Whitaker fought as he was already the champion, he didn’t understood he needed to snatch the belt out of Ramirez. By the way, the biased comentators also did 😂
You're an idiot. Rounds are scored the same regardless. The vast majority of the public knew Whitaker won, and he was robbed. Just like he was robbed vs Chavez in San Antonio.
He’s moving and boxing. Landing combinations, fighting behind a beautiful right jab, out throwing Ramirez, and not getting hit back. Boxing is an art, not street fighting. I think that’s something people in these comments forget about (as most of them ridiculously believe Ramirez deserve the victory). Hitting without getting hit is the way to go.
@@kdberry1997that's because the vast majority of them posting comments on here are what's termed as casuals & know absolutely SFA about the Noble Art!!! Unlike yourself as I can tell you know your boxing and understand why it's called the sweet science!👍😊🥊
@@santiagoalonso7257 Y sabías que gano todas pero le fueron robadas incluso al que mencionas Alexis Arguello fue un robo descarado le dislocó las quijadas y le dieron el triunfo a Argüello. El mismo reconoció que perdió. El único ko que conoció fue ante púas Olivares fue un descuido pero lo tiró 3 veses a la lona. Fue en sus inicios
@@santiagoalonso7257 ¿o se que en el Salón de la fama, cuentan las que perdiste, y no las que ganaste?... de antemano muchas gracias por la información.
My two Favorite parts 1 @45:00 seeing Ramirez celebrating his victory and @45:10 seeing Whitaker crying in defeat Thoses USA Biased Commentarys don't know nothing about true boxing they did not like the decision because their favorite USA boxer got beat by a Great Mexican Champion boxer like it or not Ramirez won Framce was right along with other nations boxing sports who also saw Ramirez as the rightful winner An old out of prime Jose Luis Ramirez BEAT Perrnal Whitaker and gave him his first LOSS Whitaker thought because Ramirez was out of his prime he was going too win instead he got a boxing lesson from the great champion Jose luis Ramirez Whitaker fans like it or not your boy Perrnal Whitaker got BEAT by a great Mexican champion justlike how Chavez and Dela hoya beat whitaker as well NO matter how good a black boxer might be there will always be a mexican boxer who will beat them why because God made us mexicans for that very reason we have everything thing that a real fighter boxer has too beat them Perrnal Whitaker remains me of Floyd Gayweather Jr who also was undefeated at 27-0 in 2002 but all that changed when Floyd Mayweather jr got BEAT by a great out of prime boxer named Jose Luis Castillo who clearly out boxed and beat Floyd Mayweather easy
@@Aldine281How can u say Ramirez beat Whitiker. Even if they penalized Pernell for holding hed still come out leading. I understand the heart in Ramirez sure. Hes a good fighter and I like the guy. But seriously bro, dont just say he won because hes Mexican and he tried really hard. Thats great n all. But Pete won. You can count the times Ramirez connected. even A draw wouldve been a robbery with this fight
Sweet pea trainer says at the beginning of 11, this is a close fight.. and there are people saying this was a robbery pffff, Ramirez won a close fight!
En la pelea que tuvo con argüello fue robado descaradamente, incluso el mexicano mando a la lona a argüello y lamentablemente se la robaron, un grande del boxeo mundial
LOS JUEZES SON EUROPEOS...ELLOS QUIEREN VER PELEA...CON ESTA CLASE DE JUEZES MAYWEATHER HUBIERA PERDIDO MÁS DE UNA PELEA...AQUÍ NO ES LAS VEGAS..PERNELL WAS GREAT
Yes we don't like fighters who are running all the time without being able to hit effectively, if i would watch this kind of athletes i would watch 50km race walk or marathon for example lol ! The ones claiming that Pernell did beat Oscar DLH should watch something else, he was clearly backing off Oscar's power by moving all his body in awkward positions sometimes flirting or passing over the boxing rules..
@@ComaToast1 you know they are fighting in Europe right? Jose luis Ramirez is Mexican. How could it be a robbery? The European judges just wanna see a real fight, not someone running a marathon. When floyd fought in Las Vegas only because he knew he had the advantage there
It’s boxing not rock em sockem. He making him miss making him pay and he landing the more memorable blows if that’s not the formula to winning what is?
