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Tom Archer visits Bristol, where posing is rife. The epicentre of this outbreak of voguish vanity is thought to be Bristol University's Wills Building, where the most dapper university students congregate each lunchtime to see and be seen. The phenomenon has been dubbed "Wills at One", and it is thought to be contagious.
Tom interviews various young people hanging around Bristol's colleges, streets and bars about the way they dress. Do they think of themselves as poseurs?
This clip is from RPM (Rectangular Picture Machine), originally broadcast 24 January, 1983.
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@DavidJMann
@DavidJMann Год назад
Love this. The 80’s was one of the best decades for expression when it came to fashion. So experimental, much like the 60’s!
@2Sorts
@2Sorts Год назад
I turned 21 in December 1989 and so was lucky enough to have lived my teen years in the 80s. It really was the best time to have been a teenager, of course nobody actually knew it at the time!
@ajs41
@ajs41 Год назад
Funny thing is that I was only 1 to 11 during the 80s but I was following the music for most of that time and really enjoyed it. Obviously couldn't understand a lot of the lyrics but you could tell the music was fantastic even at the age of 5 or 6.
@tonyclifton265
@tonyclifton265 Год назад
2:09 love that guy with the hardcore bristol accent, especially after all the posh toffs
@vamboroolz1612
@vamboroolz1612 Год назад
In 1983 I was 18 years old,( same age as those in this film), working building sites as an apprentice joiner. Working in conditions and at a job that I hated but couldnt give up as there were so very few job opportunities. My life was the polar opposite of the people in this film. I guess that is what comes of having parents that are well off, their kids could choose. I still ended up with a good life but it was a different journey.
@thebadgamer1967
@thebadgamer1967 Год назад
Were roughly around the same working class backgrounds honestly would you want to be these people? Me hell no
@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou
@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou Год назад
Not everyone at university was posh. The grant gave well-read, super intelligent , over-achieving, working class kids like myself a way out of the misery of physical labour...just in time for physical labour to start paying much better than intellectual work. I couldn't believe it when I heard about thick kids from my school buying flashy cars and decent houses. If I could go back in time I would learn a trade and become a Loadsamoney
@damienmorrison7226
@damienmorrison7226 Год назад
@@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou thick kids...theres nothing worse than reverse snobbery ..more fool you
@Michael-dp2uj
@Michael-dp2uj Год назад
Yes you did. You could have worked a bit harder to go to university
@mAiSiEbOOOO
@mAiSiEbOOOO Год назад
A free education should be available for all highly intelligent pupils. Select them at primary level, and give them the best secondary education they deserve, whether they be middle-class or working-class. Let those children with mediocre intellects or who are just plain stupid do apprenticeships.
@nicholasanderson9019
@nicholasanderson9019 Год назад
Can we just appreciate how brilliant this channel this
@oxouk
@oxouk Год назад
Absolutely!
@TinLeadHammer
@TinLeadHammer Год назад
How this channel this what?
@MichaelBosley
@MichaelBosley Год назад
Guy at 2:56 would easily fit in today. Funny that all the punks had Bristol accents and the posh kids had the cravats.
@eluna34
@eluna34 Год назад
" I fought for this at the Harrods sale" has translated nicely into modern times.
@lewis7515
@lewis7515 Год назад
I mean.....it is a Crombie, after all?.. He still has that coat - or his son wears it.
@layditms2
@layditms2 Год назад
oh gawd these avatars styled like how we grew up
@sammemrys8195
@sammemrys8195 Год назад
Whatever the motivation, I applaud the effort.
@thecaveofthedead
@thecaveofthedead Год назад
Students start dressing down at the end of the '50s. The establishment: "Scruffs!" Students start dressing up at the beginning of the '80s. The establishment: "Poseurs!"
@OlafProt
@OlafProt Год назад
I always remember poseur being something of an insult when I was at school in the 80s. 😂
@andrewp1075
@andrewp1075 Год назад
I was only a youngster during the 80s but I remember seeing more diverse subcultures/tribes then, than I did in any other decade subsequently. Rockers, Punks, Skins, Surfers and Goths ....the Goths definitely looked the most exotic.
@theoriginalbluey
@theoriginalbluey 10 месяцев назад
Best comment. Since then it's as if most have rebelled against being rebellious!
