I was actually there on that very day... We came the day before and I could not even see a track... It was all grass until they laid out the tape boundaries and started practicing... I was 12 when I watched this race
@@onlygazza Let me tell you something if you come at race day and just see the normal race fans everything's normal... If you choose to camp It's the wildest party scene you've ever seen... My 1st time in the early eighties the police were scared at night and went home.. The night before Bon fire was out of hand must have been 10 cars on the pile before daylight.... Truly get the witness the most humorous and horrifying aspects of humanity..lol
I have been racing since 1977 and still going!!! Man I grew up idolized Bailey Ward RJ Dogger Hurricane Oshow Dubach Holley Magoo Carla etc this sure brings back memories !!! DB so smooth, I had the pleasure of meeting him at Minneapolis sx some years back, what a gentleman, we spoke about ten minutes, discussed his rides at Millville, I remember racing amateur days back in the early 80s and meeting him back then !!! I had to join this channel, simply amazing- thank you
Look at this track.... the way motocross is supposed to be. Not outdoor supercross. Why can't they leave the track alone. Let it get bumpy, take away all the silly man-made jumps. I was lucky enough to race there in 1986. What would a track like this do to modern-era Pro's?
Well the suspension has evolved like crazy and a 450 is very lazy and makes power with ease,dont even have to run them on the pipe.i dont think it would be what you are expecting it to be.i think if you let a modern top 3 250f or 450 rider ride this track in the way it was today youd have a few lap records broken.i think even the 125 husqvarna that raced this year makes more power and better suspension then the top 3s of the date of the video
@@Sparaco487 Yes, of course, lap records would be crushed, without a doubt. The bikes now are so much more advanced. However, the laps would be so much slower than they are now. The flat freeway the track has become now has created multiple sections of full throttle high speed riding. Why not put the riders to a physical test with an rough track.
Like someone else said here the tracks today are simply outdoor Supercross tracks. This is what I raced on and they beat the shit out of me and most of the riders.
Gary....dude!!! You've been holding out on us with all these great videos! David sure was stylin in the first moto....railing those berms and jumping the whoops and tabletop. I miss the old Unadilla....that thing was rough. It looked like RJ and Broc were fighting to keep those Yamaha's on the track....
Amazing how Glover could even challenge Bailey with the horrible Yamaha suspension speaks volumes for Brock. Would have loved to see Magoo and the Golden Boy riding Honda works bikes together they would have been unbeatable.
@@pressrolls why yes it did ..but that was far from a stock shock or linkage..and 4 speed motor was a winner from day one and the bike was very stable making it really good for the socal tracks of the time
And Mr. Bailey. You did it. You did it sir. You earned a great life, (as far as I can see). I did also, but not as well as you IMO. Do you realize, that we are in the top 10 or even top 5 percentile, when it comes to great lives lived in the history of mankind, (which was mostly barbaric before and after the USA IMO.). I like to ponder that fact. But I am sad because that is falling to the right side of peak HP on the curve. I don't believe we need to suffer to earn good lives, or God would have given us the brain of a animal. We are suppose to think, do well, and enjoy life. I have. You helped Mr. Bailey. Thank you for your knowledge. Much appreciated. Doug in Michigan
Kees Van Der Van on a KTM winning against on a stacked field, had to be the biggest KTM win to date in the US and a huge upset on this day, Kees was a great sand rider also. Love watching David Baily ride, waaaay smooth. I believe Heinz Kinigadner won a couple of 250 World Championships for KTM, 84, 85? Thanks for posting!!
Yep, he beat the best american riders on the best american track. He was the only euro to win there, unless you want to call ’81 winner ,neil hudson fron great britian a euro. I dont think hed consider himself a euro. The americans owned ’dilla.
Excellent video. Thank You. Fast riders, Rough track, second Moto the last half, still charging. American riders were excellent, was surprised by KTM of Kees Van der Ven. He looked good, smooth.
If I can ever figure out how to make a time machine, there are great happenings of the past in the USA that I would love to visit, (and maybe live). 2 things I can think of now. 1) I would love to go to the worlds fair of Chicago in 1893 to see George Westinghouse light up the fair with AC electric current. (the start of all greatness) 2) I think I would like to come to this race to watch the pros, and to race the amateur classes, bringing my modified 2019 YZ250 2-stroke, but with my company name on it. :)
Thank you so much for uploading this. So good to see these world class riders on the old original style Unadilla track with Larry Myers calling the race.
My dad was at this race. When I was a kid he would show me hundreds of pictures he took while he was there. I see in the video when Bailey is riding the spots where his pictures were taken. Awesome!
Modern riders say this early 12" of suspension is soft. But this is when 12" of suspension travel was used for the bumps on the track, as the jumps were not that big yet. Today, they are set up for the huge jumps, but can't keep their wheels on the ground in the smaller, (but faster) bumps, when they form. I see a lot of deflection today in the chatter, that this old soft suspension would soak up IMO.
Awesome thanks First of the modern water cooled monshock KTM..I had 1983 250. Good but gears notchy. Curious into what lap times then compared to today?
I was there that day and remember the pre race interview and Kees Van der Ven was asked if he was going to win. His answer was "the best man will win". For some reason that stuck with me all these years.
Well, that is true. But-------he may have said that because he was humble, or he did not have enough confidence to say "I am going to win". I loved it when a racer would say he was going to win. Notice, you don't hear that from any 450 guy today,---with 8 guys on the same second with redundant tracks they all have wired. Just saying, I miss greatness. I hate a parade now@!@!!!!!!! :)