@@215thetruth making someone miss don't win you fights being forced too run don't make you win fights but landing punches sure do and ramirez clearly beat whitaker easy this is no dame running track
Those commentators wants Whitaker win just with a weak jab ,running and tying up since the first round and that is not the way to fight for a title.that’s why the judges score the way they did
@@alexandrosanchez6501con todo respeto eiwiltaker mucho más marrullero que floy maywether José Luis Ramírez lo corretio toda la pelea nunca quiso pararse a dar pelea así no merecía nisiquiera un empate
@@phonejack8949 ‘Turning the back is a foul. This includes any method of weaving or ducking or rolling or turning such that the opponent is solely or mostly presented with the back of the head and/or body’.
Perdió Whitaker, se la paso huyendo en el combate. La mafia del boxeo que no proteja mas a estos boxeadores, con este estilo de boxeo que con 2 o 3 golpesitos por asalto, ganan una pelea de campeonato mundial... Es una falta de respeto con el publico presente.
This was an old out of prime Jose Luis Ramirez who beat and gave a young prime Whitaker the runner he's first lost and what does Whitaker do he Cry's like a little girl on the floor lol but Great win by the great Champion Jose Luis Ramirez
@@alexcorleone4340 first off, you and wife that like a man are incredibly ugly on that picture. You shouldn't have come and said something to me I'd you're that ugly. And second off you don't even know how to spell
La mayoria de los negros son oportunistas y correlones casi no presentan pelea, por eso sus peleas son enfadosas mi zurdito de Sonora José Luis Ramirez, siempre dio grandes peleas
Eso fue un bochornoso robo whitaker le dio una clase de boxeo y de defensa lo mismo q a Chávez tan bien le dio.clase y se la robaron el.americano es.mas fino.q el mejicano q lo.q saben es ir.para el frente no tienen de defensa q bochorno
@@alexcorleone4340 oh sorry did I insult your boyfriend? Maybe instead of coming here and insulting me, tell man that looks like an ugly women to remove his hair dye, cause he looks like Billie eilish. Fix your nose, because it looks like an arrow. And take your dusty hat off.
Boom booms running out the mouth but Livingstone Bramble beat him twice and just whooped him like 40 going north and he stand up there for this what he should do in his tell him why didn't he do it
These USA commenters are fools based on Whitaker nuts because Whitaker is a US boxer who they wanted too win but Jose Luis Ramirez clearly beat Whitaker the runner and france mexico and the world saw jose luis ramirez won and Anyone who thinks Whitaker won this fight needs too stop watching boxing and go watch some videos of running track because Jose Luis Ramirez won clearly and Whitaker the runner crying because he got beat haha Jose Luis Ramirez Chavez Oscar and Tito outboxed beat and made Whitaker run as while and Jose Luis Ramirez won this fight against Whitaker the runner Fair
Not the robbery people say it was. Whitaker was putting on a clinic for the first 5 rounds but slowed down and was getting clipped with hard shots round 6 onwards. I had it a draw.
La manera en que Chávez metía la derecha al mismo tiempo que hacía bending. Mucho más rápido que Ramírez y más certero. Ramírez sí está un poco por debajo de Julio.
Jose Luis Ramirez definitely won that fight yet it was a close fight ill give it that. Those Commentators never once gave any respect to Ramirez when he was throwing his punches and winning .Mexicans are the Best in the boxing industry, and yet there still being portrayed as underrated by bullshit commentators. So I'm glad Ramirez proved them all wrong !
@@enriquerojas9758 it's called outboxing, something you know nothing about because you only watch dudes come forward while throwing punches and missing 99% of them.
Whittaker gave this fight away. Ramirez was the better fighter on this night but Sweet Pea is so much more skilled tbh. He should've done a little more in my opinion.
Whitaker was clearly a star on the rise here. The announcers are blind to any punches Ramirez lands while gushing over everything Pernell does. It was a very close fight...
the announcers are calling the fight many years later. This is ESPN classic where the announcers are watching the fight from the ESPN studios in the mid 1990s
Whitaker, was a great boxer. Here he did survive. Does not mean he won. Getting beat up while beautifully running backwards? You have to beat the championship out of your opponent.
@@williamcooper6274 Whittaker's lack of punching authority really showed here, what I usually call sticking and moving in this fight looked more like pecking and running. I can count on my hands how many meaningful shots pernell landed
Hector Camacho had MUCH better footwork than Whitaker. Whitaker crosses his legs all the time. He also had much better speed and would have beat Whitaker
Sorry, wasn't big robbery. I had whitaker in almost every round up till 6th, he tired and Ramirez the champ started landing. Whitaker running and being hit look like he was unable to stop ramirez from turning the fight. If you know anything about old school boxing they wont pulk tittle in close fight. Whitaker had better performances, but this one Whitaker blew more then Ramirez won.
dm gmail yes, great point. Whitaker, 115-113. I got to say the fights Whitaker was robbed was very bias. Ok, so he beat Chavez 116-112, at worst 115-113. Chavez 87-0 so I see a draw. Look at Ramirez, he’s stalking and clearly winning 7-10 and 11. Clearly dominated in rematch though.
