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2013 Nissan GT-R Black Edition vs 2024 BMW M4 Competition xDrive - Head to Head Review!

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Over 500hp. Twin turbo. 6 cylinders. Rear-biased AWD. Nearly 2 ton curb weight. 2+2 coupe. $60-80k in the used market. All of these stats apply to both the R35 GT-R and G82 M4C xDrive. So which should you buy?
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28 авг 2024

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Комментарии : 83

@pricepolice834 2 месяца назад

my guy. you are doing the reviews that the world needs. extending beyond the typical A vs. B - examining both ethos and execution. keep up the GREAT work.

@RearWheelZeal 2 месяца назад

When it was released, the R35 was known foremost for it's ballistic raw performance and decried for it's supposed "digital" driving interaction. Interesting how the R35 now seems to deliver a more visceral supercar driving experience than most current offerings even dramatically above its price point.

@StandingUpForBetter 2 месяца назад

Very nice! The GT-R was way ahead of its time. It is only now that other cars are catching up. Passionate engineering and quality stand the test of time. Thanks for the review.

@opmike343 2 месяца назад

I'd take that GTR interior with all the physical controls and dials over anything mostly digital today. As long as human being have fingers, physical controls will never be outdated.

@ront5689 2 месяца назад

I still like the R35 interior Just a head unit update needed. Don't even mention the newer models, beautiful interiors !

@crazylegson2 2 месяца назад

You have become my favorite car reviewer on RU-vid. You focus on performance, and do a great job describing the feedback you get from the cars. I appreciate all the track stuff too (I used to work at Sonoma RW), and also that your videos get right to the point and aren't overly long. Thanks for your content.

@Zygrene 2 месяца назад

That means a lot - thank you!

@DillonShelburn 2 месяца назад

For me, what makes the R35 so special is the story of Tamura san and what the R35 means to him. Savagegeese did a great story on it. It goes beyond the numbers and becomes an incredible story. Someone’s dream turned reality.

@augustortiz 2 месяца назад

GTR all day.

@thatpersiandude7386 2 месяца назад

facts, wish it had a catback tho

@chrisgarcia5462 2 месяца назад

Same here 😂

@ciello___8307 2 месяца назад

Also, I cant stand how the new pig nose m4 looks

@ArtVandelayOfficial Месяц назад

Lots of reliability issues and maintenance Numb driving feel

@Accost2u 2 месяца назад

Crazy how the new m4 towers over the GTR. Makes it look small in comparison.

@DillonShelburn 2 месяца назад

Also R35 is double wishbone front, which a lot of people miss. Not massive, but it’s something

@Zygrene 2 месяца назад

Good point - definitely a contributing factor to the sharp handling

@Mr_Kristofer 2 месяца назад

Great review. I previously daily drove a 13 GTR for years and now have a g80. I always tell people the g80/82 is the modern day German GTR. The same complaints of numb and boring that I heard when I had the GTR are the same things I currently hear about my current m3. I didn’t mind daily driving the GTR, but even years ago when I first got it, the interior felt dated for the price tag of the car. M3 is a far better daily but definitely doesn’t feel as special.

@big-R 2 месяца назад

Gets in the BMW, can't stop talking about the GTR. That tells the whole story. I recall driving one of the original ones (485 hp) at Silverstone and was very impressed considering it's weight.

@spartacus2954 2 месяца назад

I predict in a year this chanel would have at least 5x the subscribers.

@joeracer302 2 месяца назад

I said the same about 40k subscribers ago. Would love to see him hit 250k next. He’s definitely put in the time and effort, but YT algorithms are a pain.

@spartacus2954 2 месяца назад

@@joeracer302 Yea and its pretty saturated with car channels, but he brings an interesting perspective. Once he hit 100k it will go pretty fast as long as the content stays good.

@GJ1128 2 месяца назад

Great vid! Was actually cross-shopping these cars and ended up with the m4 comp. For the price of a new m4 you’re looking at a 10 year old gtr with the potential for 10 year old sports car problems. Much less stress beating on a brand new car with a full warranty haha.

@bkdp 2 месяца назад

I want the GTR more but am leaning M4 for all the things you said.

@OzDrives 2 месяца назад

I found that leaving the steering in comfort in my G80 provides the most steering feedback. Sport steering feels a bit over assisted and artificial.

@GoBrand0n 2 месяца назад

Let me try that tomorrow on my G82

@adamk1413 2 месяца назад

Here for the r35. A future classics since it’s the last year they will be baking it. Going to be hard for the r36 to be better with all the new technology

@ismaelflores7856 2 месяца назад

IF they even make an R36

@maximus9401 2 месяца назад

BMW makes the modern day Supra and the modern day GTR

@vny0sts 2 месяца назад

Man I love your comparisons. They are all ones I’ve been looking for. Keep it up!

@1laimmiss 2 месяца назад

Fear is good fear is fun. That is whats missing in the new fast cars. No feeling and no fear

@brianmessemer2973 2 месяца назад

Watching the first minutes of this video, I look down and gasp. 45.9K subs??? Guys, for real? I've been subbed to Fenton for like 6 years at least. I thought Zygrene was at least 100K subs for the last few years. Look at the quality of his videos. Get it done, people.

