Philosophy teacher challenges his class of twenty graduating seniors to choose which ten of them would take shelter underground and reboot the human race in the event of an apocalypse. Movie name = check first 10 seconds of the video.
If u are trapped in a bunker with only 10 ppl and have zero entertainment you gonna start wishing u had an author or a poet to write you tall tales or storys or rhyms to keep u ocupied... like my dudes the worst teacher ever lol
Well…no matter where you go on earth, no matter how destitute or desperate, there are people there who sing, dance, tell stories, and fall in love. People don’t have time or energy for luxuries during war and famine. People fall in love and write songs in time of war and famine. Art, creation, and love are intrinsic human qualities. We don’t live without them. We just exist. Also, when everyone is given the opportunity to learn and create, you optimize all of human potential. Because there is no saying where the greatest scientist live. They might be at a slum somewhere and they might have died never learned how to read and write. And people discover and create by accident and by playing and by indulging their curiosity. There is no logic to human ingenuity. You can give people tools and you can give people access to all the knowledgeable equally and optimize human potential that way and then wait for the right accidents. Like human beings, we are also a product of accidents and chaos. Random mutations and random discoveries. It’s kind of beautiful.
Reality. People only do stuff needed to live when they feel like it. How many people would go through the trouble of self sufficient, hunter gatherer life? After an apocalypse
Seriously; I’m going to school to be a zoologist but on the side I’m doing interior decorating and designing; many people are talented on both sides of the coin
@b2kzangelalwayz She clearly get away with cheating. Nothing bad happened to her. Her boyfriend didnt find out and her lover was so much a simp that he killed himself
When the D&D group of unfilfilled dreams get together to create a narrative that mechanics, engineer and science is useless, but poems, painting and theater is the shit that rocks..
that is the thing that is bothering me, making food, painting , writing poems and singing can be learnt by anyone based on practice but being an engineer, chemist, biologist,sugeon etc cannot be masterd by simple practice but rather requires formal training and lot of effort. it seems like the director shoehorning idea of arts are better than science and emotions are more important than logic, and most mindboggling thing is that if they are willing to commit sucide and die, they could have given the bunker to the other people who are willing to live, rather than throwing them away and commiting sucide, only thing i understood from the movie is that never give leadership to idiots who are not willing to see the logical problem ahead of them and will kill everyone including themselves
We are human beings and all of that. But in the end some ppl are better in some areas than others. You can be good in leadership and conclusive decisions and i can be on investiment areas and see if they worth the risk and the r.o.p (im working on it a few months so isnt a lie, im just not a senior lol)
Stupid. If it is make believe then what is the point. I was waiting for it to turn real. Like the choice would mean that these 10 were going to be saved from actual apocalypse. 😂
When I was in Junior High, we had an English project very similar to this. If I remember correctly, there were 16 characters in the scenario, but there was only room for 10 of them in the bunker. We were given descriptions of each of the characters (profession, personality, skills, age, health, etc.) and had to choose which 10 would get to survive in the bunker. We spent several days on the project and had to defend each of our choices - the reasons why we chose each person who lived and each person who died. I can't remember all the details, but I do remember that one of the characters was a despicable, middle-aged woman who was not only a terrible person, but who had no skills to help the group survive. However, she did have one thing going for her...she owned the bunker!
@@boxingelfis1499 - I remember we each had to do the assignment ourselves at home, and then decide later as a group in class. I let her stay because she owned the bunker, but the group kicked her out right away!
@@boxingelfis1499 - Lol, yes! When I did the assignment myself at home, I let her stay because she owned the bunker. But later when we decided as a group in class, she was the first one to go!
Depends on the description of the other characters but I probably would’ve kicked her out. Peoples personalities and who they are affect all aspects of life (the reason why people love or hate their jobs is because of the way their coworkers or customers/patrons interact with them) and if I had to live in a bunker for presumably a year/years with someone who made it miserable (set aside all the bunkers amenities), I’d go out of my way to get rid of said person
What the hell were with the 'rigged cards' tho, Didn't the teacher come up with this exercise and write them each a role to play in it. Why did they need hidden cards for the boyfriend...