/@@davidshipman2007 Agreed, but Ramirez was a bit shopworn ..Love Sweat Pea, just sayin...Just.look how many fights Jose already had by this time here...and against guys like Arguello and Rosario, both in their primes, and Mancini, Boza Edwards, and Camacho ..just off the top of my head..These were "wars"....He finished w over 100 fights...Cat was the very definition of "Old School"> One of the few to knock Arguello down when Alexis was in his prime Peace
I've always felt that way. I remember this fight well and I don't think a man that grab's his opponent by the thigh to avoid fighting deserves a title for it. Whitaker is one of the most overrated, blown up fighter in history. A master at whining and avoiding fights with the best people.
the execucioner : Muéstra el documento de una organización mundial donde se establezca que se toman en cuenta esos 4 criterios que dices a la hora de calificar en las tarjetas. Defensa ? No tirar golpes cuenta como puntos en las tarjetas ? ring generalship ? Representas al boxeo Olímpico Internacional ? Robo ? Robo el que hizo la dictadura argentina en el mundial del 78, el agua contaminada del equipo argentino a los jugadores brasileiros vs Brasil en el 90, y la mano delincuencial de Maradona en el 86. Muestra el fallo de ese "robo" El boxeo es un deporte de apreciación y no siempre los jueces aplican el mismo criterio, de ahí la polémica del boxeo. Unos le dan más valor al que más propone o es ofensivo, o a los golpes de poder sobre los golpes de "punteo"y los efectivos, no la defensa. Ramírez ganó bien, ante ese estilo de mierda de ese boxeador perfectamente olvidable que tanto te gusta, que además, aplicó todas las mañas en el ring y que hasta hoy, no se castigan en ese deporte.
@@santiagoalonso7257 : Tú eres el lineal. El artículo habla precisamente de la disparidad de criterios y la subjetividad de los mismos por parte del sistema y de los jueces, más allá de esos 4 criterios, en donde el aspecto de defensa no es el prioritario y no es efectivio si no se complementan con golpes limpios y conectados. El boxeo es un deporte de contacto, donde se privilegia al que conecta por encima del que evade. Es un deporte profesional y de espectáculo, debido a la industria que trae atrás, y por lo mismo, donde algunas veces se privilegiará al que haga mayor uso de la ofensiva con eficacia en peleas cerradas. Y sigue siendo un deporte de apreciación ( esto incluye a los jueces ) Tu hablas en teoría a rajatabla en un sistema de calificación imperfecto. "Clearer guidelines for judges regarding the criteria on how to score a round of boxing would ensure less disparity. “Clean punching” is the most important" Que tu cabecita limitada no lo entienda no es mi problema. Ahora bien, la pelea la GANÓ Ramírez, así lo ví yo y así lo miraron los JUECES, que eran los facultados en la materia, y la autoridad en la decisión final, oficial, legítima y legal ( el delito de robo solo está en tú cabecita calenturienta ) y que, además, estaban presentes EN la arena. Tú opinión no importa.
@@santiagoalonso7257 : Jajaja, no mames, ahórrate tus burdas justificaciones de esas suciedades deportivas ( el agua puerca, la mano puerca, el dopaje, la presión de la dictadura, etc ) NO LAS VOY A LEER. Más bien en lugar de llamarme y generalizar a toda una población dicéndome "mexicano bruto", corre y educa a los miles de argentinos brutos como tú, ellos comentan y lloran en RU-vid las derrotas de Maidana vs Maywather, y hablan de robo jajaja, eso si es chistoso. JAJA. Ese costalito Maidana se llevó un baile y se cansó de pegarle a la "piñata" (palos al aire ) dando palos de ciego y llevándose una cachetiza. Debió aprender de mexicanos como Jose Luis Castillo y Oscar de la Hoya. ESAS si fueron peleas cerradas. Y del mismo Ramírez. 442.perfil.com/2014-05-04-277167-la-argentina-gris-e-inutil-y-el-robo-consentido-al-chino-maidana/ ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UoA-ak4Yc1E.html
@@santiagoalonso7257 : el robo es un delito tipificado en la mayoría de los códigos penales del mundo, pelotudo. La información; así sean reglamentos o leyes, hay que matizarla, contextualizarla, criticarla y llevarla a un criterio propio. Aprende eso.
