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1970 Challenger RT vs 1971 AMC Hornet SC 360 | PURE STOCK DRAG RACE 

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1970 Dodge Challenger RT drag racing 1971 AMC Hornet SC 360. pure stock muscle car drag race. factory stock drag race.
Remember, both cars participate in the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race series, so please check out their website for the rules of this drag racing class: www.psmcdr.com
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@matthewcromwell1969
@matthewcromwell1969 Год назад
I took my driver's test to get my license in an AMC hornet. They were good little cars.
@bradleyphillips204
@bradleyphillips204 Год назад
I agree with you. I like the AMCs. Had a 68 javelin with the 232 straight 6. It obviously wasn't fast but back in the 90s got positive attention every place I went. The challenger was cool but that hornet was right on it. Great underdog car👍. I guess the sc360 was built to go up against the Nova and duster back in the day. You're video is five stars. Awesome job 👌
@timmotel5804
@timmotel5804 Год назад
Wow. I owned a 1970 440 Challenger RT/SE automatic. Great car. Thanks for posting rare and incredible AMC cars.
@b.nunn.2702
@b.nunn.2702 Год назад
Man, great tight racing there!!! Great matchup!!
@wilsonjames299
@wilsonjames299 Год назад
Great match. The challenger sure felt the sting of those matches ..thank you C..Z. another great video 2thumbs up.
@geraldlafleur7776
@geraldlafleur7776 Год назад
That mopar just kept getting faster and faster.. torque wins.
@charlesdalton985
@charlesdalton985 Год назад
Truly like both cars, but have to cheer for the underdog here. That Hornet did well, and of course those 440s are awesome. Thank you as always ~ Chuck. P.S. Dam near spit my drink out with the Live Laugh Love joke - brilliant!
@bw3506
@bw3506 Год назад
Burnouts sounded like clips from the OG Mad Max movie. LMAO. That Horny was making the 440 earn it on this one. Thanks for the vid!!
@XBobbyVegasX
@XBobbyVegasX Год назад
That Challenger got faster with every pull. Love these Hornets though regardless, quite rare machines.
@chrisnizer5702
@chrisnizer5702 Год назад
Those SC-360 AMC Hornets are the TIT'S! Thanks for showing them some well deserved love my friend, Semper Fidelis.
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras Год назад
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@davidmc1489
@davidmc1489 Год назад
Had a hornet....3rd owner....rusted away....but dang the AC was super cold and still worked when it went to the junk man
@mw4992
@mw4992 Год назад
My dad had a Hornet wagon, wood grain and all. Seems to me the max A/C setting said “Desert Use Only” or something like that! Had vacuum operated wipers which sucked (pun intended).
@karlepaul6632
@karlepaul6632 Год назад
Give the Hornet credit, it definitely had some balls.
@PoomanyPadayachee
@PoomanyPadayachee 2 месяца назад
I got 4 of these AMC Hornets sc 360 . What beautiful rides
@mr.iowegian
@mr.iowegian Год назад
Wow I did not expect the Hornet to even hang. Never liked AMCs when I was in high school, but have some respect now. In about 1982 a 70s AMX caught fire and burned-up in front of my house weirdly enough. I missed the first burnout in this video because I was looking at the gal in the shorts haha!
@chevyblue10
@chevyblue10 Год назад
Dang it. Now I've got to watch it again. My radar must be shorting out in my old age. I usually don't miss chics in shorts.
@davidbattaglia2336
@davidbattaglia2336 Год назад
Great race! Glad to see the humor working it’s way back in there! Keep ‘em coming!
@dukedavis8950
@dukedavis8950 Год назад
Both car are awesome super clean and fast consistent 13s that's great. I really love the hornet very cool car very rare 360 4 barrel posi and a 4 speed appsolutey love it. Great video thank you. 😊
@plap.
@plap. Год назад
Saw a lot of hornets back then. Even had a friend with a green six cylinder and he loved it. Notice I said he because friends opinions differ. Out of all those cars over all those years I never saw one with a 360. Rare and cool. Bet there aren't that many in this kind of shape either.
