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1933 RCA Cathedral Radio Model 120 Repair and Spruce Up 

Tom Carlson
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In this weeks video we look at the roots of my collecting/restoration hobby: Antique Radio. I just finished the editing today barely in time for release tonight, so it's going to premier a bit later than usual.
This is the last complete video filmed on the Nikon before it's demise.
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Комментарии : 29   
@johnnytacokleinschmidt515
@johnnytacokleinschmidt515 2 года назад
Wow! Dolphins, motorboats, and whale sonar. Special radio. Great looking radio. Looking forward to hearing it talk and sing again.
@johnnytacokleinschmidt515
@johnnytacokleinschmidt515 2 года назад
Does it have Marine Band? It must...
@johnnytacokleinschmidt515
@johnnytacokleinschmidt515 2 года назад
The Marine Band is great. They have their own RU-vid channel... Enough puns I guess.
@radiorestore
@radiorestore Год назад
I've been looking for a video on restoring the RCA Cathedral Radio Model 120 for some time. Thanks for the technical quality that will be very valuable in restoring the radio I bought. Thanks😀
@michaelmacdonald3408
@michaelmacdonald3408 Год назад
Ready for another 100 years of service good stuff.
@billmyke746
@billmyke746 2 года назад
That's some serious motorboating. 'Dolphin' had me laughing!
@tomcarlson3913
@tomcarlson3913 2 года назад
Probably the worst/'most-amusing' case of motorboating I've encountered.
@davedrezTV
@davedrezTV 2 года назад
"Interesting - I just opened a can of worms..." Thanks Tom!
@keithrichards8969
@keithrichards8969 2 года назад
I didn’t want you be disappointed, I bought this radio “You Hack”. This a great looking radio and I appreciate all of your hard work. It was great to meet you!
@tomcarlson3913
@tomcarlson3913 2 года назад
Thanks! I hope it gives you many years of good service.
@keithrichards8969
@keithrichards8969 2 года назад
@@tomcarlson3913 what’s the best antenna hook up for this radio?
@tomcarlson3913
@tomcarlson3913 2 года назад
@@keithrichards8969 The Best antenna hookup is to string about 100' of wire between your house and a tree keeping the wire over 10' in the air (connect the house end to the antenna wire of the radio), and to connect the radio's ground to a metal water pipe or building ground. Until loop antennas became popular in the later 30's longwire antennas were the standard. You can probably get away with ~25' of antenna wire strung along the floor of an above ground room as a way to get fairly decent results without too much effort. My basement workshop antenna is basically ~25-45' of wire strung along the basement rafters.
@joeyjennings9548
@joeyjennings9548 2 года назад
i guess the speaker paper is still good? nice radio there 👍 for some reason i was expecting you to tune in radio programs from the 1930's 🤔 and then the music started 👍
@tomcarlson3913
@tomcarlson3913 2 года назад
I probably should have done that...I've got a modest collection of golden age radio recordings from digital on down to 16" inside start program transcription discs. Some Fibber McGee & Molly, or Jack Benny, etc would have rounded this video out nicely.👍
@marka1986
@marka1986 2 года назад
I'm going right down to the radio supply store to get some nice headphones, maybe stock up on some paper condensers too. :)
@tomcarlson3913
@tomcarlson3913 2 года назад
🤣 If you're ever around Waukesha I've got a whole bankers box of paper caps (for incase I decide to restuff something that's been recapped before) that I could/would give away if someone wanted it.
@marka1986
@marka1986 2 года назад
Thanks but I don't bother restuffing caps either. Someone might like them though.
@dw8840
@dw8840 Год назад
I have this same radio that needs restored. I got it for free. I know it needs new caps, the speaker coil has an open, the wiring is frayed, it looks like a real challenge to recap.
@tomcarlson3913
@tomcarlson3913 Год назад
While not exactly a dream to service, these are far from the worst I've had to deal with. Sears and Wards sold some sets where the caps were packed in to the chassis in layers along with a tangle of rubber wiring that crumbles if disturbed (changing anything but tubes in those is Pandora's box), and Philco Predicta TVs it's either un-wire and remove the entire circuit board (something like 30 wires) or un-wire 5% to get a 2" gap to solder it like building a ship in a bottle. There are companies that can rebuild speakers for a price...You can also substitute speakers. If the output transformer is still good all you have to do is find something with a close voice coil impedance...If the sub has a field coil all the better, but if not a field coil can be replaced with a run of the mill B+ choke or even a power resistor.