Vine a ver está pelea por Erik Morales que le estaba haciendo una entrevista de un raun más era un mstruo este mexicano ganar witeker no era fácil y le ganó
Mayan Empire I see u a lot but u never give a clear reasoning on how Whittaker lost... I hope u know judging a fight isn’t just about aggression, fact is that judges look at defense and ring genres hip as well and when we talk aggression they look at effective aggression running doesn’t put u down on scorecards missing does it puts the other fighter up because that’s called defense making ur opponent miss do u know this or are u looking at the fight in a biased way ?? I can put money on it that u watched this fight wanting José to win which isn’t very good when judging a fight cause that’s where the biased comes into play
That is al you negros have as an argument, the adjective racist. Maybe you are the racist and are mad because most fans prefer to watch Chávez videos and not whitaker's.
I have no white guilt therefore I tell it like it is. Blacks believe their own lies. Whitaker and his impersonator Mayweather, are both clowns, cocky, racist, disrespectfuk, boring, cowards and huggers. Most people agree with me, you have no clue what boxing is about, let alone what a man is about. Whitaker had zero power. Could not ko R Mayweather and was knocked down. Could not ko haugen, Ramirez, et al. Chávez did. Afrocentrists like you are the reason Blacks are not liked ANYWHERE.
3:40 No counter to the jab from Whitaker in the rematch he countered almost every jab. Notice how Whitaker`s lead foot is inside Jose`s lead foot when he lands the jab at 3:55, doing this creates a great angle for southpaw to land the jab, I`m comparing Pernell`s jab to Floyd`s because of a boxing read spoke on the subject.
17:50, that is why no body miss this kind of shitty boxers, running, hugging etc.. they claim it is called " hit and not being hit" true it is called boxing decadence
@fr Aa how is he dumb for speaking facts Whitaker mayweather all are runners huggers dirty boxers Whitaker was getting forced too run do too the punches of Jose Ramirez just like how Chavez outboxed and forced Whitaker too backpedal run away you are the only true casual fan here Dumbass
@@aldinewestfield5821 you guys are fucking idiots. Its the job of a pro fighter to handle any style/situation theyre confronted against , they met in a confined square and agreed to box it out, if a guy is running from you, YOUR JOB IS TO CATCH HIM if a guy is wrapping you up YOUR JOB IS TO DEAL WITH IT AND OUT FIGHT HIM IN THE CLINCH, TIME HIM TRYING TO HOLD. you idiots have no concept lets all praise the loser for not knowing how to deal with footwork and angles
Good Decision , Ramirez clearly won the fight , if you want the title take it from the champ , don't back pedal and run then complain about the decision.
Pernell won this fight....got robbed in classic boxing way, "bribed judges".....no way you can justify giving 10 rounds to Ramirez (which one judge did at 118)who barely hit his target all night.
I saw round #1 then skipped to round #5,...….Whitaker won the first round and the announcers said that Whitaker won the first 4 rounds. I'll give him that, but Ramirez won every round 5 thru 12. Whitaker landed a few jabs, then he would stand still once or twice each round throwing a 4 or 5 punch combination. The rest of the round Ramirez chased and was swatting Whitaker repeatedly. As the rounds went by, Ramirez landed more and more, Whitaker fought less and less. The 12th round was the only round of the last 8 that Whitaker put up a decent fight, but he lost that round as well. If a guy is going to back peddle at full speed every round, he can only win by dominating the punches landed category, and Whitaker did not. Ramirez never stopped punching and was landing at least 35% of his punches. Whitaker was getting tired and his accuracy dropped each round. He was so tired that he began to grab and hold, while Ramirez tried to get free to throw more punches. How can you reward a guy that's trying to avoid fighting and isn't landing as many punches? The argument about whether a guy is running or boxing to 'hit and not get hit' comes down to punches landed. If that category is fairly even, the aggressor should win for making the fight. In this fight Ramirez was consistently landing more punches in the last 8 rounds. A 'runner' has to do something to make up for trying to avoid fighting. He's not avoiding punches in the true sense of the word, rather, he's trying to avoid fighting all together. If you stand face to face, you avoid punches by blocking them, moving your head, by positioning and by beating the opponent to the punch. That's what you call out boxing the guy. Moving around at damn near full speed isn't out boxing anyone, it's running to avoid fighting. Whitaker wasn't moving quickly to gain position nor to land punches, he was moving to avoid fighting. If he had his choice, he would turn around and run forward, trying to win a foot race. Stopping once in awhile to land one or two punches in a 4 or 5 punch flurry isn't enough to beat a guy that wants to fight and is landing punches steadily round after round. I had it 116-112 for Ramirez, and I'm neutral on the fighters, I like them both.
