1930s Gearbox Bike - Restoration 

HELLO! MY ONLY QUESTION IS, WILL YOU GIVE SUCH A RARITY TO A MUSEUM? GREETINGS FROM RUSSIA!

It would have been nice to see some more actual full shots of this bike

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Honda Aist better. Or Honda Casper. You can see them in RUSSIA !

Старые велосипеды 50х 60 х 70 х 80 х были качествеными и простыми почти вечные у меня есть велосипед Урал 1980 г выпуска купил мне отец на день рождения на 14 лет . С того дня прошло 44 года а он до сих пор на ходу теперь уже внуки учатся на нем ездить .

Thank you very much!

I can tell you how that bicycle could end up in Hungary,because of collaboration with Third Reich as an ally ,don't you think that's possible.

Nice history!!!

And I thought I got creative restoring my '79 Dave Moulton!

​​@@bobbytheboy1конечно именно так. Как и Венгерская печка для солдат третьего рейха, которая у меня на полке стоит. Котра "случайно" под Ленинградом нашлась. Как и вторая Венгерская армия в 200.000 которая почти вся осталось под Сталинградом и переводчески находим останки.

Great story!

Thank you!😊

Some modern bikes are 'trash' from new!

@@pcka12 That's the true story.

I am just retired, i was a kid in the 60’s and 70’s (Canada). There was a group of us kids 11-14 years old who would go scrapping on garbage days(people put out trash for pickup). We had could often pickup many old bikes in the spring time, people buy new bikes and throw old ones out. We could easily put together one good bike from parts. Often these bikes would get sold 5$, and it was an ongoing thing . The bikes were nothing near the quality of these older European bikes. The bikes from the ’60’s and 70’s were the start of disposable bikes era. I have seen the complete circle of quality, and many new bikes from the 90’s onward are again made of good quality materials, and were expensive and worth repairing.

Добрый день, подскажи пожалуйста как этот привод работает я искал информацию и не мог найти для чего там переключение , что оно даёт, какой принцип работы?

the shifter lever is so sick

​​@@user-sb1uh9go9w похож на стандартную автомобильную ручную трансмиссию, но в этом случае есть только 2 скорости. Вилка переключения толкает эти 2 шестерёнки разных размеров на осе влево / вправо, где они состекуются с шестерёнкой на втором осе привода сзади. По моему такой же принцип как у современных вело-трансмиссии Пинион, только у него 9+ скоростей а не 2.

Yeah, I've heard of old gearboxes, but never seen one. My own bike has a modern gearbox by Pinion - which is also German.

Россия... Про какие велосипеды и их изготовление в росии можно говорить,, когда в России разрушены трактный заводы, автомобильные заводы Зил, комбайновый заводы, мотоциклетный завод ИЖ, и наконец АВИАЦИОНЫЙ ЗАВОД.... 😲

@@user-tu3yq8iz1s я не про Россию я вообще про весь мир сейчас даже топовые когда то бренды делают фигню, про Россию и говорить нечего даже иголки и те не делают ...

​@@user-tu3yq8iz1sА кто об этом позаботился ? Ни запад ли , когда Горбачёв перестройку надумал , а алкаш Ельцин остатки пропил , запад всегда врагом был , посмотрите историю , они к нам с мечём шли, а не мы!!!!

Если вы имеете ввиду компоновку, то похожее называется pinion ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IoWpFLfAZq4.html

​@@user-tu3yq8iz1s это старая методичка😂😂😂

This is by definition a restoration. Don't post cringey comments.

@@spankyjeffro5320 heritage conservation: definition Unfortunately, there is no single definition, because the schools of thought in restoration are diverse and especially theidea of conservative restoration varies greatly in different restoration fields. In general, however, we can say that conservation restoration is a restoration intervention thataims to consolidate the art object in order to restore its legibility and slow down its degradation. The basic idea of heritage conservation is to restore the existing, without reconstructing what has been lost. For example: An affresco where part of the plaster has come off and 30% of the work has been lost (permanently). If we were to do a conservative restoration to the affresco, the restorer will be responsible for securing the 70% of the fresco that is left, taking care that there are no new detachments and restoring the colors of the time by trying to use the same materials. However, the restorer will not go and "redesign" the 30 percent of the affresco that was destroyed. As we said in heritage conservation one must deal with the existing, what remains. I personally think that you are a person without arguments who is just looking for visibility, but that is essentially your problem.

@@spankyjeffro5320 This dude woke up to be toxic for no reason. They said their OPINION (which you may never heard of before) and they still praised their work. So yea, dont post toxic comments. Thank you for your cooperation.

I was going to comment similarly, you express it better though. I was itching to get out the spraying gear and give it a lick of fresh paint :D

@@spankyjeffro5320 You're joking... Right? There's no new paint, the parts weren't brought back to factory condition before reassembly... The only cringey comment here is yours.

человек молодец

Впервые вижу вел с такой кпп) Это что, двухскоростная? Типа, пониженная в горку, и прямая для ровных дорог?

