Jeannie Bohannon power... no, but longevity wise I’d put an inline 6-71 just as high on the longevity scale as an 855 Cummins or 3406 cat. The v series Detroit’s aren’t as long living because of the inherent flaw of any v engine... less main bearings and smaller rod bearings because 2 rods share a journal. The 903 v8 Cummins and 3408 cat both have bottom end issues because of this and often break cranks, which v8 Detroit’s generally don’t.
Before I worked for Cummins I worked for a Towing co as a Mechanic. We had a white road boss with a 750 holmes on the back. It had a 318 in it (8-71). I loved driving that thing. I loved the sound of the 2 cycle detroits. The exhaust smell was much more pleasant than a 903 or triple nickle. I rebuilt about 4 of them. I remember the last fuel out fitting had to be that restricted fitting. A few guys fought with power complaints because someone else tore it down and they did not know about it. Setting the rack was also a challenge. If you got it really close you could back out the buffer screw and it was not to unsteady at idle. Anyway most of our wreckers were 220 cummins in white 9000 single axles with 10 speeds. Most of the time I was working on the wreckers but would tow in emergencies or bad snow storms. The 318's power band was pretty much 1800-2150.RPM Hence a screamin Jimmy.
I;ve gotten lost in an air select spicer more than once when I was trying to learn it.Pull to the side and start over. 4x4 and 5x4 were a lot easier.Now at 65 years old it's very cool to see a survivor.
I used to herd a GMC tri-axle hauling 21 or 22 tons about all the time with na 6-71 and a Spicer 4x4 and I really liked it. The syncros were out of it but it didn't matter. I started out on a Mack DM, 673, 185 horse Thermodyne tri-axle with a quad box so anything else was gravy. And who needs a radio with that 318! Nice ride.
Where can I find a town with THAT much country road to Drive on at This day and age ??? LOL !!! Ashamed to say, I was a dump truck driver for 25 years and at one point even OWNED Detroit equipment, hearing the sweet hum from that engine gave me the courage and the drive to 'walk' into Battle on the Highway Everyday like the sound of drum beats gave the troops courage to engage in battle in the war between the STATES !!!! And so, at SOME point, cummins & cat prevailed and ALL of us dinosours, meaning the Detroit engines, AND people like Me, disapperared , sorry for the wrong spelling, just going down memory lane and YES, our 'tour guide ' in this video was a MASTER in the gear box, You don't just walk up & start 'workin ' a 16 speed Spicer, Thank you sir, for a trip down 'memory lane ' !!!! Smiling, John
If you were down under in only greatest of all countries, New Zealand you could drive all the country roads you wanted to. New Zealand is pretty much made up of country roads and 2 lane highways almost the entire way up the country
I don’t know much about these beautiful trucks, but I do remember that distinctive sound that you no longer hear on the roads. Funny how a video can bring memories back.
Just found ur video man that brought back tons memories been driving over 45yrs started out in those ole screaming Detroits hauling grain in a international transtar 2 with one those ole girls are magic cant bet that sound
Start in 2nd in primary, 1st in secondary. 1,2,3,4 3rd in primary, 2nd in secondary, 2,3,4, fourth in primary, 2,3,4. 12 forward progressive gears. Worked pretty well for the most part. I had the 5x4 version, which I loved.
That was one of the first transmissions I ever drove. I had forgotten what a pain in the ass that thing was. It was like rowing a boat in cement. I know everybody loves them old Detroits but that combo would wear your ass and your ears out in a twelve hour day.
Used to hear the old Detroit diesel engines in coal trucks and log trucks back in southwest Va. my grandparents had some land logged and the outfit that did it had an old Dodge with the fold out fenders. it had a 318 Detroit you could hear coming 5 miles away. We used to stand in the yard and watch them leave in that thing. once they got outta sight you could hear them pulling Powell mountain in the distance screaming for a good 20 minutes. They used to stop at the top loaded and check the brakes and let it cool off before heading down the mountain and up devil's race and few other hills before heading on into Kingsport TN to the mead paper mill. The driver wore ear plugs
Never forget where you came from.without these old trucks.these are what made drivers.truck drivers and gear jammers. These new transmission ain’t nothing. I started in a b61 Mack. 21 speed spicer. And once in awhile I will drive it around and enjoy the era. Gotta love 💕 it
Nice Pete!! I would leave the 8v71 in it. For sure!! Those Detroits are awesome. It makes It unique!! Who cares if u can't listen to the cb or radio. The Detroit sounds better. 👍🏼😀
If he's going to just scrap the Detroit, i know I'd take it! It still runs, so whatever's going on with it to make it "unreliable" can be fixed!!! Theres guys out here that'd give their right arm to get their hands on an old 2 stroke!
