20 Horrible Things Done By Influential People 

Haven't heard a bad word against Robin Williams or Michael J Fox, either.

so was mr rogers

Roger Staubach too

Yes Keanu Reeves is a great guy.😄

Constantine wants a word.

Um... no. There are good human beings. Despite his drawbacks, MLK is a great man worthy of being known about and whose legacy deserves recognition. The issue is deifying people. And with European culture, who is considered great is hella terrifying, because there are MANY white people who fought for civil rights and sought to end colonization and imperialism. But that's not who is considered great. John Brown should be on every person's lips, but the same people who dismiss and reason away mass unaliving by the likes of Columbus and the U.S. Founding Fathers cannot stand him because... well let's just say he wasn't as discriminating in *WHO* he was mass unaliving

So what should we name them? Numbers, Binary? I Love that one. Could be fun.

​@@XaraK1Laughing at sexual abuse and not helping the victim is much more than a "drawback"

With regards to dangers of deifying. A warmongering religeous leader that married a 9 year old girl was not mentioned, but a peaceful charity worker that overzealously converted a few people was. Bias?

We can't automatically believe someone who speaks ill of the dead. They waited until the person wasn't here to defend themselves, and that's not fair.

You explained it so well. Just because some people made history doesn't automatically make them perfect or godlike. They are still the same species as pedestrians walking on the street every day.

I actually just saw a situation like this in a Joy Division comment section on RU-vid. I love this band and they did nothing wrong, but they were being put on a pedestal by their fans. They would rub in people's faces how better the past was, college students with first jobs were seen as lesser than Ian Curtis, the bandmates' talents were described in a way that made other musicians seem insignificant. It made me sad to see Ian Curtis, a struggling young musician, being treated like a god. It's like giving a cancer patient a pat on the back for just suffering. I simply see him as a human that inspired me to write my own poetry. Nothing more, nothing less. Same goes for the rest of the band getting me into post-punk. It was bizarre seeing them being thrown into sensationalism when they were actually against that.

True. Present the facts and let the student form their own opinions. That's actually the way all schooling should be, but I digress.

@PrincessDie187 And yet, he is looked upon as a god by many.

Absolutely

weird/bizarre/strange Steve Jobs named one of his computers "The LISA."

What if he didn't want the baby? He should have the right to say no. That's what women get to do. I'm just standing for "men's rights"! I don't actually think that. Men AND women should own responsibility for their decisions. It just somehow doesn't work that way.

@@allforugod only the woman is risking her life, to give birth. these are very high stakes, while for the man there are no stakes at all. he can just wander away any time he wants. he gets no say whatsoever.

Bill Burr was right. Nerds held him in such high regard but was he really that great? He was also part of the deal between Disney and Universal to underpay animators so they had no competitive pay and no choice but to accept worse working conditions or be fired that lead to the 2008 strike in Hollywood

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@@mszoomy Hi, honey. That irked me too. I hate to sound like the grammar police, but come on !!

Never meet your heroes in real life, because you might be very disappointed. I did and I was 😢 !...

@@alancrisp1582 Come on, who was it?

@@Jenifer_R_ sorry 🙏 but I would rather not say. Because although this happened a few years ago now . I am still traumatized by the whole experience 😔 !.

They might just be avoiding a law suit.

@@Kat19760 Excatly.

🤔 You and me both !..

Good fashion!

JEH was a horrible, horrible person.

I heard he died alone, and his maid and chauffeur found his body, both black people. ... and he was a cross dresser ..he liked to dress in womans cloths.

@@Alpha67Wolf Nowdays that would be considered his redeeming quality, and his transgressions would be hidden so as not to tarnish the trans community.

Not to mention, He stole the idea which made him famous.

i dunno how he communicated with them

​@@SirsasthNigam. He taught them to speak using pictures and hand placements over the face and throat and how to read lips. Essentially, I think he was wrong to prevent sign language from growing.

