Whoever created the character of Elsa wrote the most amazing personality and dialog for a young woman in a western. So philosophical. So individualistic. So passionate. Great casting and acting too. Truly engaging drama. So rare these days.
I don't think Elsa will die. I hope Sam finds out and takes her to the Hot Springs in the Mountains where John Dutton went to heal after his gun shots. John Dutton told Kayce ,that the Indians "have been coming to these springs for thousands of years" to heal. John pointed out that it could be the "Mud" or the water he didn't know but he believed it would help him heal. This is what I am hoping saves Elsa. Can't wait for the Finale!
@@rgyoho Comanches never would eat the Heart of the buffalo. They ate and used every part, but historians have verified that the heart was never eaten or desecrated. Spirit of the animal and all that.
Just remember yelling out OH NO when I remembered that dress! My dad passed 6 yrs ago & he would have absolutely loved 1883 & Yellowstone. He would have laughed at me for crying so hard while hiding his own tears lol!
Seems like if Elsa would've just told mad Lakota number one the same story she told mad Lakota number two, the whole dirty broad-head through the liver scene could have been avoided. Chances are if she lives, she will get "married-up" at least one more time this season anyway! She got over skinny, long-haired cowboy way too quick.
Level 9. The character of Elsa was outstanding. The dialog, the delivery and the presentation was simply outstanding. She beautifully portrayed a tough and sassy young woman.
It would ruin the show imo, it's one of the few westerns that aren't just from a middle age man shoot em up point of view. I think we will be left with a cliff hanger.
Elsa's had a death wish from the get-go. What about the snake-bit Germans? They were really starting to get their shit together. Volunteering to be the decoys to draw out the commancheros like that. And the little gal setting out there with nothing but a pistol that was apt to misfire. Then she whacks the sassy bandit when he started getting fresh w/her. That gal had some grit! Now for all we know they're swelled up dying or dead in one of those wagons. And that cook--he started the whole mess. He was a leaky vessel from the start, running off on his own during the tornado drill. He got what he had coming. They're all better off w/out his f-bomb mouth!
Being that I'm a western author and already familiar with the West, I am surprised that so many of you thought that the Oregon Trail was peopled with puppies, rainbows, and unicorns. It was rough and brutal time for women and men. Any realistic portrayal of this time must show it that way. It was events such as these that led to the coining of the term, "rugged individualists." Those of you who are troubled by Elsa's fate, can you imagine how truly SHOCKED you would be if Taylor Sheridan hadn't already teased this outcome in Episode One? Without that tease, many of you would now be taking up pitchchforks to slay the brilliant writer. I think he knew this would be your reaction, so Sheridan tried to prepare you for it. Despite the fact that they chose to use Elsa as the narrator, this show was NEVER, EVER about her. It was about James, his hardships and losses, and the iron will it took to establish the Yellowstone Ranch legacy. This show was always about James and his son, John, the little boy who would be the grandfather of John Dutton. In fact, this show was always more about Margaret that it was about Elsa. James and Margaret Dutton are troubled souls, each of then still deeply scarred by what they each saw in the War Between the States. It is this stubborn idea of clinging to a dream, making their own child, Elsa's loss have some kind of meaning, that caused them to settle the ranch and build around her grave. As much as James thought he could go West to escape the pain and loss he experienced in Tennessee, he is increasingly faced with the harsh reality that death and hardships are not limited by geography. I actually think Margaret ALWAYS did realize that her husband could never successfully find peace by running away from his memories and home. I believe she understands that hardship dwells whereever people choose to make their home. The Grim Reaper has no boundaries. Margaret undertook this journey as a result of her love for James. When this is over, perhaps she may always resent him a little bit for making this journey and how it eventually costs her daughter's life. If James and Margaret were damaged before, that damage will be even greater now. Today's John Dutton has heard these old family stories of loss; he has experienced the loss of a son in his own life. That is why he fights so hard to hold onto the land, because they have worked, sweat, bled, died, and been buried there. To those of us, like me, who have seen my own dad tragically killed on our land, I understand why they fight so bitterly to hold onto the land. That property has more value to us than millions of dolllars. I have not changed my opinion. 1883 is magnificent writing and acting. I would rate it as perhaps the greatest Western to ever be on television.
