Those 302 would rev so high stock it would scare the shit out of ya.That's when the fun starts to happen! Those solid lifters and dual quads really let that 302 breathe
They did...but needed a 4.56 or 4.88 to come alive on thest. A crossram 3.73 Z was an absolute dog on the street was never more disappointed. COuld hardly spin the tires...car made ZERO torque. Gears headers a good tune they woke up big time.
Had a early '68 (FEB) and it was loaded. Had every option except spoilers. JL8 brakes. Got it in early '74 from Courtesy Chev in LA CAL. The only thing l changed was the shifter. I got a Hurst out of a "69 Camaro. A set of Hookers to the stock exaust and it was mild til I l put my foot into it. I usually never got out of 3rd because it had 373's in the 12bolt. It ran like a scalded dog. Never had a small block that ran so good. I drove it across the US on three occasions going to various USMC bases. '69/'85. Passed everything but gas stations. Beautiful. The '69 was nice but the '68 brought along large journal crank even though it was a 2 bolt main. RUNNER !!
@@gordocarbo You HAD to wind up those little 302's to get any power out of them. They were NOT designed for low end torque. With the camshaft profile they left the factory with, they were pure dogs below 3,000 RPM, but pulled like hell from around 3,500 RPM all the way to 7,000+ RPM. NOT a burnout or drag car. Pure road racer.
Beautiful Z/28. Seems to be way more dual quad, 4 wheel disc chambered exhaust 69's than were originally sold. All good if the correct parts are retro fitted. I bought a garnet red 69 Z in 1970 when I was a senior in high school. Kept it 21 years. It sounded great with Hedman Hustler racing headers and the original transverse muffler with the resonators removed. The dz 302s are a very special and unique engine.
@@robertjackson5411 The chambered exhaust was a fairly common option. A high school classmate of mine had it on his '69 Z. The cross ram/2 four and 4 wheel disc brake options were MUCH more rare. These days about half the '69 Z/28s for sale have both. I hope the sellers are up front about originality.
Lots of clones unfortunately with hyd. cams to boot which is lame. USed to restore these cars for a living....a legit 302 or L89 wtih chambered exh is pure music. Uncle bought a new 68Z, blue n white. Id bother him to start it every time he came over, bugged him, irritated my parents lol. Traded it for a new orange shorty Dodge Van in the 70s when that craze came out broke my heart.
@@gordocarbo Even more lame is when someone puts a POS slushbox in them instead of the 4 speed. Maybe I'm just old and grumpy, but I get annoyed every time I see a first gen Camaro with Z/28 badges only to see an automatic trans shifter between the front seats because such a car doesn't deserve to wear those badges.
Original Crossram's were not an option in 68 or 69. They were available over the counter as a " heavy duty" part. Today, there are 100's of reproduction setups available. Real setups are very rare and should be authenticated by Jerry MacNeish. Same for lj8 break system, only a couple hundred were ever produced.
What makes me love that car and that sound is… when I was 10 years old in 1973 my brother had a lamans blue with white stripes 69z28 houndstooth interior and I remember riding in it I remember that sound … he got killed on a motorcycle June 10th 1973 and my dad sold it to my cousin for 1200.00 dollars yeah twelve hundred dollars… man I wish I had one just like it… this video brought back a lot of memories… thanks buddy…
When I was 16, I stopped to look at a 68 camaro for sale. The guy was selling it because he had just gotten a 69 Z28, crossram 302 with a 4 speed. It was silver with black stripes and is still one of my favorite cars I've ever seen. Never got to hear that one. Couldn't afford the 68 either. I had a 68 Nova at the time. It was back in the early 90s. Thanks for adding a glorious sound to my memories.
Back then prices started shooting up. BY late 90s I could no longer afford any Camaro had to restore my Camino. These cars are so overpriced its not even funny.
George, you've got great taste in automobiles. My high school football coach let me borrow his '69 base RS/SS 4-sp Camaro to go to the senior prom back in 1969. He made me come back right after the dance and dinner and change back into my 57 vw sunroof before the party got started. MAN! Fun night and good memories. 😊
I used to love to show people that doubted that fact with my 302 and they would freak out when I bang shifted thru the gears sideways in my 67 Chevy ll SS with 4:11 gears and close ratio muncie trans.Found the motor on the shelf in a salvage yard with 39,000 miles!
I understand it’s a prize possession and worth a lot of money and you don’t wanna break it but for those who weren’t even born in 69 they haven’t a clue as to what the capability is of this car, so just putt puttin around you really don’t get the full affect …. hopefully one day you’ll make a video to where your right foot is all the way to the floor between shifts so we can really see what this car was built for. Love these old Z/28’s
Brings back memories of my ‘69 Z. Service package cam 4.56 gears it would get it done.$1500 car back when I had it. We bought and sold them with no thought they could have been a retirement supplement someday.
Nice car!!! I added power steering to my 4 speed Chevelle and it's so much more enjoyable to drive. One hand on the shifter and one on the steering wheel is the way to go
Beautiful card Mr Lyons. You said early on why don't you take a ride for me you meant to say why don't you take a ride with me God bless your car God bless you
The 400 small block fire bird mad my legs shake too just like my KZ 900 did. I wish we could all go back to them DAYS.!!! THE WORLD WOULD B A BETTER PLACE
Cars today may be faster, but I grew up with these types of cars, the ones that actually increased your blood pressure! Great video, 1st gen z's are the best
I love the sound of a strong V8 with chambered exhaust and 4spd. It's the sound of my youth. Just put fresh Doug's tri-Y headers on my 345cid '78 Scout engine with Thrush Turbo Tubes on 2-1/4" inch pipes. Sounds incredible considering IHC V8's redline at 3800rpms. Tourqe monsters.
