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2 Bad Compressors In Weeks WHY? Freezer Down 

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Walk-in freezer has had two compressors fail in less than a couple weeks. I was sent to find out what is happening. Lets look it over and see if I can determine the root cause of the failures. They say compressors don't just fail, they are murdered!
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@Brooks.Mechanical.Electric
@Brooks.Mechanical.Electric Месяц назад
No matter what your friends and your wife and your therapist say, there's nothing wrong with watching a few hours of HVAC R service videos to help you unwind after a 70 hour week of service calls! Ok fine, so you don't actually have any friends, buts there's still nothing wrong with it! 😂
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
No, we usually only have a few True good friends and a shit ton of acquaintances and coworkers. Take care of your really close friends. Don’t worry about the other ones. I would say you probably care about your work more than others do, look how picky I am about stuff, I don’t want to be like that. I wish I could just not care but every time I try, I end up changing it the way I should’ve done it to begin with before I Leave 🤦😂 we just care about what we do and want to do the best we can. It shows when we’re watching other people to see what information or tricks we can pick up, I’m not saying I’m all that but I’ve learned a lot from others.
@EndrChe
@EndrChe Месяц назад
@@HVACRSurvivalWe say we wish we didn’t care, but there’s always that making sense of pride…
@Paul-IE-Repairs
@Paul-IE-Repairs Месяц назад
@@HVACRSurvival agreed we are our own worst enemy's James 1:4 "But let perseverance do its complete work; so that you may be complete and whole, lacking in nothing."
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Agreed 👍
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
@Paul amen brother.
@marknaravas318
@marknaravas318 Месяц назад
Rick, I watch a bunch of these hvac channels and you have the deepest, hardest, most incredibly screwed up stuff to work on. Definitely one of the best techs out there to get this nuclear POS running.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Thanks for the kind words of support 👍👍
@fshn76
@fshn76 Месяц назад
Good video! You weren’t kidding about the problems. Can’t complain about 11° at the end. Probably the best it’s ran in years.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Hard to say. Hopefully it stays running
@786otto
@786otto Месяц назад
You also have clueless like me watching 😂 Just enjoying how well you can fix things.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
I watch things I don’t know about, it’s all good 👍 😊😊
@jasonjohnsonHVAC
@jasonjohnsonHVAC Месяц назад
Very nicely done Rick.....basically performed a start up type repair. Everything but the kitchen sink.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Pretty much!
@commenter5469
@commenter5469 Месяц назад
Well Rick - that was super rookie mistake, about that suction filter! You knew better!
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
I didn’t want to heat up the reversing valve.
@sherwinalvarez7365
@sherwinalvarez7365 Месяц назад
Idk kind of close to the 3way valve
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
I took the chance, but I cheated and cut it out 🤫😎 a pipe cutter didn’t fit. I keep pipe brushes in my torch kit to clean out shavings if they get in there. At that point they system was a miss what am I out.
@commenter5469
@commenter5469 Месяц назад
I carry fire blanket with me. Saved me many times. You can even get something like that from Harbor freight welding section. Also I carry old license plates and pieces of aluminum flushing for the same purpose.
@JesseDoesHVAC
@JesseDoesHVAC Месяц назад
So im not the only one! Ive had issues with my 557s not zeroing out pressures leaving like 14psi reading when zeroing pressures lol even the wireless probes have been doing the same thing
@FPHA697
@FPHA697 Месяц назад
Great job brother! Do what you can is all you can do!
@stephenbullock-yn3vh
@stephenbullock-yn3vh Месяц назад
Great work 👍
@elparmful
@elparmful Месяц назад
Was that an overnight vacuum?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Yes
@Youngbl33zy
@Youngbl33zy Месяц назад
2 day vacuum. Charged the customer 48h x $110h for the vacuum pump working. $5,280 in labor 😛
@frankmesias1949
@frankmesias1949 Месяц назад
The way you explain everything.. thank you so much
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Thank you, I hope to prevent dumb things like this from happening but that only works if the person wants to learn from there mistakes. This person might never see the video 🤷‍♂️🤔
@Ted_E_Bear
@Ted_E_Bear Месяц назад
Rick , I think you are a great tech , so intelligent!
@timbrown9305
@timbrown9305 21 день назад
Very systematic... Nice! Those site glasses bubble on a hot freezer until the freeze gets down to temp and quits boiling all refrigerant too early in the evap. in my experience... superheat is high until then as well for this reason. Love your videos you are definitely a guy who really understands his trade.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 21 день назад
Thanks for the support 👍👍. I agree the superheat is definitely high at pulldown. I don’t adjust superheat until box it at temp. Far as charging I’m not as worried about waiting.