She's actually smart, just also sleeping with the professor. If she wasn't smart, the class wouldn't respect her enough to let her pick survivors and would question how she does well enough to beat them all if her participation in class is only mediocre. She also outsmarts the professor. I think their attraction was probably intellectual and physical.
@@tias2705More like she wasn't smart, and on top of that the whole class is filled with idiots, or else they would have criticized the glaring flaws with how the thought experiment was set up.
This is such a dumb movie, it makes no sense, if it's a thought exercise then u have to share everything with the class outloud, so how do they secretly do things? And how can 1 persons narration suddenly decide the fate of others? Like the last kid????
yeah, in last exercise Petra is like, I choose the fashion designer as it boost mood etc. etc., then the guy with chemistry degree because of his perfect genes, then chooses james in the end and its like , well every life is equal so that's why I choose james, TF 😂😂😂😂
Yea the second he threatened to lower another pupils grade for the blind walking out everyone should of been like “welp he’s gonna be fired in the morning and this won’t matter, you guys wanna go to Burger King?”
Petra, who has been pretending to be a saint all along, turned out to be a cheater, and doesn't even seem guilty of it... I would be mad if this film was sensible.
The moral of the story is that, group choice won't matter if the one in power is selfish. So you might as well pick the choice that gives the biggest middle finger.
@@DrakeOola yeah. You’d think they could have tried to just guess the password or let the engineer/electrician reverse engineer how to open the door. If your bunker is good enough to survive the end of civilization then it should hopefully be well designed enough to have an emergency exit method or documentation.
If the stakes were higher for the characters it would've been better. Nothing happens if they die so they just choose the people that won't help survive to have fun. If there were stakes other than a bad grade then the people that could help survive would be chosen instead of the people that have no real value other than entertainment.
Unique I guess? Would’ve been better if these exercises were virtual reality, and felt real. And if they didn’t continue they would fail the class and die? Raise the stakes? Seemed so tense for no reason and knowing they’re just in a classroom perfectly safe with no reason to care about what happened about the bunker reality
I thought about why this movie fell short and you said it perfectly. There were no stakes, no danger and no consequence if they busted the thought experiments. The closest potential consequence they had was a failing grade, which is vague and has no bearing on what the characters will do after the movie's events end. And what the hell was the purpose of having the movie take place in Jakarta? This movie could've happened literally anywhere
@@araw_buwan Seems more like the actors wanted to take a free vacation so they went to a nice tropical location, tried to use their fame to have the trip covered for free then when they were denied a free pass they decided to film a movie at the last second to recoup the costs. Then they just used the footage from their vacation, added a couple cgi explosives and tried to make a story out of whatever they filmed. One of their friends had access to a classroom so they decided to make it 'a thought experiment'. All just an unplanned, last minute effort. Only way this even remotely makes sense as a movie... 💀
@@FalconCleancut I’ve never seen it. But from what I’ve heard it’s what everyone’s talking about. And what I said is like the squid game, the show doesn’t sound original at all.
Honestly, if it wasn't tainted by the professor letting his personal feelings run rampant (Seriously, what does he have against poets?!) I think that would have been a fascinating thought exercise.
It doesn't really make sense as a thought exercise either though. Something like this would inevitably have people discussing things outside of the "group" and everyone having imperfect information. You literally can't do something secretively and plan etc when you literally have to say it out loud so everyone hears. People never make decisions alone, and a classroom "thought exercise" would never be able to replicate the actual starting scenario correctly. This plot is also filled with "my narration says this happens because it fits what I want to have happened" instead of actual logical cause and effect. Professor locked out? Suddenly he has the only exit code to hold the group hostage even though that was never mentioned until literally that moment. Next sim attempt they literally try to metagame and claim that they know the code due to the previous failure(?????) and then all of a sudden this time there wasn't any bombs and the professor has been living nearby ready to shoot them on exit. This movie's writing is straight out of a smoke filled liberal arts college dorm that somehow just had to find a way to shoehorn a creepy sexual jealous overtone for some reason.
