1947: From Dutch Boy to Murderer - 1st 'Police Actions' | The Indonesian War of Independence Part 3 

I write this on the 4th of May 2020, the day on which the Dutch remember those who have fallen during World War Two and after that on peacekeeping missions. Those who fought and died in the Dutch East-Indies are remembered too, as the role they have to play on the Dutch remembrance day is still debated. Now, we don't want to go into the modern debate about how they should be remembered, as we're not here to discuss politics. This video should at least provide the context to that debate. If you choose to share your opinion, please do keep our rules in mind. Also, I want to give a shoutout to Stefan a.k.a. History Hustle, a Dutch History Teacher/RU-vidr who did some fact-checking for these Indo series. He has some great content on Indonesia on his channel as well, make sure to check it out! -> ru-vid.com/show-UCYLJ8hULBTjTTmJZGL-dq-A Cheers, Joram *RULES OF CONDUCT* STAY CIVIL AND POLITE we will delete any comments with personal insults, or attacks. AVOID PARTISAN POLITICS AS FAR AS YOU CAN we reserve the right to cut off vitriolic debates. HATE SPEECH IN ANY DIRECTION will lead to a ban. RACISM, XENOPHOBIA, OR SLAMMING OF MINORITIES will lead to an immediate ban. PARTISAN REVISIONISM, ESPECIALLY HOLOCAUST AND HOLODOMOR DENIAL will lead to an immediate ban.

This is university level quality, with cited sources, backstories, and no bias. All for free.

I hate to be the generic indonesian commenter here, but i want to express my sincere gratitude on you for covering this topic (which is very rarely done by youtube channels like you). As an indonesian student, we study our fight for independence to no end, presumably to strengthen our nationalism. However, I had no way of telling the accuracy of the things they teach us at school as you can tell that they overglorify our side of history and we rarely hear of the hideous things that happened on our part. So once again, thank you for providing a new perspective on the independence of my nation!

"Incidental excesses" I'll add that to the list of other great terms like "enhanced interrogation" and "extraordinary rendition"

You guys are going above and beyond on this Indonesian War of Independence, the quality is superb, congrats.

I've gone from a Russian guy making hot dogs to gameplay of a goblin warlord slaughtering a dwarf king to an independently made documentary about Dutch war crimes in Indonesia. RU-vid is best platform

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My grandfather served in Indonesia from 1946 to 1949 mostly on Java. He was suppose to serve there for half a year and had to stay for 3 years. He was conscripted into the army right after WW2. He served in 4th Regiment Huzaren van Boreel. He hardly ever spoke about it. I didn't even know about it when until i was in my late teens! He hated war with an unhealthy passion. During WW2 the neighborhood he lived in, in the town of Doesburg was mostly spared, but he already had his fair share of what war was like, only to be conscripted into a war he never wanted to be a part of. It changed him, making him into a life long pessimist. He didn't like the dutch royals. He was under the impression that he was fighting there to protect the royal financial assets and protecting the locals was not on the agenda. The only few things he told us was, some of the officers he served under did even more gruesome things than the rebels they where fighting and that he lost some of his friends. But in general, when we asked about what hes been through, he always had the same answer: It was too horrible to talk about it. He went to his regimental reunion once, only to be confronted very same officers that he despised and having their wife's with them praising their husbands military achievements to high heaven. Schools back when I was young where also very good about not educating us about what happened in Indonesia. It's a bloodstain on our history and they wanted to make us forget. I'm still proud of what our little country has achieved historically but, I never loose sight of the cost of it all! Edit: The irony of it all that is we Dutch faced the same type of occupation by the Spanish 300 years earlier and had to fight for our independence as well! I guess the later generations didn't learn from that.

In September a Dutch motion picture will be released, named DE OOST (The East) about the Indonesian War of Independence.

Another Indonesian War of Independence special, another special tie-and-jacket combo. 4.5/5

I swear,Indy must secretly be a MI6 agent with the good looking suits and ties.

The Indonesians had seen the Asian Japanese humiliate the Dutch and other Westerners. The spell was broken and they sensed weakness. No matter how much strength the Dutch showed, the Indonesians still sensed the weakness. The prewar tactics that allowed a few Westerners to control millions of Asians no longer work. This was the Japanese accomplishment in spite of their losing the war. Their initial successes excited colonial populations and made them ungovernable.

