1971 Citroën DS - Jay Leno's Garage 

Congratulations, that's awesome! 🙂✌🏼

I have always wanted one

Living my dream over there. Fortunately, I am only 19-years-old as of now. I have plenty of time.

Same here, I’ve watched all DS videos on YT while thinking I’d never own one myself, but an opportunity came up to buy one with a partner, it’s a 1970 DSpécial. It’s really nice to share the enthusiasm and the maintenance costs, too.

Cool!! Keep it garaged and enjoy!!!​@@maartenzantinge6387

Please if possible keep the car as long as possible and restore it, history will thank you, oh and don’t forget to drive it every summer

In Portugal we call the DS "Boca de Sapo" (frog's mouth)

Is it for sale?

To OP. Please make sure it's in running condition. It'll be virtually priceless in the future.

80 is a very good age to reach for a smoker. I hope he enjoyed his life to the fullest.

Have you got it by now ? If yes, how does it feel to finally sit on your own Citroen DS ? Καλημέρα απο Ελλάδα!

You have exceptional taste. I also love the Citoën SM however the engines sucked.

Car Wizard just got one... paid 18K$ for it I think. Lots of content from him on this coming soon!

So happy for you from France. All the best and enjoy the rides! Salutations.

@@TheFrenchscot Thank you from America. Car is here and I love it. Plus every time I take it on the road, I become a celebrity!

"Ever built" can be a bit of an exaggeration. I owned a Citroën C5 from 2004, that was fit with what was the latest stage on the evolution of this remarkable suspension system. Imagine all Jay Leno showed you, but in the 21st century. The suspension height adapts in real-time to the type of road and speed you are driving. You can not only lift or lower the suspension from the inside of the car, with a button near the gear lever but also from inside the rear boot (mine was a state wagon), to help you place heavy objects inside. Full panoramic glass rooftop with electrical shutter panels, fully electrically adjustable seats with massage backs, heating controls, independent fully automatic AC system, 3 modes robotized automatic gearbox with a sequential option, etc. The driver seat will vibrate when you go across to another lane without using the indicators! Plus, it was a 2.7 liter, 206 HP V6 engine with twin turbos that could easily do 160 mph. Google "Citroën c5 break 3.0 v6 exclusive" and check it out. So ... go easy on the "...most comfortable car ever built". Maybe for its time, maybe for a loooong time, but definitely not "ever".

@@emanueljmartins The beauty of English exposed.

More comfortable than my ‘63 Cadillac Coupe De Ville,which is like riding on a gigantic marshmallow? One thing this vehicle truly is? One of the ugliest ever produced,other than the AMC Gremlin.

@@redman840 Stylish, not ugly. Remember we are dealing with French design ideas and they are often bending the rules

I AGREE THE BEST RIDE I EVER HAD

Well said!

His slight lisp really helps him sound like that. Makes him seem like a genuine guy.

hoodoo2001 A true enthusiast...

@@charlesgibson646 gun j

That is genuine coming from his heart.

Lime chips

@@technorunner1 Haha exactly

Acne medicine ad!

It was the Audi E-Tron GT for me lol😂

It showed me a nice innovative, French, grilled cheese

That is amazing in a car that is already amazing in just about every way 🤗

You probably need to do some research, to say your not accurate would be an understatement. The spheres have a fixed amount of gas, and the only change was in hydraulic fluid going through a damping hole into the sphere which then acted on a membrane against the gas which was used as a spring, with the exception of the accumulator sphere which acts as a pressure reservoir and an anti pulse filter for the hp pump. The only car that could level cross axis is the xantia activa which used rams on of side of the ARB and a special sensor on the front ARB and steering to counter roll. The breaking was proportional to rear load as the break valve allowed pressure from the rear rams to give added force to the breaks. And for all those who remember seeing it, this is why everything up to the sx xantia (vsx exclusive and all later cars (C5/c6) were fitted with antisink) would often be seen with it's bum on the ground. Over time the break valve breaks down and leaks allowing the rear suspension to drain when parked a lot faster than the front suspension. These cars do give the best ride ever but they aren't magic and the hydropneumatic system is very simple if you understand it.

