2005 Lexus SC 430 in the Snow - POV Michelin Cross Climate 2 Driving Impressions

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Tires: P245/40R18 Michelin CrossClimate 2
Engine: 4.3 L V8,
300 hp at 5600 rpm, 325 lb-ft torque at 3400 rpm
5-Speed Automatic Transmission, RWD
Wheel size: 18″ diameter, 8″ width
MPG: 18 city / 23 highway
Curb weight: 3,840 lbs
Dimensions: 178″ L x 72″ W x 53″ H
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Комментарии : 93

@eabdic1 7 месяцев назад

Topher + Snow Driving = Popcorn time.

@danielchristopherdc 6 месяцев назад

Timeless and beautiful the SC430 is.

@AWordFromMrJones 14 дней назад

Amazing POV for the Lexus SC430. I was wondering how well these cars handled in the snow because owners on FB Group mentioned they are GREAT all season vehicles. There were even a few owners whom mentioned they use their SC430 for long distance traveling as similar to using a Corvette and the SC430 is much comfortable ride. I'm interested seeing how my SC430 will perform once I get some winter tires. Appreciate the content 💯

@thevacdude 7 месяцев назад

I love these SC430's, so cool.

@RS3NDIT 7 месяцев назад

The most satisfying part of the beginning is seeing how light the steering is. I love that so much. The second most satisfying thing is the amount of wood in this interior! I miss wood, like PROPER wood in interiors - our family car for the longest time was a 2006 A6 with dark, amber-y wood and I've loved wood in interiors ever since. Not this horrid, creaky, plasticy-feeling stuff you get nowadays, but proper, glossy wood. Some say it's an old man thing but I miss it and I'm 22. sidenote: 245/40/18 is perfect for comfort. I've got that setup on my RS3 currently. Want a little more performance though and I really just run all-seasons year round so I'm planning on going 265/35 for my next set.

@kuruptzZz 7 месяцев назад

Damn, now this is a capable vehicle

@John.Christopher 7 месяцев назад

What a BEAUTIFUL car inside and out! Lexus!

@yankeexpress 7 месяцев назад

The V8 engines in these Lexi are excellent…smooth, powerful, reliable and they sound awesome at full pedal.

@MacTX 7 месяцев назад

For a design that's over 2 decades old, still looks good. A lot of the old 90's, early 2000's Lexus car designs didn't age well.

@rightlanehog3151 7 месяцев назад

Chris, I did a few silly things in the snow with my mother's cars when I was young too but I did not record them and share them with the world. 😉 On a serious note, I drove RWD cars exclusively for nearly 20 years. It is remarkable how balanced some were while others never seemed to get a grip in winter conditions. My only concern with these Michelin Cross Climate tires is that they may have too much tread in the summer and burn too much gas as a result.

@mmlabrat8905 7 месяцев назад

GOATclimate 2!! Have had them on my NC2 for almost 3 years now through all Michigan seasons. You should do a drive in heavy rain, you can literally feel the car cut through puddles of water!

@pioteko 7 месяцев назад

Arent these All-Weathers not All-Seasons though? My Nokian WRG4s have also been better than most peoples winters it seems. Never getting dedicated sets again just always going to rock triple peak rated All Weathers

@mmlabrat8905 7 месяцев назад

These are all season tires.

@inangekah2090 7 месяцев назад

They're All-weather tires

@dexstrat9229 7 месяцев назад

topher is one of the only youtubers im subbed to where i click an every video and like instantly. just good vibes, down to earth commentary and car content. glad to support the channel so the car companies keep supporting it as well

@jaxontanner9822 7 месяцев назад

for people that don't have a winter set of wheels/tires this really seems to be the way to go!

@leonardonegri2851 7 месяцев назад

I love those tires, they get a bit squishy in the hot Italian summer (after hard driving), but they're perfect for the winter if you can't afford to change tires every season

@THEFIRE360 7 месяцев назад

and as a bonus, I love the tread pattern in the cross climate 2's

@DeeTofa 7 месяцев назад

I turn my wheels a bit when parked so I can stare at that tread pattern 😂

@cdgarcia453 7 месяцев назад

A nice all weather tire. Thank you for another snow driving video.