@spidyman8853
@spidyman8853 6 месяцев назад
The Punks, Rockers, Goths with their hair style and Dark dress used to scare the hell outa me
@soundseeker63
@soundseeker63 Год назад
"I fought for this in the Harrods sale" proper made me 😆 A nice little insight into the world view of these privileged Uni kids from affluent backgrounds. How the other half live, and all... That being said, whatever class or background it was definitely a diverse and expressive time, fashion and culture wise. People's personality and quirks were more in evidence in their dress sense than they are today. I'm not saying I miss the 80's fashions per-say, but I do miss that diversity of styles and range of expression.
@layditms2
@layditms2 Год назад
uh now literally raids 80's styles
@lndnflms484
@lndnflms484 Год назад
Wearing something flamboyant, original or daring then was a national pastime for many of us in the 1980s. It was still going in the 1990s, but with each year that goes past, you see it less and less. I think it is perhaps because young people now express themselves in their online identities.
@benkasminbullock
@benkasminbullock Год назад
I don't think there were that many people posing like this. I used to walk past this building nearly every day, and go to the Students' Union building all the time in the early 1980s, and hardly saw anyone like the people in the video. There was somewhere called the "Dugout Club" down the road from this building on Park Row where more of these might be found.
@eily_b
@eily_b Год назад
Time that 80s fashion makes a real comeback. I've seen some mullets reappearing but the 80s were much more than that. I had awesome striped jeans and shirts with newspaper print. Some neon stuff, wild patterns in orange and teal on a white blouse and shorts with ancle high Nikes and short hair in the back and a wild tuft at the front! Best clothes and stlye I ever had!
@theoriginalbluey
@theoriginalbluey 10 месяцев назад
That sounds so awesome. I was similar, and hate that I 'toned down'!
@JarrodBaniqued
@JarrodBaniqued Год назад
Having attended a very middle-class public university in the late 2010s, I think most Zoomers nowadays go for a utilitarian ethos in fashion and have never really cared about the question of who’s a “poseur”. It’s fascinating that 1980s society was a bit more interested in that question.
@northernsnow6982
@northernsnow6982 Год назад
Really? What do you think a name dropper is? A person who poses as a celebrities friend, to get clout. Clout anther poser-like word. How about a troll on the interiorweb? Aren't they mentally posing, as people who actually think differently than they really do? How about at the workplace? People are constantly being posers at work. We just tend call them, brown nosers. How about any time, you've heard someone say, "that person is so fake"? Every time that happens, someone is using a different term for somebody being a poser. Religious people would call it, being a hypocrite. There are too many of those that exist. Just because you specifically don't use the word poser, doesn't mean the idea isn't still in full swing. Any time you've said, "I don't like the way your acting", what you are actually saying is, I don't like how you're pretending/posing to be the way you are? You feel the person isn't being normal or real, aka they are being a poser. Around the time of the video, people used words like rad, or bogus and ralph. Just because those words aren't popular anymore, doesn't mean we don't think things are still cool, or other things are ungenuine, and that we've stopped puking. Don't worry people are just as shallow today, as they were in the 80's. If anything more people are shallow these days. That's why so many people are called, phonies, to this day. People only concentrate on what seems obvious. Though they can't see what's truly obvious, even if it's spelled out for them.
@evelynwaugh4053
@evelynwaugh4053 Год назад
Perhaps this was just a California variation on a theme, but it was used then and there to signify a person who dressed like a a punk or a new wave music fan without knowing anything about the music. I think there are a lot of young people today who misrepresent themselves on social media, for example, by faking being rich, posing with a private plane or in first class, ad nauseum. The 80s use of poseur had more to do with not being hip to a scene.
@layditms2
@layditms2 Год назад
lol because they raid all our generation's and culture's and cultural heritage's styles why would they want to face that
@skyworm8006
@skyworm8006 Год назад
@@northernsnow6982 None of these things are a 'poser'. Vaguely related things isn't the same. Based on this video 'poser' sounds like some undefined group with affected fashion they all know and have in mind, rather than literally saying someone in particular for a particular reason is fake or affected, which you would only say if it was really obvious and obnoxious, or you feel threatened. As if you could be a poser with something like clothes anyway, the only qualification to begin with is that you're wearing them. From this video, it seems more like tribalism. Which is a classic thing that happens with popular labels. The posers are a supposedly clearcut group everyone knows is worthy of derision, yet no one is really sure who is a poser and what makes them one, because the notion is removed from specific context and made into a tribe. A bad word to escape.
