I met Kyle at an airport one time - he seemed like a nice guy. Has to be tough growing up the son of one of the best and trying to live up to the King's success. Just the same, it's an accomplishment just to race at the top level of Nascar. He actually was quite successful earlier on his carear. Losing his son was so sad for that family. I will say one thing - Kyle made money racing and he's making money as a broadcaster - good for him!
I'm surprised he has the strength to even announce races at New Hampshire. Adam Petty was supposed to carry on the Petty tradition, and Kyle has never been the same since his death.
Jimmy is amazing in his own right, but let me tell you, Jeff Gordon strung together some of the most dominant years I've ever seen in NASCAR, before this stupid chase format came into existence
InsaneHD Me too brother I got into the sport after watching the finish at Daytona that year, and Jeff Gordon was my favorite driver and seeing him win at my first race was awesome
@@forwarddrive4066 kyle was actually a decent race car driver but people want to act like he wasnt bc he didn't surpass his fathers success and that's bc as time goes on the completion gets tougher each year if richard petty career would have have began and the technology and competition was the same as it was when kyle started he probably wouldn't have done any better
I remember they said sometimes it's just your year and everything goes your way, in reference to Gordon, and then he loses in the Chase despite being the best driver all year. Just another reason I'll never say that Jimmie is better than Jeff
Jimmie won by a popularity contest called the chase and playoff format. Jimmie himself was the forefront about getting the playoffs established he knew how to win the least and achieve the most. Johnson is nowhere near as good as Gordon He would've never one not one championship the old way. Gordon won all 4 of his the old fashioned way.
2004, too. He would've won by 47 points over JJ, and Kurt Busch would've been 4th in points. Just goes to show, the chase can make some drivers look better than they really are.
Jimme didn't win 5 because of the chase.He won 5 because he is Jimmie Johnson.if they had a no chase than Chad and Jimmie would've PLANNED on that instead of PLANNING for a Chase.
I was 7 years old at the time and just got into NASCAR. I was living in Wilke-Barre at the time right up the road from long pond where the track is. Jeff Gordon was my favorite driver and seeing my favorite driver win in my first race was insane
What I always said Like him or not Can't deny his driving skill Even under the wing of the intimidater He should have had 7 I not a fan of Jimmy Johnson Not one bit Unfortunately I respect his driving to I just don't want see him win a Championship again Lol kinda fed up with Kyle Bush to Old schoolers like Yarborough, petty, Earnhardt Would have straightened his ass out
See 11:15 for Kyle Petty reference (it's in good humor). Also: Why all the hating on Kyle Petty? Look up his stats on Wikipedia. He was a race winner and (almost) never had the best car. He was a legitimate title contender for a short time. He performed relatively better on the more technical tracks, indicating a decent level of natural ability. He was slow on the cookie-cutter tracks for sure... but if that's your thing then whatever. Remember that NASCAR talent is drawn from a huge population and is (or was) quite competitive back in it's heyday. A lot of these drivers could have been competitive in F1 had they been groomed the same as the typical 'go-cart brat' we see today. If you run top 20 in a Nascar event circa 1995 - 2005 you were pretty damn good behind the wheel. Richard made sure his son would have to earn his way into NASCAR. Many people don't know anything about Kyle's career. He drove for the Wood Brother's in the 80's when they were struggling and performed competitively (pretty much matched Dale Jarrett's performance with the same team). He helped turn Sabco racing into a competitive team. They fell off later on. Kyle was competing for (occasional) race wins up until 1997, and competing for top tens up until 2006. He was juggling lots of stuff outside of racing including running the team itself, charity stuff, and some tragic life events as well. He kept the team going through some tough sh*t. Personally, I enjoyed watching Kyle white-knuckle his way to an 8th-place finish at Bristol in 2005 rather than seeing some go-kart brat with a team whose budget was 10x Kyle's compete for race wins. I'd rather see drivers with personalities race even if they aren't competing for wins week in and week out. I like seeing an old-timer mix it up with the young guns; what other sport could you see different eras of drivers compete with one another?
I somewhat agree with you, with a few exceptions. 2006 wouldve been impossible without the chase. They simply found gold late in the season. 2007 also wouldve been hard because Gordon had a historically amazing season. Like 30 top 10s or something. 2008-2010 couldve been possible.
I'm not a Jimmie fan. But all you guys here debating on how good he really is, just get it, he's REALLY good. We won't enjoy it until 20 years from now when we have someone else to hate. People hated Earnhardt Sr. People hated Waltrip. We hate everyone who wins. Johnson is one of the best ever. I hate seeing him win every week, but I appreciate watching one of the best sports teams ever compete.
