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Take a full tour inside and out of an excellent condition Vitanola (not Victrola) phonograph!
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@Recordology 5 лет назад

In regards to that stamp on the motor - I took it out again and really spent some time trying to figure out what it said in bright daylight. Turns out it says "The Motor Of Quality - Made in USA" or something very similar. Some Google research lead me to learn about "Otto Heinemann and Company", offering "The Motor Of Quality" - check out more info here; forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15500

@danielarick2105 4 года назад

Otto Heinemann founded the OKeh record company in 1914 or about if you read more about him the name of his records are actually an acronym for his name Otto K E Heinemann check it out this is quite interesting

@Lucius1958 2 года назад

Yep: Heinemann was a great manufacturer of parts for the 'off-brand' market. Even Edison eventually took advantage of this: my 1929 P-1 'Needle Type' portable has a Heinemann 'Flyer' motor.

@lesrogers7310 5 лет назад

What a fantastic piece of vintage equipment. Thank you for showing us around this.

@Recordology 5 лет назад

Thank you so much! I appreciate that!

@NickP333 5 лет назад

What a beautiful piece of history. It’s pretty amazing how far this technology has come but also how relatively similar it still is too even 100 plus years later.

@Recordology 5 лет назад

Very true!

@jeanettetolman-realtor4908 5 лет назад

This is absolutely gorgeous and what an amazing show!

@rexoliver7780 5 лет назад

Amazing unit-in supurb shape!!!In those days-if you didn't have a phonograph-you would play a musical instrument yourself or the rest of the family would play-painos,guitars,pump organs,and such.Indeed record machines like this freed folks from having to play musical instruments themselves-esp if they could play an instrument-also player pianos were common back then.The wood horn in that machine is very similar to the mid range horn speakers seen today used by hi end audiophiles paying thousands of dollars for those.The Living Voice Palladium speaker system has such a horn!Driven by a diaphragm driver-speaker unit.And that is driven by a custom tube amp!So the wood horn still are with us today-just a lot more expensive-the wood horns take skill to make unlike the plastic and die cast metal lower priced horn speakers.Again Great machine and demo!!!!

@Recordology 5 лет назад

Thank you so much! Also thanks for the info about the horns - very interesting!

@kennethpotts5056 5 лет назад

What a beauty ! I have a Edison Amberola cylinder from 1911 Everytime I play it I'm amazed at the sound and the technology used to make this I don't think we could make this today

@Recordology 5 лет назад

Awesome!

@Fardemark 5 лет назад

I got my 1927 HMV floor model phonograph from a consignment shop for $100 and it works perfectly. I installed an Orthaphonic reproducer because they have much more flexible diaphragms so you can play electrically recorded 78's on them. I have a video of it playing some records on my channel. One thing you will notice right away is the frequency range is much greater than your average Columbia or other brand at the time :)

@Recordology 5 лет назад

Very cool....What is the diaphragm surface of the orthaphonic reproducer made of?

@Fardemark 5 лет назад

It is two sections of aluminum suspended off of each other by thin strips of metal which allows the vibrations to be greater and more precise. Thus allowing the stylus to ride electrically recorded grooves with ease.here is an article if you would like to read more about the history of electric recordings and the beginnings of the orthaphonic technologywww.shellac.org/wams/wortho1.html

@Recordology 5 лет назад

Interesting...

@somesvede 4 месяца назад

Electrically recorded records can be played on gramophones made pre 1925, though it wont sound as good. When you play an Edison record make sure to put a ball point needle on it so that the records dont get damaged. Love the video!

@musclecarfan74 2 года назад

My grandfather had one in great condition, that he never used. His uncle was a collector and had a whole house full of them when he passed away.

@danielarick2105 4 года назад

The Victor Talking Machine Company, started the internal machine off in 1906, the next was Columbia later that year or the next. In the late twenties acoustic machines were phased out and became relics and stashed away in attics or other storage spaces, some have managed to survive with little damage and some with a lot and need extensive work. I got started in the 1970's with 78's and an interest in antique phonographs now I have five working machines, but will look for and at others maybe just maybe buy another if it is of interest and the price is right

@Ecksterphono 7 месяцев назад

Otto Heineman 2 spring " The Motor of Quality" in the center of that logo should be a series number either 38 or other number. Looks like a series 95. If thats the case. You can source parts easily. Heineman spring motors were good quality motors which later became Okeh. Okeh was also a record company. Amazing video. I have quite a few top quality offbrands with these motors. Brunswick made phonographs, pool tables and other furniture. Meisellbach was another good quality motor which you'll find in lots of Brunswick Phonographs. They used a bell style governor to absorb the governor imperfections or vibrations which could traveling through the motorboard and cause unnecessary vibrations through the tonearm and governor flutter noise through the horn along with the music. Fibre gears were used on governor endless gears to reduce noise as well, however they wore out quickly and if you use any oil or grease on them the gears will shear apart in short order. Such is the drawback of fibre gears.

