месяца назад

Don’t wanna hear no b58 comparisons until I see them hit these numbers w/o a billet block.

@EG85 3 месяца назад

STEEL ROD @ 2000+HP Is what we all want to see next!

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

Letsss goooo!

@SupraMane69 3 месяца назад

What happen to Jay? I think you should let us know something!

@rleojeda 3 месяца назад

Definitely not the same

@yordanbatista8983 3 месяца назад

yea, where is Jay

@804MRMAN 3 месяца назад

Isn't Real Streets his company? Maybe he stepped to the side

@Dave-but-why 3 месяца назад

Also, locally in Australia, I have a customer doing 2300+ on steel rods.. Pb 6.85@ 205 rx7 2jz...it does laps

@chuxshed587 3 месяца назад

With a Dart block?

@Dave-but-why 3 месяца назад

@@chuxshed587 no, bullet.

@rvarsigfusson6163 2 месяца назад

What is BARRA doing with original block and then machined new one

@Jeepvanboat 7 дней назад

Get off the pipe buddy 😂😂@@rvarsigfusson6163

@Dr_Xyzt 2 месяца назад

Wow. That thing looks perfect. It's ready for O-rings and receiver grooves. Nice to see some other folks using the green tools.

@civichbc 3 месяца назад

Brother eewww what’s that? on the ryobi 😂

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

lol

@Piotr94L 2 месяца назад

I'm waiting for compound setup and cramming as much boost as possible to test deck strength, sealing properties and main caps, main webbing strength.

@DanielJStahl 3 месяца назад

6:20 Is that heat? Oh those heat marks? -two Marks just talking about marks

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

lol

@Fk8td 3 месяца назад

I’d imagine an aluminum rod would solve the scuffing of the rod bearings due to less weight or at least reduce it. I like Kelford also. Great company.

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

Would definitely help. Yes they're great guys with an awesome line up of parts.

@CP110 2 месяца назад

I want to see a 3.0 block/ dry sump with a setup that pushes a ton of torque early in the rpm range. 8.5 - 9k rpm endurance motor kinda deal.

@MrBlackbutang 3 месяца назад

You still amaze me with the wrench turning skills. A must when building and inspection of mechanical’s platforms wish someone would teach the general engine builder ❤❤❤❤

@mikelmarion 2 месяца назад

Came back for a second comment…I say titanium rods and see how they hold up to higher boost and rpm. Aluminum rods for a race build yea but seeing how high you can go with titanium would be MUCH more informative and cool as far as video content goes. Nobodys really done that. There are TONS of aluminum rod race builds. Let’s move on to something cooler💯😂

@Dave-but-why 2 месяца назад

@@mikelmarion just go back 40 years to F1.. pretty much every turbo engine had ti rods. Bar the hart 415t

@804MRMAN 3 месяца назад

*The comment section is undefeated. They see a 1800 hp block perform well, and the next thing they say is "MO POWAH, I'M NOT SATISFIED"*

@tonymiller6255 2 месяца назад

Half of these people don't understand some of the basics lol 😆

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

More boost baby!

@804MRMAN 2 месяца назад

@@tonymiller6255 You are correct lol

@804MRMAN 2 месяца назад

@@realstreetperformance Lol. I agree. But most people never seen, built, nor drove anything over 15psi of boost

@rvarsigfusson6163 2 месяца назад

@@804MRMAN The newer diesels are using some 17.5 psi

@torentmonkey 3 месяца назад

5:00 hy GRO scopic not hydroscopic .... substance that absorbs water. Same as brake fluid.

@markconte1513 3 месяца назад

Thank you for the correction!

@nismofreak33 3 месяца назад

dw i say it wrong all the time too 😂

@ToprankImporters 2 месяца назад

People say this wrong all the time since people think hydro=water

@curedham2963 2 месяца назад

it looks so simple im impressed

@Final_Boss_Racing 3 месяца назад

Future build could you guys do 90mm crank,aluminum rods,2500 hp RealStreet pistons,stage 5 Mazworx head?

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

Thats a good combo there!

@Final_Boss_Racing 2 месяца назад

@@realstreetperformance that’s what’s going into my car thanks to your guys help!!

@JohnBrown-vn2qw 3 месяца назад

it would be nice to see a 2jz build for maximum low end torque and power. lot of builds are just max top end horsepower and it doesn't come alive until 5,000 rpm. how about a twin scroll, vvt, stroker, air to liquid intercooler?

