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2009 WCG Grand Final Second day: StarCraft match: Stork vs Fengz 

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2009 WCG Grand Final Second day: StarCraft match: Stork vs Fengz

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@Kcusnza
@Kcusnza 14 лет назад
Man i'd love to hear the Korean stream when the commentator goes nuts at 15:05
@Jonsse
@Jonsse 14 лет назад
Great commentators, great game! Thank you.
@clv603
@clv603 14 лет назад
@1986dts apm is actions per minute, clicks, right clicks, keyboard actions, etc. build order is the method of which a player constructs buildings according to resource count and time elapsed.
@meangreen8873
@meangreen8873 9 лет назад
Why does he keep building lings vs zealots and archons, what a stupid strategy.
@yELoHQ
@yELoHQ 14 лет назад
@wintensity To think of new build orders vs certain match ups. A typical pylon/gateway/cybernetics core isn't that great and can be easily countered by a zerg rush.... therefore making new build orders to counter that takes awhile. You need to perfect the timing of when to build certain buildings, etc.
@brainwasher9876
@brainwasher9876 14 лет назад
@donylee: the important thing about a nexus is that not only can they produce probes but that you need them to get resources. Nexus take a very long time to build; by losing that nexus, he would have lost a lot of time that would have been spent on getting resources. Those extra resources may have been a deciding factor in winning or losing the game.
@LEVIDAVIS420
@LEVIDAVIS420 14 лет назад
@1986dts apm is called actions per minute basically meaning how many diverse moves can you control in you minute such as making a units moving units hot keying attacking microing/macroing and after you calcualte all that you get an apm scale when i plat tft my apm hovers around 130-150 apm pros are like in the 200s
@ppshchik
@ppshchik 14 лет назад
@Tuvitob Micro is not all about speed, about stability and precision as well, that's why sometimes you see lower apm players having better micro than insanely high apm players. Having lower apm also makes you think tactically.
@xhackmasterx
@xhackmasterx 13 лет назад
@chazliez88 thanx
@almightyhydra
@almightyhydra 14 лет назад
Ah, the new 3 hatch spire into 5 hatch zergling build :) Any chance the video could actually be audio-synced? The audio is ~1.5 sec ahead of the video. On the Korean version the difference was nearly 5 seconds. -.-
@donylee
@donylee 14 лет назад
Hey guys, I am a Starcraft newbie here, really want to learn the game. Can someone explain to me briefly the importance of taking down Stork's second Nexus at about 8:30pm. I mean it's only aids production. I don't see the major disadvantage of the Protoss player if he simply cancels the Nexus, recovers the money, go Gateway or cannons for defense, and then rebuilt it.
@Karthor21
@Karthor21 13 лет назад
'THE NEXUS IS UNDER PRESSURE!!!!' I LMAO'd at that for no reason at all :D
@LLlap
@LLlap 14 лет назад
great commentators. rly a pity for Fengzi - that early probe + lings were awesome
@c2thew
@c2thew 14 лет назад
man those zealots were spartans from 300!
@elcusamonaguisho
@elcusamonaguisho 12 лет назад
what is the first song please?
@kirecry
@kirecry 14 лет назад
@VanNucksFan19 It`s no matter is there any exercises or self-development. Sport is all about CHALLENGE.
@wintensity
@wintensity 14 лет назад
what does it mean to take a month to make build orders?
@DeadbeatXT
@DeadbeatXT 14 лет назад
Do you know how much they practice? They play about twelve hours a day at about 300-400APM and they have to think about every move their opponent makes. And on top of that, many of them get about an hour of physical exercise a day.
@TayV510
@TayV510 14 лет назад
what map is this
@bhaalicr
@bhaalicr 13 лет назад
game starts at 4:30
@dawnofdarken
@dawnofdarken 14 лет назад
GG!
@biggiedickson
@biggiedickson 11 лет назад
Amazing at sitting down alone for 15 hours at a time.
