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1997 F-150 4x4 GEM Module Removal Tips & Time Lapse 

striker1211
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If you are looking for a full tutorial I recommend the video by TheSandman717. This video is just me removing the module, sped up, and a few tips as I go through it. It took me less than an hour to remove it and a lot of that time was messing with the camera. I was going to do a tutorial but I found the aforementioned tutorial to be much more thorough that what mine would have been. The symptoms I had were: No power windows, no windshield wipers (dangerous FORD), no 4x4 high or low, no interior lights or bed light, no cruise control.

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@tsherwoodrzero
@tsherwoodrzero 4 года назад
97-98 GEM Modules: F65B-14B205-xx: Pickup 2wd or Manual 4wd F75B-14B205-xx: Pickup Electronic 4wd F85B-14B205-xx: Sport Utility Electronic 4wd (Expedition/Navigator) I have to replace the GEM in my 97 Expedition due to wipers not shutting off. Gonna check the windshield for leaks per your other video too. Thanks for documenting the repair.
@Ventfly
@Ventfly 4 года назад
This video really helped! I had purchased a refurbished gem module only to discover my fusebox was corroaded! My GeM was clean!!! Thanks for the tip...and even if it looks like only a small amount of corrosion on the fusebox ...you can bet it's inside!!! Thanks again for this video!!! And if it's 99 early 2000 navigator get your windshield replaced or resealed! My window was the culprit barely glued down!! Ford had paint peeling issues...and the windows were failing! Water gets in and if you have sunroof...clean your drain tubes out to be sure water is not backing into vehicle!
@mikelemoine4267
@mikelemoine4267 4 года назад
You might want to check for windshield leaks. The seals fail with age and the water drips onto the gem/fuse box. If it's leaking, it'll ruin the new fuse panel sooner or later.
@D222333T
@D222333T 3 года назад
Adrien Aldo even cooler, googling it only shows that it's a virus, i can't even find "instaportal" 🤣
@jamesharris8110
@jamesharris8110 4 года назад
Thanks for this, made pulling the module out of my 2001 expedition a lot easier.
@DeepSouthBayouDiesel
@DeepSouthBayouDiesel 3 года назад
Hello sir...did your 01 expedition have two or three gem connectors? I'm in the middle of pulling the cjb out, and Ive only removed two connectors from the gem module on the back of the fuse box.
@jamesharris8110
@jamesharris8110 3 года назад
@@DeepSouthBayouDiesel There were 2 at the back and 2 smaller ones on the left side. Had to looses the bracket that holds everything in place to get to them, but it wasn't difficult.
@DeepSouthBayouDiesel
@DeepSouthBayouDiesel 3 года назад
@@jamesharris8110 awesome, thank you very much sir.
@georgefrearson2695
@georgefrearson2695 5 лет назад
I have a 2003 fx4 supercrew that has gem/fuse box issues due to rust around the sunroof that allows water to get in. On wet days my wipers won't work and while I'm driving the starter will try and turn over and when I take the keys out, you can turn the engine over by using the highbeams. I love the truck and it has shown me lots of love back, but these problems will continue until I resolve the rust issue first. If anyone is reading this, and is experiencing the same or similar problem, focus on preventing water from entering around your windshield, then your gem/fuse box. Good luck
@dandranorfleet1824
@dandranorfleet1824 5 лет назад
George Frearson my 04 navigator doing the same thing dont know if its from the sunroof or windshield and everything thing i have in it doesn’t work anymore all i here is a clicking noise when pressing buttons
@kirbyammonsjr8491
@kirbyammonsjr8491 4 года назад
Christmas eve my truck cranked up by itself Everyone thought I was crazy I have water dripping in when it rains glad I'm not the only one going through this I've built the truck $6. In it I gotta fix it or make a dunebuggy out of it. I'm probably going to put a windshield seal in it
@kirbyammonsjr8491
@kirbyammonsjr8491 4 года назад
I also have a alarm going off on passenger side.