You commented that the show was never about Elsa but the whole season has only been about her. It would have been nice if there had been some development of the other characters.
I may be wrong but I disagree. Could it be Elsa lives. Has a child. If we go back to Season 3 in Yellowstone Kaycee talks to the wolf. I'm part Lakota. Wolves are connected to us. Some of us have a spiritual connection with animals. Yes they could have been raised to respect the Native American culture but could it be more? Elsa is our narrator and she is telling the story. Just my opinion but because we have survived many years..I cant see Taylor not bringing Elsa further through the Dutton history. Or showing how we used medicine from the earth to heal her. We are very spiritual. Dont give up on Elsa yet.
I've heard some complain about the narration during the episode during the season. I believe it's her journal and is being read possibly by a combination of her Father, Mother and descendant. And that this season was the journey she had... She is (or was, still don't know for certain at time of writing) one of my favorite characters. (Along with Thomas (LaMonica Garrett) Shea (Sam Elliot (GOAT) James (Tim McGraw) and Margaret (Faith Hill) I hope Isabel May gets nominated for an award, she definitely holds her own with these heavy hitters!!!
I am 77 and have been a movie buff all of my life from watching Tom Mix and Lash Larue movies at a cinema in England, as a wee lad, to present-day How the West Was Won. I am ecstatic with the wonderful world of cinema that Taylor Sheridan is creating. I did not think that at this late stage of my life, I would have something to be looking forward to weekly. Since I owned a horse ranch on the Oregon Coast, many years ago, and trained Reiners, Working Cow, and Cutting Horses, I can appreciate the beautiful true portrayal of these competitive working Horses. Mr. Sheridan, you have made this old man a happy old man.
It is hard to believe they wrote her off the show so quick. She is an amazing actress. Her acting job should win her an award. I like you knew it was coming when they came upon the camp site of where the tribe of Native Americans family were killed. I hope they find that Hot Spring for her as some one pointed out.
Amazing acting? C'mon. Her narration sounded like a Hillary Clinton stump speech. Awful, just awful and filled with fake emotion. I was waiting for Elsa to say she handed in all her emails!
I just saw him say kids also in the video that featured his new coming shows. I thought that was interesting. However, in that interview he didn't say any names of the children
Noah Le Gros had an incredible moment of acting... the mournful sounds that came out of him were really visceral for me. ....when he was trying to bury the woman. My grandfather was born in Custer County, Montana in 1891. Horse ranchers. He had 8 brothers and a sister born there. Grandmother also.... but I'm a coastie and far removed from it. He was kind, salt of the earth, and we keep his purple heart from WWI. He took care of Harry Truman's horse in the Alsace Lorraine in France. ... and ran messages on horseback from the front to the brass. Mom was born there too 1929.... there's something to that genuinity of spirit from Montana.
10. Not in tears, in shock. This show covers so much history in such a way that you don't realize it's a work of fiction. It's a beautiful way to highlight the terrible tragedies many many pioneers experienced crossing the plains. I've read my pioneer ancestors biographies and Autobiographies and this "series" brings them all to life.
Every single cast member needs to win every award they deserve!! I have never liked westerns but my grandson asked me to watch it so I did and I'm so happy that I did!!
I don't know I could be very, very wrong but I don't think Elsa is going to die. I saw somewhere that there's going to be a season two, so far we've only heard from her. If she dies they're going to have to find another narrator for the series, and I'm not sure how well that would go over with the fans. Remember when John and Kayce were sitting in the hot springs and John said something about people coming there for centuries for healing? Maybe, just maybe there's some truth to that and somehow Elsa ends up in the water. This could be all my wishful thinking because I really enjoy the series with Elsa in it and I don't want her to die.
