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1969 Fiat 850 Sport Coupe - The Ferrari For The People 

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@michaelbacon561
@michaelbacon561 5 месяцев назад
This must be one of the prettiest cars ever - why don't they make anything like this anymore? Ever so stylish without being aggressive.
@timonsolus
@timonsolus 5 месяцев назад
Fantastic little car - except on safety (none), and possibly fuel economy (aero, high revs).
@rockmountainfitness6962
@rockmountainfitness6962 5 месяцев назад
My Dad had an 850 Sport (rhd) in the early 70s, in Glasgow. It was used for the primary school run with 3-4 kids in the back frequently; my Dad also drove our family of 4, "enthusiastically". He had slept in for a cricket match and drove at 90mph on a 70 mile journey arriving in time to open the bowling. My Mum spent the day drinking G&T to recover. My sister & I were oblivious and happily played Top Trumps in the back seat. Happy Days.
@pepitosbazzeguti1073
@pepitosbazzeguti1073 4 месяца назад
90mph on an 850 must have been quite an achievement 😂 It was all or nothing!
@rockmountainfitness6962
@rockmountainfitness6962 4 месяца назад
@@pepitosbazzeguti1073 that was 2 adults, 2 children - my sister and I aged 12 &10 .... And my dad's cricket kit in the boot at the front...... Which we reckon balanced out the weight 😁😁
@avion195
@avion195 3 месяца назад
OMG 90 mph. I remember seeing 100 on my 1972 convertible, who knows if the speedo was telling the truth. The valves were floating wildly and it was way way past redline, but the engine on that car was solid.
@stefanbadass5357
@stefanbadass5357 5 месяцев назад
What a joyous car! Coming to this after watching St Harry review a 650BHP BMW M2, the contrast is stark. On the one hand we have a butt-ugly ego pumper which you will never be able to use approaching its full potential, and here we have a beautiful gem of a car which you could use all day every day. Wring its neck and you will still keep your license. Bravo!
@Treviscoe
@Treviscoe 4 месяца назад
Well said.
@gvxclassics
@gvxclassics 5 месяцев назад
I had 5-10 Fiats and Abarths, one 600 and the rest 850's and loved them all. Wish I had them back. The engine is indeed a jewel. You can carry the complete engine in one hand by its exhaust system, and install the engine with a floor jack. Great car for young mechanics. Simple. Even my wife liked them.
@studiocalder818
@studiocalder818 5 месяцев назад
Nice comment
@jantanghe821
@jantanghe821 4 месяца назад
My first car ! 🥰 In 1970 my girl friend and I drove with that car from Belgium to Pisa, Italy. We gave it a name : Dolly. In 1972 we married and when there was a baby in 1973, the car became too small and I sold it, which I regret. But the wife I still have. ❤️ And the baby is now 51 and lives near Pisa. ❤️
@avion195
@avion195 3 месяца назад
The '67 red 850 convertible was my first car. Everything after was always compared to that first Fiat.
@mohmoudfarah1897
@mohmoudfarah1897 4 месяца назад
My father owned a White one like this when I was growing up, and I remember he used to rev high all the time. What great times these were! ❤️
@kaboombox1581
@kaboombox1581 5 месяцев назад
The smile on Jack’s face! Small, light, slow car fun!
@quahog9180
@quahog9180 5 месяцев назад
Someone in my town, Dartmouth, MA, had one of these in the early 70s. We played together, me in my 67 Karmann Ghia, one some of the local backroads, I couldn’t shake him when I was in front, and visa versa. We swapped cars for 15 minutes or so. The Fiat was much more of a sporty drive than my KG.
@BEGGARWOOD1
@BEGGARWOOD1 5 месяцев назад
Is there a happier RU-vidr than lovely Jack ?
@free_gold4467
@free_gold4467 4 месяца назад
That's a little jewel, love these small, lightweight old cars. The Italians made some beauties.
@coldlakealta4043
@coldlakealta4043 5 месяцев назад
I had the Fiat 850 Spyder - fragile, rusty and absolutely marvelous. The handling was incredible and the sounds were soul-satisfying.
@boulevardbricks508
@boulevardbricks508 5 месяцев назад
Me too - it was the Sport Spyder with the HUGE 903cc motor. Too much fun, and it even handled great in the snow. So many unusual things about the car...the centrifugal oil filter, the transverse leaf front suspension, the way the top assembled, etc. Used to gap the points with a matchbook cover and it ran perfectly. Would love to find one again!
@Robert-e4q8g
@Robert-e4q8g 5 месяцев назад
I had a 850 Spider too. Great fun!
@scottrippon5039
@scottrippon5039 5 месяцев назад
Hi Jack. Well.....if you're depressed or have had a shitty day. here's the tonic! What a peach. Just lovely. Gorgeous little car......why can't we buy cars like this now? Cheers S
@rob5944
@rob5944 5 месяцев назад
Yes, it's very stylish and elegant. I've no idea why they can't put the pedals in front of the driver though, I like plenty of room around the clutch pedal, yet on many cars that seems too much to ask for some reason.