@@house89147 I'll believe the guy that can spell brakes.

@@enwri don't really care you knew what I meant and I'm dyslexic so f u

@@house89147 I guess the dyslexia can be added to your undiagnosed Asperger's then. You know your stuff but your opening sentence shows a distinct lack of social skills. Your technical nous will be better received with some manners and tact.

The ID was the discount version of the DS, which came out after the DS failed to sell a lot of units because it was very expensive. The ID had the hydropneumatic suspension, but no power steering or power brakes, and the semi-automatic transmission was not an option, and since it didn't have to drive anything but the suspension with the hydraulic pump, it did just fine with the 1.9 liter engine

Yess, this are typical stories from Citroën owners with the hidropneumatic suspension, one of the most advanced and incredible performance feature in the iconics Citroëns, but this brand it’s much more important than many people think, Citroën invented, the front wheel drive, the all terrain vehicules, the disc brakes, the Hidropneumatic suspension, the directional headlights and more!! I m gonna get a “SM” soon!

Thanks for the story Kim ! I love hearing from someone who has actually had one . Thanks Kim.

I sat on one that belonged to my classmate's dad. He raised the car after we sat along for awhile. In those days, I had no idea Citroën was ahead of its time😊

@@juancoccs You're gonna get an SM ?!! My dream. I hope you get it.

The DS Pallas had more sound insulation than the lesser models. Can't ignore that thumping, roaring IL4 motor right there in the big housing between the footwells. Older ones' front pinion (secondary/lower) shaft bearing whining got louder and louder with mileage.

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I m French and im 44 year old, when i was a kid my grandfather has one of these, the rising car suspension ,the shape and the feeling when on the road is something one need to experiment.

The DS is an antique. The last were produced in 1975, 46 years ago. A few ID ambulances were sold as 1976.

I pray that Citroen, someday, does another run of this car. Maybe with some modern internals (could even be electric) but with that same body. I only learned about this car, properly, about a week ago but I already think its one of the most beautiful looking cars ever made.

First revealed at the 1955 Paris auto show. Incroyable!

Ha nicely put

I wish I had that amount of hope for the future...

The Mad Gentleman hey man the hole in The ozone me layer should be healed by 2070

I grew up in the 80-90s and the 2020 we were suppose to be driving flying cars and living on the moon.. so next year should be crazy

I've got a CX, cracking motor, the smoothest ride ever. The only folk making hydropneumatic these days are rolls Royce and only on the top of the range

true

Didn't notice a flat? I'm glad you were not on the road near me.

once sat in a new cx gti with black and white leather seats and a cxprestige in our local dealership when they were new.never seen that quality in any car since shame about body protection.

@@paulh7589 What geektoro says is true if you were ever driving in one of these and blew a tire the car is so well tuned you will not lose control of the car the suspension system compensates so quickly with the other wheels it takes almost all weight off the damaged tire and redistributes it to the others literally the safest car you can drive from the standpoint of a blown tire!!!!

It is still. I remember my uncle said than in a emergency braking with a caravan on the highway with full family (from 110/120 km/h), both car & caravan remain aligned ;) A secure car for sure ;) Regards from Fr. boys.

And he is right about comfortable than rols or benz ,it is ,but no one believes until they drive it.

R44h

Ask the man who owned five...

I've seen at least 2 of them around Vancouver, British Columbia. I've seen even some older models of Citroen's.

Citroen never would seal the hydraulic system reservoir. As the fluid level fell and rose, moisture and oxygen along with dust is sucked through the vent hole in the reservoir cap. The cars from 1954 until 1967 used brake fluid Liquide Hydraulique Vegetale (castor bean oil and methanol), Liquide Hydraulique Synthetique (basically DOT3 brake fluid) and LHS2 (improved lubricity), 1969 in the USA. The later cars used LHM (Liquide Hydraulique Mineral), very similar to ATF, hydraulic jack oil, Red Oil (used in older airplane landing gear struts and many industrial machines), except dyed green.

@@algrayson8965 wow you know yer stuff. Tres bien dits.

