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Kings and Generals' historical animated documentary series on the history of ancient civilizations continues with a 3d tour of the main city of the Bronze Age Greece - Mycenae. In this video we will showcase the architecture and structure of the city, focusing on the religious practices, defenses, culture, and daily life of the Bronze age Greeks.
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@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals Год назад
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@loneranger6054
@loneranger6054 Год назад
A tour of city of Troy would be great hoping u read my comment ❤️
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
@@loneranger6054 I read your comment, and I am part of the team. I hope this brings you some joy to go with your morning coffee.
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
@@adityathakur467 Hell yeah, I am glad you got to learn a lot from these videos!
@_royanalief
@_royanalief Год назад
Give sound indonesiaa pleasee
@redsavage5997
@redsavage5997 Год назад
May i ask why didnt you use photos of how Mycenae is today. I mean you could put real time photos above the animation or at the end of the video for example. Im guessing you thought of it and discharged it as an idea. Sooo why not? The video was great anyways
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hi everyone! I am Christian Romero, the animator and modeler for this video. I worked on this video over the summer from late June to August, and it was a blast to work on. Even for the points it was challenging and where the renders accidentally broke close to the last minute - oops! But overall, I had a great time, and I'm happy we can finally share this video with you all! Cultural preservation and historic recreations are incredibly important to me, and I hope to work on more projects like this down the line. I am currently pursuing grad school, and I look forward to seeing where my studies take me. Hopefully they'll be as fun as this video was! I'm especially happy to have included my low-poly character models in various shots where people get mentioned. I think it's important for artists to inject their own creative spins on the projects they work on, and I think Kings & Generals does a good job of granting its artists that degree of freedom. Also fun fact: Heinrich Schleimann was supposed to make an appearance at the point that he gets mentioned with the Treasury of Atreus. He would've been really excited to see it, ready himself to throw a stick of dynamite at it, and then a comically large cane would've yanked him offscreen. However, I had to give myself time to move, so sadly that scene got left out. Also, special thank you to Ilkin Gambar for this very unique opportunity. It's been a fun and challenging time, and here's hoping I get to work on more cool stuff like this in the future. An additional thank you to Leif Sick, another animator on the team, for giving me invaluable feedback on making these renders and acting as tech support when things broke at the last minute. Look forward to your next video, my man! I hope you enjoy this video, and I look forward to hearing all of your thoughts! You can find more of my work at www.artstation.com/corlykia, and I certainly look forward to updating that page with everything cool I did for this project. If you've read this far: thank you dearly. I hope you go hug your loved ones, cherish the time you have with them, and also be critical of power structures and propaganda. Be curious, humble, nuanced, and above all else, be kind. Also play Fallout: New Vegas. Farewell, everyone. Solidarity Forever!
@br2485
@br2485 Год назад
I'm incredibly grateful for your work! It's beautiful and educational ❤
@user-cq1cw8xz7f
@user-cq1cw8xz7f Год назад
You turbo-gigachad! The work is absolutely STUNNING
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Thank you both so much!!
@elvincecodilla2862
@elvincecodilla2862 Год назад
Love your work, keep it up
@hydroac9387
@hydroac9387 Год назад
Very nicely done! Congrats on the excellent video! I hope to see more...
@Ecclesia_
@Ecclesia_ Год назад
Those are always heavy thoughts: that even to ancient civilisations there was already the concept of an ancient civilisation. For example: Cleopatra and Julius Caesar are closer in time to our world, than to the builders of the pyramids. As ancient as Cleopatra and Caesar are to us, the pyramid builders were even more ancient to them...
@nerobeyo2
@nerobeyo2 Год назад
And in turn, we will be considered ancients to the people in the far future. Heavy thoughts indeed. I wonder what they would've accomplished so far in the future. Will it be utopia? dystopia? or will there be nothing due to some cataclysmic event?
@skrrskrr99
@skrrskrr99 Год назад
@@nerobeyo2 some day some alien species will pull our bones and cities from the earth and have them in an alien museum.
@HeinVonderweid
@HeinVonderweid Год назад
@Ecclesia Great Comment!
@petar_mrkonjic
@petar_mrkonjic Год назад
​@@nerobeyo2 it will be more like here in this story in the future people will think our walls and city's was built by giants, like in whole human history after big civilization collapse is come a time of oblivion and people start from scratch again building thy own civilization with inspiration of old one
@bradmakesgains8779
@bradmakesgains8779 Год назад
And people alive during the construction of the pyramids probably had the concept of Göbekli Tepe and hunter gatherers
@kostasargiris3209
@kostasargiris3209 Год назад
It is fascinating the fact that the word "basileus"(king) in Mycenaean greek , was in fact describing a middle ranking officer of the state. The head of the kingdom was called Anax and thus the word anaktoro(palace). After the collapse of the great cities of the period, the smaller settlements survived under the commands of the basileus and thus the word started to describe the head of each state ! 2,500 thousand years later the emperors of Constantinople called themselves basileus of greeks and Romans!