@OmarZ77 7 месяцев назад

Only heard great things about the CrossClimate 2s! I recently installed their competition from Bridgestone, the Weatherpeaks, and gotta say they've been super impressive in the deep snows of Quebec!

@Mr.KaganbYaltrk 7 месяцев назад

Sounds are so relaxing 😶‍🌫️

@DeeTofa 7 месяцев назад

best all season tires! I've had mine for three years and have no complaints.

@ashleylawrence3691 Месяц назад

How are they in the summer? Run smooth ? MPG see a dip?

@MishtahPoog 7 месяцев назад

I love these tire review videos in real-life driving conditions. Please do more, if you can! I was looking at maybe getting these Cross Climate 2s as my next tire, so seeing other Grand-Touring All-Season tires and Ultra-High Performance All-Season tires driven spirirtedly in snow would be awesome.

@Tony-kn9vt 7 месяцев назад

You are brave! Mine does not see the snow! I don't even like it being in the rain.

@DickNut День назад

Getting these on my sc430 im excited for winter driving.

@kamilb8232 7 месяцев назад

Love this tire. Currently on my wife's car replacing the shitty factory/OEM eco tires. We live in Michigan and she doesn't even miss AWD anymore because these tires offer so much grip. I had the first gen of the CrossClimates on my G35x ages ago. It was an absolute tank on the roads. Passing people in lanes that were snow or slush covered that people were afraid to drive on. I still recommend a dedicated summer/winter combo for a performance vehicle. But for a regular daily driver this is truly a one tire can just buy and not deal with wheel/tire swapping.

@PaulsPlace 7 месяцев назад

Definitely keep us updated on how these perform in the dry. Thinking about putting these on my vehicles, curious with the tread pattern how road noise is in the highway.

@rightlanehog3151 7 месяцев назад

I recommend Michelin Defenders for your Crown Victoria based on the assumption you will only drive it in the summer.

@PaulsPlace 7 месяцев назад

@@rightlanehog3151 I love that you remembered 😂 I’m definitely considering it.

@KittRembo 7 месяцев назад

Not much snow here in NC but lots of rain and I have these on my Crosstrek and they are really good in the rain as well!

@fogbound4556 7 месяцев назад

I have an 09 Es350, and my tires are on their way out. They probably got 10k left. I've done some researching and the cross climate 2s have probably stolen my heart with the tread design, the good reviews, and the solid name as I believe that Michelin is the best brand for luxury cars. The Topher has only cemented this more with this review.

@jfd863 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for another 'Topher Drives Snow' video, especially with the tire review too. I wish you could drive Hankook Kinergy 4S2 for comparison to the Michelins.

@Slythey 7 месяцев назад

Such a great looking car.

@aspecreviews 7 месяцев назад

7:46 the VDIM beeper makes sense as (especially newer versions) are so smooth you don't even notice a loss of control, but I can fully see that becoming potentially traumatizing for situations where VDIM CAN'T save you. For example, an "understeered-off-the-road" crash where the last thing you hear is the beeper and the modulator dithering the brakes 100x a second to try to save it... but it's just BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP-CRUNCH! Then afterwards, even if VDIM "beeped" once, one might think "OH MY GOD I'M GONNA CRASH" lol

@1MountainLife 3 месяца назад

Friend of mine curbed his Taco while I was a passenger and this was the last thing I heard before impact. Hate it now lol

@TheBigEZ7 7 месяцев назад

Timeless car

@samkrahn2867 7 месяцев назад

I drive a Ford Fiesta ST and live in Detroit. I run Michelin X Ice in the winter, but with how mild and how little snow we’ve been getting in recent years, it makes me wonder if these cross climates would be the better option in a cold and mostly dry winter climate. Winter tires just often feel like overkill when I’m driving on mainly dry roads and an option like this-that’s much better to drive than X Ice-exists.

