Let's see how this freshly restored Winchester 1895 shoots. We'll also talk about some issues with 1895's in 30-06 that prompted Winchester to discontinue the cartridge in this model.
A gorgeous Winchester 1895 in 30-06 Mark. Your attention to detail and knowledge will allow this beautiful piece of history to be enjoyed for many years to come. Thanks for sharing! Happy Trails back at ya, and good luck hunting!!
...just foundf some new manufacture (Hornady HSM, cowboy load 165 gr) ammo at the West Palm Beach show last week...looking forward to finally shooting my 1895 - made ca 1916...
great clip, thanks. I got lots of information. Last week I got a Miroku Winch 95 in 30-06 for shooting. Always wanted an original one but my buddy, a gun smith told me about problems wth modern loading pressures. I couldn't believe untill you told the same. greetings from Germany....
Super job Mark! I know how much work goes into fitting wood stocks and polishing barrels. Years ago, I built a TC Hawken from a kit. Lots of work. That 95 sure is purdy!
Just came across two 1895's in my local Gunshop today. The first a military type of carbine in honest to goodness 30-03 Springfield. the other a slim barreled sporter in .35-Winchester, which was a wildcat 30-40-Krag with a .358 caliber bullet. As to bluing, with Winchester there was a period that the receivers and barrel steels were too high of Nickel and would revert to the white. About 1929/30 or so Winchester switched to what they called "Winchester Proof-Steel". This metal would take any bluing method. The problem was the metal make-up, not the bluing. The Du-Lite method is just faster (typically 30-minutes) and far and away cheaper to produce than the long and labor-intensive Rust-blue method. I have an 1894 Winchester (.32 Win Special) the receiver was high nickel and made in 1928 and wouldn't hold bluing. At that time a new company "Turnbull Restoration Company" was advertising in Shotgun News. I sent them the rifle and had the receiver and other parts color cased and rust blued the barrel/magazine tube in the original Winchester method. It to this day still is looking as new as when I received it back. The color casing changes the molecular make-up of the metal at the surface but leaves the under laying metal intact.
Great job Mark! I just started a deep cleaning project on a 3rd year of production 10 Gauge Win 1887. It was covered in a light but hard layer of rust. After removing the rust, there were no major pits. That's good news. Looks good for a 132 year old shotgun. I will lube it up real good and put it aside until I can get to it. Still finishing up my current project.
Couple of questions you will likely be able to answer. One.. I have never heard of a nickel plated Winchester. In the movie Bone Tomahawk there is what looks like a 92 full nickel plate. I know a few south American companies made nickel plate clone 92's Did Winchester ever offer such? Also I have a Remington 81 in .300 Savage. What a great gun! accurate and powerful and not all that heavy. I would love to see you do something on one. The .300 is really the father of the .308 and I think a very useful caliber even today.
Back in 2017 I stumbled up on a pristine '95 in .405 WCF. The rifle had been purchased, by the gun store owner, from an estate auction along with several other long guns several days prior. I was, of course, really, really interested in the old rifle and some serous "dickering" ensued. Sadly, from my point of view at least, it came down to an even steven trade of the '95 and a much-cherished Savage '99 in .250-3000. Since I love me some old Savage lever guns, I just could not make the trade. Sometimes, when I take one of my '99s deer hunting, I think about that Model '95 and how it would have performed in the close cover areas I occasionally hunt with my old .30-30s and trusty .35 Remington lever actions. Excellent video as usual! Keep 'em comin'!
Very nice work and video. Did you show the rifle in its before condition in another video? How unusual to hear traffic noise in one of your videos. The last time I was on that road, I think I was the only one on it when I was there. You must have felt like you were being invaded. ha ha
Would 06 m 1 garand load's as you are sure to know are at lower pressure help with this issue. Just thinking how to fix a problem. Enjoy your channel. Blue steel and wood love it.