@god-emperorofmankind8540
@god-emperorofmankind8540 Год назад
I had read about this recently. Some historians think that (w)anax is the original Greek word for king. Basileus might have entered the proto-Greek language from an unknown eastern culture.
@awesomehpt8938
@awesomehpt8938 Год назад
That cyclops waving hello and smiling just melted my heart! 🥹
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
I"m super glad you enjoyed! I was planning something silly for that scene for a while, and I eventually settled on that. It came out looking wonderful!
@sachemofboston3649
@sachemofboston3649 Год назад
@@corboy8414 how much do you charge? Do you have an email address where I could contact you?
@user-be4nm1fq5w
@user-be4nm1fq5w Год назад
It is interesting that the ancient Hellenes believed that the Myceneans were ancient giants who once roamed their lands, even though the Myceneans were actually their cultural forerunners. In much a similar way, the eastern Romans thought that the ancient Hellenes were ancient giants who had built all the classical ruins dotting their lands, even though the Hellenes were their cultural antecedents. Ironic, yet most amusing. Greek history is cyclical.
@nataliekennedy4646
@nataliekennedy4646 Год назад
Indeed
@liamjm9278
@liamjm9278 Год назад
At least they don't think aliens did it.
@anto-sk4ce
@anto-sk4ce Год назад
But the byzantines knew hellenic history how they thought they were giants
@lordadorable1140
@lordadorable1140 Год назад
@@liamjm9278 “Sweats in Japanese”
@user-be4nm1fq5w
@user-be4nm1fq5w Год назад
@@anto-sk4ce I will try to explain briefly. While the educated citizens of the state knew fully well who the ancient Hellenes were, the Hellenic history was not taught to the common people who filled the streets, the villages and all blocks of normal life. The average -Byzantine- Roman citizen had forgotten who the Hellenes were. They referred to the ancient ruins dotting the Mediterranean landscape as works of the _Hellenes_ ; namely, they believed that ancient giants had built them. The elites of the state did not encourage Hellenic learning and in many ways it was discouraged as it contradicted the Christian Roman ideology. This state of affairs most definitely lasted even under the Ottomans, until one day the Hellenic/Greek revolution happened in 1821, which aimed to establish a new and independent Hellenic state that sought to undo the Roman identity and re-hellenize the Greeks.
@JD-jl4yy
@JD-jl4yy Год назад
Really love the 3d reconstruction, but it would be cool to see the modern ruins as well, especially when a lot of it still remains, such as the Lion gate and Atreus tomb. The combination of real life ruins and reconstruction would really speak to the imagination :)
@dimitris9006
@dimitris9006 Год назад
Indeed! Also it would draw a clear line between fact and speculation.
@pieterhulsen9170
@pieterhulsen9170 Год назад
i have been there, they are indeed fascinating. the lions gate is imposing
@apexnext
@apexnext Год назад
Those 3d models were really cool. 😎👍
@Gentleman...Driver
@Gentleman...Driver Год назад
I believe its hard to find pictures without copyright. And it also wouldnt fit the art style of the channel.
@konstantinapapaioannou4306
@konstantinapapaioannou4306 Год назад
The fire in the centre of the megaron was called hestia. Both the words megaron and hestia, are still used in modern greek, the former means large residential building or large estate and the latter means flame, fire or even centre of activity. Just as hestia was at the centre of the house... The beauty of preserved language...
@enyalios316
@enyalios316 Год назад
Indeed. It is arguably the most conservative language in the world. But alot of terms were reintroduced because of the influence of the church and Καθαρεύουσα, and rightly so.
@msicvbes4977
@msicvbes4977 Год назад
@@enyalios316 Sure Catharevousa played an important role in restoring the modern greek language. Its use as the official language of the Greek state for two centuries influenced standard modern greek of the 21st century too.
@konstantinapapaioannou4306
@konstantinapapaioannou4306 Год назад
@@enyalios316 even without the influence of katharevousa, greek has a lot of words that habe direct roots from medieval, koine and classical greek. As you said yourself, it is a very conservative language. The linguists that I have read are actually mentioning how little it has change in the span of its 5,000 recorded history in comparison to other Indo-European languages like english, for example.
@enyalios316
@enyalios316 Год назад
@@konstantinapapaioannou4306 Sure, certain words like ἄνθρωπος, ἥλιος, γῆ and θάλασσα were in continuous use since Homer and before. But 400 years of Turkish occupation left the spoken language very vulgar and corrupted in some places, which is the main difference between demotic and standard modern greek. It had to be standardized and purified via the formal language used by the upper classes and influencial poets and linguists. Koraïs, Papadiamantis, Vyzantios, Voulgaris etc. The diglossia in Greece wasn't even that modern. It basically existed since the Hellenistic period.
