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1981 primitive Internet report on KRON 

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Long before anyone had heard of the Internet, early home computer users could read their morning newspapers online ... sort of. Steve Newman's 1981 story was broadcast on KRON San Francisco.

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@jcbaker10
@jcbaker10 11 лет назад
Examiner editor: "We're not in it to make money." Judging by what the Internet did to newspapers, truer words were never spoken.
@micahnightwolf
@micahnightwolf 7 лет назад
2 hours to download a fairly small amount of text, with a $5/hour connection charge? Meanwhile, I'm sitting here watching about it in a RU-vid video that I downloaded in 5 seconds over a 4G wireless connection on a custom gaming rig that I built myself and paid only $600 for. We've come a long way. But never forget that the people who invented 300bps modems, rotary dial landline phones, 5 1/2" floppy disks, and giant reel-to-reel tape cabinets helped pave the way to where we are today. And cheers to you, makers of our future!
@MikeLazarus
@MikeLazarus 10 лет назад
I just can't see this taking off ... these newfangled technologies are too expennsive
@Kazilikaya
@Kazilikaya 6 лет назад
Nowadays, nobody reads the paper anymore!
@RedEye06
@RedEye06 10 лет назад
To think most of us are now watching this video from our phones.
@astoria25
@astoria25 15 лет назад
WOW. It just goes to show you that KRON had the sense to identify an innovation that was going to lead to a major trend. The reporter and editor who worked on this 1981 report should be found and hired now to help save the media industry of today.
@rubengardinerart
@rubengardinerart 10 лет назад
i bet in 30 years time, ppl would be cracking up at our technology commercials now! :D
@DataWaveTaGo
@DataWaveTaGo 8 лет назад
+Ruben Gardiner In 30 years they probably won't even want to view anything more than two seconds old.
@blowinendox420x
@blowinendox420x 9 лет назад
OMG WILL THIS EVER COME TRUE!?!?!?!
@bobjenz
@bobjenz 15 лет назад
Wow that's a hilarious opening line...
@EliasPinto
@EliasPinto 10 лет назад
Wow... it took a little more than 10 years to make every person in this video either out of the job, or have their job completely turned inside out. That guy on the street had no idea what was coming...
@SteelSkin667
@SteelSkin667 13 лет назад
"It takes over two hours to recieve the entire text of a newspaper over the phone..." HOLY CRAP!
@wompasdub
@wompasdub 14 лет назад
I am a web programmer this is good stuff. Thanks for the upload it is always fun seeing what things used to be like I can remember connecting to an external dial up modem and nobody knew what the internet was
@HappyFoxIsHappy
@HappyFoxIsHappy 15 лет назад
It's so interesting watching these news reports and documentaries on old computers and ideas for them. Always good to learn from the past. :P
@hobbified
@hobbified 11 лет назад
It was CompuServe. You're right that it wasn't connected to the internet until several years later, but CompuServe was larger and more advanced than the average BBS. They had access numbers all over the country, and their own pre-IP packet-switched network to move data to and from customers.
@matthewmcneil3337
@matthewmcneil3337 10 лет назад
No comics? Deal breaker.
@InfiniteUniverse88
@InfiniteUniverse88 9 лет назад
It would be refreshing to have simple, straight to the point interfaces like the one's in 1981. Too many bright colors and flashy images this day and age.
@TheThecount5
@TheThecount5 2 года назад
In my first job out of college at the Associated Press, I worked on this. At the time, I overheard the managing editor ask, "Why would anyone ever want to read the AP wire on a computer?"
@Kram6298
@Kram6298 11 лет назад
Most amazing line: "the estimated two to three thousand home computer owners in the Bay area". I knew 1981, 1981 was a friend of mine but I'd have guessed that "home" computer owners were more numerous that in "the Bay area" by that time.
@myun7853
@myun7853 Год назад
"owns home computer" this is just brilliant
@deyoungparker
@deyoungparker 15 лет назад
I love that the most cutting edge tech geek in the city in 1981 was some old codger. The next time my mother-in-law complains that she still can't figure out how to open an attachment, I'm gonna show her this vid.
@taltigolt
@taltigolt 13 лет назад
NO ads where can i buy it
@lensellers
@lensellers 15 лет назад
I'm impressed, David Cole. This was a decade before a real browser. You really saw it coming.
@TomasRemotigue
@TomasRemotigue 15 лет назад
Love it when "owns computer" is a sufficient caption for the news.
@johncalvinhall
@johncalvinhall 10 лет назад
I remember this! I feel so old. :)
@MrTellyGunner
@MrTellyGunner 13 лет назад
"Copy it to paper and save it!" Priceless...