@Sumner1028
@Sumner1028 Год назад
I have my dad's SC 360 he handed down to me. There were only 784 made and I have one of em
@plap.
@plap. Год назад
@@Sumner1028 well damn that's pretty rare. So cool, great some do still exist because I bet it's not many now. Probably a lot more rare than originally built. Must be a hoot to drive
@Sumner1028
@Sumner1028 Год назад
@@plap. There is a registry for these cars and 129 are known to exist. Yes it's a hoot to drive alright. My dad turned it into a dragcar and I tried talking him out of pulling the interior and such. He didn't listen but now he wishes he did. The car is at my cousin's, so at least I know she is out of the elements. My dad's was actually this same blue and all of that. It's an automatic from the factory. Column shift. The car went 11s being AMC powered. Putting anything else in it would be blasphemy
@plap.
@plap. Год назад
@@Sumner1028 completely agree and 11s are nothing to sneeze at. I would even do some digging for interior stuff because the way things are going any car this rare and cool will always be loved. Its not always the most popular stuff that is a jem as time goes by. Part of why I like this channel is seeing some of the crazy stuff run. Reliving the past is more fun than what is happening in our future. no electric bs will get this kind of love
@Sumner1028
@Sumner1028 Год назад
@@plap. Brother at least you like it. What's sad is that in mint condition these cars go for 20grand. That's it. Which is fine but what a ridiculous price. AMC dared to be different and in doing so created a real cool car. I raced it and it was a blast having the mph of a low 11 high ten sec car while only running 11.50. My uncle built a awesome motor. It was all in the head work he did
@soyounoat
@soyounoat Год назад
Good example of weight advantage and HP advantage. With similar reaction times, the Hornet jumps ahead at the launch due to it's lighter weight. The Challenger's 440 with big HP overcomes the air resistance at high speed and pulls ahead. The overall races were very close, and this was a great matchup.
@enloealex
@enloealex Год назад
I get a kick out of the way you narrate when speaking of the cars and what equipment that they have in them. Funny stuff. Also, y’all have some very nice cars up there. Keep your videos coming. Great Job!!
@1563smb
@1563smb Год назад
That challenger is impressive because of it's weight
@JoeSmith-ey2xp
@JoeSmith-ey2xp Год назад
I love seeing cars like the hornet I had completely forgotten about.
@joshuacohn2004
@joshuacohn2004 Год назад
Great video sir!!!!
@kimmorrison9169
@kimmorrison9169 Год назад
Challenger top ends the AMC 2 out of 3 times but that AMC is an ultimate sleeper
@brucebryan4081
@brucebryan4081 Год назад
The 360 looks like it can punch above it's weight class,
@gt-37guy6
@gt-37guy6 Год назад
And that little Hornet is LIGHT....Cool car.
@sergeantmasson3669
@sergeantmasson3669 Год назад
@@gt-37guy6 Far less engine than the MOPAR.
@68dart
@68dart Год назад
Awesome , Thanks C&Z 😊
@danfriesen4417
@danfriesen4417 Год назад
That Challeger is making some good hp to run 109 mph at that weight 😳
@bdogjr7779
@bdogjr7779 Год назад
Awesome C&Z《☆》Challenger R/T mint green is sweet👍🔥🔊007 Bond Movie producers picked a 1974 AMC Hornet with a 6 cylinder engine to make the Corkscrew jump in the movie Man with the Golden Gun🖖😎☮
@gavinmclaren9416
@gavinmclaren9416 Год назад
Pretty sure it was an AMC Matador in that famous stunt in TMWTGG movie. Edit: I checked, it was a Hornet. My memory failed on this one.
@bdogjr7779
@bdogjr7779 Год назад
@@gavinmclaren9416 《☆》Actually both were in the movie but the Hornet was the one set up to do the corkscrew jump🖖😎☮
@foxtrotx-ray5283
@foxtrotx-ray5283 Год назад
Former (and Future) Javelin Owner here. Does my underdog heart good to see a Brother AMC doing that well against a Big Three competitor.. Missed an opportunity last year on a 4-door Hornet with a warmed up Dual Quad 390 with Auto Trans. Sleeper material if ever there was sleeper material...