@konstantinapapaioannou4306
@konstantinapapaioannou4306 Год назад
@@enyalios316 in all honesty, I think we give the turks way too much credit for corrupting our language. Greeks forget that for 1000+ year we were ROMAN and also called ourselves romans up until the 19th century, way way after the east and west roman empires fell. We have way more italian vocabulary than turkish. 380 years of ottoman rule ain't got nothing in comparison to a millenium of roman identity.
@PrimeroVorian1
@PrimeroVorian1 Год назад
Bronze age in Greece is so awesome! There are so many sites in Greece of that period, but in need of further excavation... Thank you for this cool video!
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah!
@NYCfrankie
@NYCfrankie Год назад
On my first trip to 🇬🇷 seeing the mycenae lions gate was awe inspiring
@biscolataman
@biscolataman Год назад
The origins of the Bronze Age Minoan and Mycenaean cultures have puzzled archaeologists for more than a century. We have assembled genome-wide data from 19 ancient individuals, including Minoans from Crete, Mycenaeans from mainland Greece, and their eastern neighbours from southwestern Anatolia. Here we show that Minoans and Mycenaeans were genetically similar, having at least three-quarters of their ancestry from the first Neolithic farmers of western Anatolia and the Aegean1,2, and most of the remainder from ancient populations related to those of the Caucasus3 and Iran4,5. However, the Mycenaeans differed from Minoans in deriving additional ancestry from an ultimate source related to the hunter-gatherers of eastern Europe and Siberia6,7,8, introduced via a proximal source related to the inhabitants of either the Eurasian steppe1,6,9 or Armenia4,9. Modern Greeks resemble the Mycenaeans, but with some additional dilution of the Early Neolithic ancestry. Our results support the idea of continuity but not isolation in the history of populations of the Aegean, before and after the time of its earliest civilizations.
@seaman5705
@seaman5705 Год назад
You are jocking, right ? Modern Greeks in the half northern part have up to 30% Slavic blood . Modern Greeks are also the result of countless re-population from Anatolia/Asia Minor . Do indicate , please , where we can find this nationalistic study !
@olenickel6013
@olenickel6013 Год назад
19 people is a ridiculously small sample size if you consider these are then also divided upon three distinct regions. I wouldn't draw as sweeping a conclusion about ancestry from that as the authors of that paper did.
@olenickel6013
@olenickel6013 Год назад
@@moutsatsosa No, I don't. Which is precisely why I won't make such claims about genetic relations.
@olenickel6013
@olenickel6013 Год назад
@@moutsatsosa Should we abandon scientific rigor over defensive online comments that throw the magic ideological buzzword of "canceling" at any kind of valid caveats as to the extent to which conclusions can be drawn from limited data?
@aokiaoki4238
@aokiaoki4238 Год назад
@@seaman5705 Are Slavs really a substantial genetic group?
@tilt12345678
@tilt12345678 6 месяцев назад
Amongst many other aspects, i am impressed by the narrator's impeccable pronunciation of the word "Isthmus".
@ancientsitesgirl
@ancientsitesgirl Год назад
AWESOME video! I was there a year ago, my favorite place in Greece❤❤❤
@markusskram4181
@markusskram4181 Год назад
I love Greek history so much
@enyalios316
@enyalios316 Год назад
Pausanias description of the lion gate: «Μυκήνας δὲ Ἀργεῖοι καθεῖλον ὑπὸ ζηλοτυπίας. ἡσυχαζόντων γὰρ τῶν Ἀργείων κατὰ τὴν ἐπιστρατείαν τοῦ Μήδου, Μυκηναῖοι πέμπουσιν ἐς Θερμοπύλας ὀγδοήκοντα ἄνδρας, οἳ Λακεδαιμονίοις μετέσχον τοῦ ἔργου: τοῦτο ἤνεγκεν ὄλεθρόν σφισι τὸ φιλοτίμημα παροξῦναν Ἀργείους. λείπεται δὲ ὅμως ἔτι καὶ ἄλλα τοῦ περιβόλου καὶ ἡ πύλη, λέοντες δὲ ἐφεστήκασιν αὐτῇ: Κυκλώπων δὲ καὶ ταῦτα ἔργα εἶναι λέγουσιν, οἳ Προίτῳ τὸ τεῖχος ἐποίησαν ἐν Τίρυνθι.» "It was jealousy which caused the Argives to destroy Mycenae. For at the time of the Persian invasion the Argives made no move, but the Mycenaeans sent eighty men to Thermopylae who shared in the achievement of the Lacedaemonians. This eagerness for distinction brought ruin upon them by exasperating the Argives. There still remain, however, parts of the city wall, including the gate, upon which stand lions. These, too, are said to be the work of the Cyclopes, who made for Proetus the wall at Tiryns." (Paus. 2.16.5.)
@julesknight1511
@julesknight1511 Год назад
Thermoplyae and ancient Mycenae separated by 1/2 millenia
@enyalios316
@enyalios316 Год назад
@@julesknight1511 Yes... And how long was Mycene inhabited?
