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1859 Vinegar Pie (Hint: It's NOT From The Great Depression) - Old Cookbook Show
Today we look at vinegar pie - this is something that is most often called a Great Depression Recipe, or Great Depression Pie; but it is from long before the Great Depression.
VINEGAR PIE. Take a gill of cider or vinegar, one quart of water, a tea-cup of molasses. or sugar enough to make it sweet,
stir in half a dozen spoonfuls of four, put in on the fire and let it boil.
Bake with two crusts, or put the top crust on in strips if it is liked better.
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@BDylanHollis
@BDylanHollis Год назад
It's unfortunate how reality tussles with sensationalism. I've regrettably danced with the issue often. Seems many simply like the idea that: "the depression was so bad they had to use VINEGAR in their pies!" - Never does the true (and oft more interesting) history much justice. Thank you for the informative video.
@AD-kv9kj
@AD-kv9kj Год назад
Still gross though. So many old recipes seemed so desperate to just use up random ingredients in everything. "Eeer, we gotta shedload of vinegar still...let's just convince everyone to use it up in pies!"
@shirleyannconfer9651
@shirleyannconfer9651 Год назад
I’m impressed that one of the content creators that I watch regularly is also a fan of this RU-vid channel!
@jmbkpo
@jmbkpo Год назад
​​@@AD-kv9kj it's called cooking, grow up
@asianshell
@asianshell Год назад
@@shirleyannconfer9651 yes, same!
@artistpw
@artistpw Год назад
The people may have not had access to much. No modern grocery stores. In WWII, they also had to deal with rationing so didn't have access to some foods.
@nicolelasher
@nicolelasher Год назад
As I understand from some old folks in my family, vinegar pie liquid is basically a base to hold fruit scraps and stale bread, or whatever neutral tasting stuff you have around the kitchen that needs getting rid of before it spoils. I've even heard people putting in leftover potatoes, carrots, and anything that has some chew. Mash or chop it up, and nobody really knows what was in the pie. The vinegar kind of binds all the smells and flavors together. One would definitely also use some sort of allspice or cinnamon mixture as well.
@Klwjjj
@Klwjjj 6 месяцев назад
I remember my grandma making something similar and she would use a potato. As you say - no one knows the difference. 😊
@amyeagleton697
@amyeagleton697 Год назад
My mom and grandma would take those leftover pie crust pieces, put cinnamon sugar on them, and bake them. So tasty, and it kept the kids from begging for the actual pie, lol
@violetwithey4618
@violetwithey4618 Год назад
Mine too. They spread it lightly with butter, margarine,Grandma called it Oleo. Then the cinnamon and sugar.
@annethomson4920
@annethomson4920 Год назад
​​@@violetwithey4618 we had ours with Jam , custard , cream or ice cream or maybe all 4
@crackersmom2679
@crackersmom2679 Год назад
Yep! I did that when my kids were at home, now I do that for my grandchildren. I loved it and so do they!
@kathrynmaharaj9265
@kathrynmaharaj9265 Год назад
Here in Quebec they are called "pet des soeurs" which means "Nuns Farts"
@terramarini6880
@terramarini6880 Год назад
My mom did that too, butter, cinnamon sugar, rolled up like a little crescent roll. I did the same for my kids/husband.
@josephdeveau3584
@josephdeveau3584 Год назад
This show has become a standard part of my Sunday morning routine: walk and coffee, grab a montreal style bagel, watch the Old Cookbook Show while eating my bagel, and then hit the gym.
@derekh989
@derekh989 Год назад
Same, I make coffee and then check to see if Glen's video is up yet.
@mattjohnson6227
@mattjohnson6227 Год назад
Same. Coffee and the old cookbook show are my Sunday mornings.
@SeventhSwell
@SeventhSwell Год назад
Kinda the same except I honestly don't have a Sunday routine outside of watching this channel. This channel is my Sunday routine.
@virginiaf.5764
@virginiaf.5764 Год назад
Make a Sunday (more involved) breakfast, perk the coffee, sit down and watch the Old Cookbook Show. No gym, but I can go out on my porch, look at the 14,000 ft. mountain I live near, and fondly remember when I could hike it.
