2009 Mac Pro 5,1 Extreme Upgrade

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The Paper Street Audio Company main Mac Pro is still an older maxed out 5.1. It performs great now with these upgrades.
Everything I chose had to be fully Apple supported officially. No hacks, no 3rd party drivers, no workarounds. Everything had to have proven stability and performance. Everything had to offer a great advantage to my more modestly updated Mac Pro. It’s possible to go further with the video card than I did, but the RX 580 exceeds my needs and I couldn’t justify more money on the video card when this machine will be used almost solely for audio production .
Here is a great resource guide to Mac Pro upgrades
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Processor upgrade information from EveryMac, an excellent reference site with information about every mac model
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Here is a processor upgrade kit as found on eBay.
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The absolute best speed increase for drives comes when you put a PCI card that has NVME M.2 SSD drives on it.
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Here are the popular and well supported NVME drives I chose for my system.
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This gets the absolute latest iteration of USB 3 on the Mac Pro.
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Upgrading RAM is as easy as can be. You can get up to 128 GB of RAM for a Mac Pro so I did.
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This is one of many kits that supplies the exact, Apple supported, fast wifi and newest bluetooth standards allowing you to do much faster downloads and use features like handoff on the mac.
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My GPU choice was an RX 580 8GB . MacVidCards are a reputable supplier of video cards which are not just compatible with Mac Pros, but you can get them flashed so that you can see the boot screen and boot up volume selector which is a big deal.
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I moved some SSD drives I had into the 3.5 Hard Disk slots in the Mac Pro. The OWC sleds are perfect for fitting the 2.5 SSDs into the 3.5 SATA HD slots and are by far my preference.
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Ifixit is always a super helpful reference site with build guides, tools, parts.
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My favorite RU-vid channel dedicated to Macs and with a lot of talk about upgrades and options is the Luke Miani channel.
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The most upgradable Mac Pros are the ones from 2009-2012, which are the 4.1 and 5.1 versions. The 4.1 versions can have their firmware upgraded to the 5.1 firmware.
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The MacRumors forums have a lot of discussion and information for those doing upgrades and builds.
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Often overlooked, the Mac Pro does have a common battery to retain its time and various settings.
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The last officially supported OS for this Mac Pro is Mojave.
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Here is another great discussion thread with lots of specifics about the process of updating an older Mac Pro to run Mojave. Some things must be done in a particular order, and a couple of firmware updates are involved along the way. Recommended reading.
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@GavinGainey 9 месяцев назад

I bought a Mac Pro 3.1 2008 model back around 2017. I've upgraded it a couple times over the years, and I'm just getting done with another refresh, and every time I do it, I am astonished with how well it continues to keep up with current tech. Apple did their best to phase these units out because they were too good and too reliable to convince people to upgrade to a newer model. here, 15 years later, it still keeps up.

@nickygepetto6684 2 года назад

My friend. Why this video doesn't have 100,000 views is astonishing. This video should win awards (multiple) for 'Best Instruction' and other categories. Between this video and using OpenCore to upgrade to Monterey, my 2010 is destroying my friend's 2019 MacPro in all numbers. I'm 6' 4" and moonlight as a bouncer but I'm almost crying. I'm so happy that the computer I love and have made so much money from can be used for a few more years. There is a reason that Apple stopped making their MacPros user upgradable. And it's because of videos like this and because of OpenCore.

@acidtechno Год назад

48k not so bad 😂

@artysanmobile 3 года назад

I did this to my 2009 4,1 quad 2.93Ghz to end up with a 5,1 hex 3.46Ghz machine with a generation faster RAM. With a boot SSD, the difference is night/day, at least. It is the heart of a large Pro Tools HD system, using a Magma host card and chassis for HD6 DSP. The speed increase, reduced power and heat, and system stability were all very satisfying and completely changed my work. The old MacPros were the end of a golden era for Apple, when visionaries built hardware targeted to the customer, rather than max profit. I’m constantly surprised how few know the gold that exists in these amazingly forward thinking computers. When I did it 6 years ago, NVME was not available for it, and I thank you for the tip on the Sonnet adaptor. I have just today watched a Thunderbolt conversion for this machine, which I had resigned myself to ‘not possible ever’ acceptance. Looking into it as I write this.