@@kjo3532 Yeah, and they named the park for her too. /s Oh wait. The park was already there. And the river has that name. Gee, a ranch in the Yellowstone Valley. Nah, that can't be the reason it was named the Yellowstone Ranch. If they were going to name the ranch after her, they would've named it the Yellowhair Ranch.
It doesn't seem like Sheridan would have this dialogue that "she is going to die" and it really does happen. I am hoping that the line was there to make us worry, maybe. Or soften the shock if she does die. (because we were warned..) Another thing that worries me is why would he create this much loved character just to kill her the first year? Surely she is not quitting the show. And I hope he doesn't plan to cast her in 6666 and 1932. Gonna be a long week folks...
To kill Elsa off at this point in the game is a hard shot to take. She’s a strength to the entire camp. Her family as well as the travelers see a strength in her that takes them from day to day.
Questions: why did Lakota set up camp right next to the Oregon trail? Do Lakota wear face paint when hunting? Did all their food burn up in Cookie's wagon? That the Lakotan understood Comanche was a stretch, as the 2 tribes did not commonly interact from what I've read. Do the Lakota leave their dead, or don't they check to see if some are still alive? The wagon train's damn good at forming a circle in 2 minutes! As far as the story goes, I loved it.
The Commanche Language was related to the Shoshoni Language. The Shoshoni and the Lakota interacted A LOT. Since Tokola Black Elk's character is clearly a leader, its not unreasonable to think he would recognixe the words of her name.
I think that is why they name Paradise Valley "Yellowstone", after Elsa, like her Comanche name, "Lightning with Yellow Hair". I think they find gold in Paradise Valley. This is how they are able to purchase the land. They bury her body somewhere secret in the Valley, in her Honor and the sacrifice she made on this journey. Also, for the love they have for Elsa. I think Taylor Sheridan gave us a clue (a cookie). This happens in Season 4. Where James Dutton makes a cameo appearance. Where he confronts the Natives of that land that return and want to bury their dying Father, in secret, somewhere on the land, that he was born in. They want to bury him somewhere in secret, just like James did. He honors their request, because he honored his daughter the same way but for her sacrifice and her love for this beautiful, holy land. He even honors the natives with a steer he feeds them with. I think a tradition begins that only the Dutton's know where Elsa is secretly burial and that is why they promise never to sell the land. In her honor and in the greatest sacrifice an ancestral Dutton has ever made trying to find this promised land.
I agree with all of your comment...I think she might be buried up at the rock, where John took his Dad when he was dying? When Kayce and John were lounging in the hot springs, (season 4) John tells Kayce that (not a direct quote) that everything happens at the rock.
Yellowstone National park was already a designated place by the time the Dutton’s arrive in Montana in 1883 so It’s very improbable that your assumption about how they named their property is correct.
Joe Rodriguez: Find gold? Purchase the land from who? Yellowstone National Park was already established as a National Park by March 1, 1872 and the Indians who lived in the area had been calling it Yellowstone for generations because of the yellow color (probably sulphur) of the stones there! Not because of gold! As for the land in Paradise Valley, Montana, the land was was probably free to homesteaders (160 acres) if they made improvements on it for five years. Montana didn’t become a state until 1889. So, the Duttons would have already made those improvements by the time Montana became a state. The Indians who treated Elsa and directed James Dutton to Paradise Valley, said it was their land and he could live there for 7 generations and then he would need to return it to them. Another clue that in the Yellowstone series, the Duttons may not be able to keep their land.
Love ALL of Taylor Sheridan’s work! With one exception...I live in the South. Born in SC, lived in TN, GA, and lived in SC for over 45 years. I have visited AL, LA and MS. I have NEVER heard that southern “accent” that Elsa has. Hell, even the Indians speak better English! Oh, and Elsa’s husband was not Cherokee...Sam is Comanche.