Hello from Canada 🇨🇦 30 plus years ago I was in a swampier in the oilfield and have bin in verity of trucks with many different combinations of power and gears the best one was an old hies 360in bed truck / poll truck low geared and the horse power to pull I’m sure it had a Detroit monster in it I remember the sound like it was yesterday hammer down and grab those gears it’s music to our ears 👍
Man, Do I miss my Pete. I sold it, wish I would of kept it. Had a Detroit in it, and just listening to you run it thru it's paces sounds awesome. My truck ended up out by eastern Tenn. I would love to find it again. Thanks for sharing your truck sir.
My dad used to haul coal in WV in the 1980s, he used to haul for a guy who owned a fleet of kenworths with Detroit Diesels in them and he wasn't to fond of the slack in the 13 speeds said that when he shifted he would always smack the passenger seat, but he loved and still loves the sound (which is probably the reason why his hearing isn't the best) his own truck had a Cummings.
There's nothing like the sound of an old Detroit. One of the first trucks I drove was a '71 International. It had that Detroit and the 16 trans. I really enjoyed driving that rig..
something about it the old big Detroit I just love. that sound brings back some of the best memories I have. thank you for the video and drive safe and God bless.
Jonathan I watched your video more than once !!!! That’s 1 proud jimmy & a sweet 16, Any time that trans neutralises is not a problem, instead of lifting off the gas pedal waiting for it to select the next gear you just slip the stick into neutral and back in to the same slot your away no waiting no grinding no missed overev straight in, it can not nuetrilise. When you get this right after some practice you will get the occasional person asking if your rig has an auto shift installed cheers from down under
Good Pete ! My uncle taught me how to drive one of those ! Nice truck ! I had a hard time at first, but got the hang of it. Shifting in reverse was strange. My uncle drove 18 speed trucks for the military moving heavy equipment. Unfortunately, he was crushed buy a load on the side of a freeway... he was trying to secure a load that was in excess of 18 tons. Some kind of a transformer from what I heard. RIP.
Thanks for uploading this!! 1 of my 1st trkng jobs was drvng dump trks & the guy I drove for back in the early '90s had a bunch of old trks (the youngest was a 1985 Brigadier w/a 3208 Cat). We mostly had Fords w/671 Detroits (the trk I drove had that engine & the 16 spd Spicer) & we had 1 Ford with a 6V92. We had a parts trk that had an 8V71 Detroit. It wasn't rd worthy, but motor was good. My boss kept it n case any of the Fords' Detroits went dwn.
Love them old 359s. Good friend of mine has two that he hauled coal with, both have 425 cats . One is 13 speed other is 10 speed. .. awesome truck glad your going to fix it up
that's a beautiful old Pete...and I really like the Holmes 750......I'd keep the Detroit and install a 13 speed behind it...don't send the Detroit to the scrap yard...sell it to someone who will appreciate it...they are an important part of history now...
Sweet Peterbuilt there Jonathan. I have fond memories of riding to school on an old late 70's early 80's Bluebird Transit style bus with one of these screamers. Was sad when I learned that due to the bus tipping over on its side one slippery winter's day that the school department was retiring the bus to a junk dealer to be scrapped. Them 8-71s and 4-53s had a lot more character than any old Catapillar or Cummins.
David Brown, I too drove detroits over the years. one I got new in 1970 something had the air shift 4x4 Spicer I loved it!! I have bad hearing loss now,probably due to drivinddetroits all those years
Those sound so wonderful, maybe loud, but like music. We lived on Highway 77, when I was young, there was no I-90 or I-29 in those days. I think the sound of trucks put me to sleep many nights.
I would definitely swap out the trans for the 10-speed but would keep the 8V71 Detroit diesel in it being that I'm a huge fan of the Screaming Jimmy. Nice Truck!
Random Stuff In Oregon I know. Right? I’m also interested in old cars & trucks as well as toilets. I especially love old Chrysler vehicles with the gear reduction starter & old trucks with Detroit Diesels.
@@MrBrombomb That's awesome! I've always been a fan of classic Detroits as well. Also have you seen my early 70s motorhomes yet? Ones got a 318 Chrysler in it and the other has a big block. Both of which have those distinctive starters in them. Love starting them and hearing that sound!