By sanitizing language, one sanitizes thought. Thank you for not downplaying the events of the conflict.

US : "hey there buddy what are you doing now?" Dutch : "oh nothing, just sending 100.000 troops to my colony for 'police action'" US : "YOU WHAT?"

"Just following orders." "It just happens." I've heard that before.

It is shocking to me (a Dutch student) how every history book that i've learned from in high school years ago failed to include one word on this horrible chapter in our history. Several chapters and pages were devoted to the Dutch suffering under German occupation. None on the slaugther of thousands of Indonesian men women and children. Its sad to see that we are framed into believing that the Dutch were always 'on the good side'. Unfortunately, our history is filled with atrocities, oppression and enslavement. I feel ashamed that this horrific chapter is swept under the rug. It's time for a sincere deep apology and acknowlegdment of the Dutch atrocities that were conducted.

After Linggarjati, Indonesia was in the brink on civil war, between radical and pragmatic factions in republic, but Netherlands heavy handed actions unified them. My grandfather, a former TNI intelligence officer during this period said that many Dutch soldiers were former Waffen-SS units, forced to fight in Indonesia to cleanse their treason, explained their brutal tactic.

The turk was actually Greek/dutch since his father was dutch and his mother greek. But it's true he was born in turkey

Dutch: "If we capture Yogyakarta, the Indonesian republic will surely fall!" Indo: *laughs in Bukittinggi* Interestingly, the mobile guerrilla tactic is still TNI's national defense doctrine. TNI is only expected to hold on long enough to activate local resistance groups, after which they'd go to ground and join the guerrillas (which is made much easier by the fact that most TNI soldiers are stationed not far from where they grew up. We inherited KNIL's territorial garrison army structure I think). It's quite amusing that after 60+ years of independence, some things stay the same.

After the war and when the Indonesian born Dutch arrived in The Netherlands they disliked the cold winter weather. They have never seen or lived in snow. Many later emigrated to sunny Australia.

many of Indonesian audience see this video as good historical lesson, even better than their history class. I agree, because in our history class.. there are much disscusing about things happened in conference tables, and little about what actually happened in the field. only battle of Surabaya & Yogyakarta are majorly discussed with little few narration.

Another great episode! This year there has also been a Dutch show called "Onze jongens op Java" where they interview veterans of this war, Dutch veterans that is, and they tell about their experience. Don't think there are english subs but it is interesting to hear their accounts, some rather descriptive of what they encountered.

Many see the Dutch as laid back people, but in war and imbedded racial hatred, anyone can become a monster. It has to be remembered, that Holland had the greatest number of card holding Nazis outside of Germany and many of these Nazis ended up in South Africa, or joining the Dutch Army after World War 2.

"police action" the Dutch said while arresting Indonesian officials and brutally executing the people by the Dutch army after appearing as hitler's "victim" in the european war *SO DISGUSTING*

"incidental excesses" I need to find a way to put this into my daily vocabulary.

As an Indonesian and a great fan of The Great War channel, it is amazing for me to hear and see someone like Indy to talk about my country's history. Wow, what a great pleasure and honor.

the fact that the Dutch still believed to be able to "recolonize" Indonesia, after the proklamasi 17 August 1945, is unbelievable. The Zeit Geist was clear, no more colony, and this after the Dutch has been just colonized by the Germans. We were united, the whole area was united, the majority wanted Republic of Indonesia. No federation what so ever, under any local kingdoms or loose connection to the Dutch was wanted. Sure there was some unlawful killing happening, and it was wrong and had to be dealt with. Just go back to the Netherlands and evacuate those Dutch persons in Indonesia, was enough. Useless 4 years of war.

One of the reasons the Dutch hold tightly to Indonesia is the fact that there were substantial white settler population of around 250,000 in 1940. In some cities like Bandung or Malang, the white population reached up to 25% of total population. Compare to the British who never had more than 100,000 Brits on the ground to rule over India. With much smaller Netherlands population, the presence of large white community in Indonesia should be felt even more.

As a Dutch person myself I wonder why it was so hard for the goverment to admit that we comitted atrocities in Indonesia and to apologise so long after these events happend.