@enyalios316
@enyalios316 Год назад
@@julesknight1511 That hasn't got anything to do with it. Pausanias states that in 480 BC. the inhabitans of Mycene sent 80 men to Thermopylae. So wtf is your issue?
@redsavage5997
@redsavage5997 Год назад
@@julesknight1511 ok and how does this contradict Enyalios comment? Yes in the video is presented Mycenae at its peak around 1200 BC and the guy above is stating a comment of Pausanias which was made about the city some centuries later. It was the same city inhabited by the descendants of the classical era city .How does one comment contradict the other. You make no sense .Its like arguing with yourself. The video explains everything perfectly
@jillscott4029
@jillscott4029 Год назад
@@redsavage5997 Presumably he's sharing a description of the lion gate from antiquity, because it might have been more clear that they were lions then.
@lionspirit100
@lionspirit100 Год назад
Just arrived in Nafplion and going to Mycenae tomorrow what a great coincidence!
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah! Hope you enjoy your visit!
@bosertheropode5443
@bosertheropode5443 Год назад
Man, I'd love to visit the mycenean palaces one day. Lucky you ;)
@jasonmcwhirter7093
@jasonmcwhirter7093 Год назад
I LOVE this! I love learning about ancient history, but before Rome, Greek, and mid or late Egyptian civilizations. We are finding so many civilizations older than them.
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah! I am glad you enjoyed :)
@vane909090
@vane909090 Год назад
It's interesting to think about that even for the classical time ancient Greeks the Myceneans were ancient history already.
@50PullUps
@50PullUps Год назад
I LOVE LOVE LOVE the animation at 0:37. Two ladies spot a cyclops who does a double-take and then waves.
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah! I am super glad you enjoyed that gag! Makes me all the happier that I included it :)
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea Год назад
In the 12th century BCE, the Mycenean Empire started a decline of central control and eventual collapse. It's not known what exactly caused this once powerful civilization to come to a drastic end, but what is known is that the Greek world entered a chaotic period of nomadic migrations, invasions and fragmentation.
@abcdedfg8340
@abcdedfg8340 Год назад
I feel like it was closer to a loose confederation of monarchs. But just going from what i read. Not an expert. But they certainly seem to have united at some level when they wanted to take over crete, fight the trojans, or something else. Unfortunately we dont seem to have details on their alliance systems, unlike the classical period.
@profesorstevabakmaz4822
@profesorstevabakmaz4822 Год назад
Written text was not "practiced" for 400 years, and decorations for example went onto much more simpler style. By this im just adding to your statement, which is actually called Dark Ages of the Bronze/ancient times. There is a great book and hypothesis called 1177 BC. That's what they take now as a year for a great floods, droughts, earthquakes and ofc Sea people ☺️ And not only for the Mycenaean civilization. Same for the Hittites, Assyrians, etc... It's called as well thr collapse of the Bronze Age!
@julesknight1511
@julesknight1511 Год назад
Their decine came about during the bronze age collapse, the only unknown is how the actual city itself fell - either by revolt or war
@ranjanroy82
@ranjanroy82 Год назад
Advent of the sea people
@chill_vibes3795
@chill_vibes3795 Год назад
They got carpet bombed by the Atlantian air force
@aliA-jz5ms
@aliA-jz5ms Год назад
Ahh !! All western historians especially from UK start with Greece and end on Greece !! Please also make videos on Indus Valley Civilization and Punjabi kingdoms at the time of Alexander !
@user-ff6oo4qc1c
@user-ff6oo4qc1c Год назад
Greetings from Mycenae! I live at the village which is closer to Mycenae, about less than a kilometer away! Μυκήνες, το μέρος των προγόνων μου!!!
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hello! I am so glad someone from around Mycenae actually got to check out this video, I hope you enjoyed!!
@HistorywithCy
@HistorywithCy Год назад
Watching this I felt like a wanax roaming through my palatial citadel! Nice one guys, really loved this one!
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah, I am glad you enjoyed it! Keep up the good work on your end, too!
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 Год назад
How architects and engineers managed to build these things 3,500 years ago staggers me...
@andreaspitsinis255
@andreaspitsinis255 Год назад
@@moutsatsosa tell me about this empire building music
@alejandrosakai1744
@alejandrosakai1744 Год назад
A studio made at Harvard University suggests that Modern Greeks are descendants of Mycenaeans and Minoans, which means that the Ancient Athenians, Thebans, Aeolians, and Ionians had the blood of Achilles and Odysseus, and the Dorians like the Spartans and the Corinthians were descendants of Heracles!
@Bogey1022
@Bogey1022 Год назад
I've waited all my life for this.
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
I am glad that we have brought this to fruition for you, my friend.