18:30 а вот это он зря) Необдуманный шаг! Если придётся снова разбирать, то понадобится ах рен еть какой мощный съёмник. Лучшее - враг хорошего! Там достаточно парочка ударов молотком и резбового прижима фиксирующими гайками. Рядовой велосипедист ремонтирует всегда "на коленке", в дороге, или просто во дворе. И точно также, при помощи молотка, но уже боковыми ударами, демонтирует шатуны. Автор тут явно переусердствовал с прессом🥴

Оказывается когда я в детстве перебирал свой велик для смазки и чистки я его реставрировал... Я понять не могу как это можно назвать реставрацией, у меня бы рука не поднялась оставить раму и др. элементы в таком виде имея такую мастерскую.

@@asarasswat593 не помню как называется, но в этом особый смысл, оставить все максимально аутентичным.

Danke für das Lob!

---Wunderbares Fahrrad--- Aber sowas von! Adler ist auch Top. Danke für diesen Kommentar.

Nur den argen Höhenschlag an den Felgen hätte er auch noch ausbügeln können ( Min.23:05). Die ovalen Aluscheiben, die unter die Speichennippel verbaut wurden, gehören mit der längeren Seite in Fahrtrichtung, die sind vorgerundet somit dürften die nicht willkürlich verbaut werden. Ansonsten kann man nicht maulen. 😊

Vielen Dank für das Lob!😊

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Yeah but did you see the KMC chain that came out of the Wippermann tin?

@@eternaloptimist2840 Ssssst don't ruin it now.

@@eternaloptimist2840 Kinda makes you wonder what else isn't what it appears.

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German army ww2 driving Wanderer bikes..

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Not a restoration video.

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😂👌🏼 thank you!

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They're betting on the assumption that people wouldn't know of 130-year-old bike design technologies.

What absolutely floored me is seeing aerodynamic tri-spoke and disk wheels more than a 100 years ago. No wind tunnels or CAD - just scientific principles and intuitive design.

Shut up and buy our next product !

@@ClifftopTragedy - you are contradicting yourself. I can either shut up or buy the next product, can't do both.

​@ClifftopTragedy... and expect to throw it out shortly after the (usually very short) warranty expires!

Wow thank you very much for that feedback!

He didn't do anything here... He didn't even give it new paint. He took it apart and put it back together... What is there to admire?

@@tomeksz7203 Unfortunataly I have to agree, the video is amazing, but as someone with quite a bit of mechanical background I struggled to watch in some instances. Especially the hydraulic press for crankarms made me cry inside, pressing a square taper like that pretty much bonds it forever if ANY amount of rust forms, cranks are meant to be press in place with the bolt/nut retaining them; using an hydraulic press (even if antiseize/grease was applied to the mating surfaces) will just scrap the shaft for any future disassembly. Again, amazing bike and video, but only ppl with no mechanical experience can just be amazed without having some bone-chilling instances during the video.

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The bike has obviously been repaired and worked on over the decades, I'd say it has sat somewhere in someone's shed for 20 years (likely a relative who inherited it)

@@SilvaDreams these old bikes are built like and as long as you keep it greased, it's good to ride. This bike is so unique with the gearbox and better alternatives available from the '50s onwards, I think it wasn't used at least for the last 50 - 60 years. Paint job definitely is original with its decals.

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Well, that's very personal... Modern bikes are, questionably, overly fragile and maybe overly expensive, but this bike (with all due respect) holds nothing against even the most basic modern steel frame in terms of design/weight/confort/geometry. It's a spectacle to watch such a beutiful bike being preserved, but I wouln't go as far as to call it "better than most modern stuff". Gearboxes are sure reliable and amazing, but you can fix a modern drivetrain roadside with a 100g multitool, not so much for a gearbox.

@@andy_liga You don't understand what a base design is, do you? I never said the bike was better than modern ones. If you're over about twelve years old your teachers are probably to blame.

@@siraff4461 wow, someone got offended here... would you mind explaining what do you mean by "base design"? Do you mean the fact that everything in this bike is over-constructed and probably gonna outlast humanity itself? Do you mean the geometry of the bike? Cause yeah, I mean, this looks like any other upright comfy bike geometry out there, there hasn't been any real breakthrough in the geometry of upright city bikes in the last 100years. Do you mean the fact that the rear triangle is removable? That's a crappy design used solely to help manufacturing by introducing a significant error tolerance in the design, as shown in the video, it often cracks, due to the stress raisers in some spots, mainly the bolt/bolt eyelet and connecting pieces. Are you wow-ed by the fact that the tubes from the front triangle aren't welded/braised but bolted to the headtube/BB/seatstay? Again, manufacturing aid, welding a flat triangle can be very challenging without introducing some warp or deformation, especially with the rudimentary metallurgy we had back then for civilian applications, like making a "mundane bike". Old bikes aren't better than new ones in any measurable way (few exceptions aside like the Lotus 108 maybe), sure they can be pretty and I agree with that, but still... Btw I'm way older than 12yo. At that age, while you were blaming the teachers, I was busy learning mechanical engineering from my grampa :P