Sorry, but I Emphatically Disagree. The first of a series of Robberies which jaded the career of PERNELL. PERNELL WHITAKER made this look too easy. He made RAMIREZ look slow, and kept the jab in his face all night long. When he did land, Whitaker paid him back by with crisp combinations. Mexican fans swear he wouldn't come forward, but they didn't understand his angles, and ring generalship. RAMIREZ kept coming Forward, but DID NOT CORNER HIM OR CUT OFF THE RING. WHITAKER, Moving backwards, utilized the same approach vs Chavez years later, in that he pumped the jab all night long, and made him miss. HE WASN'T RUNNING, nor in the alternative, wasn't Avoiding Fighting. He Circled and jabbed, and left before damage hit. STICK AND MOVE. STICK AND MOVE. Way too quick for RAMIREZ. They way he made Ramirez Miss was the same thing that happened five years later in San Antonio. The reason why he was awarded this atrocious decision was because the WBC and WBA wanted an all-Mexican fight between Chavez and Ramirez after this one. Anyone, whether Hispanic or not, who thinks Jose Luis Ramirez won this fight, has snorted fetanayl. It was not close. WORST DECISION OF THE 1980s. I had it 116-112 WHITAKER.
@@yentamoon1808 whine? Over a fight that occurred 35 years ago? Man, don't start something here. We have a difference in opinion, that's all. I feel he got robbed (even Ramirez told him he won that fight, right afterward, did you know that?) You don't. Did you also know that Ramirez had already signed to fight Chavez? Look it up, man. And the great thing about it all was the rematch a year later. Now in your greatest humility, can you tell me what happened there? Now be careful, if you don't say it correctly, I'll gladly fill in the blanks.
@@200littleman 😆😆🤣🤣😂😂 The one who received the gift of his life was Pernell, the defeat he had against our great Mexican champion was painful, that style of running around the ring is useless against a hunter like José Luis Ramirez
@@200littleman “flat”? 😂😂 anyone can run in the ring LMAAAO Go do some research about why Mexicans fight like that, they need to sell the fights in the states, they are boxers, they are not in the Formula 1 where they come from a wealthy family. Chavez destroyed that style lol Oh and again, go do some research, Mexico owns the USA when it’s about championship fights 😂😂🤟🏻🤟🏻
Pernell was way overrated, he ran for 12 rounds from a old old man way past his prime who was not even close to be considered as one of the greatest mexican boxers and yet he lost.
@@santiagoalonso7257 correle a ver si ya metió gol boca o river o quién te enajene, deja niño que los expertos veamos boxeo de calidad jajajaja tienen a "maravishhhaaa" y ya se mojan todos jajajaja
@@santiagoalonso7257 que la canción,. Whitaker: metia los codos, empujaba, amarraba, se agachaba más allá de la cintura (no es permitido) al abrazar pegaba por detrás, metía el pie, era marullero, correlon, defensa buena mmm a lo mejor pero no todo es defensa! Un tipo que aburría, el boxeo al ser apreciación dependerá que te guste y ahí si cada quien, saludos pelotudo como dicen uds, pasa buena noche!
Solo digo que si prohibieran los abrazos en el boxeo, y el correr hasta dando la espalda literal, el Boxeo sería otro, nunca hubiera llegado Whitaker, Floyd M. Y muchos correlones más. 2 llamadas de atención y a la 3ra, pierden pelea.
Toda la pelea se la paso corriendo , y eso que Ramírez ya era un veterano y aún así se creía ganador Pernell , lo que es no asimilar el profesionalismo a diferencia del boxeo amateur!