@alastairward2774
@alastairward2774 4 месяца назад
You can get cars like this today, but you need to make concessions, style, safety, cost, can you have something that ticks all boxes?
@rob5944
@rob5944 4 месяца назад
@@alastairward2774 style, and cost? Yes cars are a lot safer, but people over really on it I'm sure. You can increase safety greatly by simply not driving like a complete bell.
@jeremystevenson9503
@jeremystevenson9503 4 месяца назад
The pedals are offset because of the proximity of the front wheel wells to the footwells. There literally is no room to have the pedals straight ahead. It is impossible to sell, and thus manufacture cars like this now at least partially due to their total inability to pass modern collision safety standards. Look on RU-vid for crash testing of similar cars eg. Simca 1000. Scary to watch.
@rob5944
@rob5944 4 месяца назад
@@jeremystevenson9503 that's a great answer, I should of thought about it more, probably something I knew and forgot, if that makes sense. I had an MX-5 NC 2.0 and never liked the driving position, too crampt and not enough power.
@MrCarrera28
@MrCarrera28 5 месяцев назад
Jack the way that you describe a car's dynamics and handling is getting to be really amazing, you have a great turn of phrase describing technical capability without losing those of us who are completely non technical. Combined with your passion for all things automotive you are delivering output that is superb.
@Number27
@Number27 5 месяцев назад
SO kind, thank you so much for sticking with the channel as well!!
@megapangolin1093
@megapangolin1093 5 месяцев назад
This is real motoring, you engage with the car, the road and the terrain, and every mile is a joy. There is nothing anodyne about this car, or others of its day. You listened to the engine and everything else to ensure that everything was working properly. The only way to drive. Most only drive 20 miles or so a day, no problem for a car like this. Great car, great video. K Ghia was alwful to drive. Go for an Isetta next...
@TonyHiggins
@TonyHiggins 5 месяцев назад
There's something to be said for a car that has low power but great handling. I absolutely loved my '81 FIAT X1/9 - it had (barely) 75 HP stock, but that wasn't the point. Its incredible handling, especially when given 60-series tires instead of the 80s it came with, meant that I almost never had to slow for a corner. Instead, I could throw the thing into the curve, relying on the mid-engine balance to let me carry speed instead of scrubbing it off - and so the SOHC could come out of the corner high into its best revs. After a bit of modification, the power went up but was never world-beating. It was still one of the most fun cars I have ever owned, or even driven. The closest I have some were my 1991 Isuzu Impulse XS (Lotus suspension!) and my current 2013 Boxster S with Sport Chrono package (mind-blowingly great).
@MrShadownoise
@MrShadownoise 4 месяца назад
Hah, I knew someone who had an X1/9. He thought it most unfair that many took the snooty attitude that it was a hairdresser's car. He was also a very fast driver and motorcyle enduro competitor in the Expert class. He insisted he show me how unfair the X1/9's reputation was c/o a brief hooligan drive around Surrey. The culmination of which was about 20 laps of the Ripley roundabout with him laughing and screaming 'see, it's not bad is it! hahhahaha...' It was ridiculously good, lap after lap on the edge of grip, and me thinking nervous thoughts about how maybe it was possible to roll a low sportscar after all.
@gerrymccarthy9568
@gerrymccarthy9568 5 месяцев назад
My dad rented one, once, when his car was in the repair shop. I think it was 1968. I thought, as a young lad that it looked super-cool. Thanks for the memories.
@beaufighter245
@beaufighter245 5 месяцев назад
1982, I was given a mustard yellow RHD by my girlfriend's father. A non runner, needed a little settling but, I didn't appreciate at the time what I had been given. My daily driver, a daimler sovereign, was the comfortable place to be and the little fiat was left unattended. A few years later, time had taken its toll and I ended up scrapping it. Such a shame and something I regret but, at the time I did not realise or appreciate what a little gem it was.
@marcelhandsome6042
@marcelhandsome6042 5 месяцев назад
I feel the same way I had a 1984 Fiat Uno 70S 4-door wish I never sold it impossible to buy one in the UK now can only find them in Italy. A real feel-good car that was so much fun to drive! and had Giorgetto Giugiaro's design.
@martinclapton2724
@martinclapton2724 5 месяцев назад
Arguably the prettiest of the 850 coupes , the Mk1 had just single lights , but the twin lights with the slightly smaller inner lights really do set it off. The Mk3 , they switched to larger inner lights which made it look a bit goggle - eyed. Only the Italians could offer such chic styling with a budget car . Fantastic .
@alexshepherd
@alexshepherd 2 месяца назад
Yes - the inner lights were called fog lights in the video but they’re actually main beams. Perhaps it was set up that way with the intention of an upgrade to halogen bulbs (even though it was sold with tungsten bulbs) - I think early halogens were single-filament only, so it would have made sense to have main beams in separate light units
@alastairwatson3201
@alastairwatson3201 5 месяцев назад
We had one, bought brand new, in the early 1970s. You were right about the rear seat; my younger brother and I struggled to fit when I was 7 and he was 5 but we loved it, anyway. Just a great car!
