The only features I want are power windows, locks, AC, Bluetooth stereo and backup camera. That’s luxury to me. The rest is fluff. I don’t want to drive the equivalent of an iPad on wheels.
I have come to appreciate Carplay as well. I can do without power windows or locks but that hasn't been an option for decades. I hate out-of-lane and speed-limit alarms, but I think collision detection is a plus. I'm willing to pay for that, especially in a car that I give to my children. Sad-to-say but that saved my butt once.
It's not a perception though it's fact. Air quality is going down and the reliability is going down due to finally coming into the 21st century with everyone else 🙄
Quality of any vehicle depends how you maintain and care for it. Always makes me laugh when anyone thinks one I more reliable than the other. At this point they all have more computers in them than anything so of course computers and electronics being more prone to failure means more issues overall. Simple.
I currently drive a 1991 Honda Civic that has ZERO bells and whistles. I keep my car in mint condition, but if I needed to buy a new one EXACTLY like the one I have (No power windows, doorlocks, nothing!) I would buy such a car in a HEARTBEAT!
my dad owned a '91 Civic DX Sedan from 1995-2018, had to get rid of it because the fuel tank was leaking and it was too expensive to fix. I'm glad I had the opportunity to drive it when I was first learning how to drive :) rolldown windows, manual door locks, GLASS headlight lenses! It only had ~145K miles when we got rid of it :/ if the fuel tank wasn't an issue it could've easily lasted until now
I have an old 2011 Nissan NP300 made in Mexico. No airbags,no power windows, no electric mirrors, no ABS and a manual trans. In all this years only changed a front left hand bulb and two 12 volt batterys. Two transmission and dif oil changes and engine oil and filters.,and four tyres and struts Ohh I forget one spark plugs set and front disc and brake pads. All maintenance made in my back yard. She works for me.
Bringing your Toyota to the dealer for maintenance is another reason owners don't keep up with maintenance. The prices they charge and the upsells are *ridiculous.* ! ! ! !
Absolutely! Their prices are ridiculous. They wanted 14k to replace the motor in my 07 tundra. That was a used motor with over 100k miles and only 1 year warranty. My bmw 4 series is cheaper to maintain. Out of curiosity I asked what it would cost to replace the motor in my 4 series. The dealer said 10-11k 3 year warranty. That for a motor with 10-25k on it.
It depends what it is and the reasons behind it. I bring mine to the dealer for oil change for instance as I’m always on the go but also down the road if I decide to sell that vehicle privately then it will be an easy sell to the next owner as the dealership will have all records.
Toyota dealerships are the worst. I visited two in my area (Virginia Beach, VA area); they were both arrogant and rude. I have excellent credit and I was ready to buy with a decent cash down payment. Not trying to brag, but I'm the definition of a good customer. One sales manager got angry with me when I refused to pay a markup. They both felt entitled to my business. I bought a Mazda instead of a Toyota.
I had to study for about 3 weeks watching a bunch of youtube videos on how to handle the sellers. It's exhausting to buy a car from a dealer, for no reason smh.
I'm in central VA and Toyota dealers are just as bad through the Shenandoah Valley. Lots full of vehicles, but they won't budge from their inflated prices. I've NEVER dealt with a salesmen that knew more about the model than I did. All they do is add frustration and cost to the purchase experience. The end of the traditional dealership network model can't come soon enough.
Just hope you didn’t buy a CX90 with its infamous cylinder head coolant issues that Mazda barely addresses… and they might send you a DMCA claim if you try to fix it yourself, or get it fixed at a non-Mazda dealership because that shows “a lack of loyalty” 😂
I put 488K miles on my 78 Corolla. I bought it in 83 for my college car. It had 70K miles on it when I bought it. After achieving my PhD, I kept driving it. I decided to see how long it would last. It died in 02, so I replaced it with a new Camry . I drove my Camry until my needs changed in 11 so I bought a new RAV 4WD Limited with the 3.5L V6. I drove it until 2/29/24 when I was ready to replace our worn out pickup. We sold our pickup and bought a “leftover” 23 Tacoma TRD Off Road, double cab, 6’ bed, TRD Performance exhaust with the Premium and Technology pkgs. we then sold my RAV. I’m almost 60 years old, retired and plan on driving my 23 TRD until I die. I’ve been driving for 40+ years and have had to own only 4 daily drivers and they’ve all been Toyota’s. They’ve never let me down. I wish that Toyota would bring back the Hilux 22RE 4cyl 5spd regular cab long bed 4WD pickup with hand crank windows, manual locks, A/C and cruise control and allowed them in America. If they brought that back, I’d sell my 23 TRD in a heartbeat. It would have been a Great replacement for my worn out 83 Hilux with over 400K miles. That was an Awesome little light duty truck for work around our property and for getting firewood in the mountains. I looked at a used 23 SR5 access cab 2.7L 4cyl, but it had the automatic transmission and only 159 horsepower, so it was too gutless for my needs.