I have got to admit that this was not an easy episode to watch, but nonetheless has to be told to fully understand the whole situation here. The Dutch may have thought that using the pre-war ways of pacification masked as "police actions" might work again as in the past, but in a post war, Cold War environment setting, this was highly unlikely to work well with international support against such actions. Indeed, this does have some foreshadowing for what the French, and later the Americans might do in Vietnam in the near future...

I'm a Filipino and I had interest in Indonesian history, especially the Indonesian war of independence. This video is really informative and straight forward. Thanks TG! 🇵🇭🇮🇩

Oktober 30th 1947 my uncle writes in his diary about his departure with the ship "Nieuwe Holland" from Amsterdam. He is part of the "1st recon squadron of the 2nd regiment of the Huzaren van Boreel". He writes "just outside of the piers of IJmuiden starts the open North Sea, it is getting dark, you feel the soft roling of the waves, the lighthouse sends out an enormous beam of light. Suddenly I hear a guy shout "I want off the ship" ... he hangs by the deck's railing ... "I refuse to go" he shouts. Others pull him back onto the deck and I think of the thousands of soldiers of the past who left their homelands like we do now. At least there are no hostile subs." On November the 28th they disembark at Tandjong-Priok, Java, and that evening he writes looking back on the 30 days at sea: "I often enjoyed the beautiful sunsets, or Moon in the night, alone or with others. It's a pity that not everyone enjoys that. But I also had moments where you find plenty incomprehensible and difficult. Why this and why that?I often connect that with God and faith, probably due to my upbringing and His 'guidance'. Versnel (one of his mates) knows all this with quite some certainty but I ... I can't see through all that. There is so much that is hypocritical and contradictory. Perhaps it is better not to think about it ... I just don't get it figured out. December the 24th, stationed in Tjileungsi, he writes how their patrol picks up 3 "rampokkers" with TNI papers. They deliver them to an improvised KNIL jail. December the 26th he reports the three prisoners have 'disappeared' ... "two underground and one in a 'kali'.".

As indonesian i say thank you for making this video. Our indepence isn't come easy

So...basically this whole situation was one big mess. However, as a Dutch guy I appreciate this series greatly. I have to admit, during my education, not much attention - if any at all! - was spent on this period of history. Of course everyone *knew* that "things" happened in Indonesia after the war. But mostly, it was not really talked about. The only thing I remember from the 70's and 80's is that in our village, a large number of people from the Moluccans lived. I've always been told this had something to do with them choosing not to live in Indonesia, and wanting their own nation state. So they had the option to move to The Netherlands when Indonesia became independent. That was about the extent of what we knew. Anyway, once again, thanks so much for your continued effort to tell the tales of history in a neutral manner. Can't say this enough. These stories need to be told and remembered. Not to blame, but so that we can learn, and build a better future. Heading over to become a Patreon supporter right now!

The quality is superb and almost no youtuber mention this war. Thank you so much for make this video!

I'm dutch and in middle school we learn all about the second world war and the first even. How people fought for our freedom. We had lessons about colonialism (the majority about WW2) but only one lesson about Indonesia and they called it police actions in the books. My teacher luckily described a slightly more realistic picture of what that was all about. If we celebrate freedom and the resistance of nazi rule we should also recognize that we fought wars of oppression our selves. History cannot change by only showing a romanticized picture but and denying any wrongdoings. I Learned but not from school and that I find is a shame for not all my class mates were so into history. I found a news article some years ago saying they didn't want to teach about Indonesia at all anymore. Erase it from the history books. I find it a shame that my country is to afraid to own up to their actions for that is country I can be proud of, saying that happened and lets never let that happen again.

2:54 Westerling was not of Turkish decent, he lived in Istanbul from his youth till he joined the free Dutch forces in WWII

I am a Dutch citizen in my 40's and I had seriously no idea of the extent of the violence and attrocities that were done by the Dutch militairy. I feel shocked, sad and ashamed hearing about this. It also helps me to understand a few things as the grandson of a soldier who fought there. I hope you will also get into the subject of the Indonesians who fought on the Dutch side and immigrated to the Netherlands after the war was over and how they were treated by the Dutch. Anyways, super interesting stuff, I am gleud to the screen every episode.