@MadsWorld34
@MadsWorld34 7 лет назад
thanks for the video after getting a $5000 computer i found that it says my gem module is bad sometimes my truck will start and some times it will just spin over. i knew it was under the light switch but not sure where. thanks again
@crash1769
@crash1769 4 года назад
Great video I have to replace my GEM box tomorrow. 4X4 no engaging and no power to transfer case motor.
@200hit
@200hit 4 года назад
I have the same issue... After you replace did it solve your problem?
@kirbyammonsjr8491
@kirbyammonsjr8491 4 года назад
1-Where did you buy fuse box? 2- When I'm driving down the road my truck loses power and all gauges fall as if the truck was turned off. 3-Where did you buy Gem module?
@danielserrano8600
@danielserrano8600 2 года назад
The very first grey connector plug you pop off what is it for was there anything pluged into it ????!!?!?!?!
@ewingfabrications
@ewingfabrications 4 года назад
My windshielsd leaked and got water in there so i will be replacing mine today, thanks for the video letting me see what i need to do.
@gregschroer2314
@gregschroer2314 4 года назад
Did you have to put a seal around your window?
@ewingfabrications
@ewingfabrications 4 года назад
@@gregschroer2314 no mine was soft enough to peel up the edge and i just squirt it under and made sure the top was sealed well. Had a little rust spot in the middle
@gregschroer2314
@gregschroer2314 4 года назад
Hey I thank you so much I'll try that on mine never thought of that thank you very much
@ewingfabrications
@ewingfabrications 4 года назад
@@gregschroer2314 no problem really
@f.joebidencommunistpartyof4156
Nice, thanks.
@debbyharrison9198
@debbyharrison9198 4 года назад
I need a good used gem module no one has one .who repairs them ?
@nonyabeesnees7902
@nonyabeesnees7902 3 года назад
I got a question for you there's this guy that has a gem module bad of a truck that has a manual shifter on the floor put it into four-wheel drive. The one that he gave me out of his truck that he is parting out . Is that the same gem module that you are replacing as the one that I am going to use with a manual shifter on the floor because hopefully it is so I didn't buy the wrong one. Mine is a 1997 Ford F-150 XLT 4x4
@jason4832
@jason4832 6 лет назад
Fyi if u just want to switch from two wd to 4wd u can swap the vacuum lines on the actuators( theres probably a differnt name for them) on the firewall ( pass. Side high) cheap and easy
@jason4832
@jason4832 6 лет назад
May not be the right way but it works
@termides
@termides 5 лет назад
I could not get to the bolts on the back of the GEM. A ton of wiring harness in the way.
@putv3
@putv3 4 года назад
@@termides I've got the same issue right now. Just spent over an hour trying to get the damn thing out and not enough clearance because of the wires.
@stashub8306
@stashub8306 3 года назад
can you do that to get it out of 4h? mine is stuck in 4h. i have shift on the fly
@garyr7027
@garyr7027 7 лет назад
Interesting, your fast man. I use to move that quick when I was younger Lol. Seriously though, I have the same problem with my 97, the 4x4 won't engage and no indicator lights. I was told it was the gem module, but I found out if the fuse box is bad, the electrical system will play havoc and do weird things which mine does not. I also found out that it could be due to the windshield leaking causing the corrosion, but I see no signs for that either. Have any suggestions?
@striker1211
@striker1211 7 лет назад
Sorry for the late reply. In another one of my videos ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S9HdPhgGzYk.html ) I show how to find the leak in the windshield on the F-150. If just the lights for the 4x4 aren't coming on it could just be an issue with the 4x4 system itself. There are some vacuum assisted things in the system that can malfunction. and not allow it to go into 4x4 (or out of it sometimes). Good luck.