@thimy69
@thimy69 14 лет назад
@brainwasher9876 you got a point. Fengz should have finished the Nexus plus he left some scourges on auto-chase and killed by cannons.
@Blueist
@Blueist 14 лет назад
The really need to organize these videos better. It's impossible to find anything in the wcg profile.
@singapore11
@singapore11 14 лет назад
@CelestialGamer who are u talking to?
@jinjeong323
@jinjeong323 11 лет назад
plus, he was too unsure of himself. He was thinking 'should I get the hydras or the spdlings?' and when he finally decided, it was too late.
@Xienis
@Xienis 14 лет назад
@OjFarm Because Stork is always calm, he knows what hes capable of and thinks 10 turns ahead, he probably had numerous backup plans ready if that nexus fell. And with the way Fengz played this game, even if he managed to take out that Nexus in that first attack, he probably still would of lost with all the stupid moves he made, letting the macro do his fighting for him.
@TwiShy27
@TwiShy27 11 лет назад
I didn't understand a single thing. :) How does Starcraft work? what have I done?
@Zyborg23
@Zyborg23 14 лет назад
what's an epm player?
@jessicaSNSD111
@jessicaSNSD111 12 лет назад
korea is the #1 country in starcraft, idk why i would be proud of this... we're amazing at games i guess... lol
@DarkApocalypse25
@DarkApocalypse25 12 лет назад
It's weird, the Build Fengzi Went is actually a current build in sc2. HHA
@thescoutabout
@thescoutabout 11 лет назад
North Korea would just cannon rush their main.
@jinjeong323
@jinjeong323 11 лет назад
That is excatly why the fog in the game is so important.
@blackhand95
@blackhand95 13 лет назад
@hemptime123 ? econimy?
@xLuky
@xLuky 14 лет назад
"he does not have a ice cubes chance on a hot summer day"
@brainwasher9876
@brainwasher9876 14 лет назад
@ppshchik I understand that there was a lot of pressure, but attack move should be reflexive at this level. I play amateur and I've yet to see anyone make a mistake like this.
@101Killer1010
@101Killer1010 13 лет назад
@MrMattyjjohnson I think destination =D
@Chakrila
@Chakrila 14 лет назад
giving the googly-eyes to his monitor... lmao legend commentators
@sharki9876
@sharki9876 14 лет назад
@Raziel1818 ah, pardon me. i didnt know you had already taken your Happy Pills =))
@LimusBeanusRex
@LimusBeanusRex 14 лет назад
I would like to see the commentators as more reserved
@Tuvitob
@Tuvitob 14 лет назад
@ppshchik thats why i wrote at least 300. have u seen 150 apm player winning with 300?=] hi-apm is a habit, they dont think about making drones etc. they think tactically too.
@reallysecretusername
@reallysecretusername 14 лет назад
storks hair in this vid looks really funny...
@Ryuzaki6006
@Ryuzaki6006 14 лет назад
good
@dmsthf9
@dmsthf9 13 лет назад
LOL he finally makes a mutalisk at the end of the game
@ppshchik
@ppshchik 14 лет назад
@brainwasher9876 Playing on a main stage and pressure are a huge factor. Fengzi was the champion of China but he admitted that he lacked experiences in big tournaments like that that's why PJ did better although he took 3rd place.
@Whallean88
@Whallean88 14 лет назад
Yours is, How abou that!
@chrislawson1233
@chrislawson1233 8 лет назад
Dude, Fengzi had a spire, resources in the bank... He could have easily popped out some mutas and the zealots wouldn't be able to do anything about it. Instead, he kept spending minerals on lings, letting his gas get over 1000, and got his butt destroyed.
@ifkevinful
@ifkevinful 14 лет назад
Lol, what if during the game the connection was lost?
@shilelea
@shilelea 13 лет назад
@Raziel1818 and the US has 50 states....
@stimpackedmarines
@stimpackedmarines 14 лет назад
@NinjaSpartanThe yeah but you should hope in another game other than SC =P because no one else really has a chance other than the Koreans.