"just following orders" right just like that hanged SS officer overthere

"police actions" Us Indonesians call it "military aggression"

Great stuff! One comment: Raymond Westerling was not of Turkish descent. He was Dutch-Greek, but was born in Istanbul. He did speak Turkish (as well as Greek and French) and, coincidentally, barely any Dutch until later on.

How to cover up warcrimes? Just call it an "isolated incident"

Have you guys ever wonder, how many of the comments just commenting on Indy's suits and/or ties

I stumbled across this in my boredom, and now I cant stop thinking about the "Westerling Way Incident". My mother's side of the family came from Makassar and at that time my grandpa was around 3 years old and he was of a dutch descendant. He once told me that at that time he and his siblings had to hide under the bed while shots fired around in his house. I cant stop thinking about how much of my ancestors were affected or possibly killed in this incident. But anyeays, thank you for making such an informative video, it mustve taken a lot of effort to produce them

Sad to see such an important war be so often forgot about. Good thing we have the swagist historian around to set things right.

How to Contribute on this video by giving subtitles? I'm originated from Indonesia and for me this video series of Indonesian Independence War is straight to the fact unlike History books thst our government had been wrote. I wanna give this video series a Subtitles in Indonesia so that my fellow student mates of Indonesia that doesnt comprehend with English, could access the information of this video, Thanks and Terima Kasih Mr. Indy Neidell & Team 🙏🏽

I’m Dutch and part Indonesian. My Indonesian grandfather fought for the Dutch in the KNIL. Great content need to be talked about more. Even in the Netherlands

Spoiler for next episode: Communist Stalinist (Musso) vs Socialist (Tan Malaka) vs Nationalist Republican (Soekarno-Soedirman) vs Islamist (Kartosuwiryo) vs Imperial Dutch (Spoor)

can't wait for the next part to come. it's confusing how some dutch said in the comments that indonesia need to apologize too? like wtf bruh? your grand father and your great grand father have done something unforgivable to their great grand father for 300 years. and then they came back after what they have done just to take their freedom again? and you ask why they don't apologize too? some ppl clearly lost their mind to the virus

Dear Time Ghost crew, thank you for one of the most unbiased reviews of this conflict I have come across up until now (as a dutchman). Keep up the good work! I don't know if this tip is worthwhile for you guys, but the Dutch book 'Soldaat in Indonesië, 1945-1950: getuigenissen van een oorlog aan de verkeerde kant van de geschiedenis' from Gert Oostindie, Ireen Hoogenboom en Jonathan Verwey contains many witness accounts of the violence as the writers study these to try and pinpoint where what happened violence wise (spoiler, they fail to 'quantify' the violence, as many accounts are from memoires e.d. and thus later written, unlike diaries)

Thank you so much for your time and effort to make this! Both my grandfathers fought in this war. One was in the Royal Dutch Indian Army (KNIL) and the other one was sent from the Netherlands by boat. The first one came over here with his family after the war and served in the army his entire life. The last one is still alive. He is 92 now. I do feel like this conflict is not talked about much, not even in Dutch schools.

Thank you for telling us a story of the indonesian independance. Came to watch for lunch. End up hooked to the rest of the story. Will watch the rest of the series.

Food for thought. The image that is given here of the "police action" is a guerilla and counter guerilla war with no limits. The over all image is that it was the Dutch that were the bad guys only because they had been the bad guys since the 17th century over there. This is not my understanding of that situation over there. Both elements were constantly intertwined. Restoring order means to ask "which order"? The Dutch were quite aware that the period of colonization came to an end. What was tried, was to defend the order that was envisaged. This also meant that for the time being, the Netherlands was responsible for law and order (the old order until the new came). That was not reflecting what the Indonesians wanted, although that was not clear at the time. Even a truce by the UN meant that the killing everywhere went on. The most basic order was not even there. It was complete chaos from day one with a lot of resentment fed by the Japanese (and rightly so! I am not defending colonialism here). It would have been better to give it all up and go home, probably (as Nidell says) let Indonesia fight their own wars to determine their future. I think it would have broken up. So I do think that the image painted here is a bit biased towards "anti colonialism". I am anti colonialism, but the situation over there was far more complicated. I wish it was only the question of colonialism or not. It had that aspect, sure. But it had many more aspects that are not well explained here. Like who to talk to as Dutch representives. Who can keep their word? Who are willing to and able? Who are willing to and unable? Most were unable (willing or unwilling). What to do when nobody is able to see through agreements and the killing intensifies? Very difficult. And yes many (like the USA) sat on a high horse and condemned. Vietnam was yet to come. The war in Indonesia was a combination of the future French and American positions in Vietnam condensed in just a few years. Both conflicts had different enablers. But both had the same chaos and atrocities (on both sides).