When I compare this video to the Car Care Nut's oldest video, '2007-2009 Toyota Camry Buying Guide' from four years ago, I am amazed at how conscientiously this channel has embraced Toyota's 'Kaizen' philosophy. 'We believe in the natural ability of people to change things for the better. Every improvement, regardless of size, is valuable. Encouraging both incremental and breakthrough innovative thinking, we seek to evolve with Kaizen, never accepting the status quo.' AMD is constantly evolving both his shop and this channel while maintaining the high quality that made us all fans. AMD and Sreten of M539 Restorations are two non-native English speakers who produce informative videos that can hold the attention of people who have no mechanical inclination at all. It's all about their passion for cars and attention to detail. RU-vid should be showering them both with cash!
I'm also a retired mechanic and we were happy with everything manual because that's what we we had and were offered at the dealer. As people became lazy and spoiled with electronics, everything has turned into what we have today. Imagine today, having to use a manual choke to start a cold engine or watching a movie on a black and white TV that we had to get off of our lazy ass's to change the channel or adjust the antenna so we could watch the best parts of the movie? People today would drop dead from the shock.
I currently own 2 Toyotas and my last 2 cars were Toyotas. I would absolutely buy a car styled like the 1995 Tercel. I've been chasing that dream since someone hit it in 2004 and totaled it. Id also appreciate a base model Celica as I loved that design. Yes, please bring back less gizmos and more basic cars that, to me, were fun to drive and own.
My first car was a 92 Tercel. The only feature you could get was AC and a 3 speed auto. Both me and my sister had Tercels. Drove them for years with 0 repairs. We sold them both for more than what we paid for them and both had over 350k miles when we sold them. We bought them at 200k mile mark.
He is spot on regarding the fact that people neglect the maintenance part . I went to check the used car market to help a friend buying a compact car. The percentage of 10 year old cars who were maintained according To the manufacturer schedule was maybe around 10% at best. And we are not talking about fluid changes which a lot of manufacturers do not require anymore such as ATF or cooling fluid. Hardly anybody takes care of that.
You also have to pay attention to where the car was located. I check the reports to see where it was maintained. If it has maintenance records in New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore or Washington DC, I wouldn’t buy it because those cars will have problems because of the terrible road conditions. Those cars get beat up because many drivers drive like the roads are smooth when they aren’t. I think it’s better to buy new and take better care of it and keeping it for a long time. It really doesn’t take long to damage vehicles out here if you’re not careful how you drive it.
Just bought a new Camry, the guy told me, see you in 10 thousand miles for your first complimentary oil change. I told him I had already purchased 15 quarts of 0W-8 and a case of filters and would be doing the first oil change at around 1000 miles. I recently changed ALL fluids in my 03 Tundra as well as valve cover gaskets that do tend to leak around 200 thousand or so. CCN hit it on the head when he said you Must keep up maintenance and fix things that pop up. Toyota isn’t the only company raising their prices though, could you imagine paying over a hundred grand for a bucket of bolts like an F-150?
Right on!!! Most automakers went on a champagne binge during the chip shortage and now the hangover is setting in as they watch inventory pile up. .As AMD said, the wayward dealerships are the biggest problem Toyota Motor Corporation faces today.
Very well spoken, I agree with your point of view. You come with a humble, experienced, grounded view, that is why your channel has grown as fast as it has
Bought a 2021 corolla (which had only 7500km on it) in may. We drove it from Denmark to Croatia and back, and later From Denmark to Italy. I am a musician and i put 50000km on my car a year. My last two cars were Yaris. The Corolla is the nicest car i’ve ever had. Adaptive cruisecontrol is great to have. Carplay too. The rest (keyless entry, powered hatch etc) i could live without. One feature i’ve noticed in borth my two Yaris and my Corolla is that Toyota actually puts decent speakers in them. Probably my most important feature :-)
I frequent a book store near my house. There’s a very nice older lady that always likes to talk. Her Corolla le is around 2005 I think. She drives it every day and is the original owner. It has a hair over 400,000 miles 😮. She has had the same mechanic shop for over 25 years do any work needed. She did say it uses a little coolant these days but she knows about it and to check it. Head gasket staring to go. But its just getting into the cylinder so she just drives and adds 😅 it’s an automatic also.