@DavidMcBeth-xv9lq
@DavidMcBeth-xv9lq 4 месяца назад
I had one of these 1981-1995. Was a great car and although FE2o3 was starting to eat it away I sold it to a guy who was going to restore it with his son. Putting something under the bonnet improved front end grip no end. I used a bag of sand. After my 128SL it would be a favourite. Great review Jack.
@michaelp8838
@michaelp8838 4 месяца назад
I loved my 850 sports coupe but found it so hard in the early 80s to get parts so I regrettably sold it , today with the internet it's a lot easier to keep old cars on the road , I wish we had the internet back then
@Robert-e4q8g
@Robert-e4q8g 5 месяцев назад
Great car from when Fiat made great, interesting, and fun cars. In the early 1970s in the US, I owned a Fiat 850 Spider which was wonderful fun. Please do a video about the 850 Spider. Later I replaced it with a Fiat 128 because I needed a back seat, which was a remarkable design and wonderful car. Please do a video on that car too. Then, I was a great fan of Fiats - I wish those days when Fiat was great would return!
@paulscountrygarage9180
@paulscountrygarage9180 5 месяцев назад
I had two friends, here in Australia, that both had 850 coupes and both in light blue with brown interior. I used to drive both. This was the late 1970’s. We had both engines out and did major work to them and the drove them again. Fantastic little cars.
@pd4165
@pd4165 4 месяца назад
My mum had one of these when we lived in Rome in the 70s. It was heroic. 50ish brake was sufficient for the time - my only complaint, as a large child, was that the rear seat was cramped. Shotgun was the place to be because mum would let you change gear (when she wasn't on one. She was on one a lot). I had a Cinquecento Sporting in the 90s - 55 BHP in a light body. It wasn't fast in outright terms but it was a complete riot - 'never lift'. In the 70's an 850 Sport must have been hilarious.
@jwmart250
@jwmart250 4 месяца назад
My first car was a red 1971 850 Sport Coupe. My father took me shopping for my first car when I was 17. I had a 1971 Suzuki TS 125 and a few hundred dollars. We drove straight to Charlie Williams Import. I had no idea where my father was taking me. The car was brand new sitting in a tiny showroom. I couldn’t believe when he asked me if I would pay him back if he loaned me the money for the car. I said yes I would. I helped lift the car so we could turn it toward the door. The only experience shifting was with motorcycles and a short spin in the Shawnee Mission North parking lot in my friend’s VW. I drove the car home and took pictures of it. I loved that car. It was great around KC but not geared or powerful enough for the highway. I hit the 6400 rpm redline going about 75 down hill on I35. I put headers on it with a glass pack muffler. It sounded amazing. The motor was 903 cc’s but very smooth and peppy. First gear was so short people were always almost running into me as I got underway. My mother would give me $3 and I’d drive around all day with my buddies. I was too young to own that car and didn’t take care of it like I should have. I haven’t seen one since 1976 when my sister bought a well used one, red and toasted from the Tucson sun. She abandoned her Sport Coupe when there was a problem and said I could have it. I started the engine and heard the rod knock. I had just arrived in Tucson with my 1971 Norton 750 Hi Rider. It was an easy decision to stay with the Norton. I never had as much fun driving a car.
@FarmerDrew
@FarmerDrew 5 месяцев назад
You can throw it around the cloverleaf without chirping the tires at 100 km an hour, that's the best fun
@paulspink2701
@paulspink2701 5 месяцев назад
Saw this very car in Witney outside our pub the other night. We also have an 850 and couldn’t believe it. This one is a really lovely example 👌🏼 Glad you enjoyed it.. they really are jewels and wonderful to drive around the Cotswolds 👍🏼
@catherinelange5109
@catherinelange5109 5 месяцев назад
Ha, wondered 😊if you’d spot the video
@johnvender
@johnvender 5 месяцев назад
A friend owned both a series 1 and a series 2. Great tiny cars. The headers and the little Weber made the engine look like a miniature racing engine. In 1968 they got a 903 cc engine and 52 horsepower and those could get to a bit over 90 mph which in those felt like well over 120 mph :)
@snakeplissken5480
@snakeplissken5480 5 месяцев назад
standard 52 bhp from an 850 in 1969 is really quite a lot
@FarmerDrew
@FarmerDrew 5 месяцев назад
My Dad put the Abarth exhaust on his and with a better carb, it made about 60! 🎉😂
@MilosBrajkovic-rc3ik
@MilosBrajkovic-rc3ik 5 месяцев назад
​@@FarmerDrew Wise man!