@andrewchurch2471 6 месяцев назад

This is the best video I have ever seen concerning upgrades to the Mac Pro 4,1 and 5,1. That model was in my opinion the pinnacle of computer design. Form factor, connectivity, cooling system--simple, powerful, versatile, reliable. 12 years later computing has come a long way, but the fact is that a well built 5,1 remains a valuable workhorse. I keep one dedicated to running pro tools HD 11 in my recording studio, for me it is as timeless as any great piece of analog audio gear. Twin 2.66 GHz 6-core processors, 128 GB RAM, HDX card, UAudio UAD2 quad card. Soon I will upgrade to SSD drives, 1 boot and 3 in a RAID. I find it deeply satisfying and encouraging to know there are others out there who, like me, appreciate the lasting usefulness of this great computer that was sadly (and perhaps shortsightedly) discontinued over a decade ago. I know that Apple owns the designs and calculated the business metrics of continuing or discontinuing the product according to projections of diminishing profitability, but it is such a sublime piece of hardware, one that really should have enjoyed a longer period of production and support. Thank heavens for third party solutions that continue to make owning and operating our venerable cheese graters possible.

@Locky2701 Год назад

I have 2 Mac Pro mid 2012 ,6 cores 64 gigs of ram and 12 cores 128 gigs of ram,both running Monterey,RX580 and nvme raid zero Samsung 2X1tera,both are 3.46. Just bought a Mac mini M1 last year and is running Ventura. All the upgrades bought from OWC Very happy for my purchases

@Facedamuzik 11 месяцев назад

Are you doing audio recording on Monterey was looking to go that way any complications

@Locky2701 11 месяцев назад

@@Facedamuzik hi there,for photoshop I use Mac Pro and for audio I use Mac mini M1

@bsaorders 3 года назад

WOW - I've been doing computers for over 40 years ... that was one of the best presentations and explanations of equipment, upgrades, reasons (thought process), etc. I don't even own this computer (have worked on them) and enjoyed the content. Thank you. Glad to see you switched to the 3 bank memory setup. I was worried about the graphics card fan airflow (still worried if using video editing or gaming, not in your application use)

@Frank72364 Год назад

19:33 OMG. I am an idiot. I did read about that Y split power cable for GPU but I thought it was other way around. For GPU that needed two 8 pin cables. That changes everything. I use RX 580 and my Mac Pro shuts down under heavy load. But that way I can juice my GPU with double the power. Thank you so much for this. Now I most likely don’t have to do Pixlas mod.

@B_Vuv 3 года назад

I did the same upgrades a few years ago apart from the NVME drives. Like you I use my machine for DAW. It's been bullet proof and have never run out of horsepower.

@OldManFrank 3 года назад

*I've been thinking of switching from Windows to OSX by the end of the year; coming from a computer technician background the Mac Pro seems like the logical system for me to modify and truly make my own.*

@newt6639 3 года назад

@FroggyChef I am afraid we are seeing the end of these wonderful Macs.

@kurtpena5462 2 года назад

Nice Roland Space Echo!

@starsk13 3 года назад

Man, this Sonnet Nvme card !!! Thanks for the video

@overloadsound6661 2 года назад

un grand merci pour ces explications plus limpides pour moi car ici en Suisse et France personne ne vont aussi loin dans l'évolution des vieux Mac Pro !!merci aà la communauté anglophone !! a big thank you for these clearer explanations for me because here in Switzerland and France nobody goes so far in the evolution of the old Mac Pro !! thank you to the English-speaking community

@markspencer171 3 года назад

best video on this. Thank you. No flubbing around !

@edyantony4809 Месяц назад

Thanks times ten. Used your advice on what I could afford. Great looking studio. Great video. Cheers

@VincentBlack Год назад

Thank you so much! I was looking for an affordable way to edit and create graphics, heavy content for music and film. You saved me! I’m definitely gonna build a rig now.

@irawardmusic Год назад

Good video but there are some updates to this upgrade and I'd like to share them with you. Mac Pro 4,1 and 5,1 CPU's only support 3 channels of memory. If you put 4 channels in it, it run very poorly. You want to put 6 32GB memory chips in it. The delidded x5690's don't work well on the 2009 models because of heat problems. X5690's run at 130watts and need the lid to help in cooling and a whole bunch of variables and hardware that only are in the 2012 models. The best processor for this upgrade is x5675, they run at 85watts and in some cases out perform the x5690's. I wish I knew all of this before I spent way too much money down this rabbit hole LOL! Hope this helps, let me know if you need help :).

@irawardmusic Год назад

When you run x5690's on a 2009 and load it heavy, the computer will shut down. Do not put any processor in the 2009 models that uses more than 85watts and operates higher than 80°C. Just because you can do it doesn't mean that you should :). Apple didn't do it for a reason.