I am one of the nobodies that bought the 2000 Tundra. I kept it for 17 years, and handed it down to my teenage daughters as their first vehicle. After 17 years and 150,000 miles, I sold it for 25% of what I paid for it. I loved that truck. Nice fireside chat AMD.
Only 150k in 17 years? As long as the frame isnt gone and you changed the transmission fluid every 50k miles it would easily go to 300k, I see them all the time.
Part of that is the market for pickups. I bought a new 2002 Mazda B3000 Dual Sport pickup and eventually handed it down to my son.He drove it to 205,000 miles and sold it in 2023 for almost 25 percent of what I paid for it as well.
@@xscorpx Yeah, I don’t put many miles on. My 06 Nissan Titan has just less than 80K on it. My wife’s 03 Sequoia has just over 200K on it. She drives a little more than I do. We keep them well maintained.
@@jonschlegel2961this is the reason I just bought a new 2023 Limited. I could not find 4Runner in good condition at a reasonable price. I did not want a turbo 4 and pay another 10K for the new generation 4Runner
I'm so sick and tired of listening people repeating how their old toyota have 20000 miles, did you even listen to what he just said, you are giving wrong perception that modern toyotas are going to last that long without any issues
I have a 2007 Corolla LE, bought new, now at 127,000 miles. Good car. It runs great and was “high end” for its model at the time. It even has a six CD changer that works fine, and it’s used a lot! It’s all the car I need with power steering/brakes/windows, cold AC, hot heat, comfortable seats, etc, and most importantly, it’s reliable. ‘Nuff said.
Back in the day, I noticed the difference in quality between my grandpa's 1984 Toyota Cressida Station Wagon and his 1977 Toyota Corona Station Wagon (the Corona was practically immortal--weekend trips back and forth from the hardware store to the mountains in Puerto Rico). Toyota needs to clamp on dealer pricing, like you said.
As a retired mechanic I can say you make SO MANY valid points. If Toyota listens to opinions on social media I bet this is one of the first places they check out. If they haven't offered you a job in management THEY SHOULD ! ( I think you love what you do and would politely decline though 😁) Blessings to you and your family.
This law that cars can only be sold by dealerships needs to be removed. It's created a complacent arrogant culture amongst many dealerships that they can do whatever and nobody can do much about it.
I’ve owned Toyota exclusively since 1976, and I just retired from a Japanese company after a 45 year career. Many changes occur as senior management leaves due to a mandatory age 60 retirement. Old school quality focus was redirected to ROI.
I bought a 2023 Camry that i bought new with 3 total miles on it. It has been a dream to drive, with no issues at all. I am not a driver thats easy on his cars, but the Camry stands up to it. It drives exactly the same as new...BTW...Im at 32k miles...
My wife drove her Camry for 18 years. I drove my Camry for 9 years when my needs changed in 11. I then bought a new Rav 4WD Limited with the 3.5L V6. I now drive a 23 Tacoma TRD Off Road, double cab, 6’ bed with the Premium and Technology pkgs. I’ll drive it until I die and I’m quite sure that my wife will use it to plow the 5-7 feet of snow off our private road until she too passes away.
I hope Toyota would get back to basics. My husband and I bought 2 Corolla sport in 2005. They’re still running. My daughter has one and my son has the other. Both are pushing 300 ,000 miles and run great. Forget the gimmicks Toyota. Back to basics. Each car cost around 13,000 dollars. I now own a 2015 and it’s very reliable. I want to get a new Corolla but am not sure the reliability will be as high. I love Toyota !!!! PS. We have always changed the fluids and did not neglect our cars.
You Are right: the success motto of the future is "back to the basics". Doesn't mean that we want a model without power steering, we want models without gimmicks and tablets in the car!
Outstanding information. I'm an old hot rod guy from the 60's and I never bought into this long oil changes and coolant BS. So many oil companies and YT mechanic's push this crap. I believe most people should not own a turbo charged engine because you cannot just drive these things and shut them off constantly and neglect them! These tiny engines need boost all the time and wear out accordingly. That's my 2 cents and rant! 😄
I own a 2009 Toyota Tacoma with 79k miles. Changed all the fluids and still running strong. 15 year old truck. Paint is holding up very well. Love the Silver Streak Mica paint. I also own a 1997 Toyota 4Runner with only 55k miles and it’s a gem. Beige exterior with the tan interior. Clean and never been abused.
I happen to be one of those people who wish that there were manual parking brakes, roll down windows, manual windows, a key, and maybe a simple Bluetooth radio system and backup cameras in the base model trucks and cars. Gimmicks make it where the middle class are being priced out of everything. FYI my cars are: 2011 Tundra base 4x4, 2007 FJ, 2003 Honda Civic manual transmission. Only mods are Bluetooth radio.