@@santiagoalonso7257 Claro que no se questiona el gran peleador que fue Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker. Tenia un estilo defensivo con excelent contragolpeo, muy buen trabajo de piernas y muy veloz de manos. Su mejor arma, la defensa, el jab, el contragolpeo a velocidad y en combinaciones. Ahora hablando de esta pelea y siendo sinceros, Whitaker empezo ganando facilmente los primeros asaltos. El 6to fue parejo, de ahi en adelante Jose Luis Ramirez tomo la iniciativa y estuve encima cortando el ring y conectando golpes. Pareciera que Whitaker no podia quitarse de encima a Ramirez que perseguia y conectaba al cuerpo y arriba, la mayor parte de los ultimos fueron para J.L. Ramirez. En el 12 Whitaker se impone nuevamente y lo gana. Recordemos que en este tiempo para que despojaran a un campeon mundial de su cinturon tenian que vencerlo claramente. Muy pocas veces Whitaker se paro a fajarse, quizas sintio el poder de Ramirez y por eso retrosedio demasiado durante la segunda parte de la pelea. Lo que si es que mas que un robo, Whitaker dejo de hacer cosas para convencer del todo a los jueces para que le dieran la pelea. En la revancha, Whitaker con sus habilidades y muy buen boxeo, fue mas constante y gano claramente.
@@santiagoalonso7257 en Europa califican diferente. Además Ramírez era manejado por dos franceses, ahí estaban en Francia. Prácticamente tenía la ventaja de local. Se que Whitaker fue un grande pero esta pelea fue horrible con todo el respeto que se merece. Yo creo que se enojaron los jueces y se la dieron a Ramírez.
The first of a series of Robberies which jaded the career of my favorite Fighter. PERNELL WHITAKER made this look too easy. He made RAMIREZ look slow, and kept the jab in his face all night long. When he did land, Whitaker paid him by with crisp combinations. Mexican fans swear he wouldn't come forward, but they didn't understand his angles, and ring generalship. RAMIREZ kept coming Forward, but DID NOT CORNER HIM OR CUT OFF THE RING. The reason why he was awarded this atrocious decision was because the WBC and WBA wanted an all-Mexican fight between Chavez and Ramirez after this one. Anyone, whether Hispanic or not, who thinks Jose Luis Ramirez won this fight, has snorted fetanayl. It was not close. WORST DECISION OF THE 1980s.
@@castlewoods4753 The object of the Sweet Science is to Hit and not be Hit. Your boy Chavez Got Schooled by Whitaker, who bullied him in his own Backyard.
@@williamcooper6274 This ain’t no science laboratory this is pure comeback boxing that means you have to fight you have to hit and get hit with you like it or not it’s not Tom and Jerry cat chasing a mouse she’s real boxing how can someone win a fight while he’s being forced to run away backwards and you think because he survived 12 rounds now you think he won gtfo nigga Chavez made him run like a scared bitch
Puede gustar o no el estilo de Pernell, a mí nunca me gustó para nada, pero de que ganó esa pelea, la ganó y por mucho. Como buen mexicano, siempre apoyaré a mis guerreros Aztecas, pero como persona de integridad, siempre daré mérito y honor a quien lo merece.
@@ededd3175 he is supposed too fight toe to toe not run backwards all night this is not Tom and Jerry ca t chasing mouse this is boxing combat fighting
There is a lack of respect for boxing here.Whitaker clearly won with no questions.Many think boxing is fighting but it is not fighting.Fighting is just apart of strategy to win.You don't give more points if your fighting and not hitting anything.We all know this,but the forever stupid still think standing toe to toe is the only way to win in boxing.Nobody is impressed by a robbery of a boxing match.The same boxing fans follow fighters hoping a slugger will beat a boxer is a one dimensional boxing fan who is stupid.There is no way to raise your boxing IQ.Eventhough the fighter may take a loss,but the boxing fans will remain dumb forever.
Whitaker backed up CONSTANTLY and threw a few slaps here and there; he was awful to watch, and was always overrated by those (such as yourself) who seem to think that if a guy is boring he has elite boxing skills. Bullshit. Erislandy Lara is no Ray Leonard.
Not a terrible decision. Could have gone either way. I think Ramirez edged it out. Whitaker ran and held. I always heard this was a terrible decision that should have gone the other way. That is not true. Whitaker is not as good as people say he was. And the Chavez fight was a just draw. He ran too much in that too.
@@trailernumber9th710 no, Chavez and Ramirez got schooled because Whitaker was the much better boxer. He made them look like punching bags. Oscar beat him though.
Reading the comments, there needs to be a separate division for Mexican fighting fans who do not like boxing, but instead prefer 2 people standing flat footed in front of each other, seeing who is the biggest man that can take the most headshots. Ring magazine called this decision the worst of the decade. And clowns on this thread think Ramirez won.