@gnxtacy 3 месяца назад

That’s what I’m talking about, a real street car!

@JohnBrown-vn2qw 3 месяца назад

@@gnxtacy im saving my pennies. my goal is 600 to 700 rwhp. but i want it to start the party soon as possible

@gabedaxe477 2 месяца назад

Wao what a super amazing block!!

@2006chunming 3 месяца назад

Thank you for these informative videos.

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

Thanks for watching!

@josephschmier3733 3 месяца назад

Just need more and better oiling at that power level. Time to go to 2500hp level to test that block.

@SimanSlivar 2 месяца назад

was kind of surprised when I didn't see you all do fire rings or a drysump for that matter. interesting to see this build

@linchester8464 3 месяца назад

If money is no object. I would def have a built 2JZ from you guys and PRP to build me the RB26 to put them into daily street R34 & Supra.

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

PRP is doing some awesome stuff!

@aaronfox5808 3 месяца назад

What a beautiful example of under hood jewelry. Great build.

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

Thank you!

@b00sted4 Месяц назад

I just think it’s funny yall got your harbour freight ratchets and ryobi power tools working on these 1800hp expensive engines

@RandomlnternetGuy 3 месяца назад

If you guys ever get the chance, please do this for the aftermarket EJ's whenever they come out. I believe Crest CNC and IAG are both developing one. My dream for a destroked EJ25 is slowly coming to life:)

@MING26 3 месяца назад

EJ motors are boat anchors ⚓ , Don't waste your time or money on those piece of junk ... I've blown up several built EJ motors 👎

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

We would love to do some EJ stuff in the future!

@RandomlnternetGuy 2 месяца назад

@MING26 did you miss the part where I said "AFTERMARKET". As in redesigned cast block that addresses all the weak points of the EJ's. That's what I was talking about. EJ's can't handle big power for as long as other platforms. But I'd love to see a breakdown between a Subaru EJ and an IAG/Crest EJ.

@michaelhypefelix 3 месяца назад

Now let's see a max effort aluminum rod 3.2 build 10k rpm and crack that 2000hp mark easy

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

Love that high rpm!

@bxgs300_na 2 месяца назад

1. Wiseco Boostline Rods, Mahle Pistons, King rod and main bearings, OEM crank, PH Oil pump or 2. High RPM, All motor, stroker 2jz with ITBs. full built head, big cams, light weight rods and piston, high compression, knife edge OEM crank, Light weight fly wheel and 6 to 1 equal length headers.

@OctavChelaru 2 месяца назад

So, broke with a lot of torque or a lot of rpm? User choice, I suppose.

@bxgs300_na 2 месяца назад

@@OctavChelaru Both would be nice! You have the torque at any rpm, plus the 9600 rpm. The balance would need to be perfect to have it survive. Having a 6 to1 equal length headers would definitely change the engine nature. Would be an absolute time attack car, in the right light weight chassis.

@OctavChelaru 2 месяца назад

@@bxgs300_na Of course, only the NA build sounds like a dream money no object obsession project since power/weight ratio with the iron block wouldn't be anything to write home about and if you move the powerband so high you won't have much down low and early mid. Stroke is already not rpm friendly at 86mm, stroker crank will only make it harder to spin 9600 reliably, that's a lot. Maybe better off with a lightly modified S54 at a fraction of the price if revs and response are your cup of tea. Would certaintly scream though and get people talking :)

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

We would love to do a Nitro ITB 2JZ !!

@bxgs300_na 2 месяца назад

@@realstreetperformance This would be the perfect build for an NA 2JZ!!

@NdinguAnda 3 месяца назад

These are just awesome, love it

@BjornFSE 3 месяца назад

THANKS FOR SHARING GREAT INFO AND INTEL

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

Glad you liked it!

@jeffreyhinman1397 2 месяца назад

I know this channel is allllll about 2jz, but would you guys bless us with an N54 build since you work on the new BMWs (supras). Lol pleeeease I'm a long time subscriber.

@drjdmtuning4982 3 месяца назад

Tomei baffle in would be cool to see. Also run that same combo on pump gas just to see what it could max out at

@tonymiller6255 2 месяца назад

Pump gason 10:1 doesn't go very far

@SkodaYetiFan96 2 месяца назад

Perhaps keep current stroke but with lighter rods and E85 for a road legal build. Then an intercooler and dry sump.