As a Toyota master myself and I’ve been at the same dealership since 2013, unlike other people my age I would often listen to the older guys and soak in their wisdom. Toyota has changed over the years. Could be do to the older folks retiring and the newer guys taking the reins. Could also be a culture thing like how everybody wants the fully loaded out Mac daddy model with a sunroof. Could also be processes have changed which could be cheaper or epa mandated. All I know is at the dealer level it’s getting to the point idk how people are afford this gimmicky options and we are seeing issues that never existed before, like water leaks! I’ve been with Toyota for 12 years and have chased more water leaks in the past 2-4 years than I have my whole career. I’ve been a Toyota fan boy since I was 16 but it’s getting to the point I don’t want to buy anything new cuz I remember the days a base le Camry was like 22 grand out the door, now they start at like 31 and the base L Corolla was line 14 grand and now it starts at 25.
My 07 es350 just crossed 200K miles. Thanks to all the help from your channel I've learned to do the transmission fluid and coolant as well as my normal 4-5K oil changes. I must be weird because the longer I drive a car the more I like it and I like it more than the new ones. Hoping it will go another 200K and then maybe I'll pick up another 10 year old one.
Great even headed analysis, we have 4 Toyotas the newest of which is 10 years old but we have always maintained them and that’s why they still last. I agree that dealerships are the weakest link in Toyota not really the vehicles
Automotive technology peaked in 2018 as far as I'm concerned. They already had adaptive cruise control, auto emergency braking, backup cameras, proximity keys and push button start, automatic lift gates, lane departure and blind spot monitoring, but physical buttons and dials were still present, so you didn't have to go through drop down menus on a massive screen or use voice commands for everything. It's been downhill ever since.
Great points! I got a used 2018 TRD Off Road 4Runner to avoid pandemic build quality issues. Did not get premium to avoid the gimmicks. Went with 4Runner because it’s built in Japan. It’s been an amazing vehicle.
I took a chance with a new Frontier instead of a Tocoma. So far so good, hope I don't regret it long-term. I made the decision because the frontier was 10K cheaper than the Tacoma without the recent quality issues... Theoretically. I've been a Toyota snob my whole life (still am) but I went out on a limb. Wish me luck! 😬
Being a natural aspiration; no turbo V6, ideally should be more reliable. The only question is 9 speed automatic. Still believe you made a wise choice.
@@kurtbeck5809 , me too. People love these trucks! They are very much like the old school Tundra. The only 1/2 ton without ASS & cylinder de - activation.😁
Only for so-called initial quality. The way I judge it is how many miles over 100,000 does it last without any major issues? And, of course, everything depends on what model, engine, etc. You get, they're not all equal. I think that's always been the case.
Power windows, locks, ac, auto trans, cruise, tilt wheel, and Bluetooth or aux to radio is all the options I want. And the quieter the better when driving them.
My door doesn’t open on my 2021 honda when it rains hard. Only opens from the outside so I’m stuck in. I’ll trade the power windows, locks, auto trans, cruise for a handbrake lever at this stage. This car is too modern for a simple and affordable aux cable.
Thank you AMD. As a loyal EX-Toyota owner (7x), it really does come down to the "Cost/Value For Dollar" ratio in recent years. In truth, Toyota priced me out as early as the mid-1990's. I still greatly admire most of their vehicles. But budgetary concerns caused me to begin considering (and purchasing) other quality/functional/reliable JDM brands. I still clearly remember the pride I felt as a 17 year-old when I was able to buy my first Toyota. To me, the pricing (*LARGELY due to DEALER "ADD-ONS"/"Adjustments") is a deal-breaker. Thanks again for explaining how YOU see Toyota right now.
Still love our Toyotas. We have owned many, currently a 21 Highlander and 13 Sienna. Don’t agree with the monthly subscription for some features but we don’t use those anyway. Our dealer never went over MSRP even at the worse time trying to find cars. Love the channel
I had a '98 Avalon and now drive a '02 Lexus ES 300. I'm a retired aircraft mechanic. I hate "fluff". Give me basic power steering, brakes (antilock is good), windows, air conditioning and locks. I hate push button start! Give me a basic key fob, with an ignition switch/ security system and I'm good to go. The 1MZFE and 3MZFE were the best engines ever made (have to add the GM 3800 to that list too) Best bullet proof V6 GM ever made. My switch to Toyota/Lexus was in the mid 2000's.