Lipreading is especially stressful for the deaf. Nowadays, there are schools that offer sign language. I'm taking sign language classes in college right now. I recently bought a book about Hellen Keller, but was genuinely shocked when she did this before I even had a chance to read it. Yeah, that just sours my taste in historical idols I've ever known. And how does Graham Bell spell hypocrite?

and the fact that i - and many others- had to learn about it as as adult via an interview with George Takei instead of history class in school

Living in the PNW we are taught about it because it's an integral part of our Asian community. It is sad the rest of the nation does not learn it as we do.

It is sad that this happened nonetheless, but thanks to war, anything could have happened. The Japanese killed a lot of American POWs after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, which roared negative sentiment on Japanese communities. After president Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066, General DeWitt (who was head of defense in the west coast) took the racist approach of beginning to put Japanese-American civillians in internment camps (which we know 99% of them were innocent). We cannot repeat this approach here in the US ever again, we have to learn from our mistakes.

It is sad that this happened nonetheless, but thanks to war, anything could have happened.

The Japanese killed a lot of American POWs after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, which roared negative sentiment on Japanese communities. After president Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066, General DeWitt (who was head of defense in the west coast) took the racist approach of beginning to put Japanese-American civillians in internment camps (which we know 99% of them were innocent).

It's not conversion when it's forced. They were killing people who weren't converting but then again white Christians kill people who don't convert which is why they are so f****** popular because they kill their enemies. Even if their enemies don't want to kill them.

Yes one of the biggest cowards ever lived all world leaders are cowards send people in the battle then hide

Churchill would know. He thought Indians were subhuman and brutalized them. He also purposefully starved and killed millions of them. Our heroes from the past are going to be problematic to most of us in this new world but as adults we should be able to praise their heroic side but with our eyes wide open.

One thing Churchill & Woodrow Wilson had in common? They were really racist, and displayed racist beliefs. Yikes!

Churchill and Roosevelt were huge alcoholics, unlike that unmentionable enemy leader who never drank alcohol and championed animal welfare.

Charles Lindburgh also believed in eugenics...

A lot of people believed in it at the time, including Margaret Sanger.

Keller wasn't famous as a baby or child - that was in adulthood and after her achievements. I'd say that she only advocated for it because she appreciated as to how extremely fortunate she was to have a loving , supportive family who were also wealthy - which therefore provided her with the future she eventually lived. Circumstances that wouldn't have occurred otherwise for others..

@@Tracymmo Sanger started a whole organization just to annihilate an entire portion of the American population. She was more evil than can be imagined!

What she MIGHT have meant was that nobody should have to go through the same darkness as she was forced to endure. Not everyone is accepting of handicapped people and when people don't understand or refuse to accept it, they ostracize and villainize them. It's socially as difficult as it is physically.

That is because its sells.

Louis (Orphan) With Rina Sawayama & Thomas Doherty

Except for when referring to gender re-assignment surgery, right?

​@@Paul-nn9ojSeek help.

​@@Paul-nn9oj, How is that a bad thing, though? That's just a person becoming transgender.

​@@Paul-nn9oj, How is that a bad thing, though?

Ahhh, yes. They’re flawed and you’re flawed, so all the same? Except they did something great with their lives, unlike, well, you?

They are at the very least all narcissists 🥰

facts!! any person that look for glory, power, fame, money is problematic

@paul-nn9og no not really.! Some are some aren’t!

He's free...there was no evidence....they wanted him to die behind bars...it didn't happen...He's at home with his family.....DJT is a felon & is still able to run for POTUS...that's beyond me....anywho....When is he going to pay the woman for what he did?

Yes..I remember him on Captain Kangaroo back in the day...

​@@caronstout354Really?! If only Mister Moose had something heavier than ping pong balls drop on him.

I was just thinking about the questionable things Cosby's done

No one said anyone is.

​@@TeddyB-hf3ksSome people would beg to differ.

