Aside from the price, what a car! Cupra got the design and styling of the Formentor absolutely nailed! I don't think there is a bad angle! Great video, Joe.
Wish we got the 5 pot version, although I'm fairly certain this handles and feels better due to much less weight in the nose, also only 30hp down on the 5 too!
Well, manufacturing has changed quite a lot. It's not the same "cheap" Seat as it was before. The Seats are the same you get in the RS3, RS4, RS5 and RS6 Performance.
I agree and then carry out a Stage 2 or Stage 3 tune with appropriate hardware for £5-£10k and end up 450+bhp Formentor. ABt stuff is always way over priced.
Looks good, but personnaly, and as a formentor VZ owner, I spent 1/4th of that ABT package money for a stage1 + DSG tune + short springs+fitting+geometry. Hard to beat ... anyways, that formentor looks great and I really like your review, and all of your reviews in general
Yes you can but remember you still have the SEAT factory warranty on this car plus the seats, wheels and brakes will cost you the price of the ABT cars uplift of £9k, it’s actually not bad value (for the kit, and may be the car)
@@jamest5149 I agree, good point indeed for the warranty. I would pass the wheels though, and the "normal" bucket seats are nice enough in my opinion. Looks great all black I have to admit :)
Sat in the Formentor, love the look, the colours etc, have to say though, I was disappointed by the cheap plastics…I’m guessing I’d get used to it but sure did feel like a step down from what I’m used to…
Excuse me, but what is a Formentor VZ3? From Germany, I only know the Formentor VZ 2.0 TSI with 310PS 4 Cylinder and the Formentor VZ5 with the 390 PS 5 Cylinder.
Really enjoyed the review Joe! The car looks great on the road as well and the seats look very special. Take away the questionable paddles and your pretty much set with the power/style/handling and braking which ABT offers. Cool that it is a dealer approved thing which would also make things more seamless on insurance as it is an OEM model I presume which you can just select? Anyhow, great stuff and looking forward to hopefully meeting up in April for a film 👍
This is an insult to Brits, and for 1 reason. The Formentor VZ5. This is basically a slightly modified Formentor. Why did they do that instead of bringing the VZ5 with the RS3 5 cylinder to the UK. Why waste 60k for what's essentially a T Rock R with a stage 1 remap and some front brakes. I would assume that to buy a stock Formentor and get it to this level would be cheaper than to buy this one. The only upside to this is that it's all from factor which means warrenty won't be affected. But still, go to Europe and get yourself a VZ5.
Simply because the Ea855 is sacred and limited in Audi’s books so only reserved for the rs3 and rsq3s, which are by the way stopped being able to be ordered in the UK due to supply issues😅
I have 190 horsepower version - I don't miss power and infotainment is alright IMO. The thing I complain about Formentor is a road noise - I have no idea why reviewers are not talking about it?
A good review thanks,.. I have the VZ3 and I think the range should have a low key body kit - perhaps an extra vent or two - to indicate that it's the performance version.
Great video Joe. Love the formentor. I'm really hoping the weather dries up. Assuming thats why you've not posted "first m2 drive" video yet? So looking forward to it!!
I had the previous Cupra R ABT the one you reviewed a few years ago, people going on about pricing I agree. Mind you, I paid 31k new for and sold it two years later with 21k miles for…. 31k. So can’t complain!
Great video Joe. Would be interested to see the comparison to a Tiguan R. As for the gearbox on this formentor have you try turning all the assists off after putting it into manual mode to see if it changes gear still? Worth a go. Only say this as my old F10 530D would change in manual mode automatically until I switched off the assists fully after selecting manual mode and sport.
Just get a new used VZ3 for £43k (one in Autotrader) and put proper maps, an intake, lowering springs and better brakes on it and you have 400bhp with a better DSG map and a car that will do sub 4 seconds to 60mph. Alternatively buy the ABT one new in Autotrader at £55k with £5k off list!
Great video as always Joe. Thank you. I think for the money, people are better off spending £15k less on a second hand Audi RS4 Avant with its 2.9TT and pocket the change to invest or go on holiday! 🤪
ABT usually use piggyback ECUs, from what ive heard they dont seem to hit the listed figures sadly going waaay under just like those bullshit tuning boxes, at least on the diesels like the s4.
How it feels down the low range rpms torque wise compared to the regular version without the ABT pack? I also question if the torque curve changed and get some more torque below 2000rpms as it would normally have the max torque value before.
