Michael Winchester, OU's punter in this game was shot and killed a few years ago by a gunman in OKC. His son James was playing for the KC Chiefs. He was a very good man. Thank you for showing his plays too, even if they were just punts. Mike was a four year Letterman at OU.
I was sitting in the stands for this game. Very nice Penn State fan sitting in front of me and said (after Jamelle Hollieway threw the long TD to Keith Jackson) "I don't mind losing to OU, but not on pass plays!!"
I was there, too. Sat right behind the OU bench. Do you remember watching for the score of the Miami v. Tenn sugar bowl to see who would be the national champion? Casillas and Bosworth were beasts in this game.
I hate Penn State I think Joe Paterno was a child molester as well I don't think Sandusky was the only one involved in that they should start calling themselves chomo state I think they should have gotten the death penalty and their football program should have been abolished SMU got a death penalty for a lot less than what chomo State done SMU wasn't molesting children you can say what you want to but I think Joe Paterno was involved in it as well if not he was doing some major covering up
Thanks Steelbuck. I forget that Shaffer threw all those picks. Penn State was actually in this game. The next year in the Fiesta Bowl, Vinny Testaverde said, “ I’ll see your 4 picks, and raise you one.”
I can remember watching this game like it was yesterday, both defenses played extremely well, with a lot of hard hitting tackles. I still have my OU Orange Bowl Championship T-shirt hanging in the closet that I bought after the game. I sure do miss those unrelenting strong hard hitting defenses that OU used to have during Barry Switzer's era, you've gotta have a good defense to win a championship.
That OU defense was one of their all-time best. Cassias was a beast defensive lineman. Bosworth and Donte Jones made plays all over the field. There were a bunch of future NFL players on both teams in this game.
Thanks for posting all these great games from the past in condensed form...well done! As a 73 year old college football fanatic these games really make you miss the way football was played in the past. Wishbone vs RPO as a fan/viewer there is no comparison. The tackling is better, OU's speed and precision running the bone is spectacular and despite being a perv and child molester,Sandusky could really scheme the he'll out of stopping it. I was surprised OU was so good at kicking field goals since they never had to to it during the regular season. Lots of terrific future NFL players on both sides. Was the Boz overrated or what?
Shane Conlan had an incredible first half. He was the closest thing the 80s had to an AJ Hawk ..... two very athletic guys slightly overshadowed by other players, but who both made any team they were on a lot better.
Kicker Tim Lashar was OU's offensive MVP in this game but it probably should have been Lydell Carr. We ran more fullback option in this game than any game I can remember.
The thing is, being a die hard Nittany Lions fan, we had a 23 game regular season winning streak counting the next year, when we won the national title!!! Nittany nation, our history is amazing 👏 and we don't take a back seat to any program!!!! I did not like to lose this game, another national title, slipped away!!!
@@thefrase7884 You are absolutely right!! I am wrong on that one!!! I do think though, that we actually got screwed out of a couple more national titles, literally!!! Joe Pa had a few more teams that were undefeated and didn't win the so called national title?
I think OU's defense and their whole team in general was even better in 1986, but that year unlike 85 they were unable to overcome the loss to Miami. Would have blasted PSU again had they played in 86 though.
Just think there are high school teams today with offensive linemen the size of the ones in this game. One thing though is they seemed to play faster then and be more physical. Also a number of Oklahoma's players were home grown like Carr, Casillas, Pope, Tillman,Stell, Bryan, Morris, Thompson, Rayburn, Collins, and Winchester .
I’ve been watching your vids for the past 2 weeks. Read Brian Bosworth’s bio The Boz a few weeks ago and been watching his old games. These vids are a blessing when you need a blast from the past. Ive seen others do these edits but not like yours. You capture the color guy more. There’s some videos where it’s just the play-by-play guy, but you try to squeeze in the color when you can, in the bigger moments. Too bad you can’t program espn classic. I bet their viewership would rise if you took over the schedule and used you’re edits. I write fiction and understand how difficult editing can be.