As I mentioned, according to Keith and Whelen, any loads in the 42-43K PSI range can be safely fired in an 1895 without creating headspace issues. Winchester recommends pressures for the 1895 not exceed 47,500 PSI. The info I've found indicates that M1 ball ammo produces 50,000 PSI. They are lower than modern day 30-06, but I wouldn't regularly use them in an original 1895.
Could you talk about the early model 1895s that used a leaf spring for the magazine? I’ve not Seen or heard much about these. I have one and I think it was made around 1905. It’s in 30-06. Thanks.
The leaf springs were used for the magazines until the 1895 take-downs were introduced. That leaf spring protruding out under the forend wasn't compatible with a takedown assembly, so they were replaced with an internal coil spring in all the 1895's going forward. The leaf spring are certainly much easier to deal with when working on '95's.
Mark, just curious as to how many folks you have helping you do these old restorations? With so many hours invested, it has to be more than just you working in the shop?
I would think 150 fmj 30-06 designed for garands would be suitably light enough in pressures? Beautiful rifle very nice work. Why doesn't the 7.62x54R have the same issues in the 1895?
I believe they would have the same issues. I believe that if you were to regularly shoot modern 7.62x54r cartridges loaded to max C.I.P. pressures (56,500 psi), you would end up with the same issues. The well-used Russian muskets I've fired usually show some signs of excess headspace with slightly backed out primers. It's quite likely that most have only been fired with WW1 era ammo that almost certainly produced less pressure than today's ammo.
@@thecinnabar8442 Hey Mark, I have been reading some of Townsend Whelen's work, and he wrote that in his experience the original Winchester 1895 were generally not accurate rifles. In his book "Ballistics" he wrote that groups of 4.5 to 7 inches at 100 yards were typical, and the Winchester company even told him that accuracy was indeed problematic for this model. Have you found this to be true? Thanks
@@HaNsWiDjAjA I'm sure I've shot a much greater variety of 1895's than the good colonel Whelen, including all 9 calibers. Some group well, some don't. Overall, I'd say they have comparable accuracy to the other Winchester levergun models if the shooter has the patience to develop accurate loads. I've killed multiple deer and antelope at more than 150 yards with 1895's and wouldn't even attempt those shots with a rifle that would only group 5"-7" at 100 yards.
@@thecinnabar8442 I see. Might the good colonel's problem be due to the quality of ammunition he had access to? I know that factory ammunition quality has improved enormously since his time, but I still find it hard to believe that it made an otherwise good rifle only capable of shooting 5-7 MOA.
There's quite a bit of it on GunBroker, but most prices are pretty steep. If you watch closely, you can occasionally get some at a reasonable price. There is a seller on Ammoseek.com selling some at $99 a box. Remington used to make runs of it from time to time and the price would come down quite a bit. I don't know if they will again since the company sold. Best of luck
What about 1895s in 7.62x54R? Are there many (any) in the US? I know they existed but my historical knowledge is almost zero. Please enlighten me. Edit: Thank you for taking the time to produce and edit these videos. I pray that some time you'll break even or even turn a profit with ScrewTube.
There were 293,000 Russian contract 1895 muskets produced, more than 2/3rds of the total production of 1895's. There's no way to know how many have returned to the United States. Based on their scarcity, I'd guess it's a very small percentage. Unfortunately, many of those have been modified and/or refinished. Original and complete 1895 Russian muskets have become highly prized by collectors and the asking prices have soared lately. Well used examples have an average asking price of around $6K these days.
Good Day Everyone! I just acquired an original M1895 in .405 Win. . The serial number is 58831. Barrel signed: "MANTON & CO.", NICKEL STEEL BARREL ESPECIALLY FOR SMOKELESS POWDER" It is not in a good shape. All the blueing is gone and the wood have a lot of scars. Obviously had a rough life. Where can I found information about my gun ? I mean: When build, where it sold, etc. Thanks in advance! P.S.: Can we get a "Before/After" picture from this lovely .30-06 somehow?
Sounds like a very interesting 1895! If its serial number is lower than 60,000, the Cody Firearms Museum will have the factory records for your rifle, but they don't have shipping and destination records.