@g60corrado91 7 месяцев назад

I’ve had the same thoughts myself, especially with the little amount I drive now. I’ve got WS90’s on my GTI and the last couple of Chicago suburb winters have been pretty mild with the exception of a couple of noteworthy storms. I’ve ran winter tires since 2007 and swear by them in the snow and ice, but now that tire technology is so good, tires like the CC2’s and WeatherPeaks get me thinking.

@chowchow3335 7 месяцев назад

the cross climate 2 is truly amazing. I have them on my TSX Wagon, really really good traction in snow, quite quiet in dry too. very satisfied!!!

@chowchow3335 7 месяцев назад

I've also heard that they last a long long time. I came from pilot sport AS, the only thing I am missing is better steering feel, other than that, cross climate 2 is the best all weather tires

@blue-tb2fd Месяц назад

I've seen some comments on videos about the CC2s where people get 80 to 100k out of them with regular rotations. I don't expect that much but they do seem to last a long, long time.

@ryanb8736 7 месяцев назад

Awesome car and awesome tires.

@MacTX 7 месяцев назад

The only thing I don't like about the SC430 is they didn't update it to keyless ignition when they did the 2006 refresh. This would feel more modern now if it had it.

@danielchristopherdc 6 месяцев назад

You can do an aftermarket one that looks like factory push button start

@I.LikeCars 7 месяцев назад

Wow! How do you folks in these snowy states even know where the road is when it’s like this? I’m amazed and humbled watching you navigate that.

@Newyen6MT 7 месяцев назад

The CC2 are definitely more of a winter oriented all weather tire. I am currently running Nokian WRG4 all weather tires and they are amazing in the snow. Nokian just released new Remedy WRG5s which should even be better.

@Banom7a 7 месяцев назад

i got those for my mild climate and being in an apartment (no space for dedicated tire; it been hitting 65 in jan and feb far too often), it perform really admirably on wet and snow. Although i found on ice side-to-side its a bit eh but otherwise it's definitely great tire for 95% of the condition.

@MysTicBiGz 7 месяцев назад

Need the top down bro, test the heat bubble

@realjsm 7 месяцев назад

Very impressive for a rear wheel drive car in snow.

@joespittle1 7 месяцев назад

We have CrossClimate 2's on our '18 XC90. Excellent tires, in everything condition we've put them through. Would be interesting to see how they compare to PSAS 4's

@darknight160 7 месяцев назад

Think its possible to swap open rear diff in SC with newer limited slip diff from later gen isf or rcf/ Is500?

@schryvel 7 месяцев назад

How is braking compared to something like a blizzak WS90?

@Wasabi9111 7 месяцев назад

I have these on most of my cars. Turning, stopping and going up inclines in snow are no where close to blizzaks. But much better than stock oem all season tires. But for 99% of the year when there’s no snow, cc are much better.

@shamalabadingdong 7 месяцев назад

It's expected that these tires would perform better than the dws06+ in the snow. The dws is basically the highest tier of performance for an all season tire. The cross climates are all weather tires, and even in their category they are exceptional in the snow. The dws will be significantly better and sportier in the dry and wet than the cc2. The cc2's will be way sportier than a winter tire in the dry and wet though. I'm personally going to be moving from a ps4s + performance winter setup to a 200tw (summer daily) and a cross climate 2 for winter, due to how good these are in the shoulder months

@ytj22 7 месяцев назад

A lot of people believe this is one of Lexus' all time best models. But it's a heavy lump that wasn't that great at anything in particular except maybe reliability.

@85CEKR 7 месяцев назад

Have you ever driven one? I personally never have but I've driven enough cars over the years to know that what's on paper and what an online or magazine reviewer says often mean nothing. The truly great cars are the ones that don't do anything amazing but they do everything well. This car seems like one of those.

@chaseteter 7 месяцев назад

In stock spec they are very odd. The wheel base is 7 inches shorter than my gs400 and yet it’s 100lbs heavier. I’ve seen some websites selling them converted to 2jzgte engines and that is interesting.

@bradyb9929 7 месяцев назад

It’s still driven great 20 years later. It’s an all timer car.