@fiddlyphuk6414
@fiddlyphuk6414 Год назад
Looks like an RF stage that feeds the converter and no IF stage. That's a new one on me.
@tomcarlson3913
@tomcarlson3913 Год назад
This was RCA's answer to the Philco Jr (the Jr family started with the Philco 80 IIRC). Which was Philco's cheapest radio...A $20 4 tube super-regenerative (Superhet with regenerative IF amp). In a way it makes sense RCA would respond to an unusual design with their own unusual design.
@tompadberg336
@tompadberg336 Год назад
Tom - thanks for doing this video. Your radio is beautiful. I have started working on a GE K-55 which is the console version of the RCA 210, 110 and 95% the same to your 120. The video has been extremely helpful. My radio has a can 4uf and can 10uf with a box type 4uf. Originally it had a two section box type 4uf. The electrolytic caps are very crusty. Some of the dog bone resistors have gone high in value and I’m changing them. Like yours, access to the paper caps is very difficult. I ordered replacement mica caps for the mmf caps. I see you didn’t replace any of those. What’s your experience with those? Are they indeed antique mica caps and have you seen failures with them? My 57 second detector tube has filament lighting but zero emission on my tube tester so I think a bad paper cap fried the tube. Nice touch that you used a original style cord.
@tomcarlson3913
@tomcarlson3913 Год назад
Glad this video was helpful. Generally speaking in 30's radios caps rated less than 1000pF=.001uF are almost always mica or air dielectric caps, and anything .001uF and up is almost always paper (till you reach electrolytic territory). Generally speaking mica cap failure is fairly rare especially in the plastic encapsulated caps. I take a legal system approach to micas...I assume they're innocent until proven guilty. I have heard of bad micas, but I've only really seen any bad ones in deflection circuits of early post war TVs. They aren't really worth changing until you find a bad one through troubleshooting. Tubes do sometimes go stone dead with a good heater. Sometimes a good cathode acts like a getter and the outer surface absorbs gas and becomes insulative...CRTs develop this problem and collectors call it sleeping sickness. When a tube goes to sleep you can sometimes wake it up by clicking the tester heater to the next highest setting and testing the tube. I've also seen testers that don't like a speciffic type number tube. My Heathkit tester I use on the old fat pin types is fairly accurate for everything except for type 78 which it always thinks is weak or dead...Even NOS examples that other collectors have tested on other testers read weak on mine...On type 78's I've taken the stance that if it works in the radio my tester should be ignored.
@mikepasko7493
@mikepasko7493 2 месяца назад
It sounds quite distorted Did you check the bias voltage?
@tomcarlson3913
@tomcarlson3913 2 месяца назад
No, but most 20's - mid 30's radios don't sound much better (if they don't sound worse than this). I don't own it anymore so there's no checking it now.
@michaelmacdonald3408
@michaelmacdonald3408 Год назад
I ask the question will modern capacitors last 80 to 90 years later as i have seen caps after the 1970s have failed.
@tomcarlson3913
@tomcarlson3913 Год назад
Film caps possibly. Electrolytic caps unlikely. Modern film capacitors started with Sprague Orange Drops around 1960. Sixty years later about 90% of Orange Drops are still good enough for radio. A good brand of film capacitor like Panasonic could potentially last longer. Electrolytics have both gotten better and gotten worse (google capacitor plague to see what I mean) depending on brand. Still at best case scenario if you run lytics for more than 30 years you're probably risking the equipment they're in. Modern caps are still worlds better than 1930's caps that often didn't last the first 2 years of the products life without one or more failing. If I wanted to recap a radio for absolute maximum longevity I would replace all the paper caps with 1KV ceramics, and replace the filter lytics with film capacitors. They make film caps as large as 10uF at voltages that would work in most radios, but they're EXPENSIVE...Technically some 30's radios never had electrolytic caps, before electrolytics were developed many radio makers used gigantic 4uF 450V paper caps so using film lytics is doable. I do a mixture of radios and TVs so I don't stock ceramic caps (they have unfavorable temp stability for replacing paper caps in TVs).
@michaelmacdonald3408
@michaelmacdonald3408 Год назад
Is your lost capacitor inside the I F can.
@tomcarlson3913
@tomcarlson3913 Год назад
That's possible. I never found it so it's either under the IF can, in the IF can, never installed due to a production change not documented in the schematic I was using, or deleted by a previous repair man. It's also possible I wasn't reading the schematic right. The scans I often look up on nostalgia air tend to be Bigfoot sighting photo level image quality...
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