@ivanjuarez5613 3 года назад

Great video the only thing I would suggest for myself is writing down the serial numbers of the nvme drives so when you format them and install your software and create your raid you know which one goes to which and in case one fails you don't pull the wrong one or play a guessing game

@paperstreetaudiocompany 3 года назад

Good suggestion!

@scottharris7222 3 года назад

Just a comment, your cable management and organization in that space is top drawer. Content is also exceptionally well explained. Take me to school! Subscribed.

@FREZINO 3 года назад

Great Video :) A few thoughts of mine - using all 8 RAM slots actually will give one an inferior performance - tripple channel ie. 6 slots used in a dual xeon is considered the fastest. 1333 DDR 3 Ram is also advisable when going to from 4.1 to 5.1. I would have thought to place the thermal pad of the Sonnett Silent Card on top of the NVMe’s not underneath but I am not certain. The absolute best card out there. The Usb card ought to be 3.1 not 3.2.

@paperstreetaudiocompany 3 года назад

I have switched to triple channel for ram. It gets me every last drop of performance. The thermal material is between the board and the nvme, but there is that heat sync on top so there is something on both sides of the nvme drives. The USB naming conventions are a bit tricky. There were three USB3 varieties so far offering 5, then 10, and now 20 Gbps. This card offers the 20 Gbps hence being referred to as USB 3.2. www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/usb-3-2-explained-making-sense-of-current-and-confusing-usb-standard/

@whitepawrolls 2 года назад

This was something I was actually surprised about when I originally bought my 5,1 with only 2 sticks of ram in it. When researching the 5,1 I learned about the triple chanel thing and scratched my head wondering why they had 8 slots. Even so I only used the 6 slots for triple and now glad I did.

@FrustratedApe Год назад

@@whitepawrolls I think they have the 4/8 slots for Quad models to maximise their RAM ceiling but I do remember a Dell workstation that I had (T3500) had 6 slots...

@bglmlm 2 месяца назад

I have one 2009 Mac Pro & one 2010 Mac Pro!! very nice apple workstation. I install MacOS ventura 13.4 sucessfully on my 2010 Mac Pro by using OCLP.

@kungamusic 3 года назад

one of the greatest tech videos that is extremely helpful to people. Thank you fine sir.

@EmilioAyala 3 года назад

incredibly helpful, thank you!

@reynoldb69stang 3 года назад

This exactly what I did. I need 32bit for some legacy Yamaha software for my DM1000, so I new I was going to stay with the cheese grader. Happy for you great video!

@BuddyTerry. 3 года назад

Very nice thorough install video!! Starting my build soon and will be referencing this video repeatedly!

@martinroskilly9994 2 года назад

Yes me too, it’s a great project and what this old machine can upgrade to is good enough at this time unless you’re trying to animate an entire Disney Movie.

@the_grand_tourer 3 года назад

I'm in the beginnings of starting this process, watching vids on You Tube. Yours is one of the most complete ... but not spending as much as you are !! (8 x 4gb rams e.g.), the point for me is upgrade within a price that's well below buying an new machine. The tip about flashing the GPU for the Mac startup screen is useful. Thanks.

@claudiobezerra6684 3 года назад

Thank you for this information!

@alexfinns6162 Год назад

I upgraded my original Mac Pro 5,1 that I found in a dumpster to almost full spec (only the ram isn’t at the maximum capacity as I don’t need that much ram). On this, I replaced the stock bootloader with OpenCore and got MacOS Monterey working!

@DonalLeader 11 месяцев назад

Brilliant presentation and so comprehensive

@marc8vino 3 года назад

Thank You. Great Video and response. Someone should go into business updated these Macs to top current specs.

@jingjingcoming 3 года назад

I did some research to upgrade this 2010 mac pro, and I try to put 2 GPU into it and I think the final cut pro will use dual GPU and the render time will be reduced. just as you said , extreme upgrade.:) very glad to see you do the same upgrade as me. Cheers!

@ggonxhi 11 месяцев назад

I would put that SSD on the first slot and video card on the second. You are killing the video card airflow with that card on top.