@NyxaGrayheart
@NyxaGrayheart Год назад
Meanwhile I wake up in the middle of the afternoon (sundays are my sleep in day) roll out of bed and have my coffee while watching.
@sharonbargercarnes4414
@sharonbargercarnes4414 Год назад
Take out the vinegar, leave the molasses, and it’s closer to Shoofly Pie, which is another Pennsylvania Dutch recipe.
@ryanmitchell4426
@ryanmitchell4426 Год назад
I had a similar thought, especially since it came from a Lancaster paper.
@mariegarside8830
@mariegarside8830 Год назад
Shoofly pie reminds me of my grandmother.
@kathleensaenz4717
@kathleensaenz4717 Год назад
Love shoofly pie ❤❤❤❤❤
@ginya15
@ginya15 Год назад
In late 50s, my Mom would threaten us “ eat your dinner or I’ll make a vinegar pie for your dinner” until my sister Dotty made one and it really wasn’t that bad.
@hoovesandpaws
@hoovesandpaws Год назад
Hi Glenn...My Mamaw and Mom used to make this pie and also Water Pie alot. I learned to make my own vinegars from them. So...I use my homemade vinegars which are various flavors ... apple, banana, blackberry, etc. Using one of these flavored vinegars really enhances this pie. And a dab of my homemade complimentary extract really makes a better pie!
@michaelreid8857
@michaelreid8857 Год назад
Would you please share with me, how to make Raspberry Vinegar? Thanks
@elizabethbednar6338
@elizabethbednar6338 Год назад
Banana vinegar sounds so odd to me
@ange4739
@ange4739 Год назад
Really ? Would you share your recipes & how to ?
@hoovesandpaws
@hoovesandpaws Год назад
@@busimagen Yes and I still do. Right along with pickles and syrup and relish.
@smallfootprint2961
@smallfootprint2961 Год назад
@@busimagen ... My mom made watermelon rind pickles. They were good. Like a bread and butter pickle.
@zaynamoore
@zaynamoore Год назад
Vinegar Pie is referenced in The Little House on the Prairie series which were based on family life circa 1870...so quite some time before the Depression era.
@essaboselin5252
@essaboselin5252 Год назад
That's the first time I heard of it as well. Never once considered it to be a Depression Era recipe.
@juliao8428
@juliao8428 Год назад
That was where I first heard of it as well.
@shelleyhender8537
@shelleyhender8537 Год назад
Bless you Sheri - I loved “Little House on the Prairie”…and still do years later! I feel like a “dying breed”, as I rarely hear of anyone mention this show and “Anne of Green Gables”! I bought the series this past year and started watching an episode from time to time. Hope you are having an awesome day!☺
@krazycatz
@krazycatz Год назад
YES!!! That’s where I first heard about it too!!!
@heleneminger
@heleneminger Год назад
I have been reading this series to my children and they are loving it
@n1gak
@n1gak Год назад
first thing that popped into my mind: In the mid-80s, my sister found a recipe in a magazine for a vinegar pie, attributed to settlers on the Oregon Trail (magazine was called "Old West" or something like that). We made it for a family meal, my younger brother and I loved it, my father hated it. "Vinegar pie" became a term in our family for "something that seemed like a good idea, but did not meet expectactions" (Going on to watch the rest of the video now)
@argie498189
@argie498189 Год назад
My mom made vinegar pie in autumn. She rolled out several thin layers of crust. She put in some filling into the bottom crust, then a layer of crust, more filling, more crust, not sure how many layers, but then the top crust, and she took an ice pick and poked holes all over the top, clear through to the bottom. She brushed the top with water and sprinkled sugar lightly all over the top. The layers of crust puffed up, and the pie came out higher than the plate it was in. So fragrant, so delicious.
@Abpgsetiloincawdyubkolmbrs
@Abpgsetiloincawdyubkolmbrs Год назад
As this pie hails from Pennsylvania, it’s cousins in Waterloo county would have likely been made with apple molasses. Apple cider boiled down till thick, as you would maple syrup.