Fantastic memories...as an OU fan I can say .Conlan was a beast..he just punished Jamelle all evening..but Jamelle was a brilliant tactical general got the big Play when needed
John Shaffer had to be the most frustrating Penn State QB ever to watch. It's amazing he got a D-1 scholarship at all. Slow, unathletic, can't run, and a very inaccurate passer. A prototypical "game manager" QB rather than one who could win a game for his team. Most of his passes sailed over the receivers' heads. If the other team was as good or better and got a lead, it was pretty much over because he couldn't lead a comeback. He had a gaudy win-loss record, mostly because he had a very talented supporting cast. The title team the next year beat Miami in spite of him, not because of him. He was to blame the most for this Orange Bowl loss. A blown opportunity for back-to-back national championships.
Great game! Didn’t remember Penn State defending the Wishbone that well but hats off to them. Days of hard hitting, good tackling and good sportsmanship. If you’re opponent’s player gets knocked out on your side, help him up. None of the “in your face” nonsense like today.
Every time I see no one on the line on the receiver, I want the QB to make a quick throw. Seems like that could have given much more 2nd & 5s than the runs did. Very tough game. The only real difference is that PSU turned it over five times - and gave up two big plays. Hard to believe OU has only won one more since then.
Sooners were actually ranked #3. Miami who had beat Oklahoma early in the year was ranked #2. The National Championship was Penn St.'s to win or lose. In the Sugar Bowl that night, #8 Tennessee, the Sugar Vols, blew out Vinny Testaverde and Miami in a rout 35-7. The Sooners took care of the overrated Nittany Lions and took home the title, which in those days was a coronation by the nations sportswriters!! The next year this Penn St team upset the overrated Hurricanes in the Fiesta Bowl 14-10 which led to the BCS era of pairing the top two teams in a title game. Looking forward to a playoff which will enrich all of college football and give the players a chance to win it on the field rather than in the minds of sportswriters.
@@davidc.992 lol. DJ was too old for him. I love how the Penn state fans reminisce about the good old days but conveniently forget that they had a child predator on the sidelines for all of those games, and a gutless, clueless head coach that enabled him. Talk about a buzzkill.
@@frankpalancio8471 Dude is in prison where he belongs and hopefully hell in very soon. Plus those discussions ruin videos and turn into a nightmare between anti-Penn State and pro-Penn State bs.
@@allengreene9954 Penn st fans should embrace the team only after the university hit the reset button and started over. They should disown the Paterno years and forget about that dark stain in their history. When I see them remembering those times fondly like with this video. I can't help but to get triggered and leave them a little reminder of what was going on behind the scenes
Oklahoma defense was so dominant. And they won even after Troy Aikman went down early in the season with a broken leg against Miami . Imagine if Aikman was not injured what the Oklahoma team would have done in that 2-3 year stretch .
@@rawn4203 buddy Troy before he got hurt was lightning up the cane’s D! In fact the game changed when he got hurt!! By the way what are your Miami team doing these days! Lol 😂
PSU had an awesome defense but they got beat on the big play pass to TE Jackson. PSU had a pee wee caliber QB. When they got behind by more then one score it was over.
I remember exactly where I was during this game... working at McDonald's as a 16yr old... Tennessee blowing Miami out was a big shocker.... Holieway was the best option qb ever and the reason Troy Aikman is hard on black qbs during the games he cover lol imo
In very early description of Jamelle Holloway being named starting quarterback for Oklahoma, Don Criqui said Holloway replaced the starter who suffered a fractured leg. Gosh, the starter was Troy Aikman. NFL Hall of Fame and 3 Super Bowl rings. It’s fascinating to not hear Aikman name at all. Another indication of inability of great coaches like Switzer to really grasp talent level of players sometimes. Switzer however, did tell Aikman to transfer because Oklahoma was not going to passing game. Next stop for Aikman was UCLA....All-American...drafted No 1....rest is history.
Are you kidding, Aikman got his leg broke in the Miami game. Inability to know talent who do you think recruited all those great players and won three titles. That’s probably the dumbest statement I’ve ever heard proving you know nothing about it. lol. Troy was not a star at this time the announcers didn’t even know who he was. Unbelievable. And he did start until he was hurt and had to transfer to UCLA and Switzer set that up. I can’t get over your post.