I was born and raised in the Deep South and Elsa's "accent" is one of the worst and so annoying to listen to the monologues. Hollywood rarely gets it right with the southern accent.
I'm not convinced she dies. We haven't seen Graham Greene yet. They are currently a 4-6 hour wagon ride from Fort Caspar. Fort Caspar is over 400 miles from The Yellowstone. Thats a minimum of 6 weeks. If Elsa has Sepsis, no way she lingers in a hard ride for that long. Which means, either she doesn't die for some reason, or James breaks his vow and keeps going after she dies. Which one of those two scenarios is most like a Taylor Sheridan story? Maybe Spotted Eagle and his people have the herbs and knowledge to clean out the wound. I'm hoping anyway. On your scale, I was an 8.5. I have watched every episode within an hour of it dropping in the middle of the night. And then re watch it again to make sure I didn't miss anything. I had to force myself to rewatch E9 and almost cried.
You saved me from looking up the geography. I think (hope) Elsa survives. The Lakota thought there was a good chance she would live if they got her to the fort. So did James. Maybe the Indians intervene. Word will travel to Sam for sure. As vicious as the Indians may seem, they do have respect for strength such as Elsa showed. Is it too far fetched that Sam and/or the Lakota could come to her rescue? Sam did say that he could find her wherever they settled. He seemed to be very familiar with the land. 5 more days until the next episode ... how are we going to wait a whole year for the next season??
I believe we are in good hands, Taylor Sheridan is a force to reckon with when it comes to story telling. I feel every character is filled out perfectly and Ive enjoyed following each character life and death. Elsa is not dead .... yet..
The ending just ate my heart and spit it out. They make you fall in love with these characters then the ending. I'm a 38 year old and never have I felt so much emotion watching a show. I'm sad and mad and don't see how it could go on any further.
Yes it was very hard to watch Elsa's reign slowly ending. 1883 is emotionally brutal for the most part. But she represented hope like a bird against the wind. Isabel May should definitely be acknowledged as an amazing actor. Golden Globe, Oscar, Emmy...she deserves all 3.
1883 together with original Yellowstone is a perfect example of American art at its best, serious things shown or written about in a way that it is breathtakingly interesting to watch or read. Many good pieces of art with a serious content were spoiled by making them snobbishly boring to follow. How many other series I can start watching from the beginning, the moment they have finished? None...except for Yellowstone and 1883.
I agree. TV now days is just repetitive same O, same O...How many NCIS's does there need to be in this lifetime? Where are the original writers anymore? And the remakes of many movies and shows proves we have no talented writers anymore until now. Taylor Sheridan.
I was seriously disliking her after the last two episodes (forgot about her boyfriend too quick and was very self absorbed like Monica in Yellowstone) but even I want her to live now.
Tough, this was a 9. I have been having an ongoing memory of this episode all darn week. It is such a well written series. Can’t believe how rough and real these episodes are in the way that Taylor Sheridan creates.
I love how realistic this series is the reality of the trail is little to know one made it and innocent people died. It truly is a heart reanching master piece also the horse man ship is wonderful adds so much realism.
I don’t think this is the end for Elsa to much to explain here but there are theories going around that involve the healing springs in Yellowstone abs the crow Indians leading them there Hopefully will see next week
Not sure we will get resolution that quickly. I'm surprised this wasn't the season finale ... Sheridan style cliff hanger. I'm hoping against hope that Elsa lives. There have been some very good story lines expressed.
@@wildlizzard1 This was reportedly the original season finale. The end of the season was reworked to add a a 10th episode. Another reason I have a hunch that Elsa lives. The network, or even Sheridan himself, decided that they needed to rework the ending.