@andielangemeyer
@andielangemeyer Год назад
I love how thorough you are Glen! You must love research. I probably wouldn't be watching cooking videos without your awesome history lessons and commentary 😊
@hatjodelka
@hatjodelka Год назад
My first impression from the UK, when seeing the title was "Vinegar pie? What on earth is that?" I have never heard of it before. The main thrifty recipes come from the second world war when rationing was strict. Sugar and molasses (black treacle here) were very rare then as well as butter. Perhaps Lord Woolton pie is the equivalent.
@mitchellgehman4605
@mitchellgehman4605 Год назад
As a resident of Lancaster, I feel compelled to mention that Lancaster is pronounced "Lanc-ister", like there is an "i" instead of an "a". Cool recipe, love to see some representation of my corner of the world
@Amelia.A.T.
@Amelia.A.T. Год назад
My sister and I were watching, and we both remembered our family vinegar pie. We use my great-grandmother's recipe, which is likely a late nineteenth century recipe (my mother's mother's mother used to make it for my grandmother when she was a girl, and grandma was born in 1901). It had an egg and butter in it, but the egg is not separated. My sister said that our mom said it was a Penn Dutch recipe, which makes sense because our great-grandmother and grandmother were born in rural PA. On a similar note, I'm going to be making a raisin pie that my grandmother used to make for me (back in the sixties) which I still have the recipe for in my great-grandmother's handwriting. 🙂 I'm looking forward to that! Love your show, Glenn, and especially when you dig into the history of the recipes on your Sunday videos!
@margaretbedwell3211
@margaretbedwell3211 Год назад
Amelia, My grandmother also made raisin pie (often) when I was growing up. I did not like because she made it with raisins that had seeds in it. And we did have seedless raisins back in those days. Why she made it with those raisin I will never know. LOL.
@jcboom6894
@jcboom6894 Год назад
Raining pie was my Dad's favorite pie
@itzel1735
@itzel1735 Год назад
Interesting. Reminds me of the seven sweets and seven sours from the Pennsylvania Dutch tradition. I would have cooled the filling before putting it in the crust, but your experiment seems to have worked.
@quintessenceSL
@quintessenceSL Год назад
Something I've witnessed with events I have first-hand knowledge of is the re-writing of history (intentional or not) and dissemination through the web from people whose research/opinions are maybe one degree removed from wikipedia. It has impressed upon me the need to track down original sources (and even that is going to be a bit fraught) and nullius in verba.
@derekh989
@derekh989 Год назад
I'd be interested in an episode explaining how you research old recipes across different newspapers and time periods. Are there searchable databases online? How do you look through your old cookbooks for a specific recipe if you're not sure it will be in any of them?
@SeventhSwell
@SeventhSwell Год назад
Oh, that would be neat. I do enjoy a good behind the scenes video, like the tour of the kitchen set one. Maybe I've missed it, this channel has been around a long time before I found it during Covid, but if there isn't a video just showcasing the cookbook collection I'd love to see that too.
@virginiaf.5764
@virginiaf.5764 Год назад
There are searchable newspaper databases online. I think some require paid. subscriptions.
@derekh989
@derekh989 Год назад
@Virginia F. Yes. But that doesn't help me understand the process of using them to track down recipes from different regions through different centuries and decades.
@johnhpalmer6098
@johnhpalmer6098 Год назад
I bet Glen spends lots of time looking in the stacks at the public library looking at actual books and of course, many stacks will contain many old newspapers, bound and can find the recipes that way, as well as online and making copies of certain parts of pages as needed.
@sshirleyks
@sshirleyks 11 месяцев назад
I love Julie’s face when she heard vinegar pie. 🤣
@JoeAuerbach
@JoeAuerbach Год назад
The first thing that pops into my head when you say vinegar pie is a sweet tart sort of sugar based evaporation pie common enough here in Ohio. Checking the recipe .... yeah, that's it. It's a good one.
@eivujeienin
@eivujeienin Год назад
The first place I heard about vinegar pie was in _Come an' Get It_ by Ramon Adams. It's a history of the chuck wagon and cattle roundup trail cooks. Sadly the book doesn't give very clear recipes, but it calls for sugar in this pie.