@timbrown9305
@timbrown9305 21 день назад
@@HVACRSurvival The company before you wasn't worried about ANYTHING!🤣
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 Месяц назад
one of those days where your super prepared for the job... 🤣🤣 nothing right, out of everything, SHTF to the end. lol
@stevencossaboon3237
@stevencossaboon3237 Месяц назад
Nice job Rick.
@commenter5469
@commenter5469 Месяц назад
I work in lots of heavy equipment A/C systems. I use Oil eater to wash the coils ( mostly condensers, but some evap. also) - was thinking about maybe doing experimenting and washing the coils with that on stationary coils, to do less damage. The non bubbling dish detergents might be a good idea also.
@terryh8421
@terryh8421 Месяц назад
Well done Rick, good work!
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Thanks for watching
@subcoolHVAC
@subcoolHVAC Месяц назад
11 degrees and out 👍 Thanks for the video!
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Thanks for watching!
@duaneimlay5680
@duaneimlay5680 Месяц назад
Good video, good walk through of you thought process
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Glad you liked it! Thanks for your feedback!
@ChuHur
@ChuHur 3 дня назад
Wow. What a great teaching video. Great job.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 2 дня назад
Thank you!
@LilyRoseElectric
@LilyRoseElectric Месяц назад
Great 🎉job 👏 amazing 👏 craftsmanship ...proud of you
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Thank you very much!
@markjohnson9964
@markjohnson9964 Месяц назад
You do awesome work
@eastcoast186
@eastcoast186 Месяц назад
Thanks for the video
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
No problem!
@johnwalker890
@johnwalker890 Месяц назад
Good job Rick......
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Thanks John! Have a good weekend!
@thesilentonevictor
@thesilentonevictor Месяц назад
Rick saved the day again
@user-ge5le4ku6j
@user-ge5le4ku6j Месяц назад
like your workmanship. i miss r11 to flush the system.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Thanks! 👍
@halverde6373
@halverde6373 Месяц назад
Freezers need suction accumulators. I never sold a low temp condenser without one. Or a medium temp. Guess what, never had a compressor wash itself out. That's why you had a lot of oil in the high side too.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
I don’t like the whole design. It’s absolutely idiotic to put two different systems on one breaker so when the one system trips, it takes out the other not to mention you tie yourself up with one condenser coil. The whole design is crap.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 Месяц назад
A lot of oil in the high side can be from the system being low on refrigerant, like when that cap tube line blew, and then the pressure switch set very wrong, the compressor wasn't shutting off. When the compressor is running in a vacuum, and there's not enough gas flow velocity in the low side of the system, there's not enough to push the oil back up from the box up to the roof.
@jrc630
@jrc630 16 дней назад
Great job
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival 15 дней назад
Thank you!
@ErickHernandez93
@ErickHernandez93 Месяц назад
Gotta remember if its a freezer superheat is to be checked once box is at least at 0°f brother U did all u could man, outstanding 🙌
@ErickHernandez93
@ErickHernandez93 Месяц назад
You know evap superheat 4-8°f and compressor between 20-30°f is a happy place but its even tolerable up to 48°f is it’s in harsh equipment with neglected maintenance equipment
@ErickHernandez93
@ErickHernandez93 Месяц назад
As always! Killing Rick! 🙏
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
I learned not to touch super heat until 5* from set point, or you’ll be doing it again because it will flood when at temp. The one saving Grace was it had liquid injection, but I don’t know if it was even working correctly. It probably was gummed up with shit. I couldn’t feel any temperature changes. I should’ve used my thermal imager, but I was doing a lot of other things that I didn’t show, one of them was the dam bees.
@vornelas82
@vornelas82 Месяц назад
That was a fun video to watch. Thanks 🙏
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for reaching out! Your feedback it’s important!
@Gcanno
@Gcanno Месяц назад
Thank you.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
You're welcome!