@mickangio16
@mickangio16 Год назад
It was the early 1980s and my friend and I drove his '71 Duster to Great Lakes Dragaway to do some draggin'. It ran steady 13.60s. There was a guy with a Hornet there with a 3 speed stick. It was his first time at the track. The car was nothing special at all- just a typical beater, basically... except it ran in the 12s! Even the owner was completely surprised.
@shawnbauman5463
@shawnbauman5463 Год назад
I like the sassy back in the channel.
@natemofield281
@natemofield281 Год назад
I thought that little hornet would have a slight advantage because of the weight difference. Good racing though.
@mikeadcock1592
@mikeadcock1592 Год назад
Those AMC's were terribly underrated
@chevyblue10
@chevyblue10 Год назад
I'm a Mopar man and of course I love those 440s but damn I love that AMC too! I've never seen one of those SC 360 Hornets. What a beautiful car!!! I'd love to own either one.
@Sumner1028
@Sumner1028 Год назад
Got an SC 360 for sale. It's a drag car but a true SC 360 car. Runs 11.50 AMC powered
@mrkemblegilstrap
@mrkemblegilstrap Год назад
Great cars! Great racing!
@daltonsparks1293
@daltonsparks1293 Год назад
My only regret with this channel is i didnt find it sooner
@derekv275
@derekv275 Год назад
I had no idea these hornets could be spicy dang!
@jayschmahl9206
@jayschmahl9206 Год назад
Very nice! Both so cool and I would take either one. Mopar's and AMC's rule in my opinion.
@martinstyblo6355
@martinstyblo6355 Год назад
Thanks for sharing this. 2 great cars, their history and 3 great race rounds. Great to see!
@brucebryan3710
@brucebryan3710 Год назад
The AMC cars were rarely seen but much respect to these guys... styling left a little too be desired
@stuttsuttle992
@stuttsuttle992 Год назад
Thanks for the memories!!
@a.k.a.A.E.
@a.k.a.A.E. Год назад
this is the greatest duell ever ! two awesome cars. i love these green challenger !!
@EchoFaustMusic
@EchoFaustMusic Год назад
"It's an amc...from 1971...who caaares" Exactly what my family thought when I started working on a 1970 AMC Ambassador. Great project to start with, vinyl top is still in good shape and so is the body (which is pretty rare out here in Nebraska) Funny enough it's got a 360 as well. Factory 4 barrel as well. Most of my family owns Chevy small block 350 powered stuff, so it's kinda neat to have something different (if a bit of a pain when I need to find parts) Hoping it's gonna be a nice big boat for cruising once I'm done.
@garycordle5295
@garycordle5295 Год назад
A👍 up to both driver's running that good with standards, today's youth couldn't drive these cars 😂
@plap.
@plap. Год назад
Stick is the newest anti theft device you can get
@dustylover100
@dustylover100 Год назад
For what it was, that Hornet was a haulin'!
@mikemoore7245
@mikemoore7245 Год назад
For 80 cubes less that Hornet was close every time. Learned how to drive stick in a ‘74 Gremlin with a 232 and a T96 3 spd.
@gregchiropolos9885
@gregchiropolos9885 Год назад
It was a 73 x package 232 and 3 spd I miss that car!
@sportsterray66
@sportsterray66 7 месяцев назад
I always wanted a '71 SC 360 like this, but back in high school in the early 80's I had two '77 Hornet AMX's. Both were in Sunshine Yellow, black interiors, with the standard 258 2V, with automatics. The AMX package came standard with a 258 2V, close ratio 4-speed, a limited slip rear, and heavy duty suspension with handling package. My first one had a shift kit, and that Mopar 904 trans wouldn't shift out of 2nd until you let up on the pedal at around 80 mph when the engine sounded like it was about to blow. I raced a guy in a new '83 Trans Am with the 305 4-barrel HO, and beat him by 2 car lengths, 3 times in a row. He wanted to know what I had under the hood, and didn't believe me when I told him it was a stock 6-cylinder. I always wanted to build my 2nd one into what they should've made. A 360 4-barrel, 4-speed, using an original '77 360 4-barrel from a Matador cop car. I miss those cars, they were rare unique looking cars, and my 2 were the only ones around my area. 🧏‍♂️
@charliesierra6919
@charliesierra6919 Год назад
Cool and rare car. Almost never seen anywhere. That Hornet was impressive.
