2. The Bronze Age Collapse - Mediterranean Apocalypse 

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Well said, I feel the same. You will go down in history.

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Well, that was pretty much the creepiest way you could've said that you liked the video. Not that I'm judging. Sometimes a bit of creepiness is just what a comment section needs to spice things up.

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@@thegreatmoustachio by creepy you mean cryptic? sometimes being clever in a cute way is flattering, not creepy. It's all about perspective

@@thegreatmoustachio I think it was kind of nice. Really shows OP's appreciation of this man's craft and likens it to fine dining.

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They'd be stellar in video.

I have listened to the entire series whilst I work, and I am hungry for more!

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Pay this man.

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@@mattcrosby2310 decayed inside like blackened trees

That's exactly how it is - quite haunting ! As he said in the intro " What did it feel like to be a person alive at the time witnessing the end of their world" I wanted to answer " We are the ones alive at this time, , witnessing the end of ours"

My sentiments exactly.

No it isn't. When we talk about these collapses we are talking a out MASSIVE destruction, death, and mayhem on a scale we really don't understand because we haven't given the ancients near enough credit for the level of technology and civilization that was achieved.

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Cristian Espinal oh my such a brilliant analysis!

An excellent hypothesis.

Troy was supposed to have fallen in the 1100'sbc so it sounds legit to me. Seems like the more information becomes available, myths are proven to be fairly accurate. With variables like the Gobekli Tepe excavation, Australian DNA found inside uncontacted tribes in the Amazon (as of 2016) and the rain erosion on the quarry around the Sphinx at Giza indicates an unknown civilization that dates back to 9000bc - 10000bc that was sea faring, or multiple civilizations interconnected all the way to south America. Maybe the Olympians were inspired by various kings and kingdoms before the sea's ravenous hunger was quelled by their memori- jesus I've been listen to these videos too much

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That's a dangerous generalisation. "The ancients" also though lightning was divine, diseases could be cured with leeches, and thst the sun revolved around the Earth. And our most reliable and consistent methods of discerning reality aren't much older than a couple of centuries. But sure - even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Dude, what?

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Thank you! Yes, it is sometimes hard to feel optimistic about the future. We just have to keep organising and try to help out in the small ways we can.

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Hi Simba, really glad you enjoyed! He might appear at some point, especially if I do an episode on a the fall of Babylon...

This would encompass the fall of Persian empire to the Greeks of Alexander.

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Thank you, really glad you've been enjoying! I would like to do this at some point, maybe even hire someone to do it. But at the moment it would just be another thing for me to do that would delay the episode releases! I am looking into options though.

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Thank you! Yes, Cline's work is great, and was a source text for this episode.

Yeah I've got the Eric Cline clip on my saved to watch later list

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Your hypothesis has a problem right from the get-go: chronologically, the collapse of the Mycenaean palace society appears to have begun BEFORE any of the other regions of the Near East. It also occurred before the Sea Peoples invasions. The Mycenaeans were well integrated into the Late Bronze Age network of societies, so its collapse could have actually been a trigger that soon led to the collapse of the other participating societies. The leading theories about the origins of the Sea Peoples makes them a coalition coming from Aegean and Italian territories. Archaeologically, the Peleset of the Sea Peoples who settled in Palestine were clearly Mycenaean in origin. As for the culture of western Anatolia, it was actually far more Anatolian than it was Greek. The Linear B writing system never took root in western Anatolia, but the Luwian hieroglyphic script did. The only form of "writing" ever found at Troy has been a Luwian hieroglyphic seal, and there are border markers (we think that's what they are) carved into mountainsides by local rulers that use the Luwian script as well. Neither Greece nor Anatolia had any tin deposits to speak of, although they both have copper deposits. Greece, however, did sit smack in between European tin sources and the Near East. So any collapse of Mycenaean society could have had devastating effects on the availability of tin in the Near East. In fact, a recent theory I've heard is that the reason societies switched to iron - thus beginning the Iron Age - isn't because they figured out how to make steel out of it, but rather the reverse. A collapse in tin sources would have meant a collapse in the availability of bronze. Iron has a higher melting point which was actually a technological hurdle to overcome, and so less economically viable. But with bronze becoming harder to rely on, and with an abundance of iron, people basically had to make do with what was available, and in the process discovered the superiority of iron forged into steel. Also, we have some idea of how well or poorly the Greeks did at conquering western Anatolia, because we have Hittite historical sources to refer to. The Hittites conquered this area, and both fought and made treaties with Mycenaean rulers, and recorded their interactions. From the historical documents, we know that the Mycenaeans did conquer southwestern Anatolia once, but there is very little evidence of them being particularly active in Anatolia, and from what we do know, their success was limited and short lived. They very well could have employed a vassal state treaty system similar to what the Hittites did, but we have no evidence for it. And we have never been able to identify a central Mycenaean hegemon. How the various palaces of Mycenaean Greece interacted with each other is still a mystery.

Unless an unusually large about of archeological evidence from Ramses III battle of the delta emerges it will be impossible to make an identification... and such evidence is extremely hard to come by. Although some interpret the Ekwesh and the Denyen as Achaeans and Danaans, this seems a difficult interpretation, especially since the Mycenaean Greeks are referred in other Egyptian documents as Tanaju. Also many of the groups associated with the sea people’s are mentioned elsewhere. So it’s hard to make that association. But if the Mycenaean Greeks were expanding then why would they destroy their own cities? There was a rearrangement of Greek populations and it see,s that Mycenaeans from the Peloponnese were pushed inland into Arcadia. Other Greek groups occupied better lands and also had a colonial period after the Bronze Age collapse, from the 10nth or 9nth c bce onwards. Interestingly, the nostrils of Menelaus mentions a detour to Egypt but that’s about it. It’s actually a pretty strange passage in the Odyssey and might have been part of the list epic Nostoi. The most Greek related group of those peoples of the sea are once again the Pls3t, Peleset who might have been Pelasgoi... I.e. non-Greek speaking people who inhabited Greece alongside the Greeks and were displaced. They were resettled and became the Philistines. It just seems unlikely that all the big Bronze Age states collapsed after attacks by a band of pirates. Invasions and raids were commonplace. A combination of drought, famine, earthquakes, happening over a prolonged period of time seem more plausible. These precipitated the collapse of the trade routes which weakened the different states further and so when the next waves of attacks came they would be very costly and recovery would be severely delayed... as it was. Although it seems that Egypt, Assyria, Elam, Numidia actually survived the Bronze Age collapse?

True, the littoral of Anatolia was deeply and continuously connected to the Greeks from Mycenaean times onward, as they and archaic age Greeks conquered and held large swaths of western Anatolia, pushing the Hittites back continuously

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Thanks for listening. It's home at last by John Bartmann

Yes, early iron was softer than bronze, though it was much cheaper and easier to make.

I just found out about the Sea People and the whole population bomb theory its kinda scary it's like Africa right now

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Probably earthquakes that activated the volcanoes.