@garyr7027
@garyr7027 7 лет назад
striker1211 it's ok man life gets busy at times. Anyways, my 4x4 does work on my truck, but only if the 4x4 selector switch is changed to desired position before the truck is started, then it goes right in 4x4. Same with going out of 4x4, the selection has to be made before the truck is started otherwise it won't engage or disengage. I'm pretty sure it's a vacuum problem of some sort and I think it's partly engine related. Thanks for your reply, you are right about troubleshooting the vacuum issue.
@kirbyammonsjr8491
@kirbyammonsjr8491 4 года назад
Yes
@cesargomez4911
@cesargomez4911 3 года назад
What was your issue? I have a problem with my interior lights and window fuse keeps on blowing out
@striker1211
@striker1211 3 года назад
Interior lights was one of my issues, I didn't have fuses blowing though. Do you have rust near the fuse box?
@cesargomez4911
@cesargomez4911 3 года назад
@@striker1211 no major rust on the truck but there is slight surface rust by the Obd plug
@tedthornton7791
@tedthornton7791 Год назад
Also trying to locate the temperature guage sensor on my nephews 04 f150 5.4 , 4 x 4. The temp guage doesnt work. . Had a cluster tech test the actual guage. He said it was Good. I replaced cylinder head temperature sensor under the intake, replaced the oil temperature sensor on the side of the oil pan. Still temp guage not working. Ford claims those are the only 2 temp sensors. I cant find any others to try. Got any experience with this on the 5.4? Thought id ask 😮 ?
@striker1211
@striker1211 11 месяцев назад
Are the temps working on a scan tool like an OBDII reader? Could be a bad ground on gauage.
@inadditiontoaswellas7059
@inadditiontoaswellas7059 6 лет назад
There's a part around 0:40 where you hold a grey plug up to the camera... where did this plug in originally? I'm trying to put my dash together and can't find where to plug it back in. I suspect it's a wire that controls something on the transfer case and that's why my front gets no power when in 4x4 mode
@striker1211
@striker1211 6 лет назад
That's the plug for the brake controller I held up because it is clipped to the metal there and you have to remove it from the metal to take the metal off. Did you switch out your GEM module with another truck that had manual 4x4 by chance? When swapping GEMs everything has to match exactly including atx/mtx transmissions, manual 4x4 or electric 4x4, power windows, power locks. Otherwise you have to get it programmed at Ford which would likely cost more than the GEM itself.
@inadditiontoaswellas7059
@inadditiontoaswellas7059 6 лет назад
striker1211 Thanks for the heads up. I am actually not working on my GEM module, I am grasping at straws trying to diagnose my MSOF transfer case/4x4 issues. I found that plug dangling and can't find the other end and was trying to figure what goes into it in the desperate hope that might be contributing to my transfer case not engaging the front drive shaft.
@striker1211
@striker1211 6 лет назад
I had a ESOF myself but I believe on both the hubs are actuated by vacuum. You likely just have a broken vacuum line or a bad solenoid. This forum here is amazing: www.ford-trucks.com/forums/929226-how-to-troubleshoot-and-fix-f150-4x4-1997-2003-a.html but I am not affliated with them. Those guys and the people on the F-150 forums basically trip over each other trying to help you though. Great people.
@inadditiontoaswellas7059
@inadditiontoaswellas7059 6 лет назад
Joby Fluorine no 4wd. Light comes on, solenoid and actuators all working, rear differential shifts into 4 low. Front differential doesnt engage which I suspect is the shift fork in the axle. Main issue seems to be no power from transfer case to front drive shaft. Dont have the time or money to mess with the transfer case so looks like I have a 2wd truck for the time being
@shaneraymer5147
@shaneraymer5147 5 лет назад
I have a 97 f150 with the 4.6. It’s a base model single cab extended bed. Manual windows and locks. When the truck is running it seems like everything is fine but the battery dies over night. I put a new battery and terminal in but it’s still doing it. I’m replacing the alternator but was wondering if the GEM could be the problem possibly?
@kirbyammonsjr8491
@kirbyammonsjr8491 4 года назад
Where you losing power going down the road and gauges fail like truck was off.