@@kevinmurker8980 For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God

True, and the Chinese will never forget what the Japanese did to them, as they now go about Asia doing that same hated thing to others

She was an awful selfish narcissist person

And intentionally re-used syringes, contributing to the spread of the HIV in India despite knowing that even where single-use needles canulas etc. are unavailable, auto-claving of reusable equipment had become the standard of practice world-wide by the 1980s. She apparently insisted on re-use without autoclaving. So well funded were her activities, that single use equipment and autoclaving would have been easily obtainable for her hospices. Absent that isolation of HIV patients from other patients along with establishment of different sets of equipment used on the two different groups might have limited spread. She didn't do that either. As it was medical instruments were used indiscriminately after being washed with dish soap. The only conclusions that can be drawn are that 1) she drew no particular distinction between diseases effecting patients and had a pessimistic view of possible outcomes, to the extent that she saw her role as essentially managing the process of death or 2) that her amount of medical knowledge was both limited and she had failed to keep up with improvements in medicine, utilising clinical practices which had fallen behind by decades. In either instance it seems like almost anyone with a more pro-active view of care and up-to-date medical qualifications would likely have avoided the same degree of errors. Her preference for women who were (and are) primarily characterisable by the intensity of their faith in the order she founded, despite many of them lacking so much as a complete secondary education, let alone any relevant further education was also a problem. They were nuns, not nurses. Some were from the social class which sent their daughters to university, but many had an education equivalent to the average for Indian society at the time, not more than seven or eight years of formal schooling. Would you want someone with a primary school education providing your medical care ? She herself did complete high school, but her further education consisted of a few months of training at a convent in Ireland to become an *educational* missionary, during which getting up to speed in speaking English must have been a major focus. The number of people in India who can speak Albanian or Macedonian is vanishingly small, after all. Her many televised interviews provide an indication of how successful that was. Her spoken English remained heavily accented, halting and elementary over fifty years later and she resorted to the assistance of an interpreter during interviews throughout her life.

The assumption to my theory, I can't believe this, here we have a mother who no one wants to sleep with

Yup, and when she got ill got the best treatments available including enough pain killers to numb a horse, the woman took double standards to an entire new level.

@@RenataKleinRK Yup and yet the Catholic church made her one anyway, smdh.

​@@RenataKleinRKThe teachers fine get as much say over curriculum as you think. Administrators, school boards, state and federal agencies and politicians are all in the mix.

It seems most people aren't interested in history unless it's presented as a movie or other entertainment fashion.

Nobody gives a crap about Women's History. Even art historians acknowledge that Mary Cassatt and Frida Kahlo were inferior artists.

@@shawnycoffman History in film is usually fiction.

The new game: give your kids names AI will never be able to pronounce properly.

And then he married his affair partner.

That's not why someone suicides. 😂😂😂😂 There was something more going on inside her head and/or body.

That's not why someone suicides. 😂😂😂😂😂 There was something more going on inside her head/body.

@@TeddyB-hf3ks That's EXACTLY why she committed suicide. Heartbreak and betrayal all at once all the while she had cancer, and her one person she thought she could rely on betrays him? Yeah, that would drive someone to suicide, buddy. And the fact that you're laughing at the fact makes you pretty gross, by the way.

@@TeddyB-hf3ks Maybe the affair wasn’t the sole reason, but it definitely was a factor.

Not just show business.

politicians, activists, authors aren’t“show business” lol

I remember hearing of MLK's transgressions when they first established his birthday as a holiday.

I'm surprised anyone believes it. The same agents who claimed this nonsense were the ones sending him letter telling him to end it. COINTELPRO was a horrorshow.

@@MT_Madmaninteresting 😢

The one about him supporting the pastor's misconduct was never proven to be true.

I said the same thing!!

Oh just calm down and smell the coffee ☕ is it really that important ?..

​@@alancrisp1582Yes, it is.

Miles Davis, Jerry Lee Lewis & Morrissey respect the work not the acts

I don’t like the Beatles lol

I don't care about his personal life tbh, I love his music, especially his work with the beatles

@@cathyv3424 I used to hate the Beatles myself, most certainly because they’re just talked about so much. But nowadays, I actually appreciate their music (though “Maxwell’s Silver Hammer”still sucks!)