I’ve owned a 2001 celica gt supposedly one of the worst engines and oil burner. Since 2001 my celica has been amazing. Never a huge problem. Only maintenance. Still looks good and I drive about 200 miles a week to work and it only uses about 5 to 6 gallons of gas on the original engine and transmission. I want to buy 2 more 😂. Loyal and happy with my Toyota. I won’t be replacing it ever.I’m saving to buy a spare just in case😊
AMD, it’s not one model that is facing the twin turbo V6 issues, it’s a range of models w this engine including the new Lexus SUV line up, LS500, and the Toyota Sequoia. Engine has been out since 2018. Not to mention the multiple issues with the new Tacoma. I am sure Toyota will fix those but it’s not something to ignore.
I just bought such a car. Its a Kia picanto 1.1 automatic 4 speed, 2005. With no ABS. No radio no AC, no power lock or windows. Then you apriciate rear wiper and sprinkler. I am so happy. Greatings from Poland
As complexity goes up, quality control has to go up at an exponential rate. IMO, toyota is still a leader in reliability compared to modern car brands.
Hi AMD, As usual, your videos hit a home run. Thanks for the honesty and professional opinions you provide. Keep up the great work. I'll be looking for more videos.
The thing is, MOST people are obsessed with "lazy features & technologies." As Amed mentioned, "Gimmicks" is what the current society is duped into believing all these special features are amazing. Also, Amed mentioned RAV4 model - I have a 2005 RAV4 (bought new in 5/ 2005) and currently has ~343500 mi. What's great about this model is it has a Timing Chain that I don't have to worry about replacing. However, it's been burning oil since 300k mi mark at about 1.5 Qt every 1500 mi give or take. But other than I replaced Rear Differential seals, mounting bracket (rubber bushing cracked/broke), radiator during the past 19 yrs. And other maintenance parts.
I have a 2008 Avalon with 175,000 miles. I’ve owned it for 40,000. In that time I’ve…. -swapped both front axles (previous owner poorly changed boots so a rebuild wasn’t possible. Also didn’t want to replace one and not the other) -swapped both the lower control arms (they weren’t clunking yet, but didn’t feel like doing major suspension work again while doing the axles) -changed the spark plugs, ignition coils, and the plenum gasket (preventative maintenance) -ordered but haven’t replaced rear suspension because I learned the tie rods absolutely will not come off and so I’ll have to cut them off and order new ones -front coil springs, insulators/boots/bellows (somehow the bump stops were practically new and I need to get back in there to swap the struts and mounts as they were okay but I give them about a year) I obviously did oil changes every 5K, a trans fluid change (which I should do more than just the once), brake fluid flush, coolant flush, and brake work. I have gone back and forth between praising this car’s reliability and hating it. The simple truth is, cars will NEVER be easy to maintain. It comes down to what you care about. This old machine still drives like a dream and gets me 30 MPGs on road trips so I’ll keep her around as long as the north eastern rust allows.
The problem with all auto makers including Toyota is when you want to pick certain features you are stuck adding a package for each feature. And that drives people to shop around brands. The brand that ditches package setups and allows the customer to pick and choose what they want in their vehicle is the brand people will gravitate to in these inflated times. I miss those times I got the chance to sit down and select what I wanted in my build, Now I just look at what is left on the lot of the outgoing models with rebates because there are things I don't need that I have to accept to get what I do want and the marked down prices compensate.
My ordered my base model 2006 Sienna with one option package that had useful things like traction control. I skipped a lot of gadgets and gizmos that would have caused problems. Too bad you can't do that now.
That's why Ford sells so many F series. My tree farm uses them exclusively and the number of options, packages, and accessories to choose from is massive. My grandfather would always order his trucks with the highest interior options and lowest exterior ones (like base headlights and trim). He said when people see their electrician show up in a top spec vehicle they think they are being over-charged and I'm inclined to believe him.
Wow, what a novel concept; getting to select the options one wants or doesn't want on a vehicle! That's how it was done a long time ago. I recall an Oldsmobile commercial where the slogan said have one built for you. The last vehicle that I could have built for me the way I wanted it to be was my 2002 Saturn SL2, which was the last year of the really good Saturns. Nowadays, forget about it!
Yeah, back in they day the average car price was 20.000 dollars. We could pick and choose the options we wanted. Today, cars average price is 40.000 dollars. If we could pick and choose the options we wanted today the price would be much more. The package deals are easier and faster to build, with fewer employees.