Dale Inman was an innovator yes. Petty's oversized engines were built by brother Maurice. Chad Knaus is a huge cheater and innovator dude. Illegal shock gaskets in 2005 at Dover, a device on the rear window to lower the window at Daytona in 2006, illegal fender modifications at Sonoma in 2007, etc. Those three busts right there were for blatant violations of the rules. Now his chassis setups that helped skew the rear end were pure innovation. He's brilliant, but he cheats too.
You have a good point there. The crew chief has a lot to do with how a driver performs. Gordon had Everham, Stewart had zippadeli. However Knaus doesn't drive those cars. And both you and i know, nascar cars are as close to equal as ever especially with the gen 6 just coming out. The thing that impresses me is how Jimmie has won championships in so many different cars. Gen 4. 07 COT. COT. COT with spoiler. And now with the gen 6 he is dominating.
Right, but under the old system, all the drivers chasing Jeff, Carl and Harvick would have raced differently... it's fun to debate "what ifs", but at the end of the day, you can't really do that with the Chase\Non-Chase argument.
Every time I watch this I get excited to see the DLP 96 - my favorite paint scheme of all time - in third. Then, of course, I realize that Tony is once again in 36th, having just been put a lap down. It's like mediocre racing Groundhog Day.
Oh thank God Jeff put that man in retirement. I couldn't stand seeing Kyle getting his butt whooped every week. But now i wish they forced him out of the booth and just scrap TNT NASCAR coverage
Danica is only in her 2nd year of NASCAR... Kyle Petty had many more years to do better. People are really only putting Danica under a microscope because she's a woman. Also, Danica has won a championship on another major circuit outside of NASCAR, making her better than Kyle Petty by default anyways.
"People are really only putting Danica under a microscope because she's a woman" Funny, and people did the same thing with Kyle Petty, simply because he was the son and grandson of two of the best drivers in Nascar's history. With a little luck, he'd have had the opportunity to win the title in 92, and still did have a shot at it going into the last race that year. Danica, to be fair, like you said, is under a microscope because she's a woman, but it doesn't take a genius to see that she isn't even on the same level as Kyle Petty. It might be her second year, but I can promise this year will be more of the same "Danica Patrick in the wall". Plus, from looking at her stats, please do tell which championship she won, because I'm not seeing anywhere where she has won one. Since we're being fair here, to be honest, I don't think Kyle had anything left after his son died in 2000. You can tell by his stats and his finishes after that that everything was just going downhill after that. Anyone that claims that Danica Patrick is better than Kyle Petty, clearly doesn't know anything about racing. Kyle has more wins than her, and has more finishes better than her. The biggest thing Danica has is that she has marketing appeal. That's really about it. She does have talent, I'll give her that. Unfortunately,it takes more than talent to be successful. When she does more than Kyle Petty, then we can talk about her being better than him. Until then, fact is, she isn't.
"doesn't know anything about racing..." excuse me? I've been watching racing for my entire life and race cars at the local dirt track so, let's discard that little comment. You really haven't given her any time to develop anything in the league, yet you're treating her like someone who has been in NASCAR for as long as everyone else. Being fair my foot.
You would be wrong, sir. I have been a Jeff Gordon fan since 1995, and damn proud of it. I chalk Texas 2010 up to two drivers going for the win. Obviously, if it wasn't for Gordon, Jimmie would still be a nobody..... but then again, hey, while we're talking about the Chase and not knowing for sure exactly what would happen under different circumstances, what do I know? ;)
It would only be possible on road courses. Ovals would be too dangerous. Cars are too heavy with a higher center of gravity...Cars would lose grip at higher speeds and whipsaw into the walls...NNS has a program to use wets at road courses. Only used them once in a race I believe. They had to add windshield wipers to the cars...
Jeff chic... watch the video and pay attention, 4 wins by races cut short, WOW impressive EH, read Gordon's stats, he's a glorified champ hands down, came into Spirit cup and won his fan base on talent and skill, changed the face off NASCAR and set many and broke many records, love him or hate the guy can get up under the wheel and drive the wheels off anything...champion to the core and his legacy will be hard to beat
Brake issues, when was it Jeff had that awful brake failure and clobbered the wall driver side here at Pocono? I remember Clint Bowyer saying “I thought he was dead” following Jeff when it happened.
awesomeman Gordon, along with Rick Hendrick, co-owns the No. 48 Chevrolet driven by Jimmie Johnson, who won six Cup championships from 2006 to 2010, and 2013. Gordon also has an equity stake in his own No. 24 team.[7] Gordon also owned a Busch Series team between 1999 and 2000, Gordon/Evernham Motorsports (co-owned with Ray Evernham; later solely owned as JG Motorsports), winning twice.