The only version of this that makes even some sense at this price point is the VZ5....and even thats pushing it. I looked at these when they first released and ended up going with an RSQ3 instead.
I bought a 1 year old Model Y Performance (mainly as a business expense) - and I have to say for the same money I’d rather have the Tesla. I miss the noise but the Tesla would destroy this in almost any situation. I also only paid £44k. £60k is ridiculous!
I dont understand these comments. Who on earth wants to sit here and watch vauxhall corsa and vw polo reviews. INTERESTING CARS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE. Deal with it 😂
@@jaketutton7861 These people just complain about everything. They are sitting in front of the TV oder Monitor, have almost no clue, never sat in one and still comment "Overpriced Seat". Then start to compare brand new cars with 12 year old AMGs with 150.0000Km on the Speedo....it's pure commedy.
@t3chn0m0 just as you are making your opinion known. The other viewers also share that right. But here you guys are in front of your screens complaining about other viewers complaining. Do you see the hypocrisy? And honestly, at any given time, you might be the only one who can't afford one of these. Yet you speak as if you are certain about other viewers life story. You must be psychic or just kevin enabled.
@@pauldavies7251 that’s exactly the point. The cupra in my opinion doesn’t warrant a 60 grand price tag whereas the M2 does, far more special than the cupra too. Seats and other little bits aside the performance can be had with a tuning box for a few hundred pounds. Cupra not even in the same league as an M2 yet it’s M2 money!
@@marcust123 guaranteed future value after for years is just under 34 grand. Got it for 59 grand. Every car is going to tank in value, just buy a nail and drive that if depreciation worries you.
@@Jim-jw8gb it doesnt worry me at all i never buy brand new so i dont loose that much you can pick up a bmw m2 for 20-25k now 4 years old that means its lost half of its value and more
Probably not as there will be only 160. The last official ABT Cupra, the R ST Leon, were around £31k back in 2019. Five years later you'll still pay around £28k and that's if you can actually find one.
I swapped my cupra for a mk4 megane rs, it is too capable and gets boring where as the meg 4rs is perfect for road fun and sounds better in my opinion.
Cant really compare the formentor to an X3 the X3 is in a totally different planet. For starters the boot on a formentor is awful comparatively speaking. It's a class below car . Madness price .
What’s your point? The M2 is 2+2 Coupe and this is a proper 4 seat SUV, with a tuning company upgrade. Also, the RRP of a base spec M2 is £66k, let’s see what’s the discounts on this might be in 12 months !
@@user-xs8di8xs9fyea exactly, don't get why someone wouldn't just get the ateca or tiguan R at that point, pretty sure the tiguan has fancier suspension tech
@@paulcs2607 the deals are out there mate shop around you can get close to 20% off. I have a good relationship with BMW dealer and change my car regularly so I get very good packages.
so joe tell us true you like love cupra company you need see around the world only say positive best for cupra and no need proof vz beat audi vw brothers and is first suv vs vw vs audi never spin no matter rain or snow this vz never never spin thanks to Haldex Gen the best n the world is mother of antispin system and dont stuck on paddles you can easy fix that or just buy only with exhaust akra and nothing else and is be little cheaper and later you go tuned upgrade this suv beat any suv of category trust me.
Ridiculous money 😂 4 pot. Doesn’t matter how good it looks. Interior doesn’t look anywhere near that money’s worth. Can get an A45S for less. Or an M2 Comp for half the money 😂 Got to be mad to buy one of these but I like the way it looks and clearly it goes well.
People still complaining about the cost of cars 😬🤷🏼♂️ yes, shock, since 2021 new cars now cost more, let’s move on ! You either accept new cars are likely 20-40% more than you think, or you buy used, simples 😊
Problem is you only get less for that money since vag and the rest want to get the money they lost on their fraud off the customer. The 7.5 Golf R has a more premium interior than a 50 mk8.
9 grand is a bit of rip off, you could get more work done independently for that money. People who are chasing figures are more likely to do that n void the warranty. Feels like a bit of a pointless option. Used to really like these but you see too many on the road now, theyve really lost their charm. More common then mk7 & .5 R's nowadays.
"In terms of driving position, it's a Volkswagen group car, so it's never going to be perfect like a Porsche 911"...last time I looked, I do believe a Porsche 911 IS a VW group car too. What utter c**p
Good point, I should have said part of the VW group shared platform cars, a Porsche 911 is completely unrelated build wise, hence totally different levels of driving position, very average vs bloody brilliant.