@Jaeler9
@Jaeler9 Год назад
Can I suggest doing a series of “mock” pies? Cause I stumbled across a mock apple pie (quite a few family members are allergic to apple and I wanted to share the deliciousness that is apple pie without making them sick) that is made from zucchini and I have no clue when it is from. It was in a home canning chat group when I found it. But it is exceeding delicious and if I don’t study the “fruit” inside I can’t tell the difference in taste.
@terebrown2892
@terebrown2892 Год назад
Have you ever heard of the mock apple pie made using Ritz crackers? You won't believe it till you've tried it! And, yes Glen, a series of mock pies, or anything else, would be greatly appreciated. ps, our local American Legion Auxillary cookbook had a recipe for "mock pineapple" that started with zucchini
@joantrotter3005
@joantrotter3005 Год назад
I think originally zucchini pie is an old Italian tradition?
@michaelreid8857
@michaelreid8857 Год назад
I would recommend using a good apple pie recipe and substitute the apples for pears. This keeps it fruit and pears have similar flavour to apples!
@LilyoftheValeyrising
@LilyoftheValeyrising Год назад
I’ve heard of a mock apple pie made from whole ritz crackers. I heard about it in early ‘90’s.
@crackersmom2679
@crackersmom2679 Год назад
I've had them made out of Ritz crackers, but not zucchini. Sounds good.
@petervanderwaart1138
@petervanderwaart1138 Год назад
If you don't want to spray the molasses measuring cup, you could put a little of the hot liquid from the pan, and swirl it around.
@RSidneyB
@RSidneyB Год назад
Yup, thought the same thing. I often do that; e.g., getting the last bit of tomato paste out of a can .
@terebrown2892
@terebrown2892 Год назад
Don't know if you (rsidneyb) meant put the hot liquid in before measuring molasses to "preheat" it to make it slide out or after to rinse it out and get the last of it but I do both. I often fill the glass with hot water before anything hard to get out, (honey, peanut butter, shortening, etc) but using hot liquid from the recipe would make even more sense, thanks for that idea. And, of course, being Grammy Sarrett's favorite granddaughter, we don't waste anything, so we always rinse the jars and cans out, preferably with part of the recipe. I even throw browned ground beef or mushrooms in the spaghetti sauce jar and shake it around to clean it out without watering down the sauce.
@jrkorman
@jrkorman Год назад
I was sitting there talking to my screen "Glen, you've got a pan of hot water!!!"
@t_y8274
@t_y8274 Год назад
Or if measuring by weight, you can use the negative on the scale (by measuring the molasses jar)
@jamesmcinnis208
@jamesmcinnis208 Год назад
"No one really knows what a teacup is."
@EastSider48215
@EastSider48215 Год назад
Vinegar Pie is mentioned in two of Laura Ingalls Wilder’s Little House books: Farmer Boy and Little Town on the Prairie. So they were common in the American East and Midwest in the 1870’s.
@Markephillips77
@Markephillips77 Год назад
As a resident of St. Cloud, MN I get giddy every time our city is mentioned on your channel! Thanks for doing all of this footwork to mix two of my passions: cooking and history! Super cool stuff!
@KyzylReap
@KyzylReap Год назад
Hello from down river in Winona!
@cindywalker1252
@cindywalker1252 Год назад
I live in St Cloud too!!
@rebeccaturner5503
@rebeccaturner5503 Год назад
I always thought it was using vinegar instead of lemon juice because it was an acid and you would have it ready to hand. If you had different vinegars I am thinking you would get some real interesting differences in flavor. .
@throttle4593
@throttle4593 Год назад
My grandmother, who was born in 1903 used to make that pie, and taught my mom. I remember it was one of my favorites when I was a little girl.
@helenedesmarais8697
@helenedesmarais8697 Год назад
I could guess that it started early in Britan with the sugar trade , a thickener and a bit of acid to balance. It propagated to the colonized Americas and got regionnalized. Here, in Québec ( previously Nouvelle-France way back), it got personnalized into " Tarte à la Farlouche" with the same type base with optionnal addition of raisins ( or not ).
@YeshuaKingMessiah
@YeshuaKingMessiah Год назад
Yes! I’ve heard of it with raisins too! I knew it was missing SUMthing
@LadyElaineLovegood
@LadyElaineLovegood Год назад
I grew up in York which is just down the road from Lancaster. Sweet & sour is a popular flavor combination around there so maybe that's the reason for this pie, but when the ingredients also give cider as an option it could be just be a desert option for when fresh fruit isn't available.