Had Dale Jr. not had that concussion and finished those other two races where he was running he would have won the championship last year under the old system.
This was the last year I remember enjoying Nascar. They replaced these cars completely with the COT the next year and the racing just hasn't been the same. IMO they got to safety happy and forgot about the actual racing.
With Gen 6 the train is back and turned exciting tantric racing where pairs of cars were fighting each into watch the same two lines of cars following each other around and around. This is compounded by the point system that is in place. So that most newer drivers are content with a top ten finish so they might have a shot at the chase instead of pulling out of line and going foe the win.
Oh I absolutely agree. Jimmie will never be comparable to Petty or Earnhardt because of the system he won under. Being good in the last 10 races should not a champion make. He definitely would have won some championships, but again, different systems and all that, so it's impossible to tell just how many he would have won. I surmise it would be between 2-3 like you suggested because he was dominate for the whole season in the first 3 championships that he won. Same can't be said for the last 2.
I remember this season, one of like 3 times Newman just ran outta luck against Gordon. Great drivers, Hopefully Newman will get on another prime and race him again, 2 go hard all speed guys. too cool to watch them.
Shoot, if he and Alan Kulwicki were both still racing, they'd be competing with guys like Jeff, Dale Sr. and others for the championship! Heck, Dale probably wouldn't have won the '93 championship if Kulwicki's plane never crashed.
That's exactly what I tell everyone! It would have been no problem to add the new safety features to the Gen 4 and we'd still have the great looking cars and the great racing. I can't believe how many people thought the Gen 6 was actually closer to a "stock" car. People really are gullible.
They're a step in the right direction, but the Gen 4 cars were built with speed in mind. The Gen 6 cars aren't much different from the COT in truth. The Chassis is the same, just with a different skin. I admired the old car, and the technological improvements in aerodynamics. The old car was plenty safe as it was. They could've added all the safety to the gen 4 cars anyways. Besides they just looked badass!
Speed doesn't mean the racing is better, a lot of the time it actually makes it worse. NASCAR easily had its best racing in the very late 90s and early 2000s and speeds were much less than what they are now. The faster the car = more need for clean air.
Jeff Gordon would have won in 2007...I mean he had the largest gap in history early on in the season, but noo the chase time came and jimmie boy won it
I think people say the "he wouldn't have won if it wasn't for the chase" for one reason that I notice. It's to keep Jimmie Johnson from being over exaggerated...Which I do agree on to some point he's good but he isn't that good. I do still believe he'd have maybe 2 or 3 even if they used a different strategy for the season if the chase wasn't there.
Not exactly. These guys race a little differently under the Chase format than they did the season-long format. They are much more conservative under the Chase format for fear of losing large chunks of points. Under the season long format, they were much more aggressive because they had all season to accumulate points. It's impossible to say who would have won the championships had the Chase not been implemented. You can't just swap points systems and say so-and-so would have won the championship
Junior Johnson would probably be the greatest innovator in NASCAR, with Smokey Yunick a close second. But I will say that the difference between innovation and cheating is a fuzzy line sometimes for sure.
I f'n hate this argument. Had there been no Chase, drivers would have raced with a completely different mindset throughout the course of the 36-race season. It's a different day and age in the sport. Only in the last few years have teams even come close to the 48. I'm not a fan of theirs, but they set the bar - everyone else had to scramble to catch up, and they finally have done that. Don't hate the 48 for winning - hate everyone else for not being able to step up. I know I kinda do. lol
The Keselowski and Stewart part was a joke, 'cause you said "Don't hate the 48 for winning- hate everyone else for not stepping up. I know I kinda do." But yeah, that battle wouldn't have been so bad if Jimmie didn't decide to be a little baby and take a swing at his own car owner. I don't think he even understands that if he wasn't careful, he could've taken two great racecars out.
You don't know who would have what because drivers approach the system different. Do you think the results would have been anywhere close to the same without the chase? No.
Why does this have 40,000 views and 110 comments? And out of all my videos, this one specifically is far and away more popular than just about anything else I posted. lol
CarTwenty4 I don't see it either. What happened was Kyle's son Adam was killed in a Busch race. He finished up the season for his dead son. I don't think he raced again after that
CarTwenty4 Kyle said in the video that if Jeff won that Kyle would retire because of the ridiculous luck Jeff had been having in recent weeks. Lo and behold, the race was called, and Kyle ran his last race about a year later
Well it clearly doesn't race like it at all from watching it. They have a huge spoiler creating way too much rear downforce, a huge front splitter paired with huge rear quarter panels making clean air mean way too much and a dumb shark fin which pretty much works like a driving assist. Pretty big differences compared to the old car and gen6, and not good ones at that.