@Zygrene 2 месяца назад

Haha, the support is always appreciated!

@TornadoOfSouls777 2 месяца назад

I gotta get an R35

@aaa84gt 2 месяца назад

Why did I not know that I needed this review, shit... You are providing top tier reviews now!

@dreamdrivedrift 2 месяца назад

You looked like you were having so much more fun in the GTR! Life is too short to drive boring cars.

@Xxyion86 2 месяца назад

Was another fun morning! Thanks again for the review and just in time too!

@blueshark3098 2 месяца назад

Very fun review. Keep up the good work. I love how you describe the qualitative differences, rather than just talking about outright speed, grip and numbers. Way more interesting with your approach.

@CesarMartinez-gl9ko 2 месяца назад

I always considered the xDrive M4 the modern Skyline GTR. Straight 6 turbo with AWD

@TeamCupNoodles-nn9og 2 месяца назад

I autox in my R35. I spun out twice. Once in the rain and one in the dry. That was on my run-flats though. Also doesn't help that I jumped into autox with the GT-R.

@mariodiniz21 2 месяца назад

very interesting comparison and video, thank you

@Newyen6MT 2 месяца назад

The dome light on bothered me lol

@604parkour 2 месяца назад

Owned a 13 FBO e85 GTR for 6 years. Crazy fast 650whp & 650WTQ The car does drive itself, and has almost no character after you get accustomed to it. Sold it, and don’t regret it. Lived it, and it’s just an experience. Bought a drivers car for a change. Went with a 2013 Boss 302, half the price, reliable, low maintenance. Not the same straight line performance, but handling and enjoyment is much more then the R35.

@KRBY555 2 месяца назад

great vid - great comparo - great Chanel - you should have more subs than so many weaker, more popular ones. (Smoking Tire comes to mind)

@duffydon1741 2 месяца назад

A shout out to Carlos Ghosn, the resurrection of the R35 GTR was literally his brain child that got Nissan back in the game and shamed a lot of super cars, since the man “flew” back to his home country, Nissan has not been the same!!

@Bupkus68 2 месяца назад

Love the green in the G82

@SleeperHonda 2 месяца назад

Would take the GTR and a Camry. Sports car should be an event.

@jezuzworld4673 2 месяца назад

I’ll buy the black edition because I like feeling involved and challenged as a driver

@A_guan 2 месяца назад

Would you ever trade in the Integra Type S for a G80 M3 or M4? For primarily street car use? I considered but I just can't with the bmw steering

@Zygrene 2 месяца назад

Probably not. Like you said, the steering is too disconnected

@BoxingWave 2 месяца назад

Excellent review, just subscribed

@Lukec4ge 2 месяца назад

Good review. The GTR was described as ‘the new yardstick’ by Clarkson in his Top Gear review. Funny how all performance saloons/coupes copy the formula of a turbocharged V-engine/straight six, rear-biased four wheel drive and a dual clutch/auto gearbox. You describe the back end of the GTR losing traction easily- could it be that the tyre pressures at 30psi, was a little too low?🤔

@officialmichaeltan 2 месяца назад

I learned a lot, thanks!

@RandyLe-cb2eb 2 месяца назад

U seee tj hunt old skool skyline r34 got offer $600,000

@Superdimensional 2 месяца назад

That GT-R was at minimum on lowering springs

@dennisvanderben2719 2 месяца назад

when I saw the m4 x drive my mind immediately went, well now this is a new gtr

@Gokuaintit 2 месяца назад

Iv been considering new manual supra or similarly priced gtr 🧐

@DillonShelburn 2 месяца назад

What are your goals with the car? They’re very different

@Unicornpirate 2 месяца назад

I'd buy the GTR based on looks alone over any G series BMW. IMO all G series from the 2 all the way up to the 7 and 8 series, X and M models look ugly. BMW design peaked with the F series. Yes if you wanna go fast in a straight line, a S58 can get you 700whp with a downpipe and a tune. But a GTR will feel better to drive and if you have the money, you can make it easily 2000whp. As far as a canyon car/track car, GTR all the way.

@shotty. 2 месяца назад

Fenton you forgot the dome light

@gx4012 2 месяца назад

As a BMW fan Im taking the GTR

@notdaltonxd 2 месяца назад

I wonder if the GTR's tires were too worn/heat cycled 🤔

@CapELarry 2 месяца назад

I would suggest driving the M without the paddles. That transmission is ridiculously good, and you can’t judge it if you’re the one controlling shift points. It seemed like it could have been better and even more rapid letting it do its own thing.

@gv2949 2 месяца назад

gt-r is iconic, the new m cars are very, very good - but will never be special like the gt-r.. to each their own..

@augustortiz 2 месяца назад

Yo Zygrene, have you driven a GT350R before?

@Zygrene 2 месяца назад

Nope, only a regular 350

@OVER5TEER 2 месяца назад

Huge fan of the channel but my one nitpick is your use of the term "turbo lag", when it seems usually you are referring to elevated boost threshold. Given how precise you are in your other descriptions of a car's behavior, I'm surprised you make this common error. IMO I would separate the terms for clarity and don't dumb it down for your audience.

@samueldowney2806 2 месяца назад

I've read elsewhere that the GTR has some lag, so maybe there is some truth there, but I think the old (