Kudos! I'm glad that someone is reporting on this war from a neutral perspective. Thank you.

My father in law worked for the Dutch government before the war, so when Indonesian independence came he fled to the Netherlands. He took his wife and two children with him and built a new life there and his wife even gave him another child: a daughter. That daughter grew up to become my wife of nearly forty years. A few years ago, we went to Indonesia with our daughter , just for her to see "her real country". What surprised me most is that within a few weeks I saw my daughter turn into a true "indo", but when I suggested we go again, she said no. It made me think of what my Dutch grandfather said, many years ago, about the Indonesians: "you'll never understand them".

Thanks for the coverage Indie - this is an obscure part of history needing some illumination.

Indonesia is such a beautiful place. The Garden of Eden, if I do say so myself. I have spoken to many people who have got to be the most loving, yet tough people I have ever had the pleasure of knowing. And I have never stepped foot on the Indonesian soil. I just converse with them. "...And you fall in love with an idea of humanity. You see it happening when death rolls down the mountain. And the seas become very anxious, sleeking away to only return with the snap of ones neck, it comes in waves. They're gone. And yet I remain. " -A survivor's Testimony after Banda Aceh Boxing Day Tsunami

Tie and jacket combo does rival the one from two weeks ago, content is still awesome keep it up!

Thank you for this comprehensive well researched program. My late father was in underground against the Japanese, a student leader during the war of Independence against the Dutch this and then in the RMS before imprisonment by the new Republic. He provided a great analysis of the political complexity and shifting alliances within the independence movements often with graphic examples of the suffering experienced and inflicted by all parties. He would have loved your series and l would have loved to watch it with him, as he added an insider's details and back stories. Thank you so much.

Thank you for making this informative documentary that is rarely understood outside Indonesia in such detail and with local perspectives. Also, you chose a very cool narrator, with an awesome jacket.

Thank you for making this Indy!, I wish you and the crews stay healthy!!

The U.S. after they see the Dutch committing war crimes: "Wait, that's illegal."

Thank you for another great video on the Indonesian War of Independence. I really look forward to these little known stories.

Funny how Australia & India objected to what the Dutch were doing in Indonesia via the UN. In the film footage, Dutch special forces soldiers are carrying Australian made Owen SMG's. Cold War politics were in play here as there were so many different sides during the independence. It could have went better but the Dutch wanted their colony back & the individual Indonesian groups were scrambling for power by whatever needs. Great series & hats off to the brilliant TimeGhost team for explaining something that shouldn't have badly gone wrong in the first place.

Blue suits today... May 4th, remembrance day as Joram already mentioned. Lest we forget. Not that it's a blue Monday or anything, au contraire. This is another quite impressive episode of this series; with a nice blue suit today (or at least a very nice blue jacket). Keep up the good work!

I would say this is Dutch version of Vietnam War or French Indochina War, Indonesia was lucky unlike other countries post WWII that they managed to proclaim independence 3 days after the Japanese capitulated in August 14th 1945, in the eyes of the UN, USA and others saw the Dutch recolonization attempt of Indonesia as unjustified war since Indonesia is technically independent and free from European recolonization, the US had a hard decolonization policy post WWII and they even threatened the Dutch to pull the Marshall Plan aid to Netherlands if they continue the war. So countries like Vietnam and others who didn't manage to proclaim independence before the European powers get their forces back to claim their lost colonies during WWII, so the US couldn't back the decolonization efforts effectively since the European powers like for example France would threaten the US to leave the West and approach the Soviet Union if the US wouldn't let France recolonize Indochina.

please make a part 4 and continue Indonesia's story. Really enjoying these videos!

Very informative

Saying Westerling was of Turkish descent is misleading. He was of Dutch/Greek descent, but his family lived in Istanbul.

Dutch: so now that the peace deal has been signed, are we going to have peace? Indonesians: yes, but actualy no.

Captain Westerling was NOT of Turkish descent.His father was Dutch and his mother was Greek.His only connection to Turkey,was being born there.