@jerrypeacock2234
@jerrypeacock2234 Год назад
Growing up in my hometown just outside Kenosha there was a guy who had a hornet SC, and trust me you got respect
@jeremiahg5852
@jeremiahg5852 Год назад
I love AMC's and Challengers! Great vid!
@chuckgross6024
@chuckgross6024 Год назад
That 3 run was a race bud! Nice to see a plain 440 on the track. Ever get any 383 action?
@kickahaw
@kickahaw 3 месяца назад
My family had several AMC's good running cars.
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney Год назад
I'm always surprised at what E-bodies weigh. That's within a few hundred pounds of a modern Charger/Challenger, with all of their electronics, airbags, door beams, and everything else. Where did all the weight come from? I know a big-block Chrysler with iron heads is a CHAWNK, but what else?
@plap.
@plap. Год назад
Dana 60 for one thing it is at about 400lbs. For perspective a Ford 9in is 300lbs and a Chevy 12 bolt is around 200lbs
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney Год назад
@@plap. That is a thing I often forget. Even at that, though, the entire drivetrain is what, 1200 pounds? I guess they're a fairly long and wide car, and a bit more about style than, say, a Roadrunner.
@louiskats5116
@louiskats5116 Год назад
Goodday C & Z, Fantastic racing hands down, Suprised how quick the Challenger was considering the weight of it. Any Oldsmobile coming up soon ? Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤
@the496elcamino3
@the496elcamino3 Год назад
Never saw one. Glad you show us these rare muscle cars.
@TrackPackRT
@TrackPackRT Год назад
Seriously love these videos. Your commentary and jokes honestly make it so much more entertaining. Never change C&Z.
@chevyblue10
@chevyblue10 Год назад
A lot of commenters are down on the looks of this Hornet. I love it! I think this is the best looking AMC I've ever seen...and that includes the Javelin and the AMX!!! Beautiful car imo.
@kevinrice7635
@kevinrice7635 Год назад
Respectable Rambler! Mopar went to work...good horses 🐎
@kevinrice7635
@kevinrice7635 Год назад
Kevin Rice is a great 👍 Man of Genius.
@rogerodle8750
@rogerodle8750 Год назад
Great video. That Hornet is a pretty good looking car.
@bryankoehler8765
@bryankoehler8765 Год назад
Nice one !
@mtrevino01
@mtrevino01 Год назад
I look forward to getting my muscle car fix on top of the legendary narrating! Always a good laugh and great races
@justpray365
@justpray365 Год назад
Well I care too! I have always owned Mopars, but I like the little AMC’s that could. I think I can, I think I can.
@manher4335
@manher4335 Год назад
Lmao the first 14 seconds. Good video, keep the humor up love it
@Timman57
@Timman57 Год назад
Got myself a 74 javelin amx and a 71 gremlin X, love a good hornet
@HawklordLI
@HawklordLI Год назад
That little 360 sure held it's own against that 440.
@Sheehy223
@Sheehy223 Год назад
Man these weird little AMC's are some of my favorite cars. It's a shame all the really cool ones like this are so rare.
@RoadRunnergarage8570
@RoadRunnergarage8570 Год назад
I heard one of the major Model Kit companies is coming out with a kit of the 71 Hornet SC/360... Needless to say it's on my wish list!!
@franktalan5441
@franktalan5441 Год назад
where did you hear that? Been waiting for that kit for awhile now.
@peteloomis8456
@peteloomis8456 Год назад
@@franktalan5441 I think Revel was making them back in the day so look to see what they offer . I would check eBay and Hobbie lobby because they often carry some of these old re popped model kits like the visible V-8 if you remember those .