Hi. ,Thank you for sharing 👌.

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@@algrayson8965 no

i'll bet it can with the Maserati engine.

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You pronounce "DS" in French language exactly like the word "déesse" which translate to "goddess", so Jay is in love with a goddess.

@@dragosCJ thank men pls subscribe

@@ungurdani8346 can you stfu

I had a '71 DS 21 in 1976. It was the finest car I ever owned!

If they can do the GT40, they can do this.

citroens latest DS5 was inspired by this

@@minoassal I didn't know that. Sadly it didn't trigger that link, seeing often the DS5's....

One of the best modifications for a DS is an all electric drivetrain - even a weak electric motor moves this thing well because of it's low weight and great aerodynamics. It also becomes dead quiet with an electric motor since the suspension doesn't squeak like metal springs would.

Certainly wasn't very "cool" for your grandfather with that heater on lol

@@geley5285 That's for sure, but I think that he was very glad that he had to pay a small price for that level of magnificence ;)

Hum, DS were produced until 75. At least, in France.

@@strato9223 You're quite right, mine was a 75 DS23, one of the last built. I bought it in 77. I still see it around town occasionally. It looks as though it was built this morning.

That is the key to lenos success. He is a nerdy guy like most of us..

He is a nerd just like me as I too worked on these cars in a shop in Houston(1970-75mostly SMs) while in between jobs managing pizza huts I always looked forward to getting to work on these so I could do the post work checkout drive while the ‘other’ “kid” mechanics wanted to work on the mustangs and the chevy’s Cameos RS everyone thought I was a nut case or a French sympathizer my French was and still is as bad as J’s spoken “French” it wan’t the vocabulary for me but I never got the but my pronunciations were wrong 90% of the time as confused as I was I realizes now that my pronouncitions were actually not that bad it was the tense and gender that I kept getting messed up on even-after studying the language for 4 years in college in my last year “orals” I truly wanted to fly to France on the concord to experience that too and take an emersion language course- but it simply didn’t happen...Interesting enough the D3 was reintroduced but in a limited number of global markets, like in tijuanna Mexico in the 1990’s $70KUSD one could buy a new SM but you couldn’t cross the boarder with the car especially into California! Most French car manufacturers pulled out of the US market due to the costs associated with getting an import licensing done was excessive except for Renault sold as the Nissan Maxima built in Japan is really an SM but without all the good stuff that makes it an SM or a French car. 10 years ago I was a stoaway on a trip to France for my fiftieth birthday and SMS ere seen everywhere one I noticed on the autobahn between strausburg FR and Wiesbaden I was driving a CC 6-speed 2.0 Diesel engine before this car was brought into the US by VW more than a year later it had no model name badge then finally it was called the ‘cc’ Car and driver said it’s styling looked like a SS helmet but it looked more like a tank like the ones shown on the bridge signs displaying how many tanks can cross the bridge at one time and which way the each tank can be going to do so... anyway I noticed the SM was yawing along at speed bouncy bouncy up and down nose pitch o the suspension system was no longer analog controlled by somehow digitally done but chasing it’s bounce or perhaps the aerodynamics was causing a ‘flutter’ in the suspension that was causing it to over react! Not sure but still would hav loved to drive the new one... which looked more like the Nissan maximum than a SM...

He doesn't need to try, he is naturally funny.

Well, that's the thing. He isn't exactly funny

he never was. good car guy though

no

Can we all just stop saying "can we all"? Everyone already appreciates Jay. 🙄

Too many regulations regarding safety and efficiency will constrain designers way beyond their capacity to make new and interesting things.

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André Citroën the founder was saying "once an idea is good, the price doesn't matter", and after he died, the Michelin company, main owner Citroën, which was totally agreeing with this philosophy, continued to path the way in the same direction. Unfortunately, they invested so much money in developing the Wankel rotary engine in the 70's, meanwhile the petrol crisis arrived and they abandoned it. Then Peugeot , with a little help from the French Republic bought Citroën. Until the beginning of the 2000's, Peugeot (PSA Group) let Citroën did Citroën things, but nowadays, Citroëns are just sort of different Peugeot's. Let see in the future how it will be because Citroën released 2 years ago a totally new suspension with 20 new international patents. And the DS brand which is the luxurious Citroën brand will perhaps let us discover new innovations. Future will tell.