@zerubiszeus4687
@zerubiszeus4687 4 месяца назад
Taking a western history class, and this video helped immensely since textbooks often become tiring to look at
@sevoo1579
@sevoo1579 Год назад
More than 20 Hittite tablets are also refering to Achaens as Ahhiyawa and Troy as Wilusija/Wilusa (Ilios?). With Wilusa deity being Appalliunas (Apollo?) and the Wilusa lord being Alaksandu (Alexandros=Paris?)
@sevoo1579
@sevoo1579 Год назад
@@moutsatsosa Nice, have you got discord ? and some books to recommend ? Thank you
@zaboybagoi8636
@zaboybagoi8636 Год назад
@@Bramble451 Tarwisha,Wilusha and Mitilini were different cities of same Luwic kingdom.Mycenaians called it Ilios League.
@zaboybagoi8636
@zaboybagoi8636 Год назад
@@Bramble451 Greeks called this region "Ilios",not Trojans.Troy was a city and also the name of a dynasty who ruled the lands around Mount Ida. This is why old text may call Wilusa or Mitilini as "Troy".
@nikkimakropoulos
@nikkimakropoulos Год назад
Im half Greek as my dad's from Emathia and I would absolutely love to visit Greece, such an amazing country and history.
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
I hope you get a chance to visit one day! I am glad this video inspires this pride
@nikkimakropoulos
@nikkimakropoulos Год назад
@@corboy8414 Thank you so much! Great job on the animations btw hope to see more!
@pickaxingoneuropa8457
@pickaxingoneuropa8457 Год назад
this is PURE CLASS!
@V-man117
@V-man117 Год назад
The Myceneans were the first of the Greeks dating all the way back to 1600 b.C. They were a strong military power in the region and a great civilization 🇬🇷
@jk-gb4et
@jk-gb4et Год назад
Minoans
@god-emperorofmankind8540
@god-emperorofmankind8540 Год назад
@@christos3280 Where are you getting this information from? The Minoans were not Greeks. They did not even speak the Greek language. Their religion and customs were not even remotely Greek. The Minoans were however assimilated by Greek-speaking populations which settled in Crete, before it was Greek.
@god-emperorofmankind8540
@god-emperorofmankind8540 Год назад
@@christos3280 How about, every serious historical book ever written? Minoans culturally influenced the earliest Greeks, but they were not Greeks. They spoke a different language and had a different religion. They lived in Crete, and as their civilization fell, they were assimilated by the spreading Mycenean civilization. This is why Crete became a part of the later Hellenic civilization after Homer. It is also farfetched to say that every Greek today has Minoan descent.
@god-emperorofmankind8540
@god-emperorofmankind8540 Год назад
@@christos3280 The only thing weirdly formulated here is your hilarious claim that the Minoans were Greeks. This is the revisionism. Apparently, you paid little attention in history class. Minoans as a civilization predated the earliest Greeks. To see Greeks claiming Minoans as Greeks is like Turks claiming that Trojans were Turks, just because Troy once existed within the modern confines of Turkey.
@god-emperorofmankind8540
@god-emperorofmankind8540 Год назад
@@christos3280 I did not twist your words. The opening post above said that the first Greek civilization was the Myceneans, a statement with which most historians will happily agree upon. Then you sprang from below and claimed that the Minoans were the first Greek civilization. It was obvious what you were trying to assert. So I did not twist your words. You made an untrue statement and I responded to it, because I know for a hard fact that your claim is wrong.
@pseudomonas03
@pseudomonas03 Год назад
Very good video again! Only that the doubt about the Trojan War, it's non sensical, since the Hittites in their archives they had references not only for one, but for at least three Trojan wars, confirming the archeological finds (multiple destructive events), and the mythological stories as well (for example the first sack of Troy by Hercules etc).
@angelcabeza6464
@angelcabeza6464 Год назад
So it wasn't nonsensical then of it was porven to happen not by gifs but by men
@petervoller3404
@petervoller3404 Год назад
The doubt isnt whether or not the historical city of Troy was at some point partially destroyed by war (which yea we can be fairly confident happened at some point), the doubt is whether or not that war was being referenced by Homer, which is more doubtful as the dates dont quite line up
@pseudomonas03
@pseudomonas03 Год назад
@@petervoller3404 Many times we forget thar the two main ancient Greek historians Herodotus and Thukydides also considered the Trojan War as a historic event. So the doubt about Homer's poetic narrative is one thing, but to doubt that the Trojan War ever happened, it's non sense.
@petervoller3404
@petervoller3404 Год назад
@@pseudomonas03 like I say, it's the details about the war that are doubted though, just saying "a war at troy happened" is the same as saying THE trojan war happened
@pseudomonas03
@pseudomonas03 Год назад
@@Bramble451 The oral tradition though is based on real historical events. For example the Fall of Constantinople it was still present in the folk songs of the Greek world even 400 years after the historical event. The same could happened in the case of the Trojan war(s).
@kostastat1323
@kostastat1323 Год назад
Thank you so much for this. I remember visiting as a kid this place and my father reading to me the stories of the Iliad and the Odyssey. One of the best memories of my life. It's so beautiful to see what I could only imagine back then!