Toyota of Japan needs to set Toyota of North American straight. They have given them too much responsibility and they are messing up with the Tundra and Tacoma . And the prices are ridiculous
@@jst_TVyeah that explains everything. The quality took such a hit you can tell toyota has received some american freedom with their new models. Going super cheap on quality now and riding on the nameplate with overpricing. Old enough to see it.🙈
Mostly agree with you AMD. I don't know if it's a coincidence, but my wife's 2012 Yaris had brake caliper failure at around 85k miles. One of them seized so we replaced it, and then the other side also seized a few months later. It had a brake fluid flush a few years ago so it wasn't neglected. In contrast, my 2001 Yaris was about 20 years old and at 200k miles when it was totalled. Original calipers! I believe what changed was that in recent years Toyota uses European or American suppliers, whereas before it was pretty much wholly Japanese braking systems.
AMD, good video as always. The only point that I will contest is that it's not auto windows and auto door locks that are pricing cars sky high. Those features have become standard for most folks, and are a necessary safety feature for many of us. It's all the fancy "safety" stuff with all the sensors and driving inputs that are the pricey items, IMO. For us older drivers who actually pay attention while we are driving, these can be considered optional and not mandatory. But in our litigious society in the US, it is perhaps a CYA issue to have all the new safety features. Personally, I hope to keep my 2007 Rav4 with the V6 for as long as I drive.
things that are must haves/nice to haves for me are power steering, power windows, basic cruise control, backup camera (360 cameras are one of the brand new tech that seems like a nice to have too), screen for just the cameras (I don't care about it being touch screen), I wouldn't mind it being a manual but my wife will probably disagree. but to be honest, the new tech doesn't really grind my gears. what really ticks me off with Toyota is how they seem to be following the trend of making it harder to maintain your own car. ie: no transmission dipstick, leaving no working room in the engine bay, and sometimes just hiding basic maintenance items in places that make it a pain in the ass to get to.
On my Honda CRV 2011.. rocking it with no regrets and not a single problem.. not going to change it until it drops dead :D (I consider Honda and Toyota the same type of manufacturing spirit:)
We have a 2015 Sienna with 200k miles that’s still going strong. We previously had a 2002 Sienna that we sold at just shy of 300k miles. I liked the cloth interior of the 2002 much better than the cheap leather of the 2015. I wish I could have picked the safety features without leather!
Yes, i just drilled out the block and put timeserts in the block. I put ARP studs in place of head bolts. 116k . Should of never happened. Not ever overheated or abused. Bought new.
You are 100 percent correct. I had a 2016 Hyundai Tucson, which had bad piston rings and burned a ton of oil. It was recall-eligible, but Hyundai refused the claim because they're Hyundai. I bought Lexus cars to replace the Hyundai and I'll never look back.
AMD, Those of us who live and drive in the real world compare the quality of Toyotas to other car brands. Other people compare Toyotas to perfection. If people can find a better brand, PLEASE go and buy it as that will cut waiting lists for today's 'lower quality' Toyota cars. 😉 Many other brands have 'high quality' inventory piling up at their dealerships and I am sure they will be happy to take your money. 😂 In regard to Toyota pricing, in the good old days of 1999 a top trim Camry with 194 hp cost $25,000. With inflation that translates to over $47,000. A quarter century ago you had to pay for a little extra for Toyota quality and the same holds true today. The 1999 price also makes today's Camry LE priced around $29K seem like a bit of a bargain.
Gadgets: I like ac, i miss it in my car. I like airbags, abs, power steering. I like swapable radios. And i like all the other default lil features. I dont need a screen in my car. Dont need ai, dont need lane assistant, dont need all this stuff. Mby id like a reverse cam but it would be a gadget
As Scotty Kilmer has noted? Toyota's made in japan seem to be of better quality than those made in places like mexico. Seems to me that the obsessive government mandates are making things overly complicated. We no longer have a free market where manufacturers can make the product that customers want. Instead, Unelected Government bureaucrats dictate insane policies regarding who they can hire and what products they can manufacture.
@@wstoneburgh Or the shitty RX350's that were built in Canada. My 2009 is junk. Transmission problems and engine knockong at 86k all dealer maitained alsp
Seems your right in the problem zone time line wise- my 2006 RX400h doing well knock on wood ( my model has none though) main issues rattles and wind noises and not as quiet as my old 90s Buick though.@@RobJackmehoff
I agree government mandates are a big part of the problems for all newer cars I wish all car manufactures would join together and push back against the government mandates so they can return to building cars the right way.
1979 was the first year I bought a new Corolla; I have currently owned 16 Toyota. I think the statement you made about them going overboard on technology is 100% correct, they've gone too far.