@chaseteter 7 месяцев назад

@@bradyb9929 That’s how I feel about my GS. It’s 23 years old and I never sell that or my manual 4Runner. Forever cars.

@MS-mr4zm 7 месяцев назад

This thing sucks

@Will-ue4gb 7 месяцев назад

Love Lexus, have a 2000 ls400 but the outside of the car does look goofy, the interior is nice af thoe for a 05. Exterior really kills it, at least it has a V8

@xclear1874 7 месяцев назад

Man, the SC430 has been one of my favorite cars since I got into cars! It really is the underdog after it was unfairly given the title of the "Worst Car in the History of the World" by Top Gear back in the day. Last year I was SO close to buying one, but I ended up being swayed towards a 986 Porsche Boxster which don't get me wrong I LOVE my Boxster and it's an awesome daily, but something about the interior and just driving experience of a Lexus of this generation man. You can't beat it! Hmmmmmm maybe I look into an SC430 again 🤔🤔🤔

@danielchristopherdc 6 месяцев назад

Wow that’s crazy, I’ve actually considered trading my SC430 for an 05/06 Boxster s but every time I think of it I just can’t get rid of the SC

@xclear1874 6 месяцев назад

@@danielchristopherdc Don't get me wrong man the Boxster S is a GREAT car and the 987? Can't go wrong with it. The only thing you'll have to understand is it's WAYYYY different than an SC430. It's a lot more harsh of a drive, it's a legit sports car, and it feels way quicker than an SC. If you want to I'd say go right ahead they're awesome cars! The only thing to REALLY keep in mind, is that even though it is older, Porsche parts/labor will end up biting you in the rear. Even though my Boxster is 25 years old, even when parts aren't expensive, some jobs that are just simple on a Lexus take like twice as long on the Boxster. Either car, a great choice however!

@danielchristopherdc 6 месяцев назад

I’m actually seriously looking at a cls55 AMG. Supercharged 5.4l v8 almost 500hp and over 500tq out of the box. Also researched the motor and transmission are bulletproof. Also a lot of room to make more power with a pulley and tune

@dawnpoint 7 месяцев назад

First time I’ve ever heard of a Lexus having seat heaters better than “sufficient.” My GS430 seat heaters are… sufficient.

@nickgraham6807 7 месяцев назад

Combine good tires with a smart driver and you can pretty much drive anything in the winter

@tomycont 6 месяцев назад

Would have you put those tires on a normal BRZ (not your modified one 😂)?

@gkhan05 7 месяцев назад

when you swapping in the manual?

@freshwhite335 7 месяцев назад

Why would you drive that minter in the snow???

@illusion2946 7 месяцев назад

Day 1 of asking the topher to buy another 850r, miss the content so much

@يونساحمد-ص1و 7 месяцев назад

When you will try Jetta sport 2024 .

@ishanjoshi1350 7 месяцев назад

Can you teach me to drive like you in the snow ? I'll pay you (I'm only half kidding here)

@kelsey809 7 месяцев назад

😊👍

@Jswag2929 7 месяцев назад

3.8k lbs from that lil thing

@easy7137 7 месяцев назад

@mransari2553 7 месяцев назад

I never forget Clarkson and May choosing this car as the worst car ever made...

@seangarcia2171 7 месяцев назад

Lol they did????

@danielchristopherdc 6 месяцев назад

They were absolutely wrong which is what I always remember about that lol

@blubbershoot7030 7 месяцев назад

first asf

@MrWuggles 7 месяцев назад

Oh look it’s the worst car in the world

@wr1ght939 7 месяцев назад

Still don’t get how they came to that conclusion.

@MrWuggles 7 месяцев назад

@@wr1ght939 I think they were pretty clear. They wanted to find a car that was bad, but not cheap, and made by a company that had demonstrated it was capable of better things. Most agree the LFA is one of the best cars ever made, the SC was indeed, not cheap, and overhyped by Lexus.

@danielchristopherdc 6 месяцев назад

Only according to an old, biased bloke that was probably paid by a German or British manufacturer to say that lol