@kidoctane
@kidoctane 5 месяцев назад
Actually the later Series 2 had the big 900cc motor......just like mine first car
@snakeplissken5480
@snakeplissken5480 5 месяцев назад
@@kidoctane big lol my harley is 1750
@SubToDanielPro
@SubToDanielPro 5 месяцев назад
903cc
@FrogFranker
@FrogFranker 5 месяцев назад
I had a Fiat 850 in the early 1980s. Such a fun car to drive, loved to rev that engine, once we were camping and had to run through kms of thick mud via back roads to get back to the highway. The 850 just went through the mud like a 4x4 as the light weight meant it didn't stop. Other heavy 4x4 Land Rovers just slid into the ditches. If we wanted to take some larger item home we would slide the passenger seat off its seat rails for a temp spacious cabin. This 850 was a far better car than our classic mini...the 850 had much larger wheels. Yes one adult would sit sideways on the back seat. The electrics were always not working so I would roll start it on some occasions. The 850 would make an excellent goldilocks restoration project.
@marcelhandsome6042
@marcelhandsome6042 5 месяцев назад
This car exemplifies just how great class-leading FIAT was for small cars like LANCIA of course Fiat is still great nowadays e.g. 500e by modern standards but the gap has narrowed considerably between rivals but that era was very special under the chairman Gianni Agnelli including Giorgetto Giugiaro in the 1980s that can never be replicated. This car also reminds me of another great small Fiat of the 1970s the 128 Sport Coupe.
@alexshepherd
@alexshepherd 4 месяца назад
My first car was a 128 Sport Coupe, similar appeal to the 850 Coupe which it replaced in the lineup. Couldn’t agree more with you, FIAT made brilliant cars over the years - engines that were the best in class for the 60s and 70s, but I think the others caught up some time in the 90s. The charm and good quality (yes really!) of the 2007-onwards 500 built in Poland probably saved the company after a difficult time. It would be nice to see the small sporty 2-dr coupe come back as an option in the market currently dominated by mini-SUVs and pickup trucks. The current-day 500e (we have one) is off the pace compared to other new EVs - even the older Nissan Leaf beats it for handling, power, efficiency, leaving FIAT to sell only on style now. The Turin factory assembles the 500e with technology bought-in from elsewhere (battery from Samsung, motor from GKN etc.), making it expensive and giving it a poorly-harmonised feel (the only EV that doesn’t drive smoothly; driveline shunt and grabby drum brakes). Sad for a company that once led the way in research, development, and production, with rolls of steel going in one end of the factory, and cars rolling out the other. They should never have sold Magneti Marelli, I’m sure their expertise in motors and electronics would come in handy about now!
@robertdemeny251
@robertdemeny251 5 месяцев назад
A friend of mine had one. The big brother of another friend of mine, had one. That gave me the opportunity to "investigate" this lovely little coupe. I fully understand the smile on his face.
@domtoni4567
@domtoni4567 5 месяцев назад
The 850 Coupe was an uncle's dream car, he had a little song that he sang as we drove around the mountains in Reggio Emilia, Ottocento cinquanta coupe, ottocento cinquanta coupe. He replaced his 750 Fiat some years later with a Panda.
@christianlebracq1956
@christianlebracq1956 4 месяца назад
I was lucky enough to have one of these as my first car in March 1975, same colour and that was a 1969 model. Years later I worked for Fiat, and I had a 850 special, 127,124S, and a 128. Great fun to drive and with their own characteristics , which are no longer found in today's cars.
@johndauria-v8b
@johndauria-v8b 5 месяцев назад
If ever a car deserved a set of tailored coco mats. Thanks for the video - your enthusiasm for Italian cars is a joy!
@Monkeynervepete
@Monkeynervepete 5 месяцев назад
My first car when I passed my test in 1980! Absolutely loved it! I pulled up after driving it in the rain and heard that tick tick coming from the front. "Ah, that'd be the engine cooling......hang on, the engine's behind me!"...... I was listening to the front battery compartment rusting! The battery dropped out soon after! 😂 Had quite a bit of welding done to keep it going, but eventually had to scrap it. 😢 It was a wonderful, fun little car. It cost £50. I'd love another now, but the missus would kill me! 😂
@gerrywarren2625
@gerrywarren2625 5 месяцев назад
My first car in 1978, in white with a red interior and RHD. I think my later version had a slightly bigger engine - 903cc - but still called 850 Sport. It had a bit of flair compared to the British stuff. Made an 18-year-old feel special. I sold it to buy a Triumph GT6 MkII. Wish I still owned both!
@g.klages
@g.klages 5 месяцев назад
So lovely to see this wonderful littel car again. I have restored one in the Late 80s for my dad. It was a Kind of orange colour and we got it from the first owner. Had to replace the hole front and many other parts and my dad drove it for a couple of years. It was a nice little beast. Thank you so much for showing is this nice little italian car!
@petertoms7005
@petertoms7005 5 месяцев назад
My first car in 1985 in NZ! Same colour, i still remember the smell of the interior, LOVED driving it, exactly as you describe. I learned a lot about car repairs....
@napraznicul
@napraznicul 5 месяцев назад
A time-machine which started nostalgia in many of your viewers, me included. I would stay in it just to bring back from memories lovely moments and emotions and smell and feel of those beautiful past times :)
@iwebman1
@iwebman1 4 месяца назад
I owned one just like this as a young man. It really was a lot of fun to drive, and just as pretty in person. I have to say, though, that driving it every day in Los Angeles freeway traffic was kind of terrifying! It felt very, very small indeed on those roads surrounded by all of that big 1970's Detroit iron.