Buy 2021 Rav4 or corolla and u will see 😬 Constantly having problems on those overpriced cars . Yeah 8 years ago they were the best but right now they are trying their best to not be
Also the fact people are too lazy to maintain their vehicles these days. To top it off these vehicles have more electronics and computers in than ever before. So less reliable due to electronics being the weakest link on top of government EPA mandates. It’s not rocket science, it’s just the way things are these days. This goes for any vehicle not just Toyota, take care of your vehicle 90% of the time and it’ll take care of you.
@@Arman-tm1kzagreed, My brother is also a mechanic for Toyota and he was telling me a new tundra came in for that recall and the engine that was sent from Toyota for the replacement was also no good. He says the highlander/RAV4 (non hybrid) come in for transmission issues often. He said the Corollas are solid and rarely visit for issues.
I noticed the difference when the RAV4 changed in 2019 a big drop in interior quality compared to prior model and the RAV4 is one of the better built current models Just compare the current 4Runner which is the oldest new vehicle Toyota sells in 2024 to the new stuff Materials used are obviously lower quality Is it sufficient quality? Probably because the older vehicles were overbuilt I agree the the first decade of the century there was a definite quality drop
It's my understanding that in Japan people can order custom vehicles with what they want and don't want. That's an outstanding option for the customer. that's what i wish we could have here in North America.
I’ve owned two Toyotas both Corolla’s…an 09’ and my current is 14’ both drove exceptional. Love Toyota! My future car will ALSO be a Toyota whenever that is!
4:55 Advanced driver assistance systems such as automatic emergency braking, lane keep assistance, lane departure warning, adaptive cruise control, blind spot monitoring, and parking assist are all gimmicks that make cars more expensive to buy and maintain and repair.
Emergency braking saved my life. A drunk loser almost ran me over but the emergency braking in his car saved me. So you take your biased and fact less based opinion and put it up your …..
An interesting fact is you can buy a car with all these so called added safety features but your insurance cost has gone up over the same car without those features.
@@JDESP Blind spot monitoring is not reliable. You still have to turn your head before you change lanes. Says it right in the owner's manual. Not worth the cost.
As an early adopter of both the 3rd gen Tacoma, and 3rd gen Tundra, I can say its spot on with the issues. It seems like with the lower volume of trucks sold, it takes a long time for issues to bubble up and get fixed. Its a night an day difference if you bring up an issue with the dealer very early on, vs after a few years once TSB's are released etc. I think Toyota could work to improve this. Like you said the volume sellers models don't seem to have these issues, but I'd say its more that they bubble up quicker and get addressed because of the increased volume. No dealer service dept is incentivized to spend a lot of time with early adopters on issues. Things are so complicated that I don't even think many techs can deal with the issues without engaging TAS.
Almost bought a 2006 Tacoma a few months ago. Single cab, crank windows, manual transmission, 4x4. Rust issues and the fact it was tan/gold made me pass in it, but I was seriously considering it for a bit. I can say that I’ll look for super base models on the used market. The new market hasn’t been on my mind since 2019. They’ve come down some but prices are still atrocious. Ford lost me for good when they started making plastic oil pans and made wet timing belts for the Focus…it just screams cheap. Back to Toyota: I always liked the true compact Toyota pickups, learned to drive on a 1989, and had an 04 Tacoma for a while. Frame rust killed that one, so I’m more on edge about any rust now. Was never a Chevy truck guy. Their interiors were hot garbage, seats would crack, dashes would crack, until around the mid-90s and even then they were sub-par compared to Ford and Toyota. Anyway, if I had to pick a new model it’d be a Toyota. The price may be high but at least Toyota is attempting quality.
Well said i have owned 2 toyotas and one Lexus and Love them all and Maintain them myself 3000 mile oil changes and all other maintenance my self all 3 cars still running strong thank you my friend.
Howdy AMD, I absolutely love my Toyota's (1987 4Runner, 2012 4Runner and a 1997 Camry)! I agree, they respond well to maintenance (like aircraft) they need to be maintained meticulously. I change ALL of my fluids ANNUALLY and as a result, I have NO problems. Of course I change my engine oil every 5,000 miles or six months using synthetic. Also, you can not go wrong with genuine Toyota parts.
I may be alone, but I drove a 89 ford escort, crank windows, no power steering, no ac, 4 speed manual transmission, etc. I got 205,000 miles on it. 38mpg all day long. Sold it running well and replaced it with a 24 camry. That gets 40mpg. I would still like a vehicle with no bells and whistle. I hope the camry will last as long
Great video, thanks. I just bought a 2024 Prius Prime XSE and so far am very happy with it. I plan on doing the oil change every 5k no matter how much EV I drive with it. I owned a 2013 Prius V and never had any problems with it. the only thing that failed was the 12 volt battery after 11 years. Also some rust at the bottom of a door, but other wise nothing went wrong. That car did not stay in a garage, it was kept outside in northern New England .
