2.4GHz PTMP Through Trees 

I have one client, golf course, with a 1 km link through trees between the clubhouse and the turf care/maintenance building. Using just a pair of Nanobeam NBE_M2-13, It has been working flawlessly for one entire year so far, but will keep an eye on it through the harsh Alberta winter to see if snow coverage in the trees affects it. As a small, two person company, we always appreciate your videos as it is not always possible for us to test every piece of hardware in a real world scenario. Definitely a confidence boost to see your reviews before we jump into the deep end.

First off, THANK YOU CROSSTALK! You have earned a customer for life. I own a small business doing security and networking, and you have certainly earned a customer when I have a need for this type of equipment. I used this video, and put everything together MOSTLY identical. Worked PERFECTLY. Two separate buildings, one ~200 feet away, very light obstructions. From R2AC with the 10 dbi, to a Nanostation M2. I chose the Nanostation M2 because of its secondary RJ-45 and pass through PoE capability. Single PoE injector pushing power to M2, and from secondary port on M2, to AC-Lite, and a free LAN port at the injector. consistent 80 mbps over wifi. Second leg was ~800 feet, absolutely NO LINE OF SIGHT. Same setup, consistent 55-60 mbps over wifi. I was getting good signal a quarter mile away, in my truck, with NLOS, while driving to the barn. Straight line from that point would bring me through horse pastures and trees, so my .25 mile was much different than his, mind you. This was my first time using them, but Im sold on Ubiquiti, and Crosstalk will be getting my business when possible. His videos were SO incredibly helpful..

Just used what I learned in this video to connect 2 Nanobeam 2.4 AC through some pretty serious forest. The distance is about 100 yards. This is a rural location with virtually no other 2.4 nearby. The only option was a low install height of 6 feet. Getting about 50/50 which works for the application needed. Thanks for showing it could work.

Hi Chris, thanks for the very interesting video. I live in the suburbs close to other properties and had all sorts of problems on 2.4Ghz and ended up doing a scan and move my gear onto one of the less occupied channels. Did some testing on 5Ghz, got better speed and range. 2.4GHz here in Australia is a BIG mess. I've managed to retire some old gear so in the process of moving everything to 5GHz. So wouldn't be surprised if your range may have been limited in some cases by spectrum congestion.

This is the EXACT video I was after!

I was watching the other video with the m900 hours ago only to find out its not available in my country because its licensed spectrum.. and now this ;-) ! got a client that really needs this link through his neighbours big tree !!

Great video. Curious if a directional antenna at the AP would have enabled you to detect the signal at either of the 1/4 mile stations.

good testing sir 👍

Try it with 24GHz and 60GHz next :-) You might get to a point where the wavelength is small enough to get through small openings in the foliage..Boost the power enough, the foliage will melt away!

Great info....tks

So mesh solutions seem to be the new way for large homes- but they have issues with smooth handoff. Is there a safe way to use antennas like these to cover a home outside and inside with a single unit? or too directional?

Greetings. What is that beautiful temporary pole stand/mount you used on the nanostation side? I would love to get my hands on one for site surveys. Looked through your links, but couldn't find.

The testing is very interesting. Thank you for that. I want to setup a mutipoint ok n my property. How do I determine what I need before buying hardware? I assume you can't buy, test, and return.

I have exactly the same setup. These antennas have a donwtilt angle. This one has 4'. So it has to be at a higher position for the nanostation to be in the sweatspot. Also the gain of the rocket2 can be adjusted. Did you have it at maximum? Thanks for the great videos. Interested to see what further experiments you will do with this setup.

Hey Chris, I really appreciate your videos. I have a UAP-AC-M-Pro mounted above a marina club house. It is fed from a Comcast Business router. I am having difficulty reaching other sailboats that are no more than 200 feet away. Is there a better Ubiquiti omni access point device to use that will reach further and stronger? Would the same Rocket Prism AC and AMO-2G10 2.4Ghz setup work better? I suspect I'm also impacted by the clutter of the sailboat rigging.

Hi Chris, you might have gotten this question before, but i'm new here - Can I use that omini directional antenna and connect it to my router and extend its range, or does it require the use of the Rocket AC prism? does the Prism provide any power to the antenna?

Is that access point setup really weatherproof? If not, how do you go about getting IP66 protection for an exposed setup?

Chris, thank you for your time spent making these videos. Extremely helpful. I have some experience setting up PTP M2 and M5s. I recently set up a M2 PTP at my house for remote gate control and camera connectivity. When I enabled the M2 for PTP, my wife’s AirPods get real choppy when she’s inside the house where one of the M2s are located. Now, normally I can use this “choppy” signal to my advantage! When she calls me, I tell her I can’t hear her and I get to hang up!! However, this is not good for her business which requires her to be on her phone a lot at home (must be nice)! So either way I get an ear full. Do you have any experience with M2s interfering with AirPods? I’m running the lowest power settings and 20mhz spacing on the M2s. Thanks in advance.