@saintlime
@saintlime 14 лет назад
@ifkevinful draw or rematch
@ppshchik
@ppshchik 14 лет назад
@stimpackedangelking not really, PJ defeated Savior and got 2nd place whilst a Russian player eliminated a Korean and got into the finals. Koreans aren't invincible.
@halomast799
@halomast799 13 лет назад
@shadowhearth1986 sc2 only been out for a month or 2
@ppshchik
@ppshchik 13 лет назад
@Baddieko Fengzi is not am amateur, he's B Teamer level for sure. He's taken down some Koreans during PGL 2008.
@yushis1
@yushis1 14 лет назад
he was just saying he likes to cheer for the underdog
@VanNucksFan19
@VanNucksFan19 14 лет назад
@eprod90 a true sport requires excercise...
@aaronszechter3771
@aaronszechter3771 11 лет назад
I don't have much BW experience, but... couldn't Fengzi just make hydras and with combo ling hydra snipe that nexus easily?
@kogumaro
@kogumaro 14 лет назад
@VanNucksFan19 cyber games require more thinking than most sports :D
@LiquidT3nsion
@LiquidT3nsion 14 лет назад
@EddddwinL is not racist they all look the same just different nationality
@Whallean88
@Whallean88 14 лет назад
@sicillankiller what's stupid?
@Greenluigipower1
@Greenluigipower1 14 лет назад
His face seem to say that he's Artosys.
@RedSkye87
@RedSkye87 14 лет назад
@julesickdrums GOOOOOOAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL
@Tuvitob
@Tuvitob 14 лет назад
They said that is not so important to have hi-apm. so we now see it is - low apm=wasting scourges/drones/lings in stupid way maybe not important to have 400+ apm but at least 300...
@yOsHiBrO
@yOsHiBrO 14 лет назад
You know you're going to lose when your opponents zealots outnumber your zerglings.
@x3azn4
@x3azn4 14 лет назад
boxer already got that
@I1am1one
@I1am1one 14 лет назад
@TayV510 de_dust 2
@aaronszechter3771
@aaronszechter3771 11 лет назад
Do you think China will just leave them?
@phillipjoonkang
@phillipjoonkang 10 лет назад
I didn't understand why fengzi didnt produce defiler...using dark swarm would make stork be in trouble.. 근데 송병구는 진짜 컴퓨터랑 하는거같다..ㅋㅋ
@birdwraith5224
@birdwraith5224 9 лет назад
송병구는 질럿 등의 근거리 유닛과 드라군을 섞어서 꺼냈습니다. 다크 스웜은 원거리를 견제하는 건데 주로 테란에게 쓰입니다. 따라서 아무리 스웜을 쓴다 해도 질럿에 의해 다 순살치킨 될 것입니다.
@dRoy8364
@dRoy8364 8 лет назад
+Bird Wraith 순살치킨 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 정말 찰지네요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@digimon969
@digimon969 13 лет назад
Woot! Stork is just so good o.O Although China might've won if he killed the nexus =P
@aaronszechter3771
@aaronszechter3771 11 лет назад
Dude, are you kidding me? Good players know exactly what opponent player can have at the moment. They know things like "if he goes nexus first, he won't have units early on". Fengz had to know that Stork has only cannons... They're not fucking noobs...
@Jaquarian5
@Jaquarian5 14 лет назад
@infestedbigmac @infestedbigmac boxer doesn't play any games these days. because his play is much worse than before. He's such a old player and I don't know why, but Korean SC player's lifespan as a player is quite short I think. I feel really bad for him since he was one of my favorite player. Hope he'll come back someday.
@jeronimoalende
@jeronimoalende 13 лет назад
I think this clearle show how mental blocks can be hard wen u play Sc fengz its so much intimidated to this KR pr player that he get all sllawpy and end up making a bunch of lings on mid game that wont worst to shit but at the opening he had all chances he only showld keep atacking the nexus and forget speed but u can see the pressure on him this shit makes me sad :(
@AwsomeOblivion
@AwsomeOblivion 14 лет назад
lol ShwangShwing you might want to do some reasearch most of the US debt in internal
@clv603
@clv603 14 лет назад
@shuangxing66 most of those actions are just from habit and really don't mean anything. a lot of the pros just do it just to do it.