@joanng8601
@joanng8601 Год назад
The 70 teacups made me laugh, that anyone would think they are same size- love your channel, thank you
@virginiaf.5764
@virginiaf.5764 Год назад
I'll bet homemade cider vinegar was used in that time period. Commercial vinegar was around then, but maybe not everywhere.
@alysoffoxdale
@alysoffoxdale Год назад
I'm amused that the molasses flavor is pulling you away from the concept of apple pie, because our family apple pie recipe includes a big dollop of molasses as the "secret ingredient"!
@lenalyles2712
@lenalyles2712 Год назад
This was one of my Grandfather's favorite pies. Sweets we're a treat when we was little and this pie was easy and enjoyed at our table.
@ApeSkit01
@ApeSkit01 Год назад
Julie had the same reaction when Glen said Vinegar Pie as I did when reading it the video title. I'm glad it turned out better than it sounds.
@TheDriftwoodlover
@TheDriftwoodlover 3 месяца назад
Having had an elderly friend (would be 94 if still alive in 2024) who grew up on a farm in the US before they received government subsidies, I learned how lean the end of winter/early spring months were for them. Most of what they ate was what they grew and preserved (and their family wasn’t particularly large). By spring, all or most of the apples would have been consumed so this recipe would have been a way to stretch what was available to make a dessert. People forget how much of the world was agrarian then and how people were creative with what they had to feed families and still provide some variety and some treats. We, in this time, do not understand fully what it was like. She described week after week of her mother canning vegetables and fruit to prep for winter and preserve every bit of what their farm yielded.
@Waldenpunk
@Waldenpunk Год назад
One of my favorite pies!
@TheIronDuke9
@TheIronDuke9 Год назад
Something about your reaction of "weird, oh so weird" at the first taste really had me laughing, especially as I have no idea how this would taste. It's about what I imagine I would say were I to try it
@KnitterWho
@KnitterWho Год назад
my first thought was logging. I remember visiting Hartwick Pines State Park in Michigan and there was a recipe for Vinegar Pie in one of the displays.
@KKnits
@KKnits Год назад
I remember Laura Ingalls Wilder in the Little House books talking about how vinegar pie was one of the pies served to the threshers in the later 1800’s.
@murlthomas2243
@murlthomas2243 Год назад
It looks good, but I like molasses a lot. Grandma made molasses bread that I wish I had the recipe for, and it started my fascination for using molasses in other things. I will have to try this. Thank you Glen!
@VHangout
@VHangout Год назад
I miss my Mom...first thing I thought was because she made vinegar pie for me. It was my favorite. The last one I had was about 5 years before she died. Fond memories.
@sherrienale9974
@sherrienale9974 Год назад
I enjoy you're show...Unfortunately, that pie I will pass on...Have a great week friend..
@ThankfulQue
@ThankfulQue Год назад
I was going to write to you and see if you would make one of these! My mom made them and they are delicious! We were told they were “mock apple.” It was like a cobbler when she made them. The vinegar was really mellow. Thanks!
@darrellbedford4857
@darrellbedford4857 Год назад
This is the only cooking show I subscribe too. I may watch other show on the occasion if the show something interesting but Glenn And Friends is my go to show that I look forward to every episode. I am with DerekOnPurpose who asked about seeing a show on how you do the research on the recipes. Can we have one Glenn?
@maryrowe1504
@maryrowe1504 Год назад
My grandpa told me his father’s favorite desserts were vinegar and chocolate pie. He was born in 1920 so this would have been during the depression. For years I thought he was BSing me and then I found the recipe
@glendaweiss5500
@glendaweiss5500 Год назад
You sent my Mom and I on a hunt for her Grandmother’s recipe. Very similar except she used white sugar and added a teaspoon of cinnamon.
@Klwjjj
@Klwjjj 6 месяцев назад
My grandma’s recipe includes 3/4 tablespoon of cinnamon and 1/4 nutmeg. Otherwise exactly the same.
@stevewhitcher6719
@stevewhitcher6719 Год назад
When Julie started eating it she had a sort of pained look, and then she kept going back to eat more so she must have liked it!