@@ShaggyRogers1 the idea of this exercise is to figure out your own values and priorities. As you go through the list of participants you are going to surround yourself with, you have to weigh each of them against another, and decide which traits are importance to you and why. The experiment doesn't have any other purpose or value, and it's not supposed to be a simulation of group dynamics or survival in a post-apocalyptic scenario. That's why I think the movie fell flat, its conclusion was dictated by nothing but the students being tired and pissed off at the professor. It' was not mentioned in the recap, but in the movie that star-girl made a show of changing their sitting arrangements, so that all the students ended up on one side, and the professor on the other. It wasn't we, the survivors, against them, the rejects, anymore. It was a big "f you" to the old dude. The whole movie was nothing but a long and boring break up scene between the girl and the old dude, with jealousy fits thrown in here and there.
This movie lost my interest on when the teacher said, I will lower your boyfriend grade. Only students in movies would stay silent during that. I myself would instantly go to the prinicipal, and I know my friends in the class if not the whole class that I had would follow. Because my class was like a family, tho I can't even imagine any teacher act like that irl anyway.
Umm, if you think teachers haven't acted this way or similar, then you don't pay much attention to news related to schools do ya? A teacher here in Nevada was recently fired for threatening to lower a students grade if he didn't show her his you know what (teacher was dumb enough to think that the zoom sessions weren't recorded), and sadly that wasn't an isolated incident. There were reports of this going on in Chicago, Detroit, also in Austin, LA, mainly cities or states where the teachers union is *strong* Hell the teacher here was on PAID LEAVE from October of 2020 up until July 2021, when the parents finally got the teacher fired (though we suspect she wasn't)
so acording to this movie, all homosexuals can get along and fall in love with each other, that's hilarious also, give one of the spots to a guy only because he's gay too? come on
Imagine the movie went, yo im straight and i wont have a partner, so they get a random woman into the group just so the guy can be satisfied. It’s so bad lol.
This movie can be seen as a philosophical debate to the question "what is necessary for survival?", or as a rant by a Professor jealous that the student he slept with refuses to break up with her boyfriend and is trying to engrain the idea that he has more value than him.
I think the movie is a combination of both of those concepts. The teacher believes because he has a job and financial stability (i.e. the exit code) he should have more value then a kid who lacks intelligence and financial stability (i.e. a florist). However, during the third thought experiment, she proves that the kids who lacked value would live happily together, and at the end of the day, that is all that really matters. The teacher cant accept this, because he believes value is more important then happiness (in order to preserve the human race). During the final scene, the teacher kills himself, because he cant accept that "value" is ultimately meaningless in comparison to "happiness".
I had a teacher in middle school that did an exercise where everyone in the class was stranded on a life raft and then people were slowly voted off. As a kid it was very fun but it caused a problem with parents not wanting the schools to teach morality.
If the previous simulations had unique conditions, even the bunker location changes then why does the exit code not change? And why do the characters retain memory and experience from previous Sims?
@@HmfcAK a gay man still can impregnate a woman, just as a gay woman can conceive with a man. What makes no sense however was that they alowed gay people to not participate in the repopulation effort. Personal preferences and freedoms give way to necessity when you are the last humans alive.
@@miloradowicz Not in my world it doesn’t. I’m gay, I don’t give a damn if it’s me and a man alone in the world as the last humans. Not having sex with him.
this is not a thought experiment, but a hypothetical situation. a thought experiment is something like schrödinger’s cat or the ship of theseus. a thought experiment has two distinctly different solutions to the same situation. the answer to this hypothetical is clear, you select those with the skills and profession that give the most benefit of survival, as the goal of this hypothetical situation is purely survival. the professor said it himself that they don’t have enough experience to find food, build shelter, irrigate water. instead these kids are happy dying of starvation while listening to music and looking at art.