@michaelbarlow3686
@michaelbarlow3686 5 месяцев назад
Wonderful to watch. My Mother had one of these OLB730E following an 850 Special NRD738G as she was a bit of a petrolhead. I passed my driving test in OLB730E in 1971. It was obviously a series 1 as there were no foglights and it was a RHD. I had driving lessons in a standard 850 and Fiats were catching on in our neighbourhood my Father had a 125 and the neighbour opposite had a 132. The local Fiat dealership in Reading of that era was RCR of Shinfield. Thanks for a great video.
@terrymurphy2637
@terrymurphy2637 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Jack & the owner of the Fiat.Brought back some great memories. Had a Red 1966 Series 1.Bought @ 29000 miles in Toronto for $300 in 1969 due to rust holes on top of the front fenders already . Wonderful fun car. I've been looking for one ever since but @ least in Canada NO SURVIVORS : (.
@Michael_Lorenson
@Michael_Lorenson 5 месяцев назад
The interior reminds me very much of my 1972 FIAT Spider. That was such a cool little car, when it worked properly, which was not often. But I loved it and think I'd probably enjoy having another one, today. With an additional 40 years of automotive technical and mechanical experience, I believe I _could_ now keep it functioning perfectly well - most of the time. Sadly, most of them dissolved into piles of rust, long ago.
@helmuthhaass3631
@helmuthhaass3631 4 месяца назад
I have driven one in the 1970's and it definitely put a smile on my face.
@csillagzoltan660
@csillagzoltan660 5 месяцев назад
In the 90's we had a white saloon as family car. Loved that, too, and always wished for a coupe. This version was also included in the service manual.
@john-pierre1908
@john-pierre1908 5 месяцев назад
Brings back memories, my bestfriend had one of these in the late 80's. 3 of us travelled from the Isle of wight to London in it. I occupied the back seat for the journey. She flew on the motoway !
@wollaminfaetter
@wollaminfaetter 5 месяцев назад
My grandmother drove one of these, and she kept as a baby for many years. in 84 she sadly died, and I got to keep it. Drove it for a couple of years, but it was too far gone, and at the time it was just a silly LITTLE car. I enjoyed it but the girls laughed at my funny little car - witch btw was was rather rare in Denmark!
@gaufrid1956
@gaufrid1956 5 месяцев назад
You even got the four round taillights that Ferrari usually had! What a delightful little car!
@dungbetel
@dungbetel 5 месяцев назад
Simple engineering that did the job. My dad bought a blue one new in 1969 (TVF437G) from a Fiat garage in Norfolk. He'd wanted a Capri 1600 GT XLR but the waiting list was just too long. It's surprising how nippy that thing was. Did hundreds of miles in it in Uk and on the continent. A bit buzzy at speed, but surprisingly comfortable even as a passenger. Great review, thanks!
@smitthone
@smitthone 5 месяцев назад
Those round rear lights from the standard 850 were those same used by ferrari sportcars and lots of others.
@adriaandeleeuw8339
@adriaandeleeuw8339 5 месяцев назад
My mother Co drove one from Melbourne to Perth in the late sixties, when the Nullabor Plain was still dirt for hundreds of miles.
@E.T.GARAGE
@E.T.GARAGE 5 месяцев назад
I had one back in the 1970's when I was a teenager, it was one of the most fun cars I ever had.
@pan68
@pan68 5 месяцев назад
Fantastic little car! My brother in law had the sedan version in the seventies and he drove it like crazy. Sweet memories.
@truthboomertruthbomber5125
@truthboomertruthbomber5125 5 месяцев назад
Abarth took the series 1 850 coupes and installed the 1197cc pushrod 124 engine. He bored the block out to 1300cc, installed timing gears to change the crankshaft rotation and installed a 3.70 rear gear set to replace the 4.88 . Of course the radiator was moved to the front of the car behind a nice looking grille. 5.5 inch rims and performance tires and lowered suspension. The result was the 1300/124 ( 1324 in Europe I believe). A fantastic tiny GT car capable of effortless high speed cruising and with the capability to humble much more expensive cars when the road got twisty.
@ciaranburke3243
@ciaranburke3243 5 месяцев назад
Sweet little car jack as a teenager in the 80s i owned a little 600 always loved the fact its was 4 cylinder water cooled 😂
@federicomalignani4957
@federicomalignani4957 5 месяцев назад
Beautiful little berlinetta,this car was very popular in Italy.They sold a lot of them because it was nice,easy and fun to drive and was also extremely reliable,with low manteinance costs and low fuel consumption. A kind of little Porsche 911,with the sound of a real sports car,often enhanced fitting a twin pipe Abarth exhaust. Also Skoda had something similar,the 110 R with an air cooled 1.1 litre 4 cylinder engine,50 bhp,that was not fast as this Fiat. After came the 128 Sport with 1.1 or 1.3 litre engines,front wheel drive. The world was slowly changing....