This is fantastic, the details, the sources and the unbiased explanation that you gave to us is so good! I felt like I'm being in a college class 😁

Excellent. This exemplifies how story telling should be. Bleak subjects require lively delivery.

While as a Dutchman these videos do feel a bit hard to watch at times, I am nonetheless thankful that this dark part of our history is being told as objectively as possible

Your way of explaining our struggle is amazing keep going and keep making more of this amazing content !!

My grandfather fought with the dutch marines in indonesia, he told me a story about how two men didn't return from sentry duty half an hour after they should have. They found them an hour later naked with their throats cut, their personal belongings and uniforms looted and their genitals gone. They had around 40 POW's in their encampment and they killed two of them that night. The captain reported this "incident" the next morning to his CO. He listed it as an act of self defense al he said: " an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth." My grandfather continued to serve in Korea an eventually passed away in 2018 at the age of 98. Until his death he was haunted by severe PTSD. I am not trying to defend the dutch soldiers during this period but i just wanted to share this story.

Itu memang sudah menjadi kecongkakan pemerintah kerajaan Belanda, Mendoktrin para pemuda belanda seakan-akan membebaskan Hindia dari Jepang dan eksrimis..bila dicermati mereka ini orang-orang yang "terpaksa" berperang, Akhir perang mereka trauma bahkan ada yang gila. Kesempatan Belanda untuk merengkuh Hindia-belanda sebagai bawahan sudah sirna semenjak penolakan Petisi Soetardjo.

The Dutch military still acted well in most occasions, a lot of vaccinations, safety and food were brought to the country while the conflict lasted. Please bear in mind that a lot of the excesses were an answer to the way guerilla warfare was conducted and most of the drafted Dutch soldiers had no idea what they where facing and would ultimately be there for 3 years in most cases. Everybody would have had enough at one point. There's no discussion in how our men should be remembered, 95% deserves every sort of honour men should get for trying to carry out an impossible mission. Every veteran I've spoken to states that he should never have been deployed in the first place but branding 150.000 men as being wrong and bad is not right. The only people that should be accused of being so is Dutch politics for failing in every way and sending 18 year olds to the other side of the world with minimal training and equipment to a place they had no understanding of. Well, that's my piece of mind.

Very good and informative.

I have a good friend whose mother and grandparents were Dutch colonial settlers in Indonesia and were put in camps by the Japanese. Her mother later married an Indonesian man of Chinese ancestry. (Sort of like the boat people of Vietnam). It’s a Complicated situation

I was...amazed. Let me tell you my opinions: not all of Indonesians 'over glorifying' about the history. I said this, because my late grandma and grandpa was actually veterans. But they don't want to called themselves like that, because they don't deserve any of it and they know they will be over glorifying the history that they're not proud of. By the way, both my grandpa and grandma work for RRI (Radio Republik Indonesia. In English, 'Indonesian Republic Radio') when Sukarno proclaim the independence of Indonesia. They ALWAYS work to give the recent situations to Indonesian people of our fight for independence. But, their life was harsh (I can't tell you the details, because I don't know how harsh it is). I just wanted to say thank you for making the series, because now I know what my late grandpa and grandma had been through on those days

As a Buginese from South Sulawesi, the Westerling Massacre always be a rather grim history, and there is a monument here in relation to that particular event. This reminds me of the whole Andi matter back then as well (Andi is a special calling for nobles here). Supposedly, old Buginese and Makassarese nobles in South Sulawesi have never use the Andi calling in their name (i.e Andi Ari Putra) to signify their nobility. If I'm not wrongly remember, it was first being introduced by the Dutch East Indie government to call the educated part of the nobles here and to garner support from the local nobles and in return providing several benefits for them from the bestowing of said calling. While my family is of Buginese nobles, my grandfather and most of my big family refused to use the calling. Some did used it, but only a few to "remind us of family history". Am not too clear of the real reason, but I think it was because my grandfather's generation was pro-independence.

I love your practical explaining of history.

I’m happy that a topic that has never been covered before (at least to me) is now being taught. Great job as always

Ironic, the Dutch suffered under German occupation and then oppress the Indonesians.

