Thanks brother. Greeks were mad because the lost against us many times. But, this is just a moment in our long history, and history can tell Greeks are our brothers. Also, there was strong propaganda against us at that time, similar as today, so fans were influenced by media as well.
Ωπα ρε μεγάλε, εμάς μας ρώτησες; Ήσουν μέσα; Γιατί εγώ πήγα σε όλους τους αγώνες του τουρνουά (ακόμα της κατάταξης) και οι βρωμοΣέρβοι πήραν το μετάλλιο με διαιτησία και μόνο. Πριν τον τελικό ο κόσμος ήταν μεν στεναχωρημένος από την ήττα της Ελλάδας στον ημιτελικό (αλλά και στο μικρό τελικό από την Κροατία), αλλά μέχρι το ημίχρονο του τελικού ήταν ήρεμα τα πράγματα και κανένας δεν έβριζε τους βρωμοΓιουγκοσλάβους. Από το δεύτερο ημίχρονο και μετά που Πιτσίλκας και σία πήγαν γαμιώντας τη Λιθουανία άρχισαν τα Lietuva Lietuva. Αει στο διάολο με τους μπασκετικούς αρχιμαφιόζους της Ευρώπης, κωλοΣέρβοι. LIETUVA LIETUVA ρε!!!!!
Javljam se iz Zenice, Bosne. Kad se igralo ovo prvenstvo, imao sam 14 godina, bio je rat a državna televizija je prenosila samo utakmice Hrvatske. Eurosport (koji je prenosio sve na satelitu) su imali rijetki, ja ne, tako da nisam mogao gledati utakmice Jugoslavije pa tako ni to strašno, čuveno finale, ali sam to veče u sportskom prilogu državnog dnevnika čuo propagandnu priču Bahe Topalbećirevića o sudijskoj krađi. (Mnogo godina poslije ću čuti i sličan izvještaj s HRT-a.) Radi se o čistoj ratnoj propagandi i nastojanju da se umanji uspjeh SRJ (nazivane u tim prilozima "tzv SRJ"), a tome je pogodovala činjenica da preko 90% ljudi u Hrvatskoj i BiH nije moglo gledati utakmicu pa je bilo lako stvoriti tu mantru o krađi. A šta je istina? Istina je da su sudije na tom prvenstvu bile katastrofalne - daleko, daleko ispod igračkog kvaliteta na prvenstvu. (Danas su sudije u Evropi bolje za dvije klase.) Pošto sam košarkaški "bolesnik", zahvaljujući današnjoj tehnologiji pregledao sam sve utakmice s prvenstva i lako zaključio da je suđenje, u svim utakmicama, bilo, blago rečeno, katastrofalno. U svim utakmicama! A u samoj finalnoj utakmici izbrojao sam tridesetak nevjerovatnih odluka, koje su podjednako oštetile obje strane. Sudije na tom prvenstvu su bile amaterske, ljudi jednostavno nisu znali suditi, i to je to. Naravno, mantra o sudijskoj krađi se duboko ukorijenila, posebno u Hrvatskoj (čak i na hrvatskoj Wikipediji o ovom prvenstvu), ali danas je barem lako vidjeti sve svojim očima i donijeti zaključke. Zasluženo zlato Jugoslavije.
Pukovnik Aurelijano Buendija @ Hrvat sam ali se u potpunosti slazem sa tobom, bedasto sudjenje i ja se sjecam toga jer sam gledao sve te utakmice ali bedasto za sve podjednako nikako u korist Srbije ili na stetu Hrvatske, to nisam uocio, jednostavno su Srbi bili najbolji i to je to. No ovdje u hrvatskoj se voli kreirat neka mantra koja odgovara nama i onda se oko toga isplete cijela ideologija ali ja sam to jos onda prozreo. Da ne govorim o onoj bijedi silaska sa postolja. Pljuc koji luzeri jos im to nisam oprostio.
Ne slažem se. Sudije su bile konkretno na strani SRJ u finalu. I ja sam iz Bosne i gledao sam utakmicu uživo na TV-u. Do današnjeg dana to finale ostaje najveća sportska sudijska krađa koju sam ikada vidio (možda polufinale Lige Prvaka : Chelsea vs Barcelona).
@@mirkobogicevic3629 Navlačio nenavlačio. Znam šta sam gledao: Sportsku sramotu. Veličina i legenda Sabonis da doživi takvo poniženje. Dođe čovjeku da pljune k'o najveći čoban.
Momci tadasnjeg jugoslovenskog tima su ljudske gromade za sva vremena. Imati toliku snagu i prisebnost, i biti iznad svega i svoj mogu samo oni koji ostaju vecno veliki. Ovu utakmicu treba gledati ponovo i ponovo, pamtiti koliko su veliki i uciti od njih i svakog njihovog ljudskog, sportskog i patriotskog poteza. I igraci i treneri su legende za sva vremena. Hvala im za snagu koju nam ulivaju iznova.