@arru23
@arru23 11 лет назад
This story was way ahead of its time, good reporting if you ask me
@chrishophoto
@chrishophoto 14 лет назад
Love the shot of the red rotary dial phone! There are a lot of places where a telephone like that won't even work now if you plug it into a wall.
@sbalogh53
@sbalogh53 14 лет назад
@JesusManson323 I started on the internet in 1987 when I hooked up our college to the "rest of the world". It was a 56kbps connection and everything was text based. No graphics and about 10 years before the web took off. Connections were "telnet", file transfer was "FTP", and searches were with "gopher". One of our system programmers wrote a rudimentary real-time chat program using a split screen display. That was awesome for the time. We had fun chatting with random people mainly in the USA.
@alarob
@alarob 15 лет назад
Love the rotary-dial phone and handset-cradle modem. Takes me back.
@Gwalchgwyn
@Gwalchgwyn 15 лет назад
I remember when I finally upgraded to a 56k v92 modem and was excited by blistering download speeds of over 4KB a second! This clip is almost as old as me, yet the real advances have been made in only the last ten or fifteen years - I was still playing Unreal via dialup at the turn of the millenium... now I'm flying gunships across a vast, frozen battlefield on affordable 10Mb fibre-optic. I can't wait to see what's next...
@geeisthisnametaken
@geeisthisnametaken 15 лет назад
No ads!! They don't know how good they had it in '81.
@danrichards23
@danrichards23 14 лет назад
@bestbytesmedia lol, you just reminded me of this older guy i know, it took him three days to figure out how to get his computer to say "hello charles" it was his first home computer. i dont think he had ever used one either. i love seeing the old technology that i wasnt aware of. i only used the shitty old programs at school. i was born 1981. i loved oregon trail. thats what makes a dull life like mine fun. looking back at how far we have come.
@ldarroch
@ldarroch 15 лет назад
Best part was the throw-away line at the end: btw, it takes 2 hours to download it. So that's 2 hours without an available phone line in your home... superb!
@Saihtam001
@Saihtam001 14 лет назад
"... with the exception of pictures, ads and the comics." How the tables have turned.
@JesusManson323
@JesusManson323 14 лет назад
I would love to meet someone who has been on the Internet since 1981. I jumped online in March 1995 and I thought I was a "veteran".
@jymdavis
@jymdavis 15 лет назад
that red phone rocks. I like these computers better than todays.
@MrElectroman80
@MrElectroman80 13 лет назад
I'm from Russia and we didn't even have computers tn the 80's! And you already had electronic networks in America at the time! All I can say is WOW! WOW! WOW! ))))))))
@booneification
@booneification 14 лет назад
2 hours to receive the text of the newspaper....2 hours! jeeeesus. Thank god I was born in the mid 80's and only had to deal with dialup for a short time before broadband and highspeed took off.
@Fpockets
@Fpockets 10 лет назад
17 years later I bought my very first computer and was able to look at dirty pictures...I mean read the news from websites on the web.
@KentPetersonmoney
@KentPetersonmoney 11 лет назад
I was just writing a story that takes place in 1984. This guy has the ability to create technology ahead of his time. It then Had me thinking was there an internet back then. My character knew what the internet was but the other girls his age didn't. I imagine most people didn't know what the internet was back then.
@AnimeFanPan0
@AnimeFanPan0 13 лет назад
I hope newspapers themselves just stay forever... it's part of how we get info when we aren't on the net or not watching tv
@oamericanos69
@oamericanos69 9 лет назад
Holy crap, someone used the phrase "We're not in it to make money" in connection with the Internet.
@feitclub
@feitclub 15 лет назад
My favorite part was the caption on the guy "Owns Home Computer," as that was so damn unusual at the time.
@cheburashka99
@cheburashka99 15 лет назад
I love the subhead for one of the interview subjects "Owns Home Computer"! LOL Also, I'm amazed to see local news that's actually... news! Not a melange of car chases, puppies, celebritainment and thinly disguised commercials.
@rbatty90210
@rbatty90210 14 лет назад
I love how she says "computer" at the beginning. It's especially funny since we don't even say "computer" anymore.
@FuhQTube
@FuhQTube 15 лет назад
Wow, the news lights up Mr. Halloran's TRS-80 "television!" Incredible! And after seeing this, I never again want to see a newspaper griping about the Internet wrecking their business!