@northernsnow6982
@northernsnow6982 Год назад
@@skyworm8006 look up the definition of poseur, and the synonyms for the word. You'll find the definition says, "a person who pretends to be what he or she is not." You'll find some of the synonyms, support the words/scenarios I used. Words like, "pretenders, fakes, phonies, hypocrites, impostor, impersonator, imitators, mimics", amongst many other similar words, including "poser". Then come back and try and say, whatever it is you were saying. Try to say it more clearly, and precisely. Try to understand the word, before teaching a lesson on it. Or just try to save face, and make yourself look more of a tryhard. Whatever you do, just don't try to fool me, when you haven't got a clue, ya intelligence poseur/poser/faker/pretender.
@jasonayres
@jasonayres Год назад
I like how some of the young folk weren't "taking the bait". Tom was trying to create a narrative, or an argument, maybe. (2:10) Quite wise.
@petergivenbless900
@petergivenbless900 Год назад
Acid flashbacks of 'The Young Ones' and 'Comic Strip Presents... '.
@growlerthe2nd712
@growlerthe2nd712 10 месяцев назад
The young ones was filmed in Bristol
@marmadukegrimwig
@marmadukegrimwig Год назад
Ahhhhh. Bristol Uni in the’80s. Brilliant fun.
@garryleeks4848
@garryleeks4848 Год назад
0: 40 young Boris doing some posing 😮
@lewis7515
@lewis7515 Год назад
They look - and sound - so mature!?....They're only 20 years old at the oldest but most of them seem more like they're pushing 30.
@ajs41
@ajs41 Год назад
Because up until about 1990 it was fashionable for young people to try to seem or look older than they actually were. From about 1990 onwards the opposite started to become the case. Take an 80s band like Heaven 17 for example. They all look like they're in their 30s at the height of their popularity (in about 1983) but were actually 10 years younger. One of the members of the band actually dyed his hair grey.
@kingdicer8677
@kingdicer8677 Год назад
ha ha brilliant snapshot of good ol'brizzle in the 80's
@farzadjahanfard
@farzadjahanfard Год назад
I fought for this in harrods sale 😂😂 humble posh
@paulief3817
@paulief3817 13 дней назад
I don't remember young people who dressed in alternative fashion or who were members of a music based subculture being referred to as poseurs. It was the ones who slavisly followed the current trend that we called poseurs. There were specific pubs and clubs that they frequented where the drinks had umbrellas in them and they danced round their handbags on the floor.
@katevines3646
@katevines3646 3 месяца назад
Most of these people will be much older now and deeply embarrassed about their looks now - I would love to see an update so funny
@ceefaxbbctv8788
@ceefaxbbctv8788 Год назад
I would love to know what they are all doing today
@susanroche597
@susanroche597 5 месяцев назад
It’s fun to see how each generation deals with trends
@shaunigothictv1003
@shaunigothictv1003 Год назад
There were no Bristol accents in this program until right at the end.
@ajs41
@ajs41 Год назад
2:09 sounded like one to me, although I'm from B'ham.
@shaunigothictv1003
@shaunigothictv1003 Год назад
@@ajs41 Possibly at 2:09 but definitely at the end.
@mattjames4978
@mattjames4978 4 месяца назад
I was born in the late 70s and can remember the term 'poser' being a derogatory term throughout the 80s... "look at that poser!" meant someone who had expensive clothes - and he/she had made no other effort. They are still going strong today, I'd say!
@mc-yt2rc
@mc-yt2rc 6 месяцев назад
I remember walking through Kingsbridge, Devon, with an "80's" all star " t" shirt on, thinking , this is it! I'm going to be different! i'm going to be somebody!!! I was eight. I never got to be anyone....
@DarylBaines
@DarylBaines 11 месяцев назад
Sheffield Uni 1984: This looks so familiar. A lot of this style and creativity came from the social mixing that free education facilitated. The exclucivity created by excessive uni fees has led to a great cultural loss in the UK. Very short-sighted and sad.
@MaxFleye
@MaxFleye Год назад
All the poseurs are on social media now.
@layditms2
@layditms2 Год назад
styled like our cultures
@NickMullet
@NickMullet Месяц назад
Girl on the left at 5:24 is the plainest teenager I have ever seen 😅
@highallmighty233
@highallmighty233 Год назад
02:54. Pewdiepie looking great for his age!