@EverythingHVACR
@EverythingHVACR Месяц назад
Nice job, Rick! You got shit meter leads 😅
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Wtf ever. Them are the best I’ve ever had and they’re made in the USA
@EverythingHVACR
@EverythingHVACR Месяц назад
@@HVACRSurvival 😆 you said it. Had me laughing.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
I got it now 🤦 I’m slow sometimes
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 Месяц назад
That was pretty good, your suction line temp showed around 37 degrees. Basically for a low temp unit, I don't worry too much about the superheat while it's pulling down, but a low temp compressor doesn't like return gas above 40 degrees F. You were well below 40, so I think it'll live plus it has the airflow of the condenser fans over it.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Thanks for the tips!👍👍
@wd8557
@wd8557 Месяц назад
I would have rather done what you did than to trace down a leak. Another great video.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Great point! But I did that to. 🤣
@lavina58
@lavina58 Месяц назад
Nice video. Great job 🙌👍😊👌🍀
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
🙏👍👍
@atch_n_sons
@atch_n_sons Месяц назад
Keep setting that bar Rick. WWRD
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Hardly 😂. But thank you!
@elBusDriverKC
@elBusDriverKC Месяц назад
How many hours did this job take? I mostly do commercial rooftop compressor replacements. Between driving to the site, unloading all my equipment, getting in the building, getting to the ladder, climbing the ladder to the roof, hauling all tools to the roof including the new compressor, then doing the compressor job itself can take 8+ hours. Then when you throw in problems like you had in this video, the clock keeps running. I can only imagine this took a few days to get back in working order.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Because I had to come back and this job was over an hour away I had two full days in it. Normally, it would not take that long, but there was way too much moisture to let it go.
@ayoutubewatcher7009
@ayoutubewatcher7009 Месяц назад
That’s a 3 day job for me
@zwspiller7888
@zwspiller7888 Месяц назад
Need Mike Rowe for this one! Great video as always Rick!
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Thank you very much!
@ronaldclark8187
@ronaldclark8187 Месяц назад
Good video. Really dirty system. Ya had to clean up someones previous changeout. That HP drop was significant.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Yep doing another one today 😩
@zekenzy6486
@zekenzy6486 Месяц назад
Great video. Thank you for sharing. Have a nice weekend. May I ask, why freezer use 3 way reversing valve heat pump ? and for freezer, which high , low pressure , Super heat, subcooling number is good ?
@Boraxo
@Boraxo Месяц назад
Defrost?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
The reversing valve is used to melt the frost from the evaporator coil. Just like a heat-pump defrosts.
@crxshed
@crxshed Месяц назад
I have to ask if any of you guys have a good aluminium foil to wrap on armaflex to protect from uv?
@sherwinalvarez7365
@sherwinalvarez7365 Месяц назад
You're awesome too Rick.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
You’re too kind, thanks for watching!
@Josh.SPublishingTeam2024O
@Josh.SPublishingTeam2024O Месяц назад
Great video rick & job, nice troubleshooting, did you work on this equipment a few months ago, because it looks familar, i think this unit was a hussman, damm the compressor was loud at first but it shut off, the noise.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
No, I worked on one of their other stores. They have several so they have the same equipment and every building is the same.
@Josh.SPublishingTeam2024O
@Josh.SPublishingTeam2024O Месяц назад
@@HVACRSurvival or ok, because at the end of the video i noticed it was a masterbuilt
@DW-bo3qw
@DW-bo3qw Месяц назад
Gotta love those Mac units
@DW-bo3qw
@DW-bo3qw Месяц назад
Also I believe those units come with sporlan csg driers factory installed I don’t believe you need a bi flow drier for this unit
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
It’s the same design as a heat pump
@ironon3257
@ironon3257 Месяц назад
Hello my friend What cause making a compressor run reverse? Please Can you tell me more about this situation? Thank you
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
If it doesn’t have a capacitor it can be reversed phasing. If it does have a capacitor, the capacitor could be wired incorrect causing it to go in reverse
@calebburns4346
@calebburns4346 Месяц назад
I learned with my testo probes that i have to periodically take them off and make sure there still reading zero. Had a intellagen freezer not long ago that i was checking the suction transducer and almost called it a bad suction transducer, until i took my probe off and found that even though i Zero'd it prior it was at -7 open to atmosphere. Zero'd again and then i was reading the same as the board.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
I was setting up a freezer super heat two weeks ago and it was zeroed out before I went in there and when I got done, I thought it was set then rechecked it and it was completely off. I don’t believe these are compensated like they claim. At least not on the probes. They’re too cheap to be able to be that. When I got out my 557 it worked just fine so I don’t 100% trust the probes. Like you said though they really need zero out in the ambient temperature they’re gonna be operating in after they’ve stabilized in temperature.