@shaneraymer5147
@shaneraymer5147 4 года назад
Kirby Ammons jr yeah the gauges would start to go out. I replaced the alternator and that fixed my problem.
@brianbielawne9801
@brianbielawne9801 4 года назад
I have the same problem with my mustang i pulled the gem fuse and it stoped killing my battery, but now i have no wipers or interior lights.
@alexisnpaco
@alexisnpaco 7 лет назад
what was the problem with you truck
@leh3827
@leh3827 3 года назад
Good video. You covered lots of stuff. The camera work was pretty good. I like that you took the 2 connector blocks off of the back before you pulled the 3 connectors off of the side. It seems easier than the other way around. I'm going to grab a couple of GEMs from pick n pull. I wonder how much they want? Now I'm looking for a vid to show how to program or 'flash' the replacement GEM, apparently that is required. I will like and subscribe. Thanks
@shobanhenryhand1204
@shobanhenryhand1204 7 лет назад
what was your truck experienceing? my driver window goes up and down as it pleases. I replaced the switch but it only worked about 2wks. I've noticed my abs and break lights keep coming on accompanied with an annoying beeping... last week my brights wouldn't work so I bought a new bulb but that didn't work. I asked a friend that works,at the parts store about the GEM. he says it maybe the fuse box...do my issues sound familiar to you?
@striker1211
@striker1211 7 лет назад
Driver and passenger windows worked randomly (though not on their own), windshield wipers stopped working randomly (dangerous), and dome light did not work randomly. I finally narrowed it down to humid days in the summer and warmer days in the winter when snow was melting. Mine was actually the fuse box in the end. I would order the fuse box first and see if that fixes it and if not buy the gem. Look for rust underneath the drivers dash on metal parts. Good luck. *edit* Also, the cause of this problem is not a bad fuse box/gem it is a leaking windshield causing the components to get wet in the first place.
@ChristianRivera-mk5dk
@ChristianRivera-mk5dk 3 месяца назад
So my windshield wipers,windows and dome light work from time to time and then occasionally they just stop working out of nowhere I maybe thought it could have been a bad ground connection or something like that but I think I’m leaning more into what yall are saying. What do yall think it could possibly be ?
@rabiddude5302
@rabiddude5302 5 лет назад
Well in two wheel drive I can't use my wipers, but if I put it into 4x4 I can use wipers. But it tells me I'm in four low, then my new problem came up where if I put it in reverse it kills my lights and says I'm out of 4x4 if I'm in 4x4. Any body had this problem. I just can't seem to figure it out.
@kirbyammonsjr8491
@kirbyammonsjr8491 4 года назад
When I'm driving down the road I lose power and all my gauges fall as if I switched the truck off
@tedthornton7791
@tedthornton7791 Год назад
Could this be be a possibility on a 97 standard cab 2 wheel drive V6. Its My brothers truck , the battery dies over night. Easily jumps start. Battery and alternator are new and were rechecked. After he cuts it off he hears a faint humming. Like a fan. Weve ordered a new ignigtion switch. It has been difficult to turn on sometimes and sometimes after removing key when the door opens the alarm goes off as if key is still in it. Hes not complained of any leaks . We also ordered the white ignition switch box on the left side of the steering column as well.
@user-qj7ku8xc5k
@user-qj7ku8xc5k 4 дня назад
I've been having the exact same issues and a few more with my 97 3 door 4.6 V8
@jayerickson4368
@jayerickson4368 2 года назад
What’s with the fast forward, can’t see u taking it out
@wileybennett5603
@wileybennett5603 5 лет назад
I have a 2000 f150 4.6 extended cab ....my windows wipers and radio all stopped .....I replaced all fuses and relays and still nothing
@michaelfarrens5378
@michaelfarrens5378 5 лет назад
Sounds like your GEM. That seems to be my problem. Mine will flicker on/off especially when it has been raining/snowing.