@roscoe4092
@roscoe4092 Год назад
Such a good episode!!! Can’t wait for you to cover the Minoans :)
@Jobe-13
@Jobe-13 Год назад
Really fascinating. I always like learning more about pre-classical Greece.
@profesorstevabakmaz4822
@profesorstevabakmaz4822 Год назад
My biggest love in history for the last 2 years, freaking Bronze age! I recommend to everyone to watch or read 1177 BC by Eric H. Cline, its only about the collapse but still to me its the most interesting thing, because its so mystifying. Kings and Generals thank you guys!!!
@xxcoopcoopxx
@xxcoopcoopxx Год назад
Nah, just read the originals. Thucydidies, Plato, Aristophanes, the Pre-socratics, etc. will teach one far better. And, you'll be thinking for yourself. Read Cline and Jowett, Durant, Russell, Buckle, etc. to see how different your thoughts were from the best. Or, buy your stairway to heaven.
@profesorstevabakmaz4822
@profesorstevabakmaz4822 Год назад
@@xxcoopcoopxx Thanks for the advice
@tannertasman
@tannertasman Год назад
Yes! Please more of these tours!
@barrandilltanathlas1177
@barrandilltanathlas1177 Год назад
I would just like to say thank you for all your videos so far, and especially your use of BC and AD for calendar eras.
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah
@user-bb4hu8ff5y
@user-bb4hu8ff5y 9 месяцев назад
kings and generals, this is great work im so glad that i found you! so historically accurate too, in total sync with all the latest bibliography and history sourxes that i had researched. thank you for helping me put a picture on the theory so that it will be easier for me to remember! so wonderfully educational, i will be syggesting the video and the channel to everyone!
@jimbojangles9056
@jimbojangles9056 Год назад
Really hoping you guys delve as far back as you can. Ancient history just amaze's me
@TinyEpics
@TinyEpics Год назад
Interesting work. I’m obsessed with the Bronze Age Greeks, especially after visiting Mycenae last spring. What an incredible place!
@konstantinosserres3598
@konstantinosserres3598 Год назад
I have visited the ruins almost 15 years ago... I plan to visit them again once my 4 year old son reaches an age where he will understand history... Thnx for this amazing time travel!!
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah, I am glad we could provide this! I hope you enjoy visiting the site with your son! I hope your son enjoys learning about Mycenae too!
@julesknight1511
@julesknight1511 Год назад
Right on! I've always been fascinated by the bronze age and the world shattering bronze age collapse that ended it
@Freewill33
@Freewill33 Год назад
Thanks for putting this vid together with the building/graves animations n their treasures, I’ve just got into the Myceneans civilization def one of the first stone fortress to be constructed. Amazing!
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah, glad you enjoyed!
@joshlesure3196
@joshlesure3196 Год назад
I'll always enjoy learning about the Bronze Age. I didn't know there were so many theories about the Bronze Age collapse! Amazing video, as always!
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah, and glad you enjoyed it!
@hammer1134
@hammer1134 Год назад
Makes me want to go there awesome video as always
@GairBear49
@GairBear49 Год назад
I'm a long time subscriber and have watched you become a truly excellent history channel. Your 3D Documentaries are stunning. As a certain Vulcan once said "Live Long And Prosper".
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Live long and prosper, my guy! I am so glad you enjoyed the video, and hope you keep learning new things!
@stamkos33
@stamkos33 Год назад
Awesome video, thank you
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah, you are welcome.
@ravensthatflywiththenightm7319
I've waited such a long time for this one! ❤❤❤
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
I'm glad it's finally come to pass for you! I hope it was worth the wait!
@Alexq79-
@Alexq79- Год назад
Awesome video, I love tours like these
@user-qh9yf9hk3e
@user-qh9yf9hk3e Год назад
perfect video love from Greece
@freezinginferno2106
@freezinginferno2106 Год назад
I just came back from doing an archeological practicum in Crete, I hope we find a definitive answer to the bronze age collapse within my lifetime
@fidelisokodu201
@fidelisokodu201 Год назад
I love this channel. So educative and and the same time entertaining.
@Numba003
@Numba003 Год назад
I'm still loving the Bronze Age videos! I'm excited for more! Plus I enjoyed the animations in this one. 😄 Thank you! Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)
@christopherhanton6611
@christopherhanton6611 Год назад
o my o my i am speechless Kings and Generals this episode was so Beautiful KEEP DOING MORE PLEASE 🙏
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah, glad you enjoyed it! More videos like these are definitely on the way!
@denniscleary7580
@denniscleary7580 Год назад
More of this please
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah, absolutely. I'm setting off into the RU-vid Sunset, but more videos like this are absolutely on the way.
@dinsdalemontypiranha4349
@dinsdalemontypiranha4349 Год назад
Thanks! I've always been fascinated by this culture, so it was great to watch this video.