@jeffsims7386 3 года назад

Cool name, reminds me of a thing I can’t discuss due to rule #1 and rule #2…

@Fundaykidzz Месяц назад

Sweet !! Great video … I’ve done 5-6 of these and record with garage band … just got a 2008 A1180 EMC 2180 for 20$ from neighbors garage sale

@drwavenstein Год назад

" Super Video Bro !!! "

@stewsmith3536 Год назад

This is an outstanding video! Super Solid in every way

@MITTEL.PUNKT_13 3 года назад

Thank you sir. Propz from germany

@methoomethoo Год назад

Thank you so much we all appreciate your presentation it’s wonderful

@herbmailey2779 4 месяца назад

Excellent video

@WCharles9272 2 года назад

professional presentation, great and smooth content, well done sir

@SteveAaron 9 месяцев назад

Nice video. However, there is one thing you overlooked, and that is the 2032 battery. You put a CR2032 in place of a BR2032. The BR2032 is a rechargeable battery, whereas the CR2032 is not. As a result, the CR2032 will get damaged over time, because the circuitry around it will always attempt to charge it by applying current to it. I don't know if you're still using this machine, but if you are, you should definitely replace that battery with the proper one.

@paperstreetaudiocompany 3 года назад

I am currently running 96 GB of ram to see if the benefits of triple channel are better than the benefits of more ram. As 96 GB of ram is enough for my usage I’m likely to stay in triple channel to get its speed increase. There are two possible areas to explore to go further with upgrades on a similar Mac Pro (that I opted not to pursue) OpenCore on the Mac Pro allows for things like video acceleration, seeing the boot screen with unfleshed video cards, and running even newer OS's. It's widely supported and appears to work well. I tried it for some time but opted against it for my final configuration. More powerful GPUs. There are more powerful video options available, but most also require more power from the computer and the pixlas mod allows you to get the power to run them. If you need more video power it's an option. I opted to stick to a powerful enough video card that doesn't need a mod to get power, and more powerful video cards really jump up in price. So that’s where I drew the line in this one. The firmware update was easy and immediately helpful for general computing. OpenCore and the Pixlas mod were worth mentioning here but not things I’m going to pursue.

@trelstudios3068 3 года назад

When you pull up the about this Mac and look at your ram memory does it say that you are running at 1066 MHz or 1333 MHz? When running in triple channel 96 GB you simply left dim slot number four and slot number eight empty correct?

@paperstreetaudiocompany Год назад

@@trelstudios3068 it’s definitely running at 1333

@skip741x3 9 месяцев назад

great vid with a ton of info shared! its a real pity that the nvme card is so expensive, more alone than what ive got in the entire 5,1 dual cpu computer...if they were cheap on the used market, they would be a cool upgrade for many people

@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur Год назад

That ssd card is a very interesting product. holding that many NVME@ ssd's and to put 3 in raid must mean projects load incredibly fast, with 128gb ram.

@jangerhard4039 Год назад

I'd also changed the BT antennas to external versions. May not look sexy, but BT performance is way better.

@chrismediachannel1812 Год назад

I use a dual Xeon Computer as DAW, too. 👍

@soviet9922 Год назад

using my 5,1 now, got it in 2011. And now is maxed out to 128gb.

@quma001 3 года назад

I did a similar upgrade with my 5,1. One issue I had was overheating (red blinking LED) on the motherboard when doing renderings with 100% usage of all 12 cores. Would be interesting if your machine does the same as those X5690 CPU's have 130 W TDP. (the fastest 5,1 12-core from Apple had only 3.06GHZ at 95 W TDP.) I had to increase the speed of the fans with Macs Fan Control to cool them down, which makes the computer louder.

@rbnjr Год назад

I installed my gpu in a breakout box to offload the power and heat from it. same cpu's with a radeon 64 gpu. no overheating.

@whitepawrolls 2 года назад

Great upgrades for the mac pro, but you did say one thing wrong, and I have seen a LOT of mac pro 5,1 owners say this "You can't boot from a raid drive" This is wrong. I currently have 2 256gb ssd's in my 2010 5,1 as raid 0 boot. The trick to this is to install your system on a single drive as you normally would (not one of your raid drives). Then install the raid drives you want to use, and in osx set them up as normal. All this is the normal stuff. NOW to get to boot from raid 0 drive use carbon copy cloner to clone your original boot drive to the raid drive. Once that's done shut down, remove the original single drive, and startup. The mac will then boot from the raid 0. One note is if your running strick pure mac pro you probibly don't have the boot rom update to boot from NVME same as me. I'm using SATA based ssd's (dual m.2 based on a single pcie card). I have also duplicated this with 2 180gb mechanical drives just in the drive slots to make sure it booting isn't a fluke with my dual card. Although slow it did boot from the mechanical drive raid 0. If someone has the NVME mod and wants to try this too I'd be curious to see if a raid 0 NVME boot works the same.