@calebburns4346
@calebburns4346 Месяц назад
@HVACRSurvival I am not really impressed with the pressure probes. I stick to only using them for reach ins or prep tables. Even then, i usually just get the analogs with short hoses. I don't know if the field piece probes have the same issues, but I may switch to the field piece. I've had the sman380s for 5 years now, and I have not had a single issue. In fact, I still have the original temp clamps they came with.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 Месяц назад
@@HVACRSurvival I like my new(ish) Fieldpiece Sman's, they are more bulky than the Testo, but this newer one seems to hold a zero pretty good. That was annoying with my older fieldpiece, I could zero it out, and then after like 5-10 minutes I would have to zero it again. Was so frustrating to always remember to turn on the gauges right away before even taking them off the truck, to allow enough time for them to "warm up" and stop drifting. I think the one I have now is the SMAN 380v, not 100% sure tho.
@pattyPIMPIN
@pattyPIMPIN Месяц назад
Those Masterbilt MAC units suck, I would have replaced that DTC as well
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
I had another composure on a Mac unit go bad today. I’m ordering the liquid injection valve.
@commenter5469
@commenter5469 Месяц назад
That sight glass was burned upon brazing.
@dmiestercommkitchentech3043
@dmiestercommkitchentech3043 Месяц назад
Yea and without nitrogen purge
@lincolnhunt9558
@lincolnhunt9558 Месяц назад
never heard of a 4 way reversing valve on a walk in cooler or freezer. Does the outdoor coil have a separate metering device for the defrost cycle?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Nope. But the EXV only opens 50% from what I’ve read in the comments.
@Thermoelectric7
@Thermoelectric7 Месяц назад
Only place I've ever seen it is on fancy gelato freezers. Reverse cycle is way quicker than hot gas or electric on a single unit like that so helps limit the impact on product temp by means of a short defrost cycle. Neat stuff. Way more efficient too.
@brnmcc01
@brnmcc01 Месяц назад
@@HVACRSurvival Yeah, that's to provide some restriction to build up pressure to provide some heat in the coil. I don't like those kind of systems, the problem is, in the winter on a cold windy day, you get about one good blast of hot gas, then the heat is gone, and even then, you still need electric heaters for the drain pan and drain line, so it's a waste. I have only used electric defrost since the late 1990's. Last one that I worked on, they were using a Bryant 4 ton heat pump for a condensing unit with 2 Larkin evaporators and a receiver remote mounted on the roof beside the unit. Was a real shitshow to get that working correctly. It wasn't a freezer per se, it was a meat cooler, with box temp control set to 30 cut in, 28 cut out. Even though that's not a freezer, anytime you have a desired box temp of less than 35, you can't use off cycle air defrost anymore.
@SeanMackBuffaloStyle
@SeanMackBuffaloStyle Месяц назад
It was probably short cycling during hot gas defrost....I've found a few systems overcharged going off on high pressure safety during defrost....masterbilt only opens the eev 50 percent in hot gas defrost and can't be reprogrammed
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
That’s crazy but since there’s no TXV outside is likely why.
@Thermoelectric7
@Thermoelectric7 Месяц назад
It's not hot gas defrost, it's reverse cycle. Flips the evap and condenser around like a typical heatpump. Would be interesting to see what it's doing for metering, might just check around the EEV and go through a fixed orifice or something. Can't imagine that'd cause short cycling, as you get plenty of heat from the "condenser" to keep the pressure up
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
You’re probably on the right track, there’s so many things I would’ve done differently. I didn’t go into all the details of how much stuff was screwed up. I should’ve put out a timeline, but there was a lot of half ass hackery going on and stuff was being done in the rain storms.
@SeanMackBuffaloStyle
@SeanMackBuffaloStyle Месяц назад
@Thermoelectric7 the Evaporator fans don't run in reverse cycle like a heat pump, your not condensing, just robbing heat. That sounds like hot gas defrost to me. Short cycling on high pressure safety during defrost. If you restrict the Eev to 50 percent in defrost, your charge has to be perfect with no receiver.
@Thermoelectric7
@Thermoelectric7 Месяц назад
@SeanMackBuffaloStyle the reversing valve is what makes it reverse cycle, not hot gas. Hot gas defrost just dumps the discharge line past the expansion valve. Reversing valve swaps the evap and condenser. Hot gas would have 3 pipes going to the evap. Reverse cycle only needs two. It will 100% be condensing in the evaporator when in defrost. You don't need the evap fans running when it's a block of ice. All that discharge gas will condense as it melts the ice and warms the coil up. At which point it passes backwards through the metering device, into the condenser on the roof, evaporates, and is recompressed. Reverse cycle defrost pulls heat from the condenser on the roof and environment to defrost. Hot gas just uses the heat from the compressor. Massive difference. It'll never trip on HP in a reverse cycle defrost, unless the termination isn't working right, at which point your scenario would be right and it would run high head as there's no more ice in the coil to melt.