How about when we have line of sight, what speed can i expect on a deployment with this exact hardware !?

Hello I have a question. I have 5Ghz radio and I'm about 3000ft away from my other 5Ghz radio. There is no line of sight, but the stuff in the ways only some tree limbs. It's Definitely not a forest but there's some limbs in the way. Would switching to 2.4Ghz radio be a good option instead of 5Ghz? Thank you

what is the control program you use , for point to Multipoint ??? keep up the good work , your videos have taught me alot

Is there a detailed write up or video anywhere with how to set up the PtP or PtMP with the current software? I’m looking to deploy my first Airmax setup

Would the 900 work at those distances?

what would you use to collect/receive wifi about 2 miles away (we are very rural) but towers are about 2 miles away?

Nice video thank you Did you try to change the channels to see if the interference of the other WiFi signals was the issues.

Chris, I realize this video is 2 years old, but I'm curious if you ever tried the longer distance test shown here after assigning a specific low-band frequency to the AP rocket... that way, when you scan for an AP from the station, you can eliminate picking up all the other wifi signals between the 2 devices.

This test was with an omni (possibly has a downtilt) and nano, would be interested to see this same test using 2 powerbeams.

Great video I was hoping for these tests to be done. How many station can be connect at the same time? Let’s say I have 500Mbs to share Tanks

Hi Chris, i have been using using loco and rocket m2 pair under those conditions since 2009

Hi Chris. Assuming that the rocket is out up on a mask high enough and there is line of sight and it is paired to multiple nanostations (5). Can the rocket handle the traffic? We are talking about HD surveillance traffic from all directions.

Hi. Is it possible to connect directly with your phone and laptop to the antenna at 600meters with clear LOS?

Thank you for this very helpful video. I have purchased everything you are using and attempting to set-up with very limited knowledge. Wondering if there is a how to guide set-up guide on this particular combination?

Hi Chris of Crosstalk Solutions I am just wondering if the Nano Station M5 can operate Point to Point Bridge or point to point in non clear line of site at a distance of 300 meters and at least 15 meters on top of my roof? Please help me out!

Do these devices/antenna come in green or Camoflauge? Would be nice to hide them in the forest.

What ip you need to set in your pc to setup all that?

What device you tested best results even lot of trees Sir?

TVWS would have a lot of promise for such installations. @crosstalk solutions, have you ever tested any TVWS gear?

Dear sir ! I have plain point to point nanostation m2, from 13km can do or not sir?

Can you use a litebeam ac gen2 airmax on this system?

how many meters do you think there will be an excellent signal with a line of sight

I’d love to see this test done using a raiseable mount (maybe something like a section of pipe set into the ground with a second section that could be raised with something like a light boat winch). That way, you could try the test again at different levels. Maybe you could also have several WAPs running at different frequencies, all mounted at the top of the pole, and you could then test them all at the same time, and see which works best, and at which height. I was also a little concerned at how the cables were exposed between the Prism unit ant the Antenna. In my part of the world, Parrots love chewing through exposed cables like this. Have you looked at ways to Bird-proof installations like this (e.g. installing wire mesh around the exposed cables, and maybe also extending the mesh down around the Prism unit as well. to protect it, or would wire mesh upset the signal at that point)?

Did your AP network come up when you ran the site survey? This is a video that I wanted to do but that Omni should have been at a higher elevation ( maybe on your roof top). Also should have tried your same setup using two of the directional antennas. I believe you may have been able to establish a link that way.

great info, thanks for posting it. sounds like 900 is the safer option, its almost guaranteed to work. even if 2.4 worked at the beginning, who knows what interference may pop up in future. thanks again -

Lots of very green vegetation, so no chance. Plus when it rains you can halve the range again.

Hi, Chris... Is there a problem using the antenna in the station side? My setup is with an ap rocket m2 with stock antennas on a mobile robot at one side and a station rocket m2 with an amo 2g13 antenna on the other. Is there smt wrong?

Good day sie Chris What device you can suggest Im planning for a ptp setuo Through trees My isp: 20mbps only..

Can a Nanobeam AC work instead of the Nano Station M2 ?

but how did u program the rocket as an ap

hello sir. can i use AMO 2G10 onmi antenna to my rocket 5ac lite (R5AC-LITE)? i am using this for ptmp. the maximum client distance is 2.5 kilometer,,

Does cpe and wifi router channels interfere each other?