@@wowtomobile9898 even before the 2000s, Peugeot got their hands into Citroën to make them build more mainstream cars. They forbid Citroën to redesign the CX, and when they did in secret the Citroën designers were let go and replaced by Peugeot designers. Did Citroën still make impressive cars? Of course. The C6 I own is a true marvel of Citroën engineering. But Peugeot influence was felt immediatly after they aquired Citroën. The worst thing Peugeot did is letting the SM die completely instead of letting Citroën safe it. The SM is the most beautiful car ever made imo.

that hydropneumatic suspension is the reason why it's better to speed up at speed bumps in a ds lol you could do 80 km/h on a speed bump and hardly feel a thing

@@edbo10 Had Citroen BX once, When airborne through doing 60mph/100kmh or more over a hump in the road, it would self level while in the air for a second! and bounce alot upon landing, not ideal for Rallying ;)

@@punto182 self level in the air because you can't spill your passenger's drink lol

I had a 1989 BX it was great, yes it wasn't fast but it was a 1.9 diesel (no turbo) and I loved it that engine would go on forever. They are pretty much classics now, I wish I still had it.

@@nothingsurprisesmeanymore After the GSA 1.3 petrol we used to have BX facelift 1.6 TRS (96 BHP) version 1st registerd in January 1988 sadly no aircon but what a car! I miss it. One of my uncles had back in the 90`s 2 ZXs one was 1.9D (70 BHP i think) and later on newer ZX with 1.9TD (90 BHP). Also great cars etc. So I know what you`re talking about. Back in 2019 at one Citroën dealer an elderly gentelman brought Xantia 1.9TD (90 BHP) with 750 000km on the clock for regular maintenance! That was really bullet proof engine!

Whatever the car he's road testing, he makes us all want to by one! So addictive!

Me too...

Evan J It's just so cool isn't it? - I've been watching his videos for a while now, and every now and then I could see this in the background.

ME TOO!!! OMFG!!!! i Saied i wanted to see french cars especially Citroen or Renault! He read our comments!

Me too. Truly innovative and different. I drive a Xantia every day :)

A R12 or R8 Gordini

The XM, incidentially, is the most unreliable car ever sold under the Citroën name (and the most unreliable car PSA has ever made throughout the entire combined history of Peugeot-Citroën-Talbot). They were notorious for electrical failures, and in some cases even caught fire. For the XM they innovated on the hydropneumatic suspension with electronic leveling sensors and an extra sphere that allowed it to switch between hard and soft suspension depending on the quality of the road, but thanks to that fancy suspension combined with the unreliable electrical system, many of them ended up having suspension failures where the car would slouch to the one side or constantly wobbled back and forth when stopped on a hill because it kept trying to level the car out. They were great cars when they worked properly, but the problems were so widespread that they reworked the whole suspension system to make it more reliable and dealers had to swap out parts for the more reliable versions whenever the cars came in for the regular service. They never attempted that version of the system again, and for the C5 they went back to the old tried and true system

@@thesteelrodent1796 His suspension did fail once, the car just layed on the ground, haha.

Cool seeing you here. Huge fan of your videos

thanks Sam!

***** I, too, am a fan of TAOFLUGELHORN.

Maybe Jake Lennon and me can do a collab video together sometime!

***** was just watching one of your videos this morning :)

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Except that not riding high enough is almost never the reason that cars get stuck, go off the road, or cannot go on. If the snow is so deep that the average cars underbelly is touching it, then it's already too deep for most cars to travel though without 4WD and/or tire chains. Most cars get stuck or have to pull over long, long before the snow is anywhere near deep enough to bog a car down in it. If you were traveling while others were pulled over, it's almost certainly because you had front-wheel drive, and probably better tires or chains, while 99% of cars were still RWD in 1971. FWD is more controllable and puts the weight of the engine over the drive wheels. VW Beetles were good in the snow for the same reason, excpet being rear-engine as well as RWD, once you DID start to skid it was very difficult to recover. Point is, you traveled while others were stopped due to the FWD, not due to the suspension being able to raise. That probably helped very little.