@danielarick2105 4 года назад

Columbia records were made to be played at 80 rpm,a lot of people have played these at the wrong speed

@jaysvintagerecordsandphono6184 4 года назад

Daniel Arick Generally they spin at around 80 rpm but that is just a rough estimate because the speed at which they were recorded wasn’t very consistent but generally Columbia’s prior to 1926 spin from 77 to 81 rpm

@robbalboni4179 5 лет назад

hello mr. record-ology, this machine is truly beautiful and a piece of recorded history for sure! you are pretty lucky to own one in this good of condition and a wonderful machine when quality meant something. take care and thanks for sharing this, rob

@Recordology 5 лет назад

Thank you

@olderendirt 3 года назад

Beautiful piece of history. When you opened the cabinet and I saw that tiger oak I made a happy noise. Thanks for showing the mechanics of the unit, too. How can one tell if something is acoustically recorded or was everything prior to a certain year? Thanks!

@traininthebutt7215 8 месяцев назад

You can play most electrically recorded records on an acoustic phonograph, just not softer ones post 1940s. They were recorded with acoustics and electronic phonographs in mind.

@kinescope-zr8lh 3 года назад

I have three phonographs like this. Two of them are victrolas but one is an off brand by the Kimberley phonograph company. I noticed some similarities in them, which is because most off brand phonograph companies used parts ordered out of a catalog.

@Recordology 3 года назад

Exactly, and only made the furniture....

@ThePhonographStop 5 лет назад

Very nice phonograph! You have a Heineman motor which was installed onto a lot of off brand phonographs including my Pathe VII (and now I see your comment below lol). Very good motor! Also those Wall Kane needles can get multiple plays out of them. they are very good needles!!

@Recordology 5 лет назад

Thank you so so much for your comment! I am blessed to have this!

@fortressmax20 Год назад

Otto Heineman Phonograph Co. became General Industries and is the motor on my Plaza Pal 509. They kept making motors at least to the thirties and even made radios. Also I have the Pathe Vii and it is great.

@richardhudson3014 5 лет назад

What a beautiful classic record player it looks absolutely amazing and it is a marvaillous example of engineering and technology absolutely amazing rock on record-ology 🤘🤘🎸🎸

@Recordology 5 лет назад

Thank you!

@richardhudson3014 5 лет назад

@@Recordology you're very welcome 🤘🤘✋🎸🎸

@markwilliams4792 5 лет назад

I own a Victor talking machine from November 1916, it is a vvx1

@james-flynn1938 5 лет назад

What a great informative video sounded pretty good to me I it's always best to get in contact with someone who can service it like replace the grease and check out anything that could be wrong with it which in turn will make it last indefinitely for others to enjoy

@Recordology 5 лет назад

Good info thank you! And thank you for your kind comments as well!

@jhonwask 4 года назад

I have 9 Victors, 2 Edisons and a broken Panatrope I love them and all mechanical phonographs. BTW it is V-eye-ta-phone.. LOL.

@Recordology 4 года назад

Did I say V-eee-ta-phone?

@jhonwask 4 года назад

@@Recordology LOL yes.

@Lucius1958 2 года назад

I have 8 Edisons, 5 Columbias (including clients), 3 Victors, and a Talk-O-Phone, all dating between 1899 - 1929. I heartily agree with you.

@Luna_Potato Год назад

btw you can play electrical records past the 1920s on this old player, like 30s and 40s just need to get a more sensitive reproducer that was made back in the day. only issues is playing the 78s at the end of the 78 era like the mid 1950s where they started to make them out of softer material

@luvmyrecords 2 года назад

P.S. Congrats on your beautiful machine!

@dummheitstube 2 года назад

The record is probably electrically recorded. Only records until the early 20s were acoustic records. The Columbia logo was different back then.

@Doggo_Norse 4 года назад

0:51 that intro hurts

@Recordology 4 года назад

lol

@jaysvintagerecordsandphono6184 4 года назад

If you do have any Edison or pathe records, Don’t play them with the steel needles as they will be damaged. You need to use a sapphire ball stylus which you can usually find on eBay for around $50

@jaysvintagerecordsandphono6184 4 года назад

Here’s a link to one www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-ball-stylus-needle-78rpm-Pathe-vertical-hill-dale-new-old-stock/392310066635?hash=item5b57808dcb:g:oH0AAOSwv9FXg6zj

@jaysvintagerecordsandphono6184 4 года назад

And these sapphire ball styluses can be used forever because they don’t wear out

@Recordology 4 года назад

Thanks for the info.....

@Lucius1958 2 года назад

The sapphire ball stylus will not work on Edisons: those used a pointed diamond stylus.

@luvmyrecords 2 года назад

I doubt there were drawers. Shelves like these are common on old disc machines. Delux machines with storage, like the the later Victor Orthophonic, had storage areas for storage albums. Cylinders were stored in cases and drawers, but not discs. Regarding needles - they weren't blunt, they were sharp. Early acoustic discs were formulated with an abrasive to get the needle to conform to their grooves. Once used, the needle indeed is worn, and will act like a chisel on the next record you play if you don't change it.