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

Ligher rods would be good! This setup already runs E85, but One Ethanol R Race E85. We do have an intercooler on this setup, but it is tucked up above rather than in front . Dry Sump for the win!!

@triola_3 3 месяца назад

7:40 they even tuned the oil pan to the music 😁

@darranbrown7504 3 месяца назад

I would like to see a stock crank with CP pistons and manly H Tuff rods ACL bearings and put some boosts to it to see how far it can go

@tonymiller6255 2 месяца назад

Stock crank does funky stuff to the bearings at 1k whp no need to go further

@tonymiller6255 2 месяца назад

Dlc coating si sweet until it flakes off and sandblasts all your bearings lol

@tonymiller6255 2 месяца назад

Dlc coating si sweet until it flakes off and sandblasts all your bearings lol

@darranbrown7504 2 месяца назад

@@tonymiller6255did that happened to you before

@wrighty338 3 месяца назад

Do a 3.0 that rev's to the moon 🚀

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

I like that idea. 10,000 rpm!

@edrannou3914 3 месяца назад

Put Madison, WI on those power tools and when someone says "Get Milwaukee" you can say, "Ehh, close enough."

@DavidGreenberg-c6w 2 месяца назад

2000hp 3.0L crank with steel rods!!

@brianrobards8393 2 месяца назад

Go for the -4 nitrous shot on top of the boost

@BoostWang 2 месяца назад

I'd like to see a 3.0 stroke, but with a VVT-i head to see if it solves some of the wear with the piston speeds with a 3.4 on steel rods.

@YoumomisBeautiful 3 месяца назад

I would like to see a 2j 86mm crank and long rod

@Final_Boss_Racing 3 месяца назад

Great breakdown

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

Thank you so much! We appreciate you watching.

@Final_Boss_Racing 2 месяца назад

@@realstreetperformance wouldn’t miss it!!

@talltrini10 3 месяца назад

This is low key ASMR lol

@stringyGG 2 месяца назад

Milwookie getting it done

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

"A long time ago... In a machine far far away..." Hahaha

@stringyGG 2 месяца назад

@@realstreetperformance 🤣🤣

@gregoryh4601 Месяц назад

RealStreetPer Will You ever build a 3.6l VR6 engine From VW and install the Spacer Plate ? Just May have a Better Engine! Thanks. Keep up the Great Videos. Gory

@-g-lock813 3 месяца назад

i deserve a t shirt or sticker pack lol

@realstreetperformance 3 месяца назад

Next time you stop in, or place an order, ask us for some free goodies, and we'll include a special stickers and trinkets!

@kaloyanyordanov1395 3 месяца назад

Decrease the bore on these custom iron blocks and make the cylinder walls thicker.

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

This one in particular is very large bore for a typical 2jz. So far the cylinders have been doing well at this power level. More wall thickness would be stronger!

@yerielvarela2405 3 месяца назад

Test Presicion Next Gen XPR 9103

@yerielvarela2405 3 месяца назад

R&R Aluminum Rods or BC titanium Rods

@nNataXx 3 месяца назад

With a compound turbo setup 🔥

@CobaltUSMC64 3 месяца назад

You should try Line2Line coating on the pistons.

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

I think that could help, but the root of the wear starts with the piston coming so far down below the cylinder.

@justinmiller6497 Месяц назад

What are your thoughts on a destroked crank with max bore on the dart block and let this be a rev happy engine

@guillermodavila9397 2 месяца назад

Test it with VP M5 that’s what is used from the fastest 2jz

@kainpepe3595 3 месяца назад

Is Jay no longer with Real St.?

@yerielvarela2405 3 месяца назад

And Geo?

@dennismelville7532 3 месяца назад

@yerielvarela2405 Isn't he over with the Real Tactical shop?

@kainpepe3595 3 месяца назад

@@7275vrt yeah, but i wonder he is not active anymore in building engine and in the real st. Website he is not in the picture 🤔🤔

@Bill-flatplanefool 3 месяца назад

Jay does what he wants…

@boosted2.4_sky 3 месяца назад

Of course.. but he's at a point where he doesn't need to be there for every single thing..he can do other things with his employees or partners taking bigger roles....