@naughtysmurf64
@naughtysmurf64 Год назад
I have a 1975 Hornet 2 door fastback setting in the garage right now....my project car.
@daless3526
@daless3526 Год назад
Damn, way closer than I thought.
@dodgesportsman772
@dodgesportsman772 Год назад
I might be misremembering but I recall a hornet with a 401 big block.., never was beaten on the street....
@netrioter
@netrioter Год назад
AMC never had a big block. The 1970 and up Gen 3 engines, the 304,360,390,401 were all the same blocks, as were the ones before 1970 (Gen 1,2).The 360 was made all the way to 1991,5 years after AMC was killed off by Chrysler, it was put in the Grand Wagoneer..it wasnt the Chrysler 360
@dodgesportsman772
@dodgesportsman772 Год назад
@@netrioter I called my friend,said it's a gremlin with a 401.
@moisesgaribay4893
@moisesgaribay4893 Год назад
@@netrioter the 401 is Amc's big block
@ramblerdave1339
@ramblerdave1339 Год назад
@@dodgesportsman772 a 401 will bolt right in, in place of a 304, the only V8 that came in Gremlins. The blocks are the same size externally, internally, larger bore and stroke, and 390 and 401 had forged cranks, and rods. 360 - 401 also had bigger valves. Due to internal strength, in the blocks, and heavier cranks, a 401 is about 100 pounds heavier than a 304. You're welcome!
@dodgesportsman772
@dodgesportsman772 Год назад
@@ramblerdave1339 thx... But his is all original with the 401. Has original build sheet... It's a rare one I guess. But I don't know that much about AMC, I'm a Mopar man myself. Although I do own a javalin
@RoadRunnergarage8570
@RoadRunnergarage8570 Год назад
The 70 Challenger RT Convertible kit is on my wish list too . Might be a "Challenge" to locate one since it's an older kit..
@jameskerber4426
@jameskerber4426 Год назад
I had friend with a Penske prepped SC360. This car at Irwindale did a 13.35 at 105.
@bruceh92
@bruceh92 Год назад
This car is blessed, it wasn't chopped into becoming a Gremlin - whew.
@jeh3692
@jeh3692 Год назад
Very view SC 360 Hornets around, I've seen a few at the AMC nationals, Cordova Dragway in Illinois.
@aphil4581
@aphil4581 Год назад
If the Challenger could get more traction it would be in the 12's easy. The driver did an excellent job with the tires he had.
@milla698
@milla698 Год назад
I've noticed that most all the cars you show that start in the left lane wins
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo 8 месяцев назад
3200 with driver 390 lbs of torque. 13s makes sense to me! Challenger was sandbagging first run! Both cars are too cool. Good to see them getting driven & not in the garage rotting away
@derrickjackson6737
@derrickjackson6737 Год назад
Good race
@Boyo1956
@Boyo1956 Год назад
An ex-girlfriend had a Hornet. She called it the "Horny".😉
@brianbloom1799
@brianbloom1799 9 месяцев назад
AMC did a Great Job, You have to Give it Credit.
@johnwagner4559
@johnwagner4559 Год назад
I'd rather have the 71 lime green gsx the rolled by at 0.15. Gorgeous and rare!!!!
@SpressoHead
@SpressoHead Год назад
Damn, I bought a little ‘68 Hornet back in ‘88. Paid $650. It was a 258(?) inline six w/ a 3 on the tree. That little car did unreal burnouts - people always freaked when I popped the hood. Car only had 58k on the clock. I loved that car, but my wife (ex now) made me sell it. Sure wish I had kept it - it drove so nice, & had unreal power for a six.