We Greeks showed bad and unfair behaviour to the rightful winners Yugoslavia and the same time we booed Croatian team for leaving the ceremony because of Serbia...Also I think to myself if Yugoslavia hadn't been dissolved and all these players were playing together it would be the European dream team.
Ήσουν επηρεασμένος γιατί από τις αρχές του 1995 ακόμα και τα ελληνικά ΜΜΕ άρχισαν να τους δαιμονοποιούν ενώ οι Αμερικανοί και οι νατοικοί ετοίμαζαν Κροάτες και Μουσουλμάνους για την τελική επίθεση. 250.000 Σέρβοι εκκαθαρίστηκαν στην Κράινα της Κροατίας με τις ευλογίες της ΕΟΚ και των Αμερικανών τον Αύγουστο του 1995 και άλλοι 250.000 Σέρβοι έφυγαν από τις πατρογονικές τους εστίες στην νοτιοδυτική και κεντρική Βοσνία και από το Σαράγεβο για πάντα.
Croatian guys make freedom symbol, which can be said to be political. That's why I think Croatians don't have ground to criticize about Serbian's 3 finger symbol. Also, applause of Serbians towards Croatians is very respectful behavior. Writing from 2021 and different country is easy, but I think players did have power to end the hostility between people of nations by embracing each other. By the way I am neither Serbian nor Croatian.
@@stanislavsd nasu u repku u kosarci nitko ne prati( sto zbog rezultatata, a sto zbog popularnoati). Vama je to nacionalni sport i onda dođe jedna argentina( nogometna zemlja) i popisa se na vasu repku Kuzis kod vas je vjerojarno uzbuđenje raslo iz utakmice u utakmicu, ljudi navijaju, odlaze pogledat utakmicu u kafic... i onda dođe argentina na celu sa scolom i popisa se na vas hahah
Croatians did a coward and disrespecting act. We, Koreans, have a long animosity toward Japanese largely due to historical reason (continuously invading our country and the climax was the 36 years of brutal colonial rule), but we have never done anything like these Croatians did. Show some respect.
Well guys, we can discuss here for a long time, but tell me this : How often do you See a Player score 3 point shots 9 times in a final? It iz True that players as Sabonis and Marciulonis were Superstars who could in every Team in the world. But against a Team as Yugoslavia during the 1990s you cannot win the game with 2 or 3 players!!
Posle ovog prvenstva Jugoslavija/Srbija osvojila 10 medalja i popela se toliko puta na postolje na najvecim takmicenjima, a oni kako su sišli tako se više nisu ni popeli a i niti će.
Prvenstvo će ostati zapamćeno i po neviđenoj i histeričnoj mržnji koju je grčka publika pokazala prema srpskim košarkašima a koja je trajala celo prvenstvo.. Čak je i himna žestoko izviždana.
@@milankolarski8876 ako razmisljas ka vecina njih ode, onda da... svi znamo sta se tada dogadalo i zasto su napustili dodjelu. Necemo ulazit u ratne i politicke teme, al pojedinci pricaju gluposti... kakvi kompleksi !?
@@milankolarski8876 al svakako je ovo legenda i nesto sta je obiljezilo opcenito sport. Tribamo gledat samo vaterpol i nikad glupih ljudi i komentara necemo cut ni vidit
@@jankezyt6125 Ja ne znam koji je tvoj problem, niti me zanima. To sto zajebavamo vas Hrvate, to radimo iz inata. Ti ako si se pronasao u mom komentaru:"Legenda zivi", onda ne znam zasto uopste komentarises. Komentar se odnosi na to da smo MI SRBI bili tri godine pod sankcijama i odmah posle ukidanja istih smo uzeli zlato. U tome je poenta, a ne JA CETNIK, TI USTASA.
Koliko je ovo jadno ne udostojiti se, apsolutno bez obzira na sve okolnosti u pitanju je sportsko takmicenje, dno dna. Ali opet nije toliko do igraca koliko do naredbe da se to uradi. Sabonis u nevjerici. Najsramotniji cin u istoriji sporta, ne znam da je iko ikad to uradio.
Because we are not brothers and because your team only won because Borislav Stankovic wanted that gold medal. Lietuva was the better team and it was more than obvious to all 15,000 fans who were in the arena (I was there too, obviously rooting for Lietuva).
There is no hate. Just a lot of temperament because we thought that our national team deserved something better ...and that Serbia at that time took it away from us. It would be wrong to say that people were against Serbia, even those in the stadium. There is no normal Greek out there who feels hate for the Serbs ...and we have proved that in every difficult moment Serbia has gone through. There is no nation which we love and respect more than yours and that won't change for any reason. We are Greeks and Serbs and we are family. Whoever tells you the opposite talks bullshit.