A story twist would be interesting like she ended up making it through that, but then maybe later on in Montana, after going to Oregon, she has Sam's baby and passes that way, which is just as sad but I feel like she shouldn't be gone yet. It's only one season 😭
If Isobel May doesn’t win a best actor award for 1883 it discredits all award shows. If there has been a better acting performance in the last ten years, I haven’t seen it. Shee deserves every award going - exceptional performance.
I'm about a 15 (About to start a riot.) I can't imagine the show w/o Elsa or Isabella May. I'm hoping Sheridan will spare us this one wish. Spencer could be an adopted son or someone like Rip. Maybe the Duttons have always had a soft spot for strays. I'll say it again and again. Tim McGraw is an underrated actor. He's impressed me since Friday night lights movie.
Here’s the thing, Elsa is the narrator and when you commit to a narrator it is never a good idea to take them out, it would piss a lot of people off. I think Elsa will die but not from this or this season. They said they would make their home wherever she passed at, they are going to Oregon but their family ends up in Yellowstone. Just a thought.
Just finished watching 1883. What an OUTSTANDING AND AWESOME show. Fantastic writing. Elsa had my heart in Episode 1. Her character was/is a breath of fresh air.. I love how she sees the world. Long story short, I will have to rate a 9. Tears, tissues and applause at the ending. I mourned but at the same time celebrated her life. One of the BEST shows I have seen in many years. Bound to stay with me for the remainder of my life.
I had an eerie feeling watching Elsa dying while her father pulled her next to him leaning against that tree. I flashed back to John Dutton pulling dead son, Lee, onto his lap, leaning against that big tree and talked with him about where he would be buried. And a bird showed up and JD nodded OK, here it is. Birds figure into Dutton storyline a few times, don't they? Remember bird showing up on front porch and Beth acknowledged bird's 'wisdom in flying away before she shot it?
This is a great show! Tim, Faith and Isabel are the perfect actors for this show! Isabel’s narration for phenomenal! I have seen most , if not all of Tim’s movies and by far this is his best performance (but I did love him in The Blind Side…)!! I hope Elsa doesn’t die in the finale, her character is awesome! I definitely see where Beth gets her spunk. Kudos to Taylor Sheridan on his writing!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤️❤️❤️
My son (31) died in late 2021. These last two episodes hit me hard. I could see my son slipping away. Though I wasn't there when he diied. It's a hard, hard thing.
@@desireealexander5922 I’m a widower I lost my late wife and my son four years ago in a car accident it was so painful losing both family Same Day but I have to be strong 💪 and move on with life.
The very best show I’ve ever watched… I’ve seen it 3 times now and I must admit the “1883 Theme music” might as well have been called “Elsa’s Theme”… as I tear up at the very sound of it… So we’ll done!!!!! ♥️😭😔
BRING back 1883. IT is one of the best western out there. My family loves the character's, we cant wait till the next episode. AS I read all the comments the public loved it!!!!! Hats off to the crew and TAYLOR SHERIDAN.
This show broke me! I’ve never seen Yellowstone or been into westerns, but I’ve been playing Red Dead Redemption so this show peeked my interest. Wtf! I was not prepared for this. What an amazing show. I knew the attack was coming but I always assumed Elsa would power through it. I keep thinking if she had been in her normal clothes and not that damn dress maybe they would have halted the attack, or not attacked at all since she was so far ahead of the wagon train. Also do we think Sam is dead? If that’s literally heaven, I’m thinking he probably died not long after Elsa left since he was waiting for her. God what a good show. Damn!
I cried harder than I did for Ennis and He was my favorite actor. #10!!!Ennis and Elsa had better win BIG awards. But everyone is so fabulous! How does anyone pick? Every episode is wow. Sam is the most good looking man and Elsa fell! My favorite part of episode 9 was when she talked Comanche to the leader of the Indians who were attacking! He like stopped! I think he was shocked that she was so brave…he asked her name and BAM! Lightening with the Yellow Hair made him laugh! The Indians stopped! I loved “Black Elk!” I kept thinking he was going to say I know your husband and we are good friends!