@jemtebelle
@jemtebelle Год назад
If that was made as a thin layer on a baking sheet, it would probably look delicious. Like those saltines covered in caramel.
@darnstewart
@darnstewart Год назад
I'd like to see you do a Treacle Tart on the Old Cookbook Show someday.
@michaelreid8857
@michaelreid8857 Год назад
I was about to post, that this had some resemblance to that!
@elmerkilred159
@elmerkilred159 Год назад
I suppose one should probably ask the questions; What were the qualities, and varieties of the the ingredients that were used in this 1859 recipe? Was the molasses sulfured, unsulfured, dark, light, blackstrap, sorghum, sugar beet, cane, clover, maple syrup... ? Was the flour A/P, 00, whole wheat. barley or rye mixed... ? Vinegar- wine, apple cider, distilled, malt, cane...? Each combination of just these three ingredients could make a complete different flavor for each pie made. This episode just popped up in my feed today. I haven't seen an episode since the Cream Soda, and Cola experiments. I thought I was subscribed, but for some reason I was not. I am now. I have a lot of videos to watch now!
@annehall2591
@annehall2591 Год назад
Interesting that you guys had such different reactions. Don't know if I would make this pie, but it was definitely interesting to watch!
@Rigel_Chiokis
@Rigel_Chiokis Год назад
I do like the history lessons that come with your Old Cookbook show.
@michaelbratton3319
@michaelbratton3319 Год назад
Even wayback then people still had an understanding of the alchemy of ingredients to take a few bits of nothingness and combine them into an edible pie?🤔stay safe from a amazed BIGMICK IN THE UK 🇬🇧 WITHOUT SNOW 🤜🤛👍
@321southtube
@321southtube Год назад
My first impression?...it was exactly what you're impression was after the first bite. The lemon does sound like an interesting fix. When you announced on the "validity" of information on the internet, I could hear the collective sound of jaws dropping from everyone under 30. I might just try this. Thanks so much. I truly appreciate the work behind the scenes as much as the final product. Always intriguing, interesting, and entertaining. Thanks so much
@lindafletcher1628
@lindafletcher1628 Год назад
When you asked about vinegar pie and what was your first thought -- mine was raisin pie which is a pie I loved and havent had since childhood. Love your videos...a fan from down the road in Whitby
@danadnauseam
@danadnauseam Год назад
Sounds like an ancestor of shoofly pie, which makes sense for the first recipe you found being from that part of Pennsylvania.
@neeldani7450
@neeldani7450 Месяц назад
This is authentic vinegar pie recipe. The other recipes have lots of eggs and very little vinegar and they are essentially custard filling.
@sanachanto
@sanachanto Год назад
Johnny Appleseed and apple cider vinegar was immediately came to mind for me.
@dougthatcher3521
@dougthatcher3521 Год назад
I've Never seen Julie look so thoughtful!!
@heleneminger
@heleneminger Год назад
I think in one of the Little House on the Prairie books Ma made a similar recipe to this with green pumpkin. I bet using this as a base for any fruit would be tasty.
@JacquieG
@JacquieG Год назад
This looks similar to my husband's favorite pie. It's called chess pie and sadly we no longer have his preferred recipe as his mom passed before she shared it
@JCKay
@JCKay Год назад
Glen made "Chess Pie" before ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6yxZG64sid8.html
@sennest
@sennest Год назад
Glen has a chess pie on the channel in the archives 🎉
@jjudy5869
@jjudy5869 Год назад
Why do mothers/grandmothers do that? Our love for them is not dependent on what they cook for us.
@kathya739
@kathya739 Год назад
Yes, I thought the same as a resemblance to Chess pie.
@austincromwell
@austincromwell Год назад
Reminds me of treacle tart. I think the addition of eggs would give it more body.
@nycbearff
@nycbearff Год назад
During the Great Depression, my grandma had a frugal friend who made mock vinegar pie.
@ambsquared
@ambsquared Год назад
I have teacups from 6 to 12 oz. My 12oz ones some might call coffee mugs, but they came in a tea set with teapot, creamer, sugar bowl, and 4 cups. No saucers were in the set. I like that you weave the lattice. It takes a little longer to set up, but I think they look a lot better that way.