@Ecksterphono 7 месяцев назад

Its an offbrand. Lots of potmetal components. Leave electrical cut records off that machine ( 1924 onward). Thing is if you can get a stylus for pathé your set. Edison records require a diamond stylus and play at 80rpm. Edison did have a few steel needlepoint records but they're as rare as hens teeth. Brunswick used oval pressed paper machê horns

@yb7278 5 лет назад

I recently also bought some antique phonographs. Thankfully they all arrived in fantastic and original condition. Are you planning on buying more of these antique phonographs? This one looks amazing!

@Recordology 5 лет назад

I think this will be the only one for me...but I sure do love it!

@Recordology 5 лет назад

Awesome!

@stevefish3124 2 года назад

Do nor play Edison Diamond Discs with a steel needle To play Pathe vertical cut records use the proper saphire stylus. Early Okeh, Aolean, and Paramount records were vertical and are played using the same needles as the lateral cut records.

@gregoryclemen1870 2 года назад

the speed adjustment was put in to change the speed to 80 R,P,M., for playing "EDISON" recordings, they were not 78 R.P.M. recordings!!!!

@annethompson1962 4 года назад

How would I go about finding out how to get my grandmother's Vitanola looked at to see if it could be brought back to working condition?

@Recordology 4 года назад

There are a few people who service these - I myself am not that knowledgeable. Try a google search or ask some youtubers who specialize in the older stuff like this. Thank you for watching and commenting!

@neilmansfield8329 6 месяцев назад

madnificent

@robertwilkinson5865 5 лет назад

Woah....

@Recordology 5 лет назад

IKR

@pinkbloom99 4 года назад

Awesome overview!

@Recordology 4 года назад

Thank you

@scottie777777 2 года назад

I HAVE A VITANOLA MODEL 150. GREAT CONDITION. GOT IT ON CRAIGSLIST FOR 100 BUCKS.

@shelbyhubble9489 3 года назад

I own the same one! I’d hate to part with mine, but I’m moving soon and am afraid it will be damaged. Any suggestions for selling prices or places to sell it to?

@Recordology 3 года назад

So hard to say! Mora than 150 less than 450 perhaps?

@muddysledge 4 года назад

Great video and what a beautiful machine. My dad had a floor standing victrola that I loved. I just recently got an RCA Victor 78 speed player with am radio that still works but needs some love.

@Recordology 4 года назад

Excellent!

@pikotaboada 5 лет назад

Beautiful machine

@Recordology 5 лет назад

Thank you! I am very blessed to be its caretaker for now!

@leannmeixner8073 2 года назад

It VITE-ta- nola ! Also, your cabinet I think was originally stained the reddish tone you see inside. I dont think any of them were raw oak color as is yours.

@AlbertBenajam-ww1db 11 дней назад

Post 1925 ELECTRIC RECORDS can be played on machines like this IF a Electric-era, post 1925 reproducer put on. The reproducers will generaly bayonet on and will fit other prans. Identifilying/ Reproducers saying ORTHOPHNIV (Victor) or VIVI TONE ( Columbia) or Most pre102t flat diaphram made of glass, plastic, metal were FLAT. Post 1925 were shaped with patterns, Needle bar area where it meets center of diaphram, domed or pa5teref. Near out edge corregated. Or 99% made pf metal Or Usually shielded somewhat, wheas preqowt, not. Victor portable suitczsse wind ups were made into 40s. If the machine says RVA VICTOR its from ppost 1928. Give it a try, the improvement can be great.

@rocketaroo 5 лет назад

lovely machine!

@Recordology 5 лет назад

Thank you!

@AlbertBenajam-ww1db 11 дней назад

If you slow down the parade of avertsments to quarter speed, you will find that the Vitanolo and some of the others maje the claim that they " PLAY ALL RECORDS" This means sonething, that they will play lateral records like VICTOR and COLUMBIA, and also veryicled like PATHE, EDISON, UNEVERSAL. The was a real valid claim as PATHE, machines would play Pathe, EDISON only Edison etc ,( Though Victor and Columbia were playable on each other. Companies thatade records, generaly made machines playing only th3re own, but firms like Vitamnola could play many brands as he showed. This factir helped many mahine makers like Vitamilo exißt. Though when Electr8cal recording came in the odd ßtyle disappered.

@markmarkofkane8167 4 года назад

I have an old Brunswick cabinet record player. Not nearly as in good condition as yours. It still works. You have to change the needle with each play. I have a few on my channel. (With a bunch of other silly stuff)

@Recordology 4 года назад

Cool! Have you tried fiber needles?

@markmarkofkane8167 4 года назад

@@Recordology not yet. If I can get them reasonably priced, I'll try the fiber needles.