Funny how they mentioned Plato's allegory of the cave but didn't mention the fact that Plato was no fan of artists. In his Republic he had all artists kicked out.
"soldier with perfect memory remembers the code from last ineration" thought experiment about reincarnation then. and if it was humans last chance for survival would it be so bad for the homosexual to reproduce?
Right? The line: "Soldier with perfect memory remembers the code from last iteration." is immediately followed by "James who is no longer a homosexual in this exercise." like wtf
1:03 Fun fact. Those towers are not cgi fantasy, but a real temple complex called Sewu built by Javanese Buddhists in the 8th century. Beautiful landmark.
Actually the towering temple is candi Prambanan not Sewu. But some of the scene did on the candi sewu, and some other in candi Plaosan. So it's some kind of mashup of 3 temple complex
I was one of 40 Survivalists who participated in a University “Survival Exercise” based on Statistical Probabilities and Historical Incidents. At the end of the Activity, based on Historical Lessons and Statistical Probabilities I was the Only Survivor.
basically they are saying that people of art are worth more and are the only ones who can feels joy because they can afford to waste all of their time on useless dogshit activities and pretend like it has value.
Yeah. Typical modern one dimensional view. One can be a electrician and play music. But that's the superiority complex of many people in academia that study stuff like literature, politics and philosophy etc.
Petra's affair with zimit made it from bad to worse...at the beginning it was good...felt like a mind game, then it became boring and the affair made it worse.
professor: "he is too good for you" to the girl that cheats on her boyfriend with him just cause she has excellent grades in HIS class, yea i kinda doubt that, i think he is too good for her
It's amazing how they only seem to choose pleasure for short-term and ignore all the long-term decision repopulating the planet granted that's are the only people alive at that point but leave it to some girl to pick all of the socially defective people that would not contribute in a meaningful way of sustaining life so far as entertaining life for a short while
No offense, but only ten people probably means long-term survival isn’t really on the table (especially not when, in this scenario, the cause of destruction is a nuclear apocalypse - even if you outlast the initial strike for a year, radiation affects EVERYTHING, and you probably won’t have much resources to rebuild ALL of society after that. At most, you’ll have a generation, maybe two if the kids reproduce REALLY young, and even then…)
This movie was way ahead of its time, the most 2021 movie ever! A fashion designer getting a spot in the bunker because can make you feel more confident over an electrician.
We had our English teacher run this experiment for us. Though we wrote our own cards I think and then picked one randomly. He also was he bunker builder but in the second one was also a psychopath. It was a cool lesson for sure and he played us the movie on the next lesson. I think that made the movie much more enjoyable - we already went through that. And no, our teacher wasn't having an affair with anyone (as far as I'm aware, I hope not, we were like 14).
This movie had a powerful message everyone here is overlooking. The moral is: *IF YOU'RE GOING TO STUDY ABROAD, MAKE SURE THE SCHOOL YOU APPLY TO IS ACTUALLY ACCREDITED* Accreditation status can be verified though the US Dept of Education or the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA). This will ensure that you are taught legitimate coursework by a valid licensed university professor and earn credits that will be accepted by other respected academic institutions and can be applied towards earning a degree that future employers will recognize. Failing to do so might land you in the dire straights depicted in this film: earning worthless fake diploma mill credits by forcing yourself to humor the incoherent ramblings of a (presumably) recovering alcoholic expatriate at the Jakarta campus of Trump University while enduring nightly sessions of getting you booty blown out by this same deadbeat dad who fled his job as an Uber driver in the United States in order to avoid paying child support. Trust me kids, there's a better way.
Here's the problem right, every time they're in a scenario I think to myself that they could metagame, they know teacher's an absolute piece of shit, and since it's a thought experiment nothing is actually happening
Yeah, you should not take this movie seriously. They accept the person with a bag of gold and the gay for being gay. Petra is right about one thing, their worth is all the same meaning that they are all equally worthless, including the writer and the person who funded this crap.