@janicek6399
@janicek6399 Год назад
First thing I thought of was Grandma Jones 😁 my mother's mother. A fabulous cook and pie maker. I think she used sorghum She was from Southern Missouri.
@WC0125
@WC0125 Год назад
Just a thought but pies appear to have really changed in the late 1920s because of the explosion in electric refrigeration for making, setting, and keeping your pie. Prior to this you used what, a Pie Safe. This vinegar pie would last forever without refrigeration so it would be perfect for a pie safe.
@critterjon4061
@critterjon4061 Год назад
Been hoping you would do a video on this recipe
@candygirl7586
@candygirl7586 Год назад
I have been making Vinegar Pie for my children, who are now adults, and having it myself since I was a very young child in the southern US. The ingredients my family used were only eggs, butter, sugar/molasses, 1T vinegar, and vanilla... bottom crust only. A Chess Pie included flour...
@Iceland874
@Iceland874 Год назад
My grandma made it. My brothers thought it sounded horrible but I liked everything Grandma made. The only time I’ve ever baked in my 66 years other than cookies when my 3 sons were little, was rhubarb pie in Home Economics in 8th grade. It was the grossest thing I could have ever been forced to make. Enjoyed the video.
@eabt
@eabt Год назад
I associate vinegar pie with rural late winter cooking. Like sugar pie and butter tarts, it's a way of making a high-calorie food (like a fruit pie) when all the summer fruit has been used up. I didn't even know that it was associated with the Great Depression!
@FranceG.Ouellette
@FranceG.Ouellette Год назад
This pie is a tradition in my family (I am from Quebec) and we make it using white vinegar, brown sugar, water, a bit of flour and butter. Maybe it is an acquired taste, but we all love it.
@figmo397
@figmo397 Год назад
This pie reminds me of Shoo-Fly Pie, another Pennsylvania Dutch staple. Given that the cookbook is from Lancaster, PA, it makes sense, as that's "Amish Country."
@Vickiib
@Vickiib Год назад
I've made a vinegar pie for decades! I grew up eating it and I have a copy of my great grandmother's recipe for it. She died in 1897!
@janborkowski6659
@janborkowski6659 6 месяцев назад
Please tell us your grandmother’s recipe. How did it differ from this one?
@sadiedesimone7460
@sadiedesimone7460 Год назад
I am 83. My mom made vinegar pie when I was a child. I loved it! One day I came into the kitchen and exclaimed, “Oh boy! I smell vinegar pie!” My mom laughed because my face was just above her pot of boiling vinegar-water and sugar looking for that delicious pie.
@carolwilliams7052
@carolwilliams7052 Год назад
Hmmm - - the "sweetness" balance kinda begs the question as to why there isn't just a pinch of salt.
@aliceewing9417
@aliceewing9417 Год назад
First thing that comes to mind is a book I read last week that was based in the 1800s where a man told his wife that he would leave her if she ever made him vinegar pie haha. After finishing this video, I was surprised by the recipe. In the novel I referenced above, the characters used the term vinegar pie to refer to a fruit pie that used vinegar instead of lemon juice. I wonder where the author got that from.
@julieschneider5973
@julieschneider5973 Год назад
The rest of this newspaper page is certainly making for interesting reading! I’d love to see the whole page so I could get the entirety of the stories!
@vdubboy85225
@vdubboy85225 Год назад
Interesting. Wonder what a balsamic vinegar would do with the molasses?
@evelynwaugh4053
@evelynwaugh4053 Год назад
I was also wondering about that. But the recipe did say sugar or molasses. If molasses was used, perhaps a boysenberry or similar would be more hearty and compatible. I think the lighter ones such as pear might be too delicate for molasses.
@maddyf8398
@maddyf8398 Год назад
My first thought was Pennsylvania Dutch/Amish, especially after the newspaper source was from Lancaster, PA, the heart of Amish country, and the famous Shoo-fly pie, which I am not a fan of.
@wmschooley1234
@wmschooley1234 Год назад
For what it’s worth, several years ago on the Civil War Talk forum Receipts of the Blue & Gray Sweet Baked Goods there was a discussion thread on Vinegar Pie. Respectfully, W.S.