See my early post. I miss my 71 Corona and 1979 Datsun 210 which had 5 sp manual and AC and really did get mid 40s mpg, very simple handled good, super easy to work on dead reliable.
You're absolutely correct! Too expensive! Go back to the basic power and air package, make it look nice, and you'll get a whole new generation of buyers IMHO.
Completely agree with everything said here. I replaced my 2004 LC100 this year and was considering the LX600. Specifically did not b/c of those engine issues. Happy to hear how Toyota is handling it, just wish this would have been announced earlier this year vs waiting. Regarding maintenance, 💯 correct. After decades of Consumer Reports telling everyone they are getting scammed if they replace the transmission fluid (and other normal maintenance items) the general population is just geared against it. Add in that people still regularly replace their vehicles every 2-3 years and these upkeep items simply are not getting done by the first or second owners.
The way a buy a new car is buy the lowest trim of the highest level model I am looking for. Example I would get an XL F150 over a Lariat Ranger. LE Camry over a XSE Corolla. This rule has served me well over decades
Name another auto manufacturer that had the same level of rusting frame issues as Toyota did. I do agree as a former Ford master technician, people DO NOT maintain their vehicles they way they should.
I own a tree farm and we've had over a dozen F2/350s over the years with 200k+ miles and only minor surface rust on the frames, having never been washed in their entire lives. Toyota simply didn't do their research on how their vehicles would be used or maintained and build them accordingly.
Chevrolet comes to mind, their old C10’s and Suburbans and modern-ish 2500’s/3500’s just love to rot out everywhere there’s metal. Audi was the only one who got it right with the zinc-coated underbodies, but they ditched that after the 80’s bc cost
I'm now retired and I started driving mostly Japanese vehicles since the late 1970s. I have owned Hondas, Toyotas, and Nissans. I bought a new 1991 Nissan Hardbody pickup truck with a 4 cyl engine, manual transmission, no power windows or A/C, and drove it for 20 years. I look after my vehicles reasonably well and I don't drive them hard. In general, I have been very happy with my purchases. When Covid came along, I thought that it would be nice to have a new vehicle. I ordered a Honda Odyssey, waited 7 months for it to arrive, and the dealer ended up telling me that there was no indication of when,. or if, I was going to take delivery. I cancelled my order, waited a while, and went in search of a new Toyota Grand Highlander. No luck in finding one as the dealers had none and would take custom orders. Eventually, I ended up buying a Honda Pilot Sport, and I am very pleased with my purchase. I really like the ride and handling, and the V6 is smooth and provides plenty of power for my needs. Hopefully this vehicle will last a long time.
Got 97 tocama with 432,000 miles. Would not buy a new one. But do agree about the turbos. A lot of people, especially women, are going to neglect or not understand that turbo engines need regular oil changes. If not performed, they will fail early and damage performance. Turbos need clean oil if it is oil driven.
Because of your channel we just bought a 23 Lexus GX460 Premium Plus Sport. Our 14 Ridgeline is getting some age on it and the new Ridgeline is a huge disappointment. She absolutely loves her Lexus and I love that old reliable V-8. We're looking forward to many years of happiness with the 460 and yes.....change your oil and filter every 4-5K and check your air filter and cabin air filter every time you change your oil. Use the oil and oil filter and air filters sold at the dealership parts counter. Drain transmission fluid every 60K and refill it. Change coolant as per the recommended service interval and your vehicle will be very happy. Most problems occur because very simple yet necessary maintenance is neglected.
I definitely agree that truck owners are some of the most entitled and loud people I have ever met. The trucks indeed had problems, but man truck people keep on asking and asking and all they do is complain and complain.
Nothing is built like it use to be , some new things are built really good but nothing is perfect. Also I do think cars are getting to carried away with tech in cars , I like tech a lot , I think it is very interesting but I like basic tech in my car , I don’t over complicated or features I will never use. I think companies like Toyota and Honda are trying new things that are good and not so good but that the problem with peoples expectations
I am a Toyota owner since 1990 and I concur with you that the key is maintenance because all the times I had problems with my cars was due to lack of maintenance on my part or the previous owner, I had two used units and the rest I purchased brand new 🙏🏽
All these new Toyoats with junk turbos is a big deal breaker, a small engine in a large car/truck with a turbo will not last all that stress on the engine. Toyota did not re-invent the Turbo they will be a expensive repair down the road all for a few MPG savings that will be eliminated on replacing them. Everyone just blames the EPA and gov.