@Dms12444
@Dms12444 15 лет назад
1: A TRS 80, amazing how advanced that computer was when it came out, in comparison to people looking at it as an antique today. 2:And that was just 30 years ago, wow and now we have video's and TV online. Just wait another 50 years and who knows what will happen.
@zizwop
@zizwop 13 лет назад
@Y0ssariantheAssyrian Magazines and newspapers used typewriters for plain text, and a process called paste up-just like it sounds. Headlines, pictures, were printed out and laid out -literally cut and pasted-on single grid-like sheets, then turned into negatives, which then went to the printer. A lot of publications were still using this into the 90s. Seems archaic now.
@TheMushtyroo
@TheMushtyroo 11 лет назад
How I miss the nostalgic glow of those green CRT monitors, they give me a warm fuzzy feeling inside...or perhaps that was just the EMF emission :)
@ab37z
@ab37z 13 лет назад
No Ads ! I want this system.
@josquin101554
@josquin101554 15 лет назад
Who would of thought it -- 28 years later and the whole newspaper business model is on the verge of extinction.
@zxcv1234vcxz
@zxcv1234vcxz 11 лет назад
"$5 an hour won't be much competition for the 20 cent street edition" How times have changed. It took two hours in 1981 because modems were 300 baud, or about 7 words per second by dialup. Now transfer rates are in the 100s and 1000s of kilobytes per second. That same 1981 newspaper would transfer in seconds today.
@llboyd
@llboyd 11 лет назад
Technology always looks like progresses much faster when looking back. I think this is a great reminder that things almost always progress much slower than we think - especially when it comes to mass adoption and scalability. Re: "...a few years off".
@tsntana
@tsntana 15 лет назад
We never thought those "electronic newspapers" would be so "spiffy looking". :)
@stainonsociety3451
@stainonsociety3451 14 лет назад
Lmao @ 0:35 thats brilliant, I thought I knew alot about vintage computers but i've never seen that before.
@robinwestmiller
@robinwestmiller 15 лет назад
ON THE TRS-80!! My very first computer. Still have it in my garage. Radio Shack Computer Catalog in like looking at old baby photos.
@smnabil
@smnabil 12 лет назад
‎1981, the year when I was born... and other great things followed :p
@SamAronow
@SamAronow 15 лет назад
I'm amazed that many people owned home computers in 1981.
@mUrmeLi39
@mUrmeLi39 Год назад
and here we are now, what a trip
@sumerates
@sumerates 15 лет назад
omg ! i cant imagine sitting home and read newspaper on my pc!! amazing
@MikeColburn
@MikeColburn 15 лет назад
This report is so ironic in so many levels! Good find!
@NateDykstra
@NateDykstra 15 лет назад
2 hours to get the whole paper. $5/hr of usage. I'm glad 1981 was the year I was born. SIMMONS FOREVER!
@tkwhere585
@tkwhere585 10 лет назад
Dang...we didn't have a home computer until '93 & all I could do was play Oregon Trail & type reports!
@whenhen
@whenhen 15 лет назад
Ray Kurzweil did a book about that. He said that in 2048 we should expect to have computers that are as powerful as the human brain.
@geekmorgan
@geekmorgan 15 лет назад
I think this says the most about 1981: Richard Halloran "Owns Home Computer"
@ranzenberger
@ranzenberger 15 лет назад
Actually, the company that owned the Examiner in those days, Hearst, bought the Chronicle across town. The Chron (which owned KRON-TV) always had a stronger brand identity anyway.
@plateshutoverlock
@plateshutoverlock 13 лет назад
I had a B+W portable TV and computer setup back in the mid 1980s :)
@gromby783
@gromby783 12 лет назад
We used one at my parents house up until around 1991. They still work today I believe.
@thanez86
@thanez86 15 лет назад
this is gonna be so awesome when it comes out. can't wait till i can read this 'electronic' newspaper
@mst3k4evr
@mst3k4evr 14 лет назад
@neil73 I had that "the internet is for nerds" attitude until the beginning of 1997 when I became obsessed with celebrity birthdays. I went on the internet for the first time and the rest is history. :)
@aztecex
@aztecex 13 лет назад
Wow! Technology is awesome! Can't wait for the fast phone connection to download my paper!
@Petrhrabal
@Petrhrabal 12 лет назад
Lets imagine having morning coffee and holding real physical printed newspapers in your hands!
@earthweek
@earthweek 14 лет назад
Fair enough. The whole title of this video should have been "Beginning of the end of print journalism" but my first impression of my report as I uploaded it was that it was the beginning of personal online computing ... hence the Internet.