@observer-effect
@observer-effect Год назад
Well, my first reaction was "Vinegar pie is an actual real life thing? It's not the basis for a sarcastic joke......" Cue confused look and head scratch with right index finger.
@virginiaf.5764
@virginiaf.5764 Год назад
Other interesting recipes on that page: potato pudding using 3/4 lb. of sugar!, and spruce beer. So many interesting recipes in those old cookbooks.
@bdavis7801
@bdavis7801 Год назад
Thank you for this! I haven't heard of it before. I've actually have a couple of different vinegars that I'm excited to try this with! 😆
@OrganisedPauper
@OrganisedPauper Год назад
The first thing that came to my mind was what on earth is that? I've never heard of it, probably because I live in the UK.
@christinewillis6508
@christinewillis6508 Год назад
Just take a lil bit of the warm vinegar water and slosh it in the glass gets it all out... I do these kinda things all the time...
@Iceland874
@Iceland874 Год назад
Fascinating video. You could add lemon juice,a pinch of cayenne, cinnamon, and ginger and call it Detox Diet Pie.
@patcole-home3152
@patcole-home3152 Год назад
Yuck! That was my first thought. I am interested in seeing both of your reaction.
@justmefolks1863
@justmefolks1863 Год назад
Interesting. I tried one of those older recipes about 25 years ago. It was a mock apple pie made mostly with saltines. It was hilarious because my kids at the time 2 teens and 2 preteens, all tasted it with eyes closed and thought it really was apple pie. I only made it once because the pan was a nightmare to clean....LOL. I really love that you showed all the different time periods also.
@williamkeehn3637
@williamkeehn3637 Год назад
I been watching your videos for awhile I have noticed that a lot of recipes don't have a temperature in the cook book my question is since most people used wood cooking stove/ovens and my grandmother talked about using them it was guess work or just knowing what temp to use Cowboy Kent Rollins cooks with wood and cast iron
@julejustjule
@julejustjule Год назад
Julie's face when Glen said vinegar pie 😂 exactly mirrored my face.
@jjudy5869
@jjudy5869 Год назад
Mine, too!
@Allurade
@Allurade Год назад
Right? You could just hear the enthusiasm melt away when she found out what kind of pie it was
@superstar5123
@superstar5123 Год назад
assumption is the instinct of the willfully ignorant
@Rouverius
@Rouverius Год назад
So, a thickened 17th century switchel inside a pie crust.
@douglasfur3808
@douglasfur3808 Год назад
Fascinating, not something I would think edible. I wonder where this would stand on the pie family tree along with shoo-fly pie, (a Pennsylvania Dutch recipe to match Lancaster PA) and treacle tarts.
@intuitivemedium3814
@intuitivemedium3814 Год назад
Im so overjoyed I found Glenn and Friends again! I left FB behind over a year ago and missed this show! Hey Jules!!👋
@patriciafrancis9134
@patriciafrancis9134 Год назад
I thought, yum I hope it's tart like a good lemon tart. I also recall vinegar pie in Colonial times.
@essaboselin5252
@essaboselin5252 Год назад
Another old timey combination of vinegar and molasses was to make a lemonade substitute in case you couldn't get or afford lemons.
@gisman_2000
@gisman_2000 Год назад
I made Vinegar pie about 10 years ago just to see what it was like. It was good.
@robertoliver6980
@robertoliver6980 Год назад
I was thinking some sort of Apple pie. Like late winter, the apples you stored in fall are questionable. The cider you pressed is turned. You make something with what is on hand.
@CreeSweetSage61
@CreeSweetSage61 Год назад
Interesting pie. I'm not a fan of molasses, so this would not be for me. Can you actually make the mock apple pie you were talking about? Have a great week!
@leegerstmann
@leegerstmann Год назад
The first thing I thought of was some sort of sweet pie but with vinegar in it. It seemed kind of like an extreme version of what buttermilk pie or sour cream pie might be but vinegar sounded like it would need tons of sugar to make it work.
@robviousobviously5757
@robviousobviously5757 Год назад
next time, pour some of the hor liquid into the measuring cup to "rinse" the molasses out... extra step, but low effort step.
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