Perfect classic sound of the 70s and 80s. To this day, love headers, turbos n turndowns. Getting rid of my Dynomax ultraflows and putting on 20-22inch long super turbos that will dump at the axle.
lucky you!!!! BEAUTIFUL PEACE OF ART!!! I DON'T HAVE PICTURES OF MY EX WIFE !!!BUT I HAVE 8 LAMINATED PICTURES OF MY 1968 Z 28 SHOULD OF KEPT THE CAR ABOVE ALL.
There was one in the trunk that I saw on the final line at the Van Nuys plant. Along with the cross ram manifold and Holly quad carb there was also a set of headers. Don’t know if they were planted or not, but there was no one watching.
@@geraldhawkins773 my dad told me about his uncles 69 z28 hugger Orange / white stripes. Had the headers from the factory in the trunk along with other parts as well
I want to build a 302 for my 66 Chevelle but people are telling me to build something with more cubic inches but I like the idea of a high rpm engine. I already have a high rpm 427 that I enjoy.
you might consider an aluminum flywheel. I had one in my Big Block Nova and believe me it would rev like a hot small block. Eventually the flywheel got hot spots on it and the steel ring gear had some missing teeth. Hated to replace it but did with a hi po McLeod unit to match the new McLeod clutch. she don’t zing now like she used to!
I used to work with an older guy that was into the drag racing scene back in the muscle car days, he always had Big Block Chevys, 427 Tri Power Vette, he always said, the Bigger it is, the Faster it'll go ! I drag raced Ford 351 Clevelands for years while ago, they were High RPM screamers, then i went the Big Block Ford route, 460, then Stroked 521, the Bigger Engines have Way more Power down low, that really pushes you into the seat, that's really hard to beat, but i Will always love to hear a Cleveland turning well over 7500 rpms. I'd rather the Cubic Inches. My car always went quicker with the bigger engine.
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 I already have a big engine with my 427 big block so I’d like to try a 302 or 283 small block Chevy just for fun to replace the stock 195 horse 283 in my 1966 Chevelle. You are right about the big engines. I went from a 230 6 cylinder to my 427. It was great.
@@patfromamboy Go for it! Use compression on these..a good cyl head and plenty of gear. 4.56 is ideal for these they rock n roll! Or do a clone...400 block. You can use, for a 302 a 350 4 bolt main block to save expense then go get the 302 crank way easier and bulletproof
For once I'd like to see a road test that doesn't start out in a neighborhood and actually shows what the car can do. Nice car man but seriously, a cross ram riding around town is not what it's meant to do.
WHat gear does it have out back? 55 at 3rd gear.... One first gen Camaro I never had...the 69 Z28 had rs, ss, 70z but nevfer the 69. Happy to see it being driven, not lugged or hear the "oh gee its too nice Im afriad to drive it" . Drives me up the wall. ALl the more reason to drive it often as possible. We are only alive so long..life is too short to drive boring cars.
I have driven a 'normal' Z28 original car. Did not excite me, a torquless thing. Homolgation car with a 3.7 diff. Yours sounded alot healthier. I have driven a Boss 302 also. Surprisingly nicer but still no torque, though with those 4V heads I know why. The factory close ratio Muncie and Hurst shift are so nice. I used them in my roadracecar which in the end was near 600hp [and weighed 900 kilo] With all the semi period mods it just lasted, new second gear regularly though
A stock one wouldnt turn 10,000 rpm. They only pulled to 6500 rpm. Assembly line tolerances and factory balancing made for short life even at 6500 rpm.
@@dannymccarty344 , I have never seen a factory stock 69 DZ 302 , so you are probably right , I have a Factory 68 small block 307 which is a 327 crank and a 283 block , but it needs rebuilt , My built 327 with 12:1 Forged pistons and Forged Steel Vette crank can Rev to the moon , 11,000rpm before the valves start to float , The 283 can Rev even higher , Again Built and not stock
The MO 302,used in the 67-68 Z28 used a small journal,2bolt main, 327 block and a forged steel 283 crankshaft. The DZ 302 used a 4 bolt main block, large journal forged steel crankshaft, that was unique to the DZ 302 only.
@@hk45c62 First ride was a 67 rs..or so I thought. Tore it down to change cams and noticed the piston #, MO on the deck and figured it couldnt be a 302 cause it didnt say DZ...always wondered if I had the real mccoy
Great looking car. When I was a young man back in the late 80's I knew a guy with this same car and 2x4bbl set up on his 302. I had a 67 SS 396 Camaro that I had bought with a small block in it. I bought a 327 340 hp engine from a 62 Corvette and I replaced the duntov 097 solid lifter cam in the 327 with a big Comp cams hydraulic cam. I put that 327 in that 67 SS with a 4 speed and I would run all over that 302 with the 2x4bbl. Whupped him
I have owned neither but have ridden in both our friends at google seem to support what I say they show the 69 at 14.8 and the 1970 at 13.9 so in the quarter that’s considerable
I have owned neither but have ridden in both our friends at google seem to support what I say they show the 69 at 14.8 and the 1970 at 13.9 so in the quarter that’s considerable
I have owned neither but have ridden in both our friends at google seem to support what I say they show the 69 at 14.8 and the 1970 at 13.9 so in the quarter that’s considerable
I have owned neither but have ridden in both our friends at google seem to support what I say they show the 69 at 14.8 and the 1970 at 13.9 so in the quarter that’s considerable