@blueoak116
@blueoak116 10 лет назад
In 1982 I got a Apple II Plus with a max of 64K memory. It could display text but only in uppercase, I believe. The Examiner at the time was at the head of it's game.
@ximono
@ximono 15 лет назад
Love how the dude at 1:57 tries to read what's on the tiny black and green monitor :D
@TheRosemontag
@TheRosemontag 11 лет назад
Imagine 32 years later, a certain woman watching this very same video. Sitting down to her morning coffee turning on her laptop, smart phone or other such device to watch this video.....well what do you know it's that same woman watching herself 32 years ago.
@petey8887
@petey8887 15 лет назад
"We're not going to lose a lot," said David Cole of the San Francisco Examiner; not realizing that what he was working on would eventually cause the death of his industry.
@NYCisland
@NYCisland 15 лет назад
The Internet existed way before graphical browsers like Mosaic and Netscape came into use. It's those browsers that made the Internet more suitable to the common people instead of universities and government. CompuServe and other services definitely existed way before, I remember those days, dialing up into a BBS and communicating with other users on whatever help or tech forum you wanted.
@Fredrick2003
@Fredrick2003 15 лет назад
I want that to be my title if I ever get on television.
@thegreatujo
@thegreatujo 15 лет назад
...loved the old-skool modem connected on the on the rotary phone....
@wankstankonia
@wankstankonia 10 лет назад
Now you have to pay someone on craigslist, fiverr or such site to transcribe the newspaper and email it to you. The good ol' days!
@EditGuy6610
@EditGuy6610 15 лет назад
Holy mackerel! An acoustic coupler for the modem!!
@americancitizen748
@americancitizen748 8 лет назад
Then entire world will never need more than about 5000 computers.
@DataWaveTaGo
@DataWaveTaGo 8 лет назад
+American Citizen c'mon. There were already millions of computers of all types installed and used. I had about 4 at home myself.
@jellybean_91
@jellybean_91 15 лет назад
How far we've come in such a short time...
@DaveWardPhoto
@DaveWardPhoto 15 лет назад
I remember very well that modem speeds back then were measured in CPS -- characters per second. That's how slow it was. Two hours to download a (text only) newspaper sounds about right for the time.
@Dudeonwheels
@Dudeonwheels 15 лет назад
Little did they know 29 years later these electronic newspapers would put traditional printed newspapers out of business. This was almost like watching the beginning sequence of 2001: A Space Odyssey. 1981 was the dawn of modern civilization. And I was born a mere 4 years later. If I were a computer, I'd be non functioning and sitting in a museum or something.
@AusDisciple
@AusDisciple 15 лет назад
Classic!! Tandy TRS80's!! I still have my TRS80 (grey case model) and it still works! I've had it since new. I upgraded it to a whopping 64KB (KILObytes!!) of RAM and added a 'real' keyboard to it. :)
@moiseslima
@moiseslima 15 лет назад
Wow! I can't wait to have this service in my house!
@Grey-Soul
@Grey-Soul 15 лет назад
Get all of our newspapers and magazines on to our home computers? ?? THAT'S CRAZY TALK!!!!!!!!!! ;)
@JesusManson323
@JesusManson323 14 лет назад
@jaqandant So true..."hey let's put the news on this 'Internet' thingy. It will totally help us sell newspapers!" Sounds like a great idea!
@P00P0STER0US
@P00P0STER0US 13 лет назад
Love that old computer stuff.
@serzone
@serzone 15 лет назад
2 hours to download the paper... no photos, no comics. wow!
@18sharkkiller
@18sharkkiller 15 лет назад
omg, i never knew we could have our newspaper on a computer
@TerraFelicia
@TerraFelicia 12 лет назад
"We're not in it to make money..." I bet they wish they would have have thought about that line differently.
@peacelord
@peacelord 12 лет назад
In one of the outtakes, you can see Richard Halloran yelling at his cat to get away from his piano.
@vortexlisa
@vortexlisa 11 лет назад
Imagine if you will, sitting down to your morning coffee turning on your laptop, smart phone or other such device to watch this video... wonder if she ever expected that one.
@earthweek
@earthweek 14 лет назад
That would be me. Still kicking and reporting in print and on radio.
@whocareslol222222
@whocareslol222222 12 лет назад
reading the daily news on my computer?!?!? crazy talk
@Wedge4Life
@Wedge4Life 11 лет назад
Wow I can't wait to try this!
@rectus
@rectus 15 лет назад
I enjoyed streaming this on RU-vid.
@readordiefanatic
@readordiefanatic 15 лет назад
wow, this is amazing, little did these people know that they were discussing something that would become huge in the future
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