@beatglauser9444
@beatglauser9444 5 месяцев назад
I always LOVED those Coupes. But when I started driving in the late Seventies they were already getting very rare. They were Beauties indeed and my first Fiat 127 had the same engine that could hardly be killed, I had only 45 hp in the 127. What killed those cute cars was rust. A painter in our body shop got one for free. It had been tuned quite a bit with Abarth parts. I specially recall that it had four tiny exhaust tubes. Very happily he drove it and raced home with it for having lunch. When they put it on our lift after he returned and checked underneath they realized that he had been lucky that he had not dropped the engine or lost a wheel. There was hardly any metal left to hold it together. That was 45 years ago and they dumped the car right away. Nowadays you would surely save the engine and a lot of parts from the vehicle.
@richardgarofalo7982
@richardgarofalo7982 5 месяцев назад
Thanks, Jack. You brought back memories of our '69 850 shared from new with my 4 brothers. Bright Mediterranean Blue. What fun!
@Michael_Lorenson
@Michael_Lorenson 5 месяцев назад
A word on the feeling Jack describes as the tall front tires 'rolling over' in the corners. Most cars designed prior to the mid-late 1970s (more or less) were intended to use 'bias-ply' tires, which have much stiffer sidewalls than 'radial-ply' tires (given equal sidewall height). Consequently, those cars employed less 'negative camber' in their suspension geometry. I think this accounts for that sensation, and also contributes to what is often a general feeling of 'skittishness' or 'squirminess' in older cars running on modern tires.
@alexshepherd
@alexshepherd 2 месяца назад
Sidewall flex can probably be mitigated by running extra-load tyres as sold for trailers, not sure what it would do to the ride quality, but the springing and damping is pretty soft so should be ok These have a 5” wheel rim so I think 165 is optimal tyre width (the later FWD FIATs were only a 4.5” rim/145 or 155 tyre) The front geometry on an 850 is weird because of short upper links and the transverse leaf being a long lower link. It actually goes to positive camber on compression, negative camber when extended - basically the opposite of what you’d expect. The fix for this by Abarth back in period was a lower crossmember with shorter links to match the upper links better. That has been remade today and can be fitted if desired. Personally I’d leave it standard, it’s part of the charm, and work around it with a suitable tyre choice bearing in mind the good point you made
@philzvids3577
@philzvids3577 5 месяцев назад
I saw one of these at a classic car show. Really nice looking car.
@tolrem
@tolrem 5 месяцев назад
These were very popular here in NZ in the 70's even though they attracted a tariff of 45%.A schoolfriend's parents owned an orange one which he brought round to show me once.I was very impressed at the time.I think the engine capacity was actually 903cc if I remember correctly:probably quite fast for the time.They've all long sinced rusted away now sadly.The FIAT 124 Sport was also very popular here.Great styling.
@alexshepherd
@alexshepherd 4 месяца назад
Some (many?) of the series-II (four headlights/taillights) were assembled in NZ, I think to avoid that tariff (it’s before my time) - seems this made the rust even worse. You’re correct about the 903cc engine - only the series-I (two headlights/taillights) had the 843cc. I’m lucky to have a relatively good one (in a horrible Austin Allegro avocado colour typical of the Otahuhu assembly plant) but it still needs fairly extensive repairs, even to chassis parts that don’t seem to have been lined up properly before welding. I do wonder if I should keep the original horrible colour, as it’s obviously unique to a few of the NZ-assembled cars. Otherwise, I’d paint it dark red like the one in the video and others in NZ
@rocklover7437
@rocklover7437 5 месяцев назад
Served my time on these pretty little cars .There is a famous drag racing Fiat coupe that ran a racing big cc VW flat four .
@williamegler8771
@williamegler8771 5 месяцев назад
I am viewing this from the United States. Our neighbor growing up was the daughter of an industrialist who early in the century became a supplier to the US auto industry. His company supplied hinges door and trunk locks. When he died his daughter inherited the business and she then sold it. She traveled the world for several years and when she returned to the United States she brought a blue Fiat 850 Coupe that she had purchased in Rome and driven extensively in Europe back with her. I used to see her driving it all over the place with her black and white standard poodles riding with her. In her later years, she became rather famous for restoring American Classics and entering them in the Great American Race but she never got rid of her little Fiat. When she passed away it was sold in an estate auction and exported to Switzerland.
@wolfie030
@wolfie030 5 месяцев назад
I can confirm children' fitted on the rear seats, I was one when my grandmother owned an 850 coupe in dark blue :).
@gt-lv3zo
@gt-lv3zo 5 месяцев назад
A family member had one back in the early 70's which i drove a few times and it was terrific. One of my most memorable driving experiences - was disappointed when i arrived at my destination and had to get out. Ditto with a Ritmo in the 90's. Couldn't say the same about subsequent Fiats tho'.
@gsigs
@gsigs 5 месяцев назад
I remember seeing just one of these here in the US. The Spyder was much more popular. If there is a one word description for these it is clearly "adorable."
@MurrayMaffra
@MurrayMaffra 5 месяцев назад
We had a series one and a series two in the family when I was a kid (in Australia) and I spent a lot of miles on that back seat. Learnt to drive in my aunt's 850 saloon and dad's 124 coupe.