да жаль что после этой проклятой гражданской войны стали врагами..позор.те игроки которые уже давно вместе играли в сборной бывшей югославии на самом деле были близкие друзья и ненависти друг к другу никогда не чуствовали.это политики и народ в своей стране заставляли их так поступить в церемонии
Ο συρίγος είπε την αλήθεια στην μετάδοση με 3,5 παικταράδες δεν κερδίζεις 8 παικταράδες όλη η ουσία αυτή είναι και η Κροατία μετά τον θάνατο του ντράζεν κακά τα ψέματα απογοήτευσε και δεν μπόρεσε ποτέ να διεκδικήσει ένα χρυσό.
Μπασκετικά είναι ανύπαρκτοι και αν δεις δηλώσεις Kukoc, Radja σε σεμινάρια που συμμετέχουν και Σέρβοι, όπως Paspalj, Danilovic, Savic κτλ, λένε ότι η Κροατία εγκατέλειψε τον Γιουγκοσλαβικό τρόπο προσέγγισης του αθλήματος. Κάτι που έχουν κάνει και Σέρβοι τα τελευταία χρόνια, γι' αυτό και δεν έχουν ξαναδεί χρυσό αν και παίξανε σε πέντε τελικούς και πήραν το αργυρό μετάλλιο. Ο Radja ήταν και στην κηδεία του Ivkovic και κουβαλούσε και το φέρετρο. Τον είχα για φασιστάκι αλλά δεν είναι τελικά και κάνει παρέα με τον Paspalj τα τελευταία χρόνια. Επίσης ο Drazen Petrovic ήταν μισός Σέρβος από τον πατέρα του. Και οι δυό γονείς του πατέρα Petrovic Σέρβοι. Ο παππούς του Petrovic με την γιαγιά του Bodiroga ήταν αδέλφια... Επίσης Komazec, Vrankovic μισοί Σέρβοι από την πλευρά της μητέρας τους.
Divac tapse svima na osvojenoj medalji, a oni silaze sa postolja. Kako su sisli nikad se vise nisu ni popeli, karma je cudo. Ne razumijem zasto mijesaju politiku u sport...
Jugoslavija je imala tada svecki tim ko moze ovde da prica o sudjenju pa koje bolji i sudija ne moze nista sale je igrao kao stef kari za golden stejt i resio utakmicu koliko je jak tim bio videlo se 1996 protiv dream tema u finalu kad su igrali egal skoro ceo mec protiv barklia sakila redji milera i ostalih
Drazen Petrovic, strasan kosarkas. Stvarno je steta sto je premlad poginuo. Ali ok, ostao je legenda. Meni je recimo zanimljivo da mu se rodjeni brat zove i preziva Aleksandar Petrovic. Petrovic je inace uobicajeno prezime u Hrvtaskoj, kao Jovanovic, Zivkovic, Bogdanovic, Milanovic itd... Sve sam to procitao na hrvatskoj wikipediji i nije me zacudilo obzirom da su u drugom svestskom ratu Srbi u Hrvatskoj doziveli da ih se trecina pokrsti ( postanu katolici), protera ili pobije. Mozda su sva ta prezimena u stvari pokatoliceni Srbi.. Znam da Hrvati nisu sigurno, bez obzira ako se tako osecaju.
Serbs gave a crybabies bad time!!! All alone against the world. Gold Medal!!! 1995. Euribasket Gold 1996. Olympic Silver 1997. Eurobasket Gold 1998. FiBA World Championship Gold
Τραγικη μεταδοση Συριγου, που δεν ειδε τιποτα λαθος στη διαιτησια και οταν γιουχαρε ο κοσμος ηταν αλλα λογια ν'αγαπιομαστε.... Στο 14:25 η ατακα για τον Φανη ειχε πλακα παντως
drained ı have some clues my family are from former yugoslavian serbia and montenegro of muslim origin.ı know some people use this sign because of national pride and ı am ok with it. I didnt know about croatian salute, the ustasa regime used the nazi salute as ı know and two fingers used worldwide but thank you for your response. Im doing research about Balkan history nowadays and not ğnterested in fighting :)
drained we are from sandzak region. Not turkish ethnically. My families mother tongue is serbian. But we now live in turkey and have citizenship. I know serbian a little. I consider myself turkish of course but former yugoslavia is a very important part of our heritage traditionally.
@@orhunzahiroglu5179 the three finger sign thingy isn't as popular nowadays, alot of people were against it since as you know orthodox people cross with 3 fingers held together and having them seperate is kind of a symbolically bad thing but it's probably just looking too derp into something absurd
Ljudi su vam rekli šta misle o vama za vrijeme himne.Poslušajte......To vam govori sve.Ova je utakmica pljačka neviđena u povijesti košarke.Pod pokroviteljstvom Bore Stankovića.Malo je falilo da i Litva ode iz dvorane.Onda bi baš imali šta slaviti.
Damon Z. King. Nama ni ltva ne treba jos manje vi da bi slavili. Vi ste hrvati ovaj potez lepo uradili na nasu radost...nikad se niste popeli vise...hvala bogu :) a publika...nije mogla podnesti...isto su zvizdali i litvancima kad su igrali u grupi