@@kelharper7971 I had a French made Simca Bertone fast back in '64. It had a rear engine like the VW, so I could drive straight in 2 ft of snow with the light front end planing over the snow and the heavier rear tires diggen' in. It also got fifty mpg 40 yrs before hybrids. Makes me a believer that the oil companies own the auto industry. 🤑🤑🤑

@@kelharper7971 What you said is true but I know with experience (52 years driving in those conditions) that a raised body configuration was a definite help. It's not so much the fact that there would be an even high amount of snow on a road but that you would encounter a snow drift, your car would then lose it's momentum and be bogged down with it's underbelly jacked up. With less weight on the wheels, even under the engine, the tires would not have enough traction to pull the car out from a standing position. Radial tires, not in use at that time on american models, were also part of the deal.

How the hell did you get verified?

Haha that's what I'm wondering

Although I don't think Citroen had a US importer, a number of people imported them over the years until the emissions and safety regulations in this country became too hard to meet. I knew three people who owned both ID 19 and DS 21 models. There was a citroen specialist shop in Santa Cruz so owning them in the bay area wasn't impossible. I did some work on a couple, they are actually simple and not hard to care for. The hydraulic system is very well designed and everything is serviceable and repairable so long as you can source the parts. Was absolutely amazed how comfortable these, and French cars in general, actually are.

Nirodim [ROAD TO 500] interesting

Nirodim [ROAD TO 500] chicascalientess

This was your father’s car previously?

Hi, Philippe! This is Will's son. I was wondering if anyone in our family had commented on this video, and here you are! I sent this video to Will back in 2015, but I don't know if he ever saw it - he said his computer at the time was not able to watch RU-vid videos. I think I'll send it again to be sure he sees it. The old Citroen certainly looks happy now! I just wish Jay had kept the "We think your car looks funny too" license plate frame...

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@@compu85 Yes it was. Dad bought it new in France. We drove it around France for the summer, and then brought it back. Dad drove it for many years.

Don't u mean gasoline????

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Yes it would. In a sea of identical car styling dictated by aerodynamic and safety concerns the DS would stand alone, shining as brightly as it ever has.

Yes. Why don't car companies everywhere ever consider pulling out the old records and revisiting their past glory cars and just make them again? (Even with having to add the necessary modern safety upgrades they would still be a smash hit.)

@@johnl1685 The couple of times they've tried it, it was a disaster.

I knew it was a drum set (snares were turned off on the snare drum and was riffing between that and the upper tom tom), but didn't realize it was Art Blakey. Thanks for sharing that factoid. What was the name of the song? I've been trying to find the solo, but haven't been successful.

Yea me too

Jorge Morillo I would say the 61 Jag E type is the true beautiful, but this look nice too!

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The DS/ID always had drum brakes in the rear. The station wagon (“break”) had wider and finned drums with larger bore cylinders. Only the SM, which was based upon the DS, had rear disc brakes on modified DS suspension swing arms. The hydropneumatic suspension was not cost-effective. The extreme precision of many of the components, the blocs (“spheres”) added up to higher cost of manufacture. The market was not willing to pay extra as roads were greatly improved from the bombed, rutted roads following WWII. Conventional steel spring suspension had advanced greatly as well.

@@algrayson8965 thanks for the correction. Have amended my comment. My hydraulically sprung cars had discs all round (BX to C5). I now have steel sprung cars which have good suspension, but every so often on a piece of rough or badly cambered road, I get reminded that it is not quite a match to the old hydraulics!

beutiful? A 59 cadillac is beutiful, this i dont even have a word for, the design is not for everyone.

@@chevyguy1422 Nice comment but a 59 Cadillac is too OTT for me!