@layditms2
@layditms2 Год назад
lol Pewdiepie represents the exact opposite
@this_is_a_tiny_town
@this_is_a_tiny_town 9 месяцев назад
I thought the chap at 2:29 was the snooker player Ronnie O'Sullivan at first glance
@hilaryepstein6013
@hilaryepstein6013 Год назад
Most fashion in the 80s was made for poseurs but they're all pushing 60 now so I hope they managed to keep some of their individuality through the years when life got in the way (except for plastic orchids).
@ajs41
@ajs41 Год назад
Sparklers on cocktails have probably been banned today because of health and safety.
@timevans2905
@timevans2905 Год назад
No wonder the country is in such a state with this lot running things.
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 Год назад
theyre all posing in parliament now..
@ajs41
@ajs41 Год назад
Sunak was 2 years old at the time of this video.
@davedogge2280
@davedogge2280 Год назад
2:28 he never liked nor copied Dexy's Midnight Runners.
@kamandi1362
@kamandi1362 6 месяцев назад
Time traveller from today at 2:56
@ttllymxico
@ttllymxico 5 месяцев назад
LoL You mean now looks like Imitators
@theoriginalbluey
@theoriginalbluey 10 месяцев назад
I think historically, most people have wanted to look good, possibly to attract a partner, self-esteem etc. There have been a few times when kids of the day rebelled against that - the chav look, the mid 90s dad rock Oasis look... The 80s were great for good individualism.
@aaof-d-mio-fv2fb
@aaof-d-mio-fv2fb 8 месяцев назад
'' the mid 90s dad rock '' what
@theoriginalbluey
@theoriginalbluey 8 месяцев назад
... Oasis look. @@aaof-d-mio-fv2fb
@hopebgood
@hopebgood 3 месяца назад
" the mid 90s dad rock Oasis look." 😀
@peterquinn7878
@peterquinn7878 Год назад
The Beeb should have let Dennis Pennis do these interviews. 😼
@matthewtrow5698
@matthewtrow5698 Год назад
But Tom is the stereotype we're used to, right? Tom Archer is/was the stereotypical Journalist. Well done Tom.
@TheTherealbadboy
@TheTherealbadboy Год назад
1:20 if Gollum and Mr bean had a child
@MrShuttz
@MrShuttz Год назад
Come back England all's forgiven. The good old days
@carlaconnor8347
@carlaconnor8347 Год назад
Oh piss off
@MrShuttz
@MrShuttz Год назад
@@carlaconnor8347 🤣 someone having a bad day?
@layditms2
@layditms2 Год назад
i love this preppy fart and imitation era now terrific 😙🤌
11 месяцев назад
perhaps she might be my English punk sister
@oxouk
@oxouk Год назад
Bananarama @ 1:50
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 Год назад
Erasure, a little respect!
@oxouk
@oxouk Год назад
@@fidelcatsro6948😂
@rosieHolliday5887
@rosieHolliday5887 4 месяца назад
It's such a shame that people don't dress differently these days. Everyone aspires to just meld into each other now. Hoodies & trainers. How very dull. Mind you, I'm no different now. But if I was young again, I'd be outrageous!
@ianwhitehead691
@ianwhitehead691 8 месяцев назад
I am a poseur and I don't care, I like people to stop and stare. 😁
@thebadgamer1967
@thebadgamer1967 Год назад
Nice they visited that gay bar but as a gay man myself those cocktails were far too gay even for me 😬 🤣 🤣 not a spray tan, frozen botox forhead or blinding white teeth in sight
@albie341
@albie341 Месяц назад
Lmao and the BBC hated the punks picnic look at these guys man they like Boris Johnsons friends
@jeromealexandre4162
@jeromealexandre4162 4 месяца назад
Surfer Rastafarian 😂
11 месяцев назад
poser coconut society is the worst society
@carlaconnor8347
@carlaconnor8347 Год назад
3:03 - she looks like Mary The Punk in EastEnders who’d make her debut in 1985.
@johnathandaviddunster38
@johnathandaviddunster38 Год назад
Quick get a AMBULANCE FASHION VICTIMS!! 🩲🩳👙👚👛👢👜🧤🧥🎩👠🥾👘👗👓🕶🕷🌻
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