@skip741x3 Год назад

True bro...I did same with high sierra and raid 0 BUT whats not mentioned is the raid has to be HFS as you wont be able to boot apfs raid 0...at least, i couldnt LOL .. and i checked all over the web!...issues with raid 0 on hfs is system works fine but no updates or else your system will be unbootable...

@whitepawrolls Год назад

@@skip741x3 I don't remember as I quit using that mac shortly after I posted that when I got a 2013 mac pro, but I was running mojave on mine, and didn't have an issue with updates. Not sure how you had yours setup if you were just running drives in the drive bays or not, but I had a dual sata 3 based m.2 card that both my drives were on

@paperstreetaudiocompany 3 года назад

I just thought to mention that I put a little rubber washer between the video card and Sonnet M.2 card because the RX580 fans stick out a bit and I didn’t want them to rub on the M.2 card.

@trelstudios3068 3 года назад

Thanks for this! I was wondering how you did that. I’m going to go and re-configure mine now. I had my video card in slot 2 and sacrificed a pcie slot. How is it working today? And issues?

@paperstreetaudiocompany 3 года назад

All is working nicely.

@DouglasDubler3 10 месяцев назад

One correction. The Mac Pro 2019 will take 128 Gb but only recognize 96. I upgraded two of mine. Also putting the SSD in the slow SATA slots I think is a waste. I think the connectors for the SuperDrives would give you more speed. I am using Iocrest PCIE card With 2 Crucial gen4 2 TB NVME and getting 2800 read and write. Not bad for a 14 year old computer...

@daylightfullday Год назад

JAN 20, 2023 ~ Hi, your video is the third I've watch on upgrading a Mac Pro Tower, and THE BEST (most informative) video yet. I really appreciate the extensive explanations. Nothing left out but the approximate total cost spent on your upgrades. Also, it's been a year since you created the video. Are there any NEW editions of cpu, ram or video cards you might install now had they existed a year ago (Jan 2022)? Or anything you wished you had installed instead? There's always new products released and I'd prefer to install the most recent and highest upgrade of components as possible. Or... do you believe that the Mac Pro 5,1 that you upgraded hits the ceiling, upgraded as far it can get? One more thing, wondering if you have had any issues since, or additional firmware, OS upgrades etc. Thanks for any reply or additional, related videos.

@paperstreetaudiocompany Год назад

I just looked and some of the things I choose got even more expensive with parts shortages and such. Wow

@jackdanulsprime2077 Год назад

I know this video is 2 years old, but that picture that was shown is not a 5,1 cpu tray, it's a 4,1. The cpu's were de-lidded and there are no cpu clamps. I 5,1 has cpu clamps and uses lidded cpu's.

@skip741x3 9 месяцев назад

I dont know why the vid was titled 2009 5,1... should have been 4,1 if 2009... probably just a slip up.

@deebaker4671 2 года назад

Great video !!!

@thefattmish 5 месяцев назад

I've never heard the older Mac Pro systems called Cheese Graters. I thought was just the new ones. Hmm.

@djfreddagreat 3 года назад

Thank you for the info! just got a 2012 5,1. Like you doing Audio (light video). This is very helpful. Have you done any benchmark tests, before and after?

@Spartanm333 3 года назад

Yes I have on the GPU and drives. The biggest significant boost if you need that is putting the OS on a 6GB SSD via a PCi card - note not the internal bays on a sled as they are restricted to 3GBs (whatever your SSD does). This gives you a slick boot and fast Finder response. Then for you data get 4 identical HDDs 7200 RPM and reliable (over 10,000 RPM and fragile) and soft RAID them to double the internal 3GBs to 6GBs for data read and write. This will easily be enough for audio and video. If you want to go mental like this fella, you can double this again by using 4 x SSDs on a PCi card, but really, I don't think you will need this unless you are launching a space shuttle. Video card - again, a lot of fluff I find. You are not gaming so a 4 or 8GB RX580 by MSi will be fine. Despite this video, I have never needed more than 32 GB Ram although feel free to add more and have 20 apps open at once. Again, quality over size because if the RAM fails you can have multiple issues including a failure to boot at all... rendering diagnostics etc redundant. Lots of links on the web to help - we have been doing this for 11 years now.