@@chevyguy1422 The Citroën D series and SM were designed as aircraft. Automobiles are primarily aircraft as at speeds above 40-45 mph aerodynamic drag becomes the consumer of the majority of energy consumed by moving the car. A ’59 Cadillac Sedan or Coupe DeVille is about as aerodynamic as a storage building on a trailer. My Dad had a ’55 Cadillac Fleetwood limo for a while. He had a ’71 Sedan DeVille, a ’66 Sedan DeVille, which I drove for a couple of years until a car driving at night without lights totaled it. I had a ’68 Sedan DeVille w/black leather. The 472 motor died from the chronic valve train problem. I had a ’76 Sedan DeVille that had the 500 in³ motor with Bosch D-Jetronic EFI. Its injectors kept springing leaks, so I found Nippondenso injectors that had the same specs but they had barbed fuel connections that I turned down to fit the Cadillac fuel rail. So I am familiar with Cadillacs, thank you. I thought that they were all ugly. However I don't choose cars for their styling. I really don't care about what a car looks like, within limits.

But of course.

+Monique V vous parlez encore français ? quand j'étais jeune j'ai connu un enfant qui vivait aux usa et venait en france revoir sa famille pendant les vacances . Il rigolait en voyant nos petites voitures en france.

+stephen10 Je parle francais encore...Je commencé à venir en France au début des années 1970

when did they stop being french?

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A car guy’s car guy. Shows the love and does his research.

What a beautiful car...

+HunterShows Of course, everything has trouble in the US, unless you lie about it some....

leneanderthalien Also because no French auto builder had a strong parts and service network in place. French cars being so unconventional needs that representation more than any other imports.

the Citroen trouble in the US was simply because of a lack of commitment in the market place, like Renault and Peugeot for that matter

Not just lack of commitment. Import protectionist laws came to play a very important roll. Industry lobbies are very powerful and made it quite visible. ;-)

Ja....Aber auch Tucker wurde systematisch ruiniert. Ford, Chevrolet und viele andere hatten kein Interesse an innovativer Technik. Billige Produktion war ihnen wichtiger, als moderne Technik für ihre Kunden.....

viva la france

Yeah, but it's not 100% French as Jay says: the iconic bodywork design is by Flaminio Bertoni (Italian).

Same in Yugoslavia!

Here in Portugal we call it ‘boca de sapo’ (toad’s mouth) ;)

My croatian friends told me, in croatia they called the car "ajkula." (The croatian word for shark) So interesting, that spain called it also shark in their language. Wow.

Eh berda

In dutch it's nicknamed "snoek", pike in english.

Ja sad u Americi zivim tako da nisam vidio ni jednog vec 20+ godina a i dalje mi je jedno od najdrazih auta ikad.

Osamdesetih sam radio u Sarajevu i upoznao možda jednog od najsposobnijih majstora za "ajkule". Sećam se da je na Jahorinu išao bez problema po snegu preko 20 cm! Od njega sam naučio koliko je to čudesan i brilijantan automobil. U današnjem svetu jednoumlja, ovakva sinergija estetskog, inžinjerskog nadahnuća deluje nestvarno. Nije čudo što i dalje deluje vanzemaljski, kao i onda 1955-e, kada se pojavila na Pariskom autosajmu.

Aboleo80 Meni je mama pricala kako su se dijeca iz njene zgrade okupljala i gledala tzv. "žabu" (tako mi zovemo ovu ljepoticu) kako se podiže s tla i krece. Uvijek mi se sviđao, ali sada je prvi na listi auta iz snova! :D

Abo

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Can confirm. I owned an Austin Allegro (please don't shoot me!) and although it was severely underpowered - overtaking was planned 2 miles beforehand - it was incredibly comfortable. Dropping off a kerbstone wasn't felt. The roads were silky smooth and it actually handled really well. The Allegro went on to make toasters because one day I put it into reverse and let out the clutch. The wheels moved as they should but the car remained stationary. All of the link arms and suspension had literally rotted out from the car body on both (front) sides. Rust and British cars went hand in hand.

You got jewed

Mid-1960's through 1980 Rolls Royce used Citroen suspension bits for the Silver Shadow.

@@jackking5567 The hydragas system was passive in that there was no engine driven high pressure pump as in the Citroen.