Very sad story to hear from an Hindu family from our area indeed but my family also told me similar kind of heart-wrenching stories of Nowhere area when it fell into Indian army hands. They killed Muslim population, burnt our houses and made us homeless. Jammu massacre is yet another horrible story of 1947. Wish we could have treated each other as human beings rather than Hindu or Muslim. Please convey my deep inner feelings to this old couple as I feel sorry for them from other side of the LOC. Indeed this should have never happened in the first place
im from mirpur sides panyam near chakswari does Baba Ji know that area if he does i need some history on panyam please. and Baba Ji has made me so happy talking mirpuri, May Allah give him more life
It is so beautiful to hear uncle ans Auntie speaker my mother tongue, Mirpuri. I come from a village known as Chandral. My mother was from A village known as Mandi. Both of these villages are very near the old Mirpur shair. My mother told us the horrible partion of 1947, where innocent people died from both sides. I would love to entertain old Mirpuri people who had left in difficult circumstances.
I wasn’t around at that time but I know my grandad was a biggest Muslim land owner from mohara pelraj and biggest land owner was Bakashi Bharaman. Just before partition Bakashi sold his land to my Grandad. My grandad neighbour was well known Hakim Baba Singh and when he wanted to leave for Jammu my grandad sent 6 people with him to Escort him to the Border after he insisted to go. Also there was a lot of poverty among Muslim population because they had to pay taxes for ruler to pay back his loans.
Fascinating stuff. I would really like to hear more stories from Hindu and Sikh Mirpuris - there’s much we can learn. Please kindly interview more people who migrated from Mirpur. Thanks
The 'cruel Raja' of Kas Gumma the old lady is referring to is Raja Afzal Khan Chib. Afzal Khan was the major tout of Dogra Hari Singh in Mirpur district. He served Hari Singh as governor of Jammu and Kas Gumma was awarded to him as a jagir. Afzal Khan was despised as a traitor and Dogra collaborator by the Muslims of Mirpur. It seems in the end he turned on the Hindus he once served so loyally.
Thank you very much brother for highlighting this point. I wanted to do this but did not have all the details. I pray that Allah swt holds him accountable for the horror he committed. These nasty raja would treated us like sindhis if we did not come to England.
kasguma is around 10 km east of mirpur.. ppl left mirpur for jammu so they came towards kasgumma ( gume na kas) to reach jammu through the jungles but they were captured at kasgumma and sorrounding areas. then they were brought to ali baig kamp. some women were left behind in this area.. n got married here.. these women visited the jammu later in 2000s.
Very sad and horrible story. Same happened to our family as they move to Pakistani side of kashmir. We settle in mirpur now. Great to hear from Amma gee story. My mum and dad was use to tell us same sort of stories. Regret what happened to these mirpures
Ye maa ji jo jagah bata re hain gummay na kass mai us village ka hi hoon. Mai gummay na kass mein rehta hoon. Ali baigh humaray ghar se 20 mint door hai. Aur mirpur bhi gummay na kass ke paas hai 30 mint ki drive hai.
Mata g k me NY pori baati suni hy waqi bht ghlt huwa but jo log ya sahookar hindo passa biaj pr dy kr Muslims ka Kia haal krty thaay wo be bta detin,,,pundit Krishan dev sathi sab ny be aik bar TV interview me btaya thaa k hindo sahakooro NY muslim ko 10 ropy dy kr sari life k liay ghullam bna lett thyy,,pandit Krishan Dave sathi sab be mipur say hii gy thy,,,dosra bal k Gupta ki book me NY be study ki hy wo be aik jga likhty hn k jub wo mipur sy bhaag kr samahni (jdr abinandan ka jhaaz gra thaa)udr sy kaflay me jaa rhy thy phr achank Muslims k aik group aaa gya humaray pass oun me mery neighbors ka aik nokr thaa jo mirpur mery neighbors Hindu k pass kaam krta thaa wo log ous ghrib pr bht hatyachar krty thaay roti be bht mushkl sy dty thaay,, wo apnay oun maalko ko Dhoni rha thaaa marany k liay,,,dadyal k aik buzur sy be me NY aik bar pocha k idr k logo NY hindu ki help q nahi k ,,tu ouno NY btaya,,k mery baap NY sahaakar lala sy shadi k liay ouski dokan sy Saman khrida thaa phr 15 Sal passy dy dy kr thus gy thaay phr be soood khtm hony ka naam be nahi leti thii wo her bar Sal.me 3 bar humaray ghar sy bakriyan tuk khol k ly jata thaaa,,,humarai Nani NY meri maa ko bhes di ta k buchoo ko dodh pila so bucho ko lusi or yogurt roti khany k liay ho jain but sahookar wo be galyan dy kr ly gya,,,,phr 1947 me jub wohi Hindu sahookar ko jub pathano ny mara tu mera baap be pathano k sath mil kr ous sahookar ko mara wo bht roya k mjy buchaao meri help kro but mery baap ny ousi tra sticks Marty huy Bola tu ny mera 15 Sal khoon pia mery buchoo ki bhooq teri biaaaj ki khtr ki,,tu nay tu mery poray parivar ka khoon pia so aj tum pr ko merci nahi osi tra osy sticks maari jistra wo aaa kur hum ko sticks maar kr galyan nkaal kr passy bakriyan ly jata thaa,,ous k wo bety ho hum pr hansty thaay jub wo hum ko galyan nkalta or Marta,,,aj ous waqt wo be ro rhy thaaa,,but no mercy,,,jo be huwa wo ghult huwa ,,,,hope next time Asa kabhi na ho
Sad to hear their story but happy to hear my language from them.you can see video's of old mirpur on RU-vid but old mirpur under water now.im from akalgarh village near old mirpur
Omg he speaks just like the Punjabi we speak in #Mirpir. You're welcome back any time, dear friend. Kashmir never had the ethnic problem like the then British Raj.
All People of PoJK and Jammu Division of J&K speak Punjabi type languages.. far from the Kashmiri... yet we are identified as Kashmiris.. Kashmiri is only limited to the valley.. after that in the mountains of Poonch, Rajouri and in plains of Jammu Province Pahari-potohari, Hindko, Gojri, Dogri starts...
STILL WE ALL SPEAK SAME MIRPURI EVEN AFTER PARTITION.. WE HAVE MIRPUR BIRADRI HERE IN INDIA . EVEN WHO LIVE IN WESTERN COUNTRIES STILL SPEAK MIRPURI.. I STILL HAVE MANY DOCTOR FRIENDS IN MIRPUR.. . # DR.KANCHANS DESK .