@JosefFerger 3 года назад

well done ! Thank you

@YarrEngineer 3 года назад

You should also probably also use the nvme as startup disk runs everything a bit faster

@paperstreetaudiocompany 3 года назад

Yes My startup drive and projects drive are NVME and that's where it made a big difference

@deebaker4671 2 года назад

@@paperstreetaudiocompany So you can use the NVME drive as a boot up disk, I thought there was an upgrade of firmware to make this happen. I want to to use the 4 bays with the SSD drives and use just one NVME drive for my boot drive. Are there are other single NVME adapters that can be used as a boot up drive on a MP 5,1 ?

@georgwalt7978 Год назад

ditched the 5,1 and switched to PC, best move ever til avid are fully M1 native (ca 2099)

@oscarcampbellhobson Год назад

19:20 I know for a fact on a 5.1 those ports are MINI six pin not six pin, but I don’t know on the 4.1 cmp

@jingjingcoming 3 года назад

awesome.

@larryvaughn5843 Год назад

What about a thunderbolt card?

@gibblsworthiscool 3 года назад

run tripple channel memory. Its way faster than running all 8 slots

@paperstreetaudiocompany 3 года назад

I have dropped to 96 GB and am running triple channel now in order to eek out every last bit of performance. I’m not sure it’s a huge difference but I’ll take any performance gains.

@skip741x3 Год назад

@@paperstreetaudiocompany its noticeable

@donhowell3372 2 года назад

Just Add OpenCore Boot Loader w/ MacPro Config.Plist .. No need to get MacUpgrade GPU ... Boot Screen and GPU acceleration ....also you can install 2 SSD's or HDD's up in the Optical Bay area. ... then Run Big Sur

@trustme2001 3 года назад

Those cheese grater are bulletproof.

@K9Compton 7 месяцев назад

thanks any new updates

@johnprivate6625 2 года назад

Surprised you didn't do the pixalus electrical upgrade, to power the graphics card without stressing the motherboard. this involves tapping into the high current 12 volt supply cables before the motherboard, and running high current extensions to the cards 8 pin (or dual six pin) socket. the tap can be done by utilising clip on taps which cut the insulation but not the wire. (solder is not an option due to the current carried -not unless you have very high temp solder and real skill). this protects both the motherboard, and your graphics card. note: the typical graphics card extensions sold by third parties, and Apples own cables are are too thin, have not enough copper to carry the current over the extended length of cable to fully power modern high powered graphics cards. the std. graphics cables off the motherboard headers are only rated to a total of 75W, each which is also the limit of the mother board. Giving a card total (with the power via PCIe slot) of just 300 watts. However the power supply can easily even at 10 years old still supply a total of a reliable 800w (originally 970W), and with modern energy efficient CPUs, and SSDs these items power draw is lowered so you can still put high powered graphics in place some times as much as 600W. Know this electrical hardware mod was not on your list, but it is a good idea to maximise the lifespan of your motherboard. especially for those seeking max graphics power. but maybe the sapphire 580 doesn"t draw that much power. based on your build, the limiting factor for your hardware will now be bus and CPU interconnect. worth considering when you did the CPU upgrade is repasting the Northbridge. if you use a temperature monitor app, check that the Northbridge is sitting at 74ºC. if you do wish to repast your north bridge do make sure to buy replacement sprung mounting pins before attempting to do so. they break very easily. nicely done upgrade. envy those NVMe drives.my 4,1 got most of these upgrades, and mined crypto at 94% CPU, 110% Gpu (gtx1080) for 18 months before it became uneconomic. performance wise it was easily comparable to the base 2018 Mac Pro in some contexts but was limited by the bus and the by then old graphics. I strongly recommend the flashed MAcVidCards if you plan to dual boot the Mac, otherwise booting becomes a weird kind of magic, counting carefully timed keystrokes and hoping.

@codychoe 3 года назад

No thunderbolt upgrade!

@paperstreetaudiocompany 3 года назад

The only way to get Thunderbolt seems a bit dicey. Here is some info on that. www.pro-tools-expert.com/production-expert-1/2020/2/28/thunderbolt-3-on-mac-pro-51-cheese-grater-one-step-closer?format=amp

@PiDsPagePrototypes Год назад

24:58 - Annnd, pauses,... Any special tips on getting the OS to write data at that speed? I have a 5.1, same 3.46GHz processors, system on a SATA SSD, with an OWC Accelsior 4M2 and Samsung M.2 drives, the M.2's are faster as individual disks then they are as Raid Zero. Take the same 4M2 card, drop in to MSI X99A SLI Plus board with i7-5820, and I get faster Raid Zero then what you've shown here. I have a Kona4 card, looking for performance for Uncompressed Raw DNG's for video.