Cool, student get traditional Javanese building class with craving and Javanese roof style, Some Indonesian schools are very beautiful with local architecture I saw in Bali, the school gate used "candI Bentar". 2 ancient temple in Java Indonesia Candi Mendut and Prambanan, other top 10 like Candi Sewu, Candi Plaosan, Candi Pawon, Candi Penataran, Candi Jawi, Candi Ratu Boko, Candi Kalasan, Candi Sambisari, Candi Arjuna, Candi Sari, Candi Lumbung and thousand more in Java, Bali, Sumatra and Borneo(not included in peninsular Malaysia and Southernmost Thailand Candi Lembah bujang, Candi Yaring Pattani and Srivijayan temple of "Wat Kaeo in Chaiya, Surat Thani", part of empire In past)
Bullshit they could've forced the code. 4 characters, 12 possible choices, repeated characters would be 20736 attempts 5hours 45mins at 1 attempt a second, double if each attempt takes 2 seconds. Soldier with perfect memory can do the button input Bam, shitty made up scenario solved 1st try , movie ends at 1st scenario, professor eats shit xd
What do you mean by 12 choices? Aren't there 10 choices from 0-9? There are 5,040 combinations of four numbers when numbers are used only once. And repeated numbers are 10.000. Or did you calculate in the * and #?
The professor would have been the first to go for simply taking the poet's life. I don't trust murderers. Also having a bs code to make sure you are chosen is dumb.
True. I thought so similarly. It would make sense that the group collectively decide to get rid of the proffessor as he's a murder and killed the poet wthout consulting with the group first. As he can't be trusted and acts selfishlessly, I doubt he'd be able to survive in a group for a year.
An electrical engineer or an electronic engineer can break the door controls eventually. But if the situation is happening again for the first time, why do they think the exit code will be the same?
Fun fact about the beginning: on Polish universities there's 2--way 15 minutes rule. You can join class late if it's less than 15 minutes (some exams are exceptions) no matter if you've informed about it b4. Also students are obligated to wait for professor for 15 minutes after beginning (unless they were informed lesson is canceled). After 15 minutes and no sign from professor everybody can just make list of present students (usually left in Dean's office or simply lying near class) and go home. It's practiced to allow longer period if somebody inform he's late but generally you can't make it shorter unless you have valid reason for student not being able to join in middle
I actually like the idea.. But the reasoning, character, and basically everything else doesn't make much sense .. Or maybe they are just that bad at class.. Including the best student there
Threatens to lower boyfriends grade... Go to Dean of School and he's fired. He immedialy goes and gets a gun and shoots someone for his spot. Someone in his class would have realized this is a creepy power move and gone for another teacher/Dean. This TTeacher has no job going forward.
@@masonthunkwell9786 Teacher should have gone the role of being the bases AI for the exercise. So he has a reason to keep forcing things to go ccording to program.
I remember this from my college class, the characters are have different role ,also which 10 to pick and which is left behind we didn't finish it because of time , I didn't know this was so much complex
That's just like a question we had for our psychology test where of course all the gays, old people and people with no skills were left outside to die by me. The twist was you needed to let in a murderer because he had the key whereas my response was to murder him and take it. I take survival very seriously.
Expectation: *escape mundane life to watch fantastic things in a movie* Actual movie: *mundane people talk about fantastic things in their imagination*
yea but unrealistic The foundation of human is collaboration , so if A is lacking Hunting skills but know about Water filtration technique + B is lacking water but have great Hunting skills Both of them can't make out alive if not collaborate with each others that is the fundamental of why Human is on top of the world right now Emotion and "creative" are useful and needed but not without a basic foundation like above, you can't be happy if you don't have food to eat The movie assume the theory where the bunker has everything ,and it makes us to think they live "happily" and "fullest" but in reality they didn't live to fullest doesn't mean just live to enjoy, live is not enjoyable if you don't try your hardest
Lemme help you out: it's the teacher. Cheating at this stage in life isn't really that big a deal. Sleeping with your students is pretty serious. Plus the boyfriend seemed like a bit of a doofus.