His elder son decided not to have children due to his childhood. He also was considerably closer to Paul than his own father.

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I wish. 🙃🫠🫠

Yeah, just look at all these 50+ year old kings in the past, that married teens

@@kevindagame and a majority were at least 14 or up

Odd though that in the US it is still legal in over 20 States to marry a minor age 12 with parental consent and in a few States it is low as 10 years with parental and judicial consent...

​@@MPM6785ChitChat, Japan is also notorious for treating minors in a romantic fashion. Eesh! 😬

@@MPM6785ChitChat Yeah, it’s messed up

Helen Keller included!

You have the capacity to be awful too.

@@dhenderson1810 I know

Were? Meaning they passed away?

@@dhenderson1810 I don't deny that, but I hope I never will be!

He treated Priscilla poorly, and married her when she was awfully young, and he had a temper that I'm glad I wasn't around, but I've never heard anything shocking about him.

No No No No he didn’t marry Priscilla till she was 21 and that’s that!!

That's why I like the interviews the American Academy of Television (?) does because they start with a few biographical basics then do an extensive interview about someone's work. I don't care who they married or if they are alcoholics. I want to know about their careers as actors, directors, etc.

Yep the common person has had a terrible time throughout history & its mostly undocumented.

Not even a crappy old computer from 'Dad'

Many of them didnt see it that way though, only now we do, and future Gens may not.

I have been saying this for the longest even made a video about this they don't want to listen but you right

He married Priscilla when she was 18... But yeah, they started having a relationship when she was 14

@@marinadeburgos8666 Priscilla was born in 1945. They married in 1967. She was 22 then.

No No No No No he did not Mary her at 14 that’s a lie he waited till she was old enough and married at 21 Then they did all that!!! It’s good to look at the facts!!!

@Mind-podcast it’s a lie he wasn’t he waited till she was 21. He wasn’t that bad I’m not gonna listen to people who cherry pick stuff it inconveniences me too much!!!

We all did, but instead they just meant people we already knew sucked

yeah. me too 😅

Same I thought the same thing

Me too. That's why I was hesitant to see the video at first! 😂

That's a lie! Hoover never wore red, blue was his color.

@@TXMEDRGR I guess dad was color blind!!

@@brendagroff8478 I've heard the dress story from other sources and I have no doubt it's true. Hoover was a weirdo.

He was just doing what he was ordered to do for the time. If continued after the military than yeah he would be bad then.

​@lilshawano1014 exactly. I mean, the Japanese were our enemies and killing Americans on American soil and all. Surprised watch MOJO didn't go after him, or any other celebrity at the time, for mocking Hitler.

But it contributed to the suffering of Japanese migrants and Japanese-American people within the US. Just because he was ordered doesn't excuse the suffering it contributed to.

@@IceMaidenxx3 What? I don't think FDR and Governor Warren were interning American citizens because Geisel drew funny pictures.

Dr. Seuss's greatest sin was his ridiculous penchant for making up words just to complete a poetic rhyme.

Of course, because americans dont want people to know how awful they really are

Even the old terminology was awful. "Indian removal." It's right up there with "occupation."

That is so sick that they're saying that. OMG.

🤔 Just as well you can not libel the dead ! ⚠..

Ok simp ​@@alancrisp1582

Well don’t get upset about it. Let people do whatever the fuck they want and mimd your own fucking business.

Yeah last Gens revolutionaries are this Gens reactionaries, its a cycle only a non-mediated understanding of history will prevent us repeating

@@RenataKleinRK I don't agree with that either

I agree.

What he do?

​@@kevindagame, Invented the atomic bomb. From what I remember, he wanted to use this weapon to save mankind, but it was used for destruction instead. In response, he also invented the apology video, and he surprisingly took account of his responsibilities.

@@kevindagamewatch the movie, there’s a lot of things I didn’t know about Either that or maybe find some history book at the library. Very interesting

That's how I feel about Polanski. Love his work but think he's an odious human.