@jpguthrie6669 2 года назад

I have a similar setup which I put together a couple of years ago. Your NVME adapter seems to be sitting on top of the fans in your video card, you don't have any problems with it running hot?

@user-sidebay.forever Год назад

I have a question? So you purchased the video card from Mac vids and they also flashed it for you.

@paperstreetaudiocompany Год назад

Yes, it was the appeal of buying from them as it came ready to rock right from the box

@olesolja1407 3 года назад

Enjoyed it indeed. So one question I have is, if decided to go this route, would I have any conflict with space for an Avid HDX card? I noticed that you put an UAD card in the last slot. Do you think an Avid HDX card would fit in that same slot on a mid 2012 5.1? Or would I need to put it on one of the first two slots, which would propose a problem. Thanks in advance and thanks for posting such a great video on this.

@drwavenstein Год назад

"I have the same cmptr Mac Pro 5,1 mid 2010 w/dual xeon x5690 processors (oc Monterey). My question: is there a way overclock cpu to their maximum turbo-speed of 3.733ghz?"

@andrewmanning8297 Год назад

Hi, I enjoyed watching your video. I see that you are really in the audio. What would you recommend to turn the 5,1 into a high fidelity music platform to get the best sound? I have a lot of FLAC and AICC music. Thank you Andrew

@davewk58 2 года назад

I saw nothing about firmware updating which I understand is ESSENTIAL to the MAC ROM's recognizing the computer as 5,1 instead of 4,1. I already spent a $grand on updating to processors and newer RAM but my ROM still only recognizes my Mac as 4,1 (early 2009). Unfortunately, the upgrade still sticks me at 4,1 and without a firmware update, I can't complete the progression. Such a firmware update risks all sorts of installed cards. It sounds very risky to me to purchase $$$$ new video and network and Bluetooth cards that the old ROM firmware won't support. I'm also concerned about the FAN situation that leaves a lot of upgrades with a situation with cooling fans running amok. I'm still stuck with an online hack that moved me up to High Sierra but that's as high as a I can go with risking the whole thing. I have done a TON of manual upgrades on Macs over 30 + years but several of the things you slide past give me great pause as I risk all the hardware I have and can't afford to lose or replace. I appreciate your videos and I use several macs for DAW as well as programming so I recommend others in my situation take care.

@paperstreetaudiocompany 2 года назад

thehouseofmoth.com/turning-a-2009-41-mac-pro-into-a-2010-2012-51-mac-pro-2021-edition/ Yes, firmware updating to 5,1 is important and easy to do

@olegnesterov3467 Год назад

Perfect upgrade! Do you get 2 icons on a desktop (boot drive and storage) or only one?

@richnorris1061 8 месяцев назад

Thermal pad wrong side of drives dude , it’s to transfer heat to heat sink :-)

@paperstreetaudiocompany 8 месяцев назад

www.sonnettech.com/support/downloads/manuals/sonnet_m2_4x4_pcie_card-ss_qsg.pdf Everything was done according to the manufacturers instructions. Ask Sonnet I suppose,

@MaxSebastien Год назад

Wait, why you say, you can not use a RAID drive as a start ( boot ) drive ?

@Drakus79 2 года назад

Does having the Sonnet so close to the Video card plan cause heating issues? I was thinking of doing this with my mac but I'm worried about having them so close to each other.

@larcolt 2 года назад

Thank you for your fine presentation! Will you be upgrading to Monterey by way of either OpenCore or Clover or will be be keeping your machine OS native at Mojave?

@moetarded7757 3 года назад

My sonnet hit the fan blades. It was a bummer 👎

@romeroromero7078 2 года назад

hola realize todo los cambio pero al colocar el cable poder se enciende luz led OVTMP CPU A and OVTMP CPU B y no prende ayudaaaaaa

@barrythemandouglas7077 11 дней назад

I can’t find the dual 6pin to 8pin power cable for my 580 graphics card.

@paperstreetaudiocompany 11 дней назад

www.amazon.com/Adapter-Braided-Sleeved-Computer-Graphics/dp/B08FXVDM8S/ref=asc_df_B08FXVDM8S/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=692875362841&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16852744754816095214&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9014968&hvtargid=pla-2281435177658&psc=1&mcid=c0094acee1fe3a1cba375502a819b32d&hvocijid=16852744754816095214-B08FXVDM8S-&hvexpln=73 I -think- this is correct.

@clems6belio Год назад

Hey there, thanks for this video, looking to do some similar upgrades to my mac pro. What kind of speed do you get from your raid nvme now ? It's still only pcie 2 so I'm guessing that has to be the bottleneck, not the drives. 1000Mo/s ? More ?