My emotions were at 10. I cried a lot during this episode I still hold out hope that Elsa will somehow live. How it’s possible I don’t know, but the fact that she is such a prominent character and is the series narrator makes me thing Taylor may find a way to save her.
Oh Billy, love your commentary. Had me reliving the entire episode which I’ve only seen twice btw because I know how it will effect me. Def. a 10 on the snot filled tissues-ometer. I’ve been looking for that god dammed dress all season and I, like you, sat up in my seat saying “oh no “ this is it. When Elsa says to her dad that the pain is so much worse on the second day but what happens the day after that and he says “ that’s a mystery “, broke my heart. As always you’re doing good work here, great job ❤️🇦🇺
Thank you Barbara, I really appreciate your kind words. This show is certainly a journey and I'm so glad we've built such a community through YT and the podcast to talk about it. ~ bd
I think episode 10 will be a cliff-hanger with Elsa not dying by the end of episode 10, but barely hanging on. Paradise Valley is still quite a journey from the Fort.
About 450 miles from North Yellowstone Montana to Casper Wyoming, average wagon train covered 15-20 miles per day, taking the low average of 15 due to terrain that is 30 days, even at just over 20 if they were pushing it like James does that is still 3 weeks at least.
Exactly what I told my wife last night. Taylor Sheridan is a dirty bastard and loves leaving you in the dark. Just like the end of season 3 of Yellowstone. He’s a monster
I really hate that we just skipped over that absolutely heartbreaking but amazing scene with Colton and Shea. Actually, out of all the shock and heartbreak this episode, that moment actually got me tearing up the most! Another really big classic Western throwback! Colton starts to bury the scalped immigrant woman with a dinner plate, which is straight out of the mini-series Lonesome Dove. Sherrif July Johnson comes back to his camp after trying to thwart a group of Commanches to discover that his deputy, 7-year-old son, and a young girl that they rescued, were all killed by a Commanche Warrior. When Gus McCrae (played by Robert Duvall) discovers Sherrif Johnson the next day, he's trying to dig a grave in the dirt with a dinner plate next to the 3 bodies. Johnson tells McCrae that his decision to leave them killed them and McCrae tries to tell him that sometimes we just have to make tough decisions and bad things happen...paraphrasing obviously, but I found it extremely similar to what Shea was trying to say to Colton.
Please don't kill off Elsa, she's so wonderful, the whole team of 1883 have produced one of the best shows that have come along in years. I love everything about 1883, describing the history of the Duttons. We love Yellowstone, and now, we love 1883. So well done!👍
Else is going to live. I think the arrow slipped right under the liver right beside the gallbladder and missed The stomach and large intestine. I think it was a miracle. 🇺🇸1st😎
10 - devastated! As a parent, I could feel the pain of Elsa's parents. I don't want her to die but unfortunately, I think it has to happen for the story. I'll be so upset. I don't know what it would be like without her. She's amazing.
When I watch this show I want it to not end. It's the best Western ever made. I can't say enough about it. It's just awesome. The writing is superb. Finally a good TV show
I cried and cried for Elsa and then Shea on the beach talking to his wife, smiling at the ocean.?Then that little hummingbird flies up to him and you know it’s Elsa as she told him she’d see him at the beach. 😭😭Then you hear a gun and he falls over. I balled and squalled. My oh my.
at 6:39 you mention "Sam her Cherokee husband" but I think he was supposed to be a Comanche warrior . I figure it could be a slip of the tongue Or I remembered wrong, which is highly possible. But thanks for the info. Really glad I stubbled on to your channel. A fan of 1883 also.
9. I love her. ❤️ she reminds me of being 18. Just that beautiful blissful ignorance of how hard life truly is, and how she is care free and strong. Life causes us to become hardened and dream less. To be honest though? When she tells Sam she loves him? I cried so hard. When she finally dies, I'm sure I'll cry. But nothing beats that scene as far as crying...yet.