@Alfonso-mh1np 2 месяца назад

Please do coated piston skirts

@ver.motorsports 2 месяца назад

I would like to know how the oil film got compromised, if its just because of the high load on the piston due to the power you guys are making, or it has something to do the the bearing clearance, do you need to go higher or lower on the clearances?

@Dave-but-why 2 месяца назад

@@ver.motorsports to me it looks like the big end housing is a noodle..lots of movement evident at the parting line. Remember we saw the same ware pattern in that land speed engine, with the same rods.

@Sir.VicsMasher 3 месяца назад

Would be cool if Dart offered a 6 bolt block and head package.

@francisbeaudry8598 3 месяца назад

just amazing ....question you using stock toy toy oil filter ??

@mikelmarion 3 месяца назад

Do titanium rods!!!!

@raindeergames6104 3 месяца назад

Just out of interest? Do you guys do per cylinder fuel trim on a setup like this?

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

Great question, yes we do! Being able to monitor things like EGTs make cylinder trimming relatively easy . We highly recommend applying that to any race program.

@deezy9595 2 месяца назад

A bit late to the party but please 1.5jz and add some hot sauce.

@johnnyjeffers4764 3 месяца назад

Where’s Jay at? He should be the one doing this

@cagr4249 3 месяца назад

I am just a "guest-watcher" of this channel; very nice engine! But for what reason is it running with that long stroke?

@somerandoonline5852 3 месяца назад

im guessing abuse the block as much as possible to see how it reacts

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

This block came to us already at its "max" bore of 88mm. We decided to also pair it with the "max" stroke possible to try and make a large 2JZ engine. The result was this 3.5L. Next, I think we'll mix it up :)

@markmahurin8891 3 месяца назад

How much would it roughly be to buy this exact build?👀 I don't seriously race. But I do like to have a project car to stay busy and out of trouble

@zeezee8415 2 месяца назад

Let me know if you ever wanted to throw the parts away i got a skip bin Thanks,

@-g-lock813 3 месяца назад

yooooooooooooooooooo

@colinlloyd1543 13 дней назад

10 to1, ethanol, 60 plus steel rods, wet toy oiling, mad.

@slfrules1 3 месяца назад

Y'all frick the tools, there's a compound turbo SR that needs roller rockers. What other priorities?

@gordowg1wg145 3 месяца назад

Cool, were the camshaft lobes also DLC treated?

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

Not the cams, these are off the shelf non coated BC cams. Working really well!

@john_p 3 месяца назад

why not the BC0303 280/11.48mm cams?

@connora5387 3 месяца назад

Do you say compromised oil film because of the wet sump? Is the headgasket just a MLS with copper spray on it?

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

That was likely part of the reason the oil film became compromised. Yes MLS with copper spray.

@jellybeansupra 3 месяца назад

Dry sump it and lets see it do over 2k hp

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

Time to let it eat!

@JoeCamel-eb1nm 2 месяца назад

Hey man I want one how much would it cost me

@indyrock8148 Месяц назад

What oit are you running?

@raindeergames6104 3 месяца назад

What do you guys think of the line2line coating for piston skirts?

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

We've done that on a few engines that needed to close down on P2W clearance and they've worked really well.

@superconscious. 3 месяца назад

💪

@loganamurray64 3 месяца назад

Never knew ppl used 2ZZ buckets in 2Js

@Bondangoed 3 месяца назад

Yeah previously the only drop in when doing a shimless conversion was 2zz...

@loganamurray64 3 месяца назад

@@Bondangoed Did they use the 2ZZ's shim-under-bucket (valve stem cap) design too?

@jakeastwood6939 3 месяца назад

@@loganamurray64 the 2ZZ buckets are a single piece with the shim built into the underside of the bucket.

@Bondangoed 3 месяца назад

@@loganamurray64 1zz also, before these engines 1zz 2zz came about we used a bucket from a yamaha fzr bike but it required some machining

@infinitexsound6087 3 месяца назад

compound turbo

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

Love it

@ACommenterOnYouTube 3 месяца назад

Mark looks like he is in his 60's with that beard ...

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

Gandalf beard coming soon.

@ACommenterOnYouTube 2 месяца назад

@@realstreetperformance 🤣

@6969razvan 3 месяца назад

Ryobi tools? Sorry just had to bring that up lol

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

Lol, still works well

@ToprankImporters 2 месяца назад

@@realstreetperformancecheap, easy to find, batteries at most Home Improvement stores. I like the Ryobi stuff.