@paperstreetaudiocompany Год назад

It’s a big improvement over the original. It’s was reporting something like 3800/s on the M.2 drives and that’s working great for me. I’m sure that the drives themselves can go faster, but it makes working on this machine feel the same as most modern macs.

@Vocalisto 3 года назад

I've got also an old classic Mac Pro from 2009 in standard konfiguration. But I'm just wondering if it really does make sense to upgrade this old machine in 2021?? If I want to upgrade this machine to maximum I've got to spend easily over a 1000 Bucks and maybe in two years Apple don't support Intel Macs with new Updates any more... who knows.. Isn't it better to spend the money on the new Apple Silicon Macs? I'm waiting for the upcoming Macbook Pro 16' M1X and will see if I can replace my cMP with it.

@ifiwantyoutofeel 3 года назад

Have you taught about using the new m1 mac's 🤔 they essentially best all thee 5,1 Mac pros. In most cases

@tinshedprooldvideosfootage695 Год назад

Can I do this on a Mac Pro (Early 2008)? 2 x 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 12 GB 800 MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM, ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB

@skozzy1968 Год назад

Never owned an apple pc, seeing stuff like this makes me wonder if the costs for such an old machine are worth it, but sure look fun to make an old clunker into a faster machine and beat apple at their own game of forcing you to replace everything and contributing to e-waste

@tonyb2760 2 года назад

Are you still using this machine and how is or did it perform so far? Thanks for sharing

@deebaker4671 2 года назад

So the 970 Evo Plus didn't give you any issues ? In the Definitive Mac Pro user guide, it says that 970 Evo Plus was incompatible.

@Sector001ked 9 месяцев назад

Are there any Quadro cards that can be used instead of an RX580?

@rodrevs5666 Год назад

Hello and what’s the best solution for the fans overload, any fix for a normal behavior after the cpus upgrade, my fans are overload and before the upgrade never did it, so please tell me what’s next to do, thanks a lot great videos

@marc8vino 3 года назад

For just Audio Protools and Virtual instruments does upgrading a video card really make a difference? I have the original video card. However, I upgraded my 2009 through OWC ( I sent it in for the processors) and it seems to work great. I'll have to look into upgrading the firmware and OS to utilize Nvme. It works great with the upgrades but maybe it can be even better? Currently I have 2 x 3.32 Quad Core, 128G ram, PCIe 2TB 2.5 Mercury Extreme start up + 1TB Accelsior Pro Q 2x as fast as the 2.5 ssd PCIe. + 2TB backup in tray 3G 2.5 + 1TB backup for Accel in tray 2.5 SSD. Still on OS El Cap 10.11.6 to work with my Protools / interface set up. I wonder if upgrading the firmware would make a difference or just keep working this for 3 more years then do a full upgrade?

@paperstreetaudiocompany 3 года назад

I got a new video card for metal support in order to run Mojave, but a more modest card would be fine for me and anyone else doing audio. I was able to get the 580 at a good price but they seem to be far more expensive today so I can understand the reluctance to pay the weird prices for them. It doesn’t effect my audio work at all really. I’m using a 34 inch 4K tv as my video monitor and running it at 2k resolution as that suits me. Plenty of video cards can do that.

@Jonas-r1f Месяц назад

Sonnet Sonnet. Can i use the first nvme as the system drive with big sur and the second nvme as a raid drive?

@Taras-Nabad 7 месяцев назад

So the 970 evo works well?

@Byrnyngman 2 года назад

This is probably a dumb question... Could you run 4 32gb sticks to get 128gb of RAM while retaining triple (quadruple?) channel for a performance boost?

@maxpoppler9604 3 года назад

How much was the budget here? The sonnet nvme card is $400! Love my Mac pro though

@fabioguida80 3 года назад

Aggiornando l'hardware (CPU GPU RAM) e portarla al massimo, si riesce ad effettuare l'aggiornamento Ufficiale Software della Apple?

@elfocorojoproducciones8235 2 года назад

Hello, congratulations for sharing your experience with the mac pro 2009, I just want to update mine, I would like to ask you about the processor, I see that the link you shared on ebay mentions that they have removed IHS to avoid damage from over-squeezing since it is very dangerous, my question is how was your experience the processor does not affect the operation because they have removed the IHS ??????

@paperstreetaudiocompany 2 года назад

thehouseofmoth.com/the-differences-between-the-41-and-51-mac-pro/