@toddburgess6792
@toddburgess6792 4 года назад
Locate and fix water leaks into the cabin. That will stop the weirdness. It did for me. Windshield leaked, back glass and beauty ring all removed and resealed. The leak in back was from the pressure vent/valve cutouts under the window. So far, so dry, and everything is working proper again. :-) EDIT!! The gremlin is BACK!!! Dry as a popcorn fart, but the wipers stay intermittent. :-/
@aspire5060
@aspire5060 3 года назад
Thank.
@salemthecat7260
@salemthecat7260 7 лет назад
First generation canbus!
@SonofGodly
@SonofGodly 5 лет назад
where did you get the fuse box,,,sellers name if on ebay
@Jonnyv19
@Jonnyv19 Год назад
I’m having problems with my windows my driver side window won’t roll down it works now and then and my back windows won’t roll down all the wey I have to click the driver window button every time I want to roll it up I already change the gem module any advice? 01 expedition
@striker1211
@striker1211 Год назад
On my 2005 I had to take the switch apart for similar issues. The contacts inside the switch get dirty.
@Jonnyv19
@Jonnyv19 Год назад
It also makes a click sound on the fuse box ***
@OutlawEntertainmentlmc
@OutlawEntertainmentlmc Год назад
There's a video of how to rewire your driver's window to make it work, I did it and if I can, anybody can lol I know this is years old but it might help somebody
@kirbyammonsjr8491
@kirbyammonsjr8491 4 года назад
Where did you order your parts?
@briandeines5019
@briandeines5019 6 месяцев назад
can't get that one connector loose!
@striker1211
@striker1211 6 месяцев назад
Did you try pulling from the top like I showed in the video? I had a hard time with that connector as well. You could have corrosion inside the connector so soft taps with the plastic side of a screwdriver may help.
@miguelsereno8697
@miguelsereno8697 4 года назад
You really didn't had to removed all that plastic just the 4 10mm everything comes out
@brandonvanhorn7170
@brandonvanhorn7170 7 лет назад
what is the part number ???
@striker1211
@striker1211 7 лет назад
My part number will be different than yours. There are TONS of different GEM module revisions. There is even different programming between the modules themselves with the same part number. The best thing to do is to find a truck that had all the same options in the same year as yours and use that.
@brandonvanhorn7170
@brandonvanhorn7170 7 лет назад
ok thank you im not sure yet if i need a gem i just picked up a fuse box for now i have an 03 f150 4.6 v8 4x4 but i also tried your solution with starting the engine in 4x4 but still wont turn on /engage im going to replace box this week ill keep you updates thanks for the video
@thomaswanderer6022
@thomaswanderer6022 3 года назад
@@striker1211 huh. Didnt know that. That must be why it was impossible to find the right parts. Thanks for the information
@tensecondbuickgn
@tensecondbuickgn 4 года назад
GEMs are now $350 and the dealer has to flash them.
@striker1211
@striker1211 4 года назад
For new models? Gems for 97=03 (and 04 heritage) do not need flashing they just need to have the same features.
@norbertrivera
@norbertrivera 6 лет назад
What is the use of GEM module?
@toddburgess6792
@toddburgess6792 4 года назад
To make you go crazy. It is a real gremlin, cause if it gets damp or wet, nothing works right. Wipers, power windows, door locks, anything electrical, it goes through that G.D. GEM and gets glitches if over damp/wet.
@termides
@termides 5 лет назад
I hate that time lapse so much. There is a wire bundle hanging down and is mine. I want to know where it plugs in.
@termides
@termides 5 лет назад
You have it wrapped around the brake pedal.
@MeltingRubberZ28
@MeltingRubberZ28 4 года назад
You can watch the vid in slow mo
@stevenfruichantie7868
@stevenfruichantie7868 4 года назад
That's a body control module
@watchingyourvideo8029
@watchingyourvideo8029 Год назад
3:35 no effort at all. Just like this video. No effort, terrible video.
@genestallons5926
@genestallons5926 Год назад
This video is the worst video of all time
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