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah, I am glad you enjoyed it!
@serge-partykingtech5923
@serge-partykingtech5923 Год назад
Amazing work like always guys !
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Thank you!
@Jonnygurudesigns
@Jonnygurudesigns Год назад
Absolutely stunning
@showze21
@showze21 Год назад
excellent summary of Mycenae
@thepwrjunkie7378
@thepwrjunkie7378 Год назад
The reconstruction & 3D renders really bring this to life in a new way. It's excellent work
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Thank you so much, I super appreciate your kind words!
@user-yr4js5zq1k
@user-yr4js5zq1k Год назад
Without wanting to offend the other civilizations but your greek and eastern roman videos are some of the best and would love to see more videos about them
@peterjones7673
@peterjones7673 Год назад
A fantastic video with it being great in 3D it brought great memories back from when I visited here on a school trip many years ago. Great, more pllease
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah, I'm glad the 3D brought back great memories for you! That's a great thing for me to hear as an artist - that something I make, especially a recreation of something real, can evoke such fondness and nostalgia. Hope you have a lovely day!
@georgepapatheofilou6118
@georgepapatheofilou6118 Год назад
Cool Fathers Day gift for me in the land down under. Impressive work . Kudos to all the team .
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah, I am glad you enjoyed it!
@manuelapollo7988
@manuelapollo7988 Год назад
The quality of this video is incredible
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Thank you so much!!
@Juandiegostefan
@Juandiegostefan Год назад
best channel ever damn it, it just keeps getting better
@MichaelSmith-ij2ut
@MichaelSmith-ij2ut Год назад
Tour of Thebes maybe? 👉👈
@vbw4551
@vbw4551 Год назад
Hope someone makes Tv series about it "beyond the trogen war". Would love to see a reel adaption of that era.
@nestormakepontos9700
@nestormakepontos9700 Год назад
Incredible to imagine the city so huge and developed even though the city was made 2000 years ago
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
We don't know the full extent of how much developed the Lower Town was compared to the Citadel, but it was definitely fun to imagine what everything would look like. Had to take more than a few artistic liberties, especially with the buildings. Bronze Age society and architecture was surprisingly advanced in a multitude of ways.
@JD-jl4yy
@JD-jl4yy Год назад
3500 years ago! The Myceneans lived about a 1000 years before the classical Greeks.
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ Год назад
Fantastic video! I love the 3D rendering of how the ruins might have looked when they stood proudly in the ancient past.
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Thank you! Those models were a lot of fun to make!
@kallebures1891
@kallebures1891 Год назад
Brilliant! That was so epic I loved the reconstruction. Will there be a similar video for Knossos as well? As it was the 2. Most famous Greek bronze age palace.... Greetings from Germany
@madsdahlc
@madsdahlc Год назад
Great video and grrat animation showing one of most powerfull citystates in bronze age greece. Mycenae was just one many citystates in ancient bronze age Greece. ....
@JD-jl4yy
@JD-jl4yy Год назад
So cool to see the reconstruction after having walked through the ruins myself! I can remember walking through the lion gate and looking down into the excavated grave circle A. Also, you can visit the tomb at 10:00, and it looks a lot more impressive in real life!
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
God I can only imagine how surreal that is. I hope to visit one day myself, after spending so much time rendering the darned thing.
@JD-jl4yy
@JD-jl4yy Год назад
@@corboy8414 The whole Peloponnese is brimming with history, you can't drive a 100m without without coming across a brown board pointing towards an archeological site! We went Athens > Corinth > Epidaurus > Argos and Mycenae > Sparta. Do recommend! And thanks a lot for the reconstruction, you did a great job! I imagine there's not that many sources out there to build a reconstruction from.
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
@@JD-jl4yy God that sounds incredible, and I would love to visit one day! Glad you got a chance to check it out! I'm super glad you liked the reconstruction, too! It was a real challenge to piece together various other imaginings and reconstructions to make this video. Definitely had to take a LOT of artistic liberties, which sadly comes with the territory of this stuff. Also, super happy to see the Lion Gate is still intact. There's something very special about making a replica of a work of art that someone else made 3500 years ago. Like, this art and the act of creation connect you and the original artists together across time and space. It's really neat.
@_Cosimo_09
@_Cosimo_09 Год назад
Excellent video!!
@jaymsu9671
@jaymsu9671 Год назад
I just visited and made sure to watch your video first. Nice introduction.
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
I'm so glad our vid acted as a primer for your trip to the actual site. Hell yeah!
@SIERRATREES
@SIERRATREES 8 месяцев назад
This was so instructive ; being able to visualize it, giving a great sense of what it was like ; albeit, I still like the challenge of re-imagining ancient sites from crumbling stones, for we cant always have access to brilliant 3D work such as this. I love the little touch of sparkling wall torches inside the treasury of Atreus ; It gives a sense of what it would have been like, just after the final finishing touches and ceremonial acts were completed, right before it was all sealed.