@petermillecento4906
@petermillecento4906 5 месяцев назад
I now the feeling. I did todat a trip with my '74 127 and i got that smile on my face.
@dghackett58
@dghackett58 5 месяцев назад
I nearly passed on this video but then I see that you Jack was covering it. Love your honest enthusiasm. Great video and lovely little car. Wouldn't it be nice if we could go back and have just enough power instead of acres and acres of which we can't use and mostly can't handle. 👌
@thatcheapguy525
@thatcheapguy525 5 месяцев назад
cute lovely little car. I was so lucky to have worked on the odd one of these back in the day before they rapidly disolved. our closest equivalent was probably the Sunbeam Stiletto.
@troynewton5833
@troynewton5833 5 месяцев назад
Love it. Light, simple and delicately styled. The antithesis of modern cars.
@theronwolf3296
@theronwolf3296 4 месяца назад
My brother bought one new. That was a wicked little car with a sort of usable back seat. Once he had to take some family friends somewhere and really old lady wound up riding in the back seat.
@dce324
@dce324 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for showing off this great car, Jack! You showed how much fun they really are to drive!
@grandtrousers
@grandtrousers 5 месяцев назад
Not the best idea to announce that you are speeding on a single lane carriageway (110 km/h = 65 mph) 🤣 Glad you enjoyed the drive as much as we enjoyed your video 👍
@georgebettiol8338
@georgebettiol8338 5 месяцев назад
Based on my experience with the Fiat 850, the indicated 110km/h is very optimistic.
@grandtrousers
@grandtrousers 5 месяцев назад
That may be the case but by actually stating you are doing an indicated speed can render you liable for prosecution - regardless of your opinion on the accuracy of the speedometer. Just trying to help.
@georgebettiol8338
@georgebettiol8338 5 месяцев назад
@@grandtrousers At 3:24, his actaul words were: "it's doing an indicated 110km/h now and I think that is probably optimistic". In Australia, the likelihood of such a prosecution being successful is extremely low.
@grandtrousers
@grandtrousers 5 месяцев назад
Unfortunately in the UK it's not. It is too easy to be prosecuted and you have to prove that you weren't actually speeding after you have admitted to it on social media. Definitely not trying to be a buzz kill.
@pazooter
@pazooter 4 месяца назад
Lovely! I am reminded of a gymkhana race sponsored by the Corvette Club held at the Indianapolis Raceway Park in 1969. To their chagrin, the fastest time of the day? A Fiat 850 (with a little help from Abarth). My 124 Coupe didn't do as well.
@c.klotzbucher4034
@c.klotzbucher4034 5 месяцев назад
Erinnert mich an meine Jugend, meine Mutter hatte zwei davon, in gelb und genau in diesem rot. Natürlich mit Kopftuch auf im Tennisoutfit und großer Sonnenbrille 😍…und aus dem Radio trällert Umberto Tozzi mit Gloria ❤❤❤
@charrogate
@charrogate 4 месяца назад
My second car in 1975 was this one tuned up in green with beige interior. I did a circuit tour of northern Europe with a great shot being ⛴️ ferry offloaded by crane at 🇳🇴 Kristiansand. It did a ton on the 🇩🇪 Autobahns no sweat. Afrer twenty months of mild Atlantic maritime climate, rust killed it at its MoT☹️
@NenadTrajkovic
@NenadTrajkovic 5 месяцев назад
In Yugoslavia, we tuned the Zastava 750 (the Yugoslav version of the Fiat 600) with parts from a crashed 850 coupe from Italy... happy days
@TheMachSR7
@TheMachSR7 5 месяцев назад
My dad had one of these Coupe's here in New Zealand in the early to mid-1970s in BRG (or the Fiat equivalent) as our second car. I think it was a 1969 model, but definitely a S2. It was a great little car that I learned to drive in about 1973. I remember doing 90mph at one point (makes me quake in fear to think of that today)! It was screaming at the red line but it didn't miss a beat. Wouldn't have wanted to go round corners at that speed but it was a lot of fun to travel in and was certainly better than the Toyota SR coupe that replaced it! Difference is that the Fiat will have rotted away by now while the Toyota will still be out there somewhere🙂
@terryroberts505
@terryroberts505 5 месяцев назад
Had a 1968 fiat 850 sport back in 1981 right hand drive rare car then. I was only 19 years old. Coming through London one night had a race with a mini copper he couldn't lose me great little car only thing was the tin worm it was rotten as a pear pity because it was such a pretty looking car
@robertjones7695
@robertjones7695 5 месяцев назад
I used to ride in the back of one of those in the late 60s, as a teenager. It was a bit cramped after a while but fine for an hour or so.
@sebastiend.5335
@sebastiend.5335 5 месяцев назад
So it's like the X1-9 of the era? Lovely little thing. Thanks Jack. Greetings from the Netherlands
@robertthomas3364
@robertthomas3364 5 месяцев назад
Back when that car was new, there were plentiful Abarth parts available to hop those engines up
@robertmaitland09
@robertmaitland09 5 месяцев назад
Small, light and thrashable, just how a sports car should be!