In those years... from my family stories passed to generations. It was great missery for all. Some of my family was in the Queen service and other was stood for Republican cause. King Willem visit last March 2020 was a good closing for the bitter chapter in the bilateral relation and I hope Indo and NL can resume good friendship and learn from the past from those years of turmoil in 1945 - 1949.

I really thoroughly enjoyed this video! I just found out about the channel btw, I'm glad youtube recommend this to me lol

The Dutch who had experienced bitterness as a result of the Nazi occupation had to do the same to Indonesia on behalf of the queen. even so the behavior of the dutch soldiers is worse than the waffen SS

But let's be honest. Americans make the Dutch and British Empire look like boy scouts. Americans are responsible for the death of millions in Jakarta and Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos. Every single American civilian should be forced marched into [ Indonesia, East Timor, Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia ] to see the damaged their tax paying dollars did to these innocent people. The amount of ordnance dropped on Laos between 1964 and 1973, according to Legacies of War, an advocacy and education group. This amounts to a planeload of bombs every eight minutes, 24 hours per day, for nine years. Henry Kissinger was far too evil for the Nazi regime. So he moved to the United States regime. Again, we ask the question that the main stream media has NEVER asked and answered. Who is Henry Kissinger that he could be a top advisor to Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barrack Obama, and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton? What kind of position does he hold that he was an advisor to all these presidents, plus countless lesser politicians-year after year-both Democrat and Republican?

Please talk about the Philippine 1896 revolution and its effects in the region. And also about the Philippine-American war of 1899 And the affects of it in the rising nationalism in asia

This series is incredible. As someone who grew up in Indonesia, but never had much information on the Revolution that wasn't either the Indonesian overly glorified version or the Dutch just ignoring it, this is just so fascinating.

Darkly humorous note: 'Westerling' is literally Dutch for 'Westerner' As in 'person from the west' By the way, as a Dutchman myself: Far too little is commonly known about the Idonesian War of Independence here in the modern-day Netherlands While it is commonly known that the Dutch did bad things in the name of 'police action', I think most people know very little of the details. To take myself as example, I'd heard the name 'Sukarno' before, but I couldn't have told you who he was and all the other names are new to me. Very happy to be abe to learn more about this underexposed part of history, and my massive thanks to the TimeGhost team for being both informative and engaging as always. Also, I'd like to mention that my grandfather grew up on the Idonesian island of Java, (his parents owned a plantation so yes, my family was very much part of the oppressive colonial system), so I've always felt a sort of personal connection to Indonesia that I can't really put in to words. Best I can say about it is that Idonesia feels like a part of my personal history, even though I haven't been there yet. (Very much on my to-do list) The fact that it took till 2020 for the Dutch government to officially apologize for the violence committed by it's troops is a disgrace, in my opinion, and should have been done much, much earlier.

A new neighbourhood in Amsterdam will get street names named after Indonesians: Soewardi (aka Ki Hadjar Dewantara), Tan Malaka, Diponegoro, Pattimura and Soekaesih (pretty unknown female prisoner of the Boven-Digoel prison camp who published a brochure named 'Indonesia, a police state'. This will be on the newly constructed Centrumeiland in the IJburg neighbourhood. There have been discussions why Soekarno is not one of the streets and the thing is that it's seen as sensitive among the KNIL-veterans and some Indo-Dutch. Also, in Indonesia Tan Malaka in Indonesia itself isn't as revered. (sorry for copying this from the previous video, but I just want share it with as many people)

The Indonesian War of Independence Part4: "1947: From Indonesian Boy to Murderer - 'Freedom fighting' "?

Very interesting coverage on a very obscure topic. How could the Dutch (having suffered under the Nazis) do the same to Indonesians?

I love learning about history from you guys! Thank you for another awesome video!

If this happened in isolation, an argument might be made, however weak, that the Dutch were just victims of their time. But that this occurred just after the Nazis had occupied them and they inflict racist oppression on others, makes the Dutch worse than Nazis. Yet the world still cries over the poor innocent lowland victims of Germany.

_In Indonesia, the military offensive (Operation Product) is more commonly known in history books and military records as Agresi Militer Belanda I (First Dutch Military Aggression)._

The colonized are never viewed as humans. It's only when the colonizers are defeated and expelled. That's the reality.

Terima kasih atas penjelasan tentang Indonesia tuan. Mereka atau mati. Sekali merdeka tetap merdeka