@@andy_liga "learning mechanical engineering" yet you don't even understand the concept of design basics vs overall performance. Some of the concepts (base design) of this bike are better in a lot of ways than most new ones. That doesn't mean it works better. It doesn't mean its a better product. It means the ideas behind it are better. For instance having a sealed gearbox allows better lubrication without dirt or water ingress along with allowing for a much stronger gearset in a much smaller area. It also means the chain can be solid which reduces component count and increases reliability vs a derailer or even a sprung tensioner. It also allows a thinner driveline which allows a thinner frame throw and therefore increased strength per weight. There are numerous other advantages like shorter cable length vs a rear cassette, not having to spin every gear regardless of which is engaged, less unsprung weight if you're using rear suspension, a smaller rear spindle width which again reduces unsprung weight and increases strength per size, potentially less aero drag because there aren't multiple gear wheels and an s-bend in the flow - along with the thinner crank allowing the same and on and on it goes. Of course you knew that with your "mechanical engineering" background, right? Just because it was made a long time back using the materials and techniques of the day doesn't mean something newer is automatically a better design. Simply throwing some Shimano kit on a basic triangle for a frame is much cheaper and easier but that only makes it better if you buy into the advertising. Why would a modern company throw a load of r&d into something when they can sell something very similar to last years for a nice bump to people like you who don't understand that a carbon frame actually isn't that expensive or hard to make?

@@siraff4461 I mean, I'm not here for a confrontation, I wasn't here for that to begin with either... but yeah, that's what you get when you start talking to strangers on the internet sometimes. Anyway, yeah, you pointed out how gearboxes are more reliable (as I stated earlier), that the this bikes design as a whole isn't bad (as I stated earlier) and that most new bike are overpriced/overly fragile (as I stated earlier). I mean, yeah, I don't understand where this whole aggression is coming from (I would understand if you would be the CEO of Pinion, but I wasn't shitting on gearboxes either). Btw I do get that you have strong opinions (since you sound like a smart person, sincerely) I just don't agree with the way of communicating them :) [EDIT] minor spelling

Thank you! Interesting that this is used in modern bikes as well. Did not know about that

@@forgottenthings The rebirth is quite new, since the 1990s Schlumpf offers a gearbox but that seems to have only two gears so that it's often combined with a gear hub, but seems to be mostly used on recumbent bicycles (Liegeräder). And Pinion began around 2006 but the first gearbox was introduced in 2011. Similar to the Rohloff Speedhub it also seems to be very pricey, couldn't find exact figures, but the 12-speed C1.12 seems to cost around a thousand bucks, I got a Gudereit Bike with that transmission leased since August and with a MSRP of 3000€ it was seemingly one of the cheapest bikes that use Pinion. I guess compared to that a full Shimano XT 12-speed kit (crank, chain, rear derailleur, cassette, shifter) won't cost you more than 500 bucks. And at first glance you may also confuse it with an Electric middle motor by Bosch, Yamaha or Shimano.

Hey why would that be the case now go home and take your meds.

It’s pretty amazing that most of the same engineering has lasted so long and not changed much. It’s a modern connection to the past, but I’ve never seen the gear box before. I found it nostalgic and an honorable way to spend time.

@@christopherbrubaker2070 yes, I agree with that, but he never restored it. The title is misleading. This is not a restoration. It’s a service and a clean no matter how much you butter it up

@@OliverReilly1 Oh right, ok I got ya. Yah I don’t like misleading titles either. I wonder if I would have clicked on “ hey I’m polishing my bicycle” though. Lol but yah I can see what you meant.

@@christopherbrubaker2070 to be honest, I would have clicked it just to see the gearbox as I’ve never seen one before like yourself, but I felt disappointed that he didn’t fully restore it, but I also respect he kept the character of the bike. Mechanical restoration would have been a more fitting title

Thank you for sharing your story!

Thank you for your comment! A company called Adler had a similiar model, but with a more complicated three-speed gearbox. Bicycle history is super interesting!

Bike mechanic (on and off too) and I have to say you're a source of inspiration to me: I guess you realize my dreams, f*cking satisfying to see

@@My_Op Wow! Thank you for your comment!!

@Mark - Why do you feel the need to use such words? Are you 12?

I’ve got a gearbox bike from 1908. And it still works perfectly.

Pleasure to hear that! We´re glad our style of restoring forgotten things gets that feedback!

Restoring or just cleaning 😂😂bad job's

Thank you! You find more information about that model by searching for "Wanderer Getrieberad". A very interesting competitor at that time is also the "Adler Getrieberad" which even features a 3-speed gearbox. You can find more information regarding the Torpedo hub at scheunenfun.de/explosionszeichnung.htm. The website is a little bit messy, but the information is really good. You got us, some parts were really stuck and took a lot of WD-40 and time. Nevertheless, it came apart more easily than we are used to.

Agreed. After many frustrating fights to separate parts without destroying them, I would always use Coppaslip (or similar products) when reassembling. That’s not going against originality. That’s just good common sense.

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Thank you! Nice collection!

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Ya dumaiou 15.000

@@johanjanssens4530 нееее, 15.000 дорого, может и 5.000 дорого. Пусть автор раскроет тайну.

More like around 2000 euro

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