@zunar_j5_933
@zunar_j5_933 Месяц назад
Did a compressor initially burn out and contaminate the system and was never flushed out? Then subsequent compressors got wrecked? Edit: never mind, bet it was the pressure switch config if das shaft was broken.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
First they replaced the reversing valve then a short time later the pressure switch broke and dumped the charge. Then the pressure switch was replaced and I believe they set it up incorrectly, then the discharge line cracked and dumped the charge again, they repaired that then the compressor burned out shortly after that, then they replace the compressor and it snapped off the shaft a couple weeks after that. because the guy that replaced the compressor didn’t check the pressure switch, I believe it short cycled until it broke.
@zunar_j5_933
@zunar_j5_933 Месяц назад
@@HVACRSurvival man…what a cluster! Well done on the fix!
@BLUE_COLLAR_REFER
@BLUE_COLLAR_REFER Месяц назад
What a Big ol McKnightmare
@PS3PS3PS3PS3
@PS3PS3PS3PS3 Месяц назад
This customer must have deep pockets! How much time did it take you to do all of this and are you running other calls on these days?? I average 12-14 hours a day running 5-8 calls while adding more Work orders cause theres always something else broken 😅 ( I do hot side and beverage machines too btw)
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
I normally run 4-6 calls if they are easy.
@jonnymac31
@jonnymac31 Месяц назад
Cool man
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
✌️ hey John!
@dougking7592
@dougking7592 Месяц назад
Nice video for not intending to be, site glass looked way better brother
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Thanks. I’m updating my stock on Monday
@HardKnocks101
@HardKnocks101 Месяц назад
Walgreens
@Menik559
@Menik559 Месяц назад
How long have you been in the trade?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
1995
@Menik559
@Menik559 Месяц назад
It really shows. Thank you for the awesome videos!
@daleborg9070
@daleborg9070 Месяц назад
@@HVACRSurvival That is about the time I got out of the trade because of injuries. Did a lot of work for that company you were servicing.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
The store have their own maintenance guys, which they still do, but just like us they can’t find good qualified people so they only have a few guys now and now they us to take care of their several stores which are all spread out over Ohio.
@PhilJackZen
@PhilJackZen Месяц назад
Why not flush the system?
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Works it works good for line sets, but not so much for the condenser or evaporator coil.
@phxrus
@phxrus Месяц назад
Acid away with every compressor change
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
I debated using it. I’ve used it in the past and never had a problem.
@promisel1964
@promisel1964 Месяц назад
you can only polish it so much
@edwardgaddis8333
@edwardgaddis8333 Месяц назад
Good Ole Mac units. I hatem!
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
Shit dressing with special sauce. Just throw two True condenser units up there with regular Txv’s and call it a day… when these things get old they waste more money on maintaining and repairing them than what they saved by putting them in to begin with.
@edwardgaddis8333
@edwardgaddis8333 Месяц назад
@HVACRSurvival brother you're preaching to the choir. I've stood on the roof with a ops manager and asked why, his answer it's what McD wants. When I knew he was doing a remodel I asked don't use a Mac unit and if you must make it Heat Craft. He ends up putting in RPG/Master Junk. Some bean counter made this decision with in McD Corp and it stuck. If they used standard I could just run to a local vendor and boom fixed on the day but oh nooooooo....so a control board goes bad walk in down well guess what call a refrigerated truck out because the board need maybe 48 hrs to get here. Dumb!!!! Rant over lol
@steveblake8766
@steveblake8766 Месяц назад
341 thumbs up
@snidelywhiplash8923
@snidelywhiplash8923 Месяц назад
You're a magician, not a technician.
@HVACRSurvival
@HVACRSurvival Месяц назад
🤣😂👍👍
@Youngbl33zy
@Youngbl33zy Месяц назад
No, hes just a standard technician. You must’ve been let down by below standard technicians.
@snidelywhiplash8923
@snidelywhiplash8923 Месяц назад
@@Youngbl33zy Nope, that's never happened to me. I hire contractors by reputation and customer references I trust, not by price.
@mikefrayman5224
@mikefrayman5224 Месяц назад
Hi, I dislike Masterbuilt
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