OU should have switched away from the 90% rushing wishbone system . Some passing Clearly it worked against penn state, but did not against Miami which had a stout run defense . Switzer is a great Cisco but he neglected that aspect from 85-89 when he left . A more balanced offense could have yielded better results .
@@baselt6552 Agreee. OU stuck with the wishbone too long. It worked when they had the superior athletes and superior speed but not against someone like Miami who also had great athletes.Miami matched up well man to man with OU. OU needed a balanced offense to beat Miami but unfortunately Switzer just loved the wishbone too much and made it just about impossible for his team to win those games.
I left Oklahoma in 1964 what into the Air Force Reserves was out of school for a year in Eastern Oklahoma City University in 66, Penn State's defense was awesome way better than Oklahoma, Oklahoma was lucky to be in that game they were killing the quarterback the whole game
Sometimes having the ability too watch football is just like having freedom for a Army veteran having access too healthcare at the Department of Veterans Affairs hospital in Spokane, Washington for my younger brother with the first name of Juan. Let's hope the individuals watching this game aren't black like my sibling Juan who was almost body slammed by security officials while a member of the United States Congress watched with a smile on his face.
Compare that game with very little passing to win Baker Mayfield played, wow what a difference the speed of the passing etc currently is much better those old games for boring, because all they did was run the ball. Penn States defense in '86 pretty much shut down Oklahoma, but they were able to win because of interceptions etc. I think Oklahoma is kind of Lucky to win that game and I went to school there but that's the truth. I liked the school I finished at better Oklahoma City University and I took graduate courses and all the professors in the business school and phds from Harvard and Wharton School, they're still currently ranked one of the best faculties in the business school in the country. I was glad I left Oklahoma, their business school was not a comparison to Oklahoma City universities Business School. Much higher class education in Oklahoma City University. But I majored in chemistry the first two years in college at Oklahoma Central now known as Central State University.
Baker couldn't even sniff a natty it took him almost 5 years to make a playoff, hes celebrated for losing in the playoffs. Please don't compare him to jamelle holieway they are not built the same, football was way tougher back in those days and with more racism than even today.
First of all I HATED PEE S U and it's practice uniforms. Secondly pee s u was super slow (like mud)ha ha save #5. Thirdly OU's D was super fast and quick. Pee s u couldn't handle OU's bruh speed!!!
@@sammychapman1730 I could ask you the same question, because you misunderstand my comment. You see, what I meant is that I find it humorous and amazing that at the point in time when this game was played that the announcer didn’t even bother to mention Aikman’s name. You know, the guy who went on to be drafted first overall, won 3 SB’s, a SB MVP and a HOF’er. It’s actually kind of uplifting if you think about it. Sorry that you thought I was insulting your man crush. But my comment is actually the exact opposite of how you seemed to interpret it.
It was about what resume at that point. Oklahoma and Penn State had been consistent winners for years while Tennessee hadn’t had a great team in over a decade.
Johnny Majors cost UT that season with 2 ties and a loss at Florida is what did them in for the title. I think in the UCLA game they had a 24-3 lead going into the 4th Qt and UCLA came back to tie, they should have easily coasted to victory in that one, Majors went ultra conservative running the ball up the middle and blew the game. The other tie was the Georgia Tech game, first game for Daryl Dickie as starting QB, they simply were to conservative in that one.
It matters not anymore because Joe Paterno refused to dishonor college football with a challenge to the victory by saying; "those players did not affect the outcome of the game." That was it. Today, the internet lists Oklahoma players who were suspended for every year except 1987 which has been omitted. One should note that late in 1987 Bosworth tested positive for steroids and by 1989 all hell had broken lose (heavy sanctions) at Oklahoma regarding recruiting violations.
@@robertkauffman8137 I think it matters. You made the accusation of a 36-year-old game. I know nothing of the 1985 season suspension (for the 1986 Orange Bowl for OU/PSU). I find no record -- and have looked some. And I have never heard of it before (not saying it isn't true). The 1986 season suspensions are very well documented (where Boz was suspended -- but this is not for the PSU/OU game). "Joe Paterno refused to dishonor college football" is rich though.