Keep in mind that the closer RF gets to the Frequency of light, the more it behaves like light. A simple explanation is that tree leaves block light and they also block RF. Try this experiment again when all the leaves fall off and your results should improve. The exception will be all the interference coming from the WIFI in the neighborhood. What you are trying to do is a Near Line Of Sight (NLOS) path. It works best using high gain PtP dish antennas with narrow beam widths. I have several links on 4.9 GHz that run 20 and 30 miles with a 20 dB fade margin. Translation is that it keeps working even during heavy rain and snow storms. As for 24 and 60 GHz range , expect ranges of less than a mile and severe rain, snow, and, fog fade. This why 5G at 33 GHz only has a range of 100 to 200 m, or a cell site every other telephone pole. Good demonstration though and yes 50 or feet of antenna elevation would help.

2 questions first where did u get the stand for the stations. And my other is I have a pair of nanostations m5 loco and when I set them up they only work when the AP is in the remote location and the station is providing the internet any thoughts.

Please can I use it to share wifi directly to phones and laptops?

Hello I need your opinion. With TP-Link CPE510 should it work with a 500m with a few trees blocking?

@Crosstalk Solutions, hey Chris will you do an updated video of site to site vpn step by step?

Hi. can you help me which equipment I should get. Distance is 1km have line of site just to connect my 2 houses. What is the best setup for me thanks

I've got nanostation m2 for years it works perfectly and today I've got the nanostation m5 but signal is much weaker than the m2 even I did a comparison by hanging them one next to another and the m2 is much better I'm already thinking they sold me some broken antenna or I can't set it up properly

To eliminate interference as a factor, you can go down to a channel in the 2300 range. At least on older chips you could

I was wondering if I install this on top of my house in a residential area. Should I be able to get internet around my place like in the garage or in the front by the street. Etc. Is this a good option or is something else recommended for what I was envisioning

How many client like LTB m5 on this device?

I have a house and a boat dock that are separated be about 250’ and a few trees. I need to get internet to the dock to support security cameras. I’m hoping you can tell me the best setup for my situation. I’ve watched several of your videos but I’m not sure what would work best foe me. I’d appreciate any help you could provide. Thanks

What about 900 mhz test?

Hey Chris I have a couple of questions how can I pm you ? Thanks Ryan

I may be having a derp moment.. but can these point to point radios carry multiple vlans?

Good day sir Cris, can I use this omni setup as a access point to connect smart phones and laptops? I'm here waiting for your generous reply. Thank you sir.

have you had any point to point device pushing over 400mbps?

why not use directional antenna?

one could use multiple nanostations to hop the signal further could they not? AP/Station at each point say every 300 to 400 feet? if say you gotta arc the signal past a hill into a valley etc.

I need your help. Where and when can I use an omnidirectional antenna. I am starting my own WIPS I will also be selling IPTV service my server is in the cloud I have a service that I can also resell

3:22 illegal tx power at 28dbm, also overloading rf chip

Think it's slightly unfair to test this one with an ommi since the 900mhz was done with a directional. Very informative and on point otherwise though :)

Good morning Chris I got a question for you sir

5ghz penetrate 1 tree, 2.4ghz penetrate 3 trees, 900mhz penetrate a forest

HI CRIS i have the same set up, using rocket m2 using loco m2. i have no line of sight also ang get a nice throughput. at 259meters thru many obstacles of houses and trees and still get internet. hope i can post some picstures ang gui SC.

I know this is an old video... But, I'm trying to figure out if it would even be worth it to try but the trees here are just outragedly tall (Charleston, SC) .... But I have a building(s) and other structures that I manage their network so getting an antenna on the roof is not a problem But... I can get the signal over the trees most of the distance but, for the last few 100 feet or so it would be blasting trees and who knows what else.... And it's not really worth it to rent tower space here as the providers in this area are very much greedy and want 1000s or not 10's of 1000's for a small about of tower space...

please conduct a test in line of sight, please, please

How if I use this 13dBi Omni Antenna with UAP-Outdoor+ in my wide back yard? I want to provide access to my guests (mobile phones) in my 200m x 200m back yard. Is it good to use this setup for directly connecting mobile users to this antenna and AP?

It's very possible to run a 2.4 network in a forest. Tree's make great towers lol

2.4 GHz through the trees can be tough. I've tried 5.8 GHz through one tree and it also is difficult unless using directional antennas and a lot of power. Although if you have enough gain, and enough power, anything is possible! - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-h23DxIYwp5Y.html

iya itu karena loakasi di hutang , kalo di kota mungkin akanterjadi interpernt frekuensi

300mbit but 70mbit in speedtest. wtf?

Um, yeah. 1/4 mile through trees at 10ft..... not gonna get anything. lol

2.4 isnt that good..

fast.com is so trash. Please stop using it. It says on my gigabit connection is actually 3.5gigabit... Come on now...