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 8 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your kind words! Glad you enjoyed!
@hugodesrosiers-plaisance3156
That relieving triangle at 9:30 is a fascinating early try at expressing the concept of the arch.
@DeepDarkSamurai
@DeepDarkSamurai Год назад
Yo this was good, I'd love to see similar about other ancient civilizations of this age, the bronze age is extremely interesting and this format is very strong
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah, much love and respect from the K&G team to an esteemed wizard
@mahmodsalman6920
@mahmodsalman6920 7 месяцев назад
Your videos on bronze age turn attention towards great civilisations that deserve to talk anout I hope you do a video on the city of ugarait
@salilbhatnagar
@salilbhatnagar Год назад
This animation is absolutely fantastic!
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah, thank you!!
@maxjelley4055
@maxjelley4055 Год назад
Amazing video
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah, glad you enjoyed!
@user-uu1xr2fs6y
@user-uu1xr2fs6y Год назад
Hello K&G! I love your videos and i admire the effort that you must put into making them. In this video though you placed the ancient city of Μycenae geographicaly whrong. Just to the west of isthmos is the city of ancient Corinth, Mycenae is to the north of modern day city of Argos, for someone who lives in the US this might not look far apart but for Hellenic standards it is entirelly different location. Thank you for your content!
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 Год назад
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
@tropics8407
@tropics8407 Год назад
That was brilliant. Man…if you could mix this in with actual parent day pics or video 🤯🤩
@Auto_Learning
@Auto_Learning 9 месяцев назад
An incredible amount of work must have gone into this animation. The level of detail is really impressive. People in the past would have killed for this type of learning experience. Keep up the great work, man.
@felipefspb
@felipefspb Год назад
Impressive video. I love your youtube Channel!
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
Hell yeah, this RU-vid channel loves you too. I as the animator definitely appreciate your kind words!
@pauleugenio5914
@pauleugenio5914 Год назад
These videos are really great - I really appreciate the transition to modern ruins. It helps to contextual use the archaeology 🏰⛏🗿 I would be very interested in a video showing pre-excavation to post-excavation to show how the archaeology progresses. (Just throwing the idea out there.)
@pauleugenio5914
@pauleugenio5914 Год назад
🤠
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
@@pauleugenio5914 thank you for your kind words! I think pre-to-post excavation could be interesting, but it would vary wildly from place to place. Like studying Mycenae as it is today, there's not a whole lot about the ruind that really changed/got unearthed besides the grave circles. Though I like the idea of showing some of these ruins as if they are currently being investigated by an archaeological team. That would be nifty to see in a video like this.
@patrizioqualireto8433
@patrizioqualireto8433 Год назад
Amazing! My sincere compliments
@Music-lx1tf
@Music-lx1tf Год назад
Nice presentation I enjoyed it
@Paladinae
@Paladinae Год назад
If only this video had existed, when I was examined in ancient history during my studies. Renowned professor Lengauer often asked: "After passing through a Lion Gate, what would you see on the right? Thank you for great, inspiring and educational video!
@cirthador1453
@cirthador1453 Год назад
This is so cool!
@marekr.9339
@marekr.9339 Год назад
I would like to see similiar documentry about Forum Romanum.
@vazak11
@vazak11 Год назад
Very informative!
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 Год назад
I love these videos, strolling through an ancient city. Could you do a Roman fort, such as Vindolanda?
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
I can't give specifics, but K&G would love to do more such videos like this. I sadly can't do any more myself, for I am departing for an unknown and hostile land (grad school). But, hope your wish comes true eventually!
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 Год назад
@@corboy8414 Good luck at grad school, I love these vids of yours!
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
@@jonbaxter2254 thank you kindly! Good luck in your life endeavors too!
@ctangkau
@ctangkau Год назад
@@corboy8414 Hi, do you have discord? I would like to ask some questions. Thanks!
@corboy8414
@corboy8414 Год назад
@@ctangkau Hi, I didn't see this, what kind of questions do you have? I don't want to give my discord out here, but if you join the K&G discord and post there, I can try my best to answer your questions depending what they are. I'm only the modeler, so any history questions would have to be answered by someone else. Otherwise, look forward to hearing what you would like to ask!
@bjohns347347
@bjohns347347 Год назад
Awesome topic.
@specialnewb9821
@specialnewb9821 Год назад
Bronze age is fascinating. It feels like such a different world. If the collapse hadn't happened I think hunan civilization might have developed differently.
@parvuspeach
@parvuspeach Год назад
my favorite timeframe, nice
@lexington476
@lexington476 Год назад
Well if nothing else I learned that the beam above a door is called a lentil, actually looked that up during the video to figure out what the narrator was talking about 🙂. Fantastic video.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 Год назад
Nice documentary
@ToxicallyMasculinelol
@ToxicallyMasculinelol 9 месяцев назад
really excellent model of mycenae. wow.
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