Random Stuff In Oregon That’s really cool. I also watch abandoned house & building explorations just to see what kind of vintage toilets & appliances a house has or had. One old school built in 1915 had two Joseph Vogel toilets & a trough urinal in it. I believe it is on a channel called Urban Exploring with Kappy.
Random Stuff In Oregon I want a General Lee 1969 Dodge Charger with the gear reduction starter & a 1977 Dodge D200 or W200 4X4 as well since I am a huge fan of the Dukes Of Hazzard.
That ole Detroit reminded me of the gobblin toy truck in Maximum overdrive love that ole Detroit sound learned how to drive a big truck with a quadraplex in a 69 autocar 250 Cummins moving houses
Same. Pretty sure the Goblin was a Western Star.....Love the sound of the old Screaming GMs, goosebumps evertime. As bad as some say Maximum Overdrive was, I've always loved that one (and pretty much every other Stephen King inspired film for that matter) mainly coz of the trucks. "Trucks" (1997) was pretty good too.
If I had that baby she would be every day but in California we can't drive any thing non def or 2010 and newer you are very lucky thanks from hemming.tow
John Hull this is by far the most realistic comment. Hell even some of the more newer ones are bout the same. I had an 05' frieghtshaker classic with a DD60 and boy if that truck ran it's ass off hauling a belly dump. She pulled 90k better then she did 80k loved the sound of the engine brake too. Would have loved to of heard the brake on this bad boy. *Fapfap* mechanical engine brake
I think I'd rather have the two stick setup with the two boxes. It's easier for me to keep track of. On that note, I only have about 270 miles of experience driving a twin stick Kenworth. The only two stick I've ever driven. But I liked it as it seemed simple to me after the first five miles. If it were my truck, I'd definitely keep it Detroit powered, maybe switch to a more efficient twin turbo 8v92, but it would still be a two stroke if I could get away with it. I grew up with the sound of two strokes, and naturally love them.
What a beautiful truck! I agree with you, update with the Cummins and 10 speed! Imagine the look on the face of the late model truck driver when you show up with that sweet old Pete to drag his malfunctioning computer rig off! lol!
Right foot really IS the loud peddle. Interesting (confusing?) box setup. Get your ear buds in and rev it till the crank turns blue!!! Roll on Rat Rod build. Thanks for sharing:)
Cool old truck ya got there! Pay no mind to the detractors. I used to drive a White road boss with that engine and it was loud, hot, and messed up my hearing. Besides if switching to a Cummins and a ten speed will extend the life of this classic ol girl and allow it to work a few more years, why not! Better than sitting overgrown in weeds and rusting away. The Road Boss caught fire one day and they replaced it with an 83 R model Mack with air conditioning and more power, and an aftermarket am/fm stereo, so I wasn't sad to see the White go.
Yeah I hear ya! (barely) I always found that the Detroit. at least the one I drove did not have enough power, just loud and leaked oil. Your ears will thank you later when you make the switch. I'm sure when you pull that engine and tranny, you'll have no problem finding a buyer for them, plenty of 2 stroke fans out there.
Jonathan W dont sweat it. if you're standin in a group of 10 truck drivers,you're gonna have 9 telling you what you're doing wrong and how much better they USED to do it. lol. large ole pete, man.
To everyone saying keep the tired 318 Detroit, if it was a local haul dump truck or tractor pulling an end dump locally that would be great, although I’d put a muffler on it. 2 stroke Detroit’s are my favorite diesel engine to work on, very simple and a good all around design. The problem with a truck that’s gotta run the highway is you need a truck that can run LOADED at 70+ on flat and 50+ on a grade or you’re going to lose business to a truck that can do that. There’s lots of great engines that fail here...the 220 Cummins and the 237 mack also can’t do it. and The only 2 stroke I could see keeping up with today’s traffic is an 8v92ta or maybe a 12v71 if you can afford the fuel. Spend 8 hours in a 318 powered truck topping every hill at 35 mph and you’ll want a Cummins, cat or 60 series too.
Dear Johnathan W. 👍👌👏 Just finished watching this for the second time (after seeing it in 2017). It's still simply fantastic! 😁 I bet that the Bus Grease Monkey respectively Indiana Diesel guys would love to own this great towing truck. They want to have a hauler for taking old busses to their shop. If you want to sell the truck they might be interested. Thanks a lot for making recording editing uploading and sharing. Best regards luck and health.