@krbosak
@krbosak 13 лет назад
@Halobenzene Really? If this would matter for any military, a pack of scientist would write drone micronavigation algortihm that would outrun all the manual keystrokes the best korean player would ever do.
@ppshchik
@ppshchik 14 лет назад
@brainwasher9876 All pros make amateur mistakes sometimes. This guy is the guy who got 1st place in WCG China if he's really that amateur then he shouldn't have gone that far to the WCG world tournament. As the home champion with thousands for local audiences I won't doubt that you'll make indecisive mistakes due to pressure.
@Imbalancja
@Imbalancja 14 лет назад
actually not, boxer already did it
@Dmirtao
@Dmirtao 14 лет назад
Panda Bears.
@Raziel1818
@Raziel1818 14 лет назад
@p0werf00L yes u were trying to act mature ... i mean ur contradicting the obvious how can u say u weren't trying to act ? and u felt the urge to speak ur mind just like i felt the urge to speak my mind about the whole eu vs us.
@bahaa2ahmed
@bahaa2ahmed 12 лет назад
SPOILER ALERT this is a video
@pokinpoop
@pokinpoop 13 лет назад
f it, they dont have a starcraft 2 yet?
@ferrariimsorry
@ferrariimsorry 9 лет назад
This is the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen
@DBSKFahrenheit
@DBSKFahrenheit 11 лет назад
North Korea is more of a liability than an Asset. China basically doesn't want North Korea to fall because if it does, South Korea, Japan and US can line their troops right next to the Chines Border and will be that much closer to Beijing
@VanNucksFan19
@VanNucksFan19 14 лет назад
@eprod90 not a real sport like hockey and football...its more of a game then a sport
@PhrozenFox
@PhrozenFox 14 лет назад
I hate the mineral ramp thing, it's a gimmick that requires you to hack the map, and it shouldn't be allowed in professional tournies.
@singapore11
@singapore11 14 лет назад
PANDA!!!!!!!
@vn050290
@vn050290 14 лет назад
even 2 in a row
@keef920
@keef920 14 лет назад
@ShwangShwing if china stopped lending to the US, the US would stop buying from them and it would be a huge blow to both economies
@Gazonkie
@Gazonkie 14 лет назад
dude at 15:05........ take it easy buddy
@johnamend-all1084
@johnamend-all1084 8 лет назад
Young Stork.? Muekeke) Now Stork old korean man
@aaronszechter3771
@aaronszechter3771 11 лет назад
Oh really? Like I didn't know it...
@SovietSammy
@SovietSammy 13 лет назад
wheres the american badass
@ethanjensen661
@ethanjensen661 5 лет назад
They keep mispronouncing fengzi.
@I1am1one
@I1am1one 14 лет назад
loosing all bases now all his base are belong to us
@stimpackedmarines
@stimpackedmarines 14 лет назад
@ppshchik ok other countries have a chance, but with three professional Koreans, your chances are very slim. The chances of beating all three are very, very low.
@sharki9876
@sharki9876 14 лет назад
@Raziel1818 mad bro?
@thesparkflyer
@thesparkflyer 13 лет назад
FengZ needs more APM And gamesense
@majormononoke8958
@majormononoke8958 4 года назад
He had stork, but couldnt he jsut kil the nexus at the beginning ? I think he should have group move lings when stork tried to kill his lings with his probes... And than he just backed down, after that he made som many mistakes. THough you can see that he is good... Why do all forgeiner get so nervous whne they playing with correans ?
@saanctum
@saanctum 14 лет назад
@ShwangShwing Debt that is in China (and Japan's) interest to continue holding. Lol
@101Killer1010
@101Killer1010 13 лет назад
Stork Lost Weight...
@Agomongo1235
@Agomongo1235 14 лет назад
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