Yep...never more than a few turns for the 5.7L gas in my 1989 Sierra to fire right up. Hell in the time it took this thing to even start, my truck would already be getting warm inside 🤣
@@landontaylor7221 Maybe...but I on average get around 200,000 miles on each 5.7L and I could afford to replace it about 6 times before the cost would equal replacing any diesel engine *once* LOL
@@bowtiemountain Northern MN cold is -20 below and why we don't mess with diesels. To have a diesel working in cold conditions takes a tank heater, line heaters, and a at least 45 degree shop. Speaking of tractors or loaders for snow moving. Number 1 diesel is better not to run but goes ok and a neccesity. Maybe they still had summer diesel in this beast. I live this truck. Newer diesels are crazy expensive but are much more able to operate in cold than older stuff. There is no replacement for diesels , need them to move snow in the winter. But don't understand why someone would use one as a commuter. Generally when we started our tractor loader snowblower we would leave it running all day until we were all done with neighbors and families driveways and yards, but not starting and stopping rule diesels goes year round, especially big 15.0liter 6's and such
I worked at a Dodge dealership in Northern Alberta Canada for 14 years starting in 2001. This truck with good batteries and winter fuel should start at -25C no problem without being plugged in ( after cycling the grid heater once or twice )... and they’ll sound like this video when trying to start them at -35C without being plugged in ( running 0w40 engine oil, it is possible ). However if you started a Cummins at -30C or colder and left it idling for extended periods ( without idling it up to 1000-1200 rpm to get engine temps up ) it would often result in a few bent pushrods because the valves would literally start getting so full of carbon ( because the fuel wouldn’t burn properly ) that they would seize in the head and pushrods would bend... seen it happen often in cold weather with the 98.5 to 2002 ,24V Cummins. However if you ran 0W40 engine oil and plugged the block heater in you were Golden even at -45C 😁 ( just had to have a high idle solenoid or throttle cable ). Getting the 47RE to shift into overdrive at that temperature is another story 😂. As has been mentioned there’s either something wrong with this guys truck or fuel mods are causing hard start; because this thing should have been starting easily at this temperature... cheers from Northern Alberta!
Good info. I have a 06 Duramax as my daily driver. The wind chill factor is supposed to be -20 tomorrow. I haven't had a problem starting it yet. But theres a option for elevated idle (1200 rpm) for when it's cold. I never use it. I know you said you worked for Dodge but do you think I should turn it on?
Older diesels don’t like the cold too much. The introduction of common rail fuel injection systems have made it much easier for diesels to start in cold climates.
Exactly I work in fleet maintenance overnight shift for a school district 3am every morning in the winter is start up time it was hell getting those old buses going. 2010 switched to 6.7 Cummins buses. It's a breeze now..
Not at all, old diesel engines start up perfectly in any frost if the glow plugs work properly. I live in Siberia, frosts below 30 degrees happen often, it is desirable to have a liquid heater, such as Hydronic. But a huge plus of old diesel engines, relatively common rail, is much, much more reliable.
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I don't think it's a grid heater issue. Looks like he's got some freaking big ass injectors in there. That will certainly put the fire out when it's cold... That temp would be no problem for a stock Cummins.
j winn I have 100 horse injectors in mine in it starts perfectly fine. It would take like racing injectors and a lot of timing to make it start this hard! It actually makes it start easier with more fuel. I actually tried starting mine once without letting the grid heater run when it was like 0 and it struggled a little, so that theory doesn’t hold true + 95 % of comments say its the grid heater.
Kasey Armstrong ok then please prove us wrong with valid part numbers also your probably 7 cuz "stuiped" is the first time i have ever seen stupid spelled.
Kasey Armstrong if your gonna talk trash make sure you know what you’re talking about because if you look it up on GOOGLE it CLEARLY says Cummins use grid heaters instead of traditional glow plugs and you don’t even have to go on to a website b/c IT’S THE VERY FIRST THING THAT POPS UP. Prove me wrong on that I DARE you.
In VERY cold weather I always had to cycle my grid heaters at least twice. Just pounding on the starter like that is just killing it and your battery for nothing.
Should only take one cycle. Your grid heater is fubar. They're designed to start at sub zero. Also, cold start videos are pathetic. "Look at my vehicle doing what it was designed to do". Stop.
If your grid heater would be working, guaranteed it would have been running in 10 seconds! Mine always starts -0. in less than 10 sec. Replace it before next winter, and do another vid. of it starting this coming winter!!
Just hit 359,000 on my 2001. I commute 400 miles a week with it. I just replaced the injectors with factory Bosch units, adjusted the valves, and rebuilt the hx35. Runs like it has 20,000 miles.
A friend had a one ton Cummings - his remote starter had a setting on it for temperature. When it got to a certain temp the truck would fire up. It was programmable. I forget what temp he set it at, but he's let it run for 15 minutes. Great unit. Kept it from freezing up. It wasn't cheap$$, but neither are diesels.....
Max Starting your car is what wears on your car the most. Doing it in the cold is also a no no unless you need to. He tried to start his car and roll it over at least 15 times. So so sooooo bad for the engine.
DUDE! all that stress on the battery, starter, cables, and engine...all for a RU-vid video...smh. Yea it sounds good but shit. Plug it in it'll still smoke.
I think people like the smoke show I whould never do that to a diesel its not good for a diesel to not be plugged in in the cold if I ever get a diesel I will always plug it in in the cold
@@504daniel7 - Good thing I don't pull heavy loads for a living! A nice V8 to haul my 4 wheelers is all I need. Anything over 13k lbs I'll just call this guy and read a newspaper until he arrive 45 minutes later 😂🤣 I'll save a lot of money not having to buy starters, as well. Yes V8/No diesel.