@phitownhustler4802
@phitownhustler4802 Год назад
The 440s torque overcame the weight disadvantage but give the Hornet credit with giving up 80 cubic inches and only 8.5 compression as well was very respectful it just ran out of steam with 4.10 gears probably would be a little quicker with 3.90 gears. I just built a 360 for my AMC Spirit drag car and it makes 400 hp with a small cam and the Spirit weighs 2300lbs and will run low 11s with 3.70 gears
@peteloomis8456
@peteloomis8456 Год назад
AMC V-8s use the same 906 sized lifters as the Mopar engines do so the cams they both can run can have faster ramp speeds than other engines from GM and Ford . For big block Chrysler engines the faster the ramp speed and providing the cam is what's called a 80% duration cam it's actual duration is 80%of it's advertised duration so it has a fast ramp speed and the faster the ramp speeds are the more power the big block Chrysler engines makes . This was kept a secret for many years with the Mopar racers that knew this and it gave them an advantage over the GM and Ford guys but they eventually found out about this and now you have Chevrolet and Ford guys that are taking their engine blocks in and are having the lifter bores opened up and sleeved for larger lifters to take advantage of the faster ramp speeds on custom ground cams for those engines .
@Sumner1028
@Sumner1028 Год назад
Brother I have so many secrets to make your car go faster. My hornet goes 11.50 with a 360. You wouldn't believe what's in it. My motor in your car with 411 gears would run high 10s easy. Hit me up. My uncle still has the blueprints of what we call the son of a whore motor because the motor inside has a lot of shall we say a lot of fathers.
@01trsmar
@01trsmar Год назад
Challenger needs to figure out how to get traction,easy 12 second car...
@domnicclassi3823
@domnicclassi3823 Год назад
The challenger is ready to go 12s! Big blocks pull hard at the shift. Torques, baby!
@Jockey04X
@Jockey04X Год назад
Love it!
@sr71blackbirddr
@sr71blackbirddr Год назад
Some great racing 🏎
@GorillaCookies
@GorillaCookies Год назад
I have to say the Hornet was pretty impressive considering it was giving up 80 cubes and a significant amount of HP and Torque to the challenger.
@gary9426
@gary9426 Год назад
Great matchup! The Hornet was nothing to look at...but better than the Gremlins and Pacers, lol! The AMX and Javelins were cool, though. I was really shocked by the weight of these cars...a very entertaining race!
@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369
@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369 Год назад
howDY c&z, ... thanks COOP the WiSeNhEiMeR from Richmond, INDIANA ...
@617michel
@617michel Год назад
I would have guessed the Challenger to win, that said, surprised by Hornets performance.
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube Год назад
It takes the stepchild to almost beat a mopar
@jamesblair9614
@jamesblair9614 Год назад
The S/C is pretty low key compared to some AMC’s from just before, like the Rebel Machine and the SCrambler. A sleepy look gets more street action.
@hobartw9770
@hobartw9770 Год назад
Dang, I was really pulling for the Hornet.
@sergeantmasson3669
@sergeantmasson3669 Год назад
Hobart W, IMHO, this was a total mismatch race favoring the MOPAR.
@danhillman4523
@danhillman4523 Год назад
109? huh?
@braxtonprice4847
@braxtonprice4847 Год назад
My dad has a 1973 grain Torino sport fast back
@JohnWhite-xc3md
@JohnWhite-xc3md Год назад
Hornet definitely held its ground. Even with a 4spd it ran very consistant, and impressive times. Not too shabby AMC.
@davidmc1489
@davidmc1489 Год назад
Love the hornet.....had a 4dr piecer ....rusted away tho....
@willross4125
@willross4125 Год назад
Remind me likens for a P76 318.
@johnsheetz6639
@johnsheetz6639 Год назад
I'm impressed by the AMC price! Ida paid today's money for a new one! There has to be a catch unreliability? Expensive dealer fees back then?
@aphil4581
@aphil4581 Год назад
The MPH was much higher in the Challenger every time. That makes the 440 less quick only from traction and or driver. AMC weight stated was not with driver.
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras Год назад
The stated weight for the AMC definitely included the driver
@Userqwerty349
@Userqwerty349 2 месяца назад
If money fell from the sky I'd immediately look for a Hornet SC/360, or a Randall Gremlin 401XR.
@mgmnfld3109
@mgmnfld3109 Год назад
AMC cars are a love / hate thing. Most people hate 'em, but some things are just so ugly you gotta' love 'em....lol. Gremlin X for instance. That Hornet is a sharp looking little car. Personally, I'd take the big block Challenger.
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