@grayfool
@grayfool 5 месяцев назад
A real jewel of a car. Fiat were so good with the smaller car. My favourite would be the 128. Just wonderful things.
@christianhenderson5471
@christianhenderson5471 5 месяцев назад
I had a red one LHD in the 80's which had a number of Abarth goodies on it, the shell was rotten, but the engine was a peach- it revved to 7k plus ( on a pushrod ohv!) which was madly noisy. I used to wear ear defenders or a helmet. I used to race Porsche 924 s and xr3 s . However, the handling was okay provided you didnt lift off on a corner as It was a hammer on a string when the rear let go! The fuel filler directly above the exhaust ( as well as the tank!) was an eye-opener
@davidpickard9393
@davidpickard9393 5 месяцев назад
I believe these Fiat 850 engines turned anti clockwise which made engine swaps interesting
@alexshepherd
@alexshepherd 4 месяца назад
Correct, the engine seems similar to other front-wheel-drive 903cc units but a few key parts (pistons, distributor, water pump, etc.) aren’t interchangeable because of the rotation direction. Fortunately there was a rear-engined model from Spain (SEAT 133) and Brazil (FIAT 133, I think) which stayed in production for some time with a similar engine
@loveisall5520
@loveisall5520 5 месяцев назад
I was a boy in high school here in Texas in 1969. We loved British sports cars and yes, the Karmann-Ghia was quite popular. But--in a state where one can drive from dawn to dusk and still not be across the state, FIAT cars were simply far too delicate. They never sold well here. Only in the Northeast US and Cali would one see these cars, where people didn't drive the same distances. Me? I'd have picked a Midget or Spitfire over any of the 850 variants. Great video! You pick some really beautiful roadway to film with your guest cars.
@michaelcope856
@michaelcope856 5 месяцев назад
I sold mine nearly thirty years ago, and wish I hadn't. This model is vanishingly rare in the UK in RHD, only 33 I believe in the UK when I owned mine.
@kevincarrucan5328
@kevincarrucan5328 4 месяца назад
Our Uncle Tom had one of these. A delightful little car.
@ivantuma7969
@ivantuma7969 4 месяца назад
I had a '71 and '73 850 Spider in the US (903cc engines)... if it wasn't for the propensity of the fuel tank to rust out and clog up the fuel filter ... they would have been awesome little cars. The sound of that little engine brings back memories of driving from south Denver up to Boulder, Colorado for classes at Colorado University. I had to get rid of the 71 because I couldn't afford to have the fuel tank replaced and it became unpredictable when it would just run out of fuel pressure due to clogging.
@trevorbrooks813
@trevorbrooks813 5 месяцев назад
My young auto-lust was strong for this one back in the day, top stuff 👍
@rolfsvensson5777
@rolfsvensson5777 5 месяцев назад
There was a time in history when Italy made the best cars? They did? Fun video!
@gileshalliwell3591
@gileshalliwell3591 5 месяцев назад
Next get hold of the 850 convertible! They are wonderful too! From the days when the Italians made some of the very best cars… Look how many won “Car of the Year”!
@Omegaman1969
@Omegaman1969 5 месяцев назад
Cars that you can scream to the limit in every gear are so much fun. Reminds me of my old Alfa Sud Ti 1.5
@stefbarone
@stefbarone 4 месяца назад
This little adorable car seems to give you bigger smiles than super powerful cars :)
@lesklower7281
@lesklower7281 5 месяцев назад
I remember these Fiat 850s when they were new and always wondered what they were like to drive but thanks to you l now know
@limyrob1383
@limyrob1383 4 месяца назад
Bought one of these off a mate for my then girlfriend. Paid £100 for it in 1981, brilliant car. Downside was he had rolled it up onto the drivers door handle the day after the MOT and it wasn't straight. I adjusted everything so it drove straight but of course it failed its MOT when the year ended and it got scrapped. Very rare, I don't think we ever saw another one.
@neilwalsh4058
@neilwalsh4058 5 месяцев назад
Beautiful little car and a great review that brought back some very happy memories. I had a 69 G-reg 850 Sport Coupe in Positano Giallo 2005 to 2009, a UK reg car RHD with 42k miles on her and absolutely loved the drive and the attention she got.
@RickRolling-tc7vb
@RickRolling-tc7vb 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Jack ,that brings some memories. I had a few of these when I first started working in a garage, early 80's. They didn't cope well with Australian summers or Aussie water and were at the end of their lives so they didn't last long. I remember that it was the first engine I ever rebuilt and the parts were incredibly cheap: I put in new pistons and bearings, and an exhaust on it for less than the cost of a single tail light for a Silver Shadow Series 1. I sold the engine to another garage because I had no good bodies to put it into, and they needed one for a customer: I learned from that to never fit anything unless you fit it properly, because I just spun the oil pressure sender in without tightening it, thinking I would get to that later. Of course it sprayed oil all over when it started up, made a right mess. Sorry Pat, did you dirty there...
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