DaQuavius Johnson buy starters?🤣 see your not familiar with diesels at all lol diesel starters are made for that because believe it or not manufactures realize it gets cold up north and in Canada so they put starters to handle this kinds stuff on their trucks so its not hurting it
@@504daniel7 - Oh wow, apparently I don't know anything about heavy duty starters according to this diesel expert. Interesting! So you're telling me the excessive amount of strain on this starter is not affecting it, whatsoever?
DaQuavius Johnson no no no no diesel expert? i dont remember writing that at all or saying that you dont know anything i said “your not familiar” and i never said it dosnt strain the starter.. i said their built for it and can handle it
Keep that key on crank until the engine is running or u will fry the starter prematurely. There is over rev protection if the engine spins faster than the crank speed, and these diesel starters are made for extended crank times of 1 minute or longer.. Make sure u keep a hot battery bank and replace them when they begin to falter in the cold. Weak batteries are your enemy because they create too much heat (due to low voltage) within the wiring and electronics, including the starter. As voltage drops, amps increase to try to make up for the loss of voltage, and this can melt insulation on wires, among other things. Many starting attempts will possibly wear the bendix and teeth on the starter and flywheel and then u will have a real problem.
Clarification: Continuous cranking (esp. when below freezing) after the engine begins to "hit" on one -two cylinders (but not able to run on it's own) generates heat within the cylinder head and block, while slightly decreasing the stress on the starter as it speeds up. Assuming no gelling of the fuel, the other cylinders will come "on-line" gradually as the high compression heats things up. If u let go of the key too early, this heat will be lost and it will take more cranking to make up for the loss (or more use of the glow plugs, which also eats up the battery power). Everytime the starter engages, it takes a phenomenal amount of amperage to get the diesel motor spinning again, esp. below freezing temps. Multiple short tries at cranking will discharge the batteries faster, and at a bad time when available stored energy is reduced up to 40% during freezing weather. All the more reason to keep up the maintenance on the fuel system (filters and H2O separator), and replace those batteries at the first sign of not holding a proper charge. Diesels need two to 21/2 times the battery power to spin when compared to gasoline engines, and they must crank for longer to generate heat from compression. Hot batteries, combined with an anti-gelling additive (such as the one by Lucas) will be your saving grace. About batteries: Every time these lead/acid batteries are discharged below 50%, it reduces their useful life. They will have only 20-40 discharges below 50% (depending on brand and quality) before a dead cell becomes a problem. They are made to deliver high bursts of energy for relatively short times and are not tolerant of being discharged too deeply. Several of my friends use two Optima AGM Yellow tops in their diesels, which have characteristics of both starting and deep-cycle batteries. They are expensive as h**l, but last longer and are sturdy and don't leak. Anybody who owns a diesel vehicle in a cold climate should be prepared financially to replace the batteries every 3-4 years, if need be (if not sooner).
So for all the people complaining that why didn’t the poor guy just plug in instead of cold starting the problem with that is early 2000’s especially Cummins not mention he’s on a 24 velve standard you can tell by the way he’s gassing her with those on and off puffs of smoke but point being back in that day of production diesel didn’t have head warmer plug ins like how they have universal year plug in now just saying
I’ll never understand people’s love for diesels. I understand the need for it in work trucks. But this one looks like a daily driver...He could’ve gotten by with a 1500 with the 5.9 Magnum and 2inch lift kit and it looks exactly the same and it stars in all kinds weather.
Grid heater bud. Not glow plugs but just plug her in be easier my 24v starts every time let it sit whole weekend -30 plugged in starts right up. Smoke cigarettes!
I have a solution for any diesel engine out there if you really need to get it going be a man forget the glow plugs forget the grid heater disconnect that shit spray a very small amount of ether and spin that bitch over If you don't disconnect your pre-warming systems such as glow plugs and or grid heaters or anything else that's an intake you'll have an explosion that is not in the combustion chamber AKA backfire I understand that those systems are supposed to help the diesel engine start-up but if you change injectors and other things out of factory parameters it's going to start like this pile of shit
Diesel gels when cold. And the guy saying it literally damages anything must have never heard of the trucks on northslope alaska that only get shut off once a week/month for oil changes lol. The cold is no bueno starting like this. Block heaterS oil pan heater and a space heater going for a half hour without a garage.
these as* holes and theirs junks!!! get a new diesel it doesn't matter if cold or freezing... it will start! its called technology..... junk that trash... from 20years ago... bums......!
You got some real issues because my 03 6 liter power stroke, has a head gasket leak and starts right up, every time in zero degree weather lol. You got some serious issues with that truck.
The good ole 12 valve starting in that weather starts easy. If you got a after market lift pump you just push the pedal 1/4 throttle down and hold there for about 5-6 seconds after it starts. Instant start for me every time.
You must either have this thing jacked up on tunes with big injectors and not have the grid heater working or there’s a serious fuel pressure/ fuel prime issue
Modern diesel fuel has additives that prevent jelling, just like modern engine oil. Except for warming up the cab when you get in, letting your engine warm up isn't needed. It also helps to have a heated garage.
TheBudgetGunCollector Let me know when your little gasser can pull a trailer up a grade without dropping 3 gears and running 40mph at 5000rpm. Ill see you at the top while im in 6th gear turning 1500rpm at 65mph.......
Hi thank you for this amazing sound . You are lucky to have these cars ….if you are fetish of coldstart like me !. Here in France, Diesel became so usual that they are as easy to start as injection modern standard cars; what a pity !