@sanramondrift 2 месяца назад

Hygroscopic. Not hydroscopic ;) what a motor. 💪😈 fuckin dope.

@ICTPerformance268 2 месяца назад

🇦🇬 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️. 🙇🏾‍♂️

@Dave-but-why 3 месяца назад

Cool. Now put it back together, and sit it at 800 HP for 5 mins straight... Proper endurance test. Assuming the dyno has the cooling capacity to di it

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

I like the way that sounds. Lets do it!

@Dave-but-why 2 месяца назад

@@realstreetperformance if they managed to do a full 24 hr race, group C , at MORE power, should be a walk in the park🤌. Plus, who doesn't like watching HP. Endurance tests are where it's at, "real horsepower".. 👌

@boosted2.4_sky 3 месяца назад

1:30... Yeah...pretty sure everyone knows ONLY Milwaukee and Snap-on can loosen nuts and bolts... it's common knowledge

@MrCornholios 3 месяца назад

The eagle needs a hawk thua and it gets like new. 🤣

@realstreetperformance 2 месяца назад

hahahah

@AdmissionGaming 3 месяца назад

Is there a reason to use a 2jz in drag racing over a v8? The v8s hold up to drag racing better dont they?

@ACommenterOnYouTube 3 месяца назад

Because the 2JZ can do 2000 hp ... How many V8's can do 2000 hp ???

@corystansbury 3 месяца назад

@@ACommenterOnRU-vid Pretty much all of them can? My answer would be "because they want to" Seriously, there are more than 10 engine families where horsepower is largely a wallet-based affair. Build what you like.

@ACommenterOnYouTube 3 месяца назад

@@corystansbury All of them "can" ... i have yet to see any.

@corystansbury 3 месяца назад

@@ACommenterOnRU-vid You have not seen any V8s make 2000 HP? Really?

@ACommenterOnYouTube 3 месяца назад

@@corystansbury NO .... not in person at all ever. Frankly never seen any over 1000 hp in person, all are in the 800 ish hp area.

@GTRliffe 3 месяца назад

i don't understand why everyone in the rb world needs to convert cam cap fasteners to aftermarket studs when these guys use oem-like fasteners???

@jasons147gta3 3 месяца назад

10.37 --> "given that we were using a steal rod and heavy pin and heavy piston on a compromised oil film all at high engine speed this falls in line with what we expected". lol = we were expecting bearing wear wtf

@M_F754 3 месяца назад

I'd like to see Dart make a B58 block.

@gnxtacy 3 месяца назад

I’d like to see a 4.0L ford barra block from dart!

@brandonlittle6444 3 месяца назад

*inhale nose whistle* Who is making heads?

@ammoking6099 3 месяца назад

Aluminum rods diamond pistons.

@ammoking6099 2 месяца назад

Or titanium rods

@FastPaull 3 месяца назад

Milwaukee meat glazer brand loyalists are so annoying. Imagine constantly arguing for a brand that doesn't know you or give a shit about you.

@tonymiller6255 2 месяца назад

1800 hp on an oem timing belt. Theres no point in aftermarket

@stevelee5724 3 месяца назад

The music ruined your show ! It's fvcked ! Just don't put music on the show please ! It's disastrous... I had to stop watching.

@shutupplay7502 3 месяца назад

12:32 what rod ratio are you guys seeing with this bore/stroke and rod length? Awesome content.

@PistonAvatarGuy 3 месяца назад

1.43? Stock rod is 142, minus 5 mm for a 96 mm stroker crank. Pretty short. I don't know if the wrist pin is in the stock location, sometimes they move them up on the piston to get a longer rod.

@shutupplay7502 3 месяца назад

@@PistonAvatarGuy yeah it looked pretty belowed the oil rings, they used the honda rod journal also, was wondering because they mention the scuffing in the lower piston skirts. thank you brother.

@nNataXx 3 месяца назад

96mm stroke and 142mm rod length : Rod ratio = 1.479 Rod angle = 71.3° Mean piston speed @ 8100 rpm = 25.92 m/s or 5102 fpm

@PistonAvatarGuy 3 месяца назад

@@nNataXx They maintain the stock rod length?

@nNataXx 3 месяца назад

@@PistonAvatarGuy Yep, 142mm rod is the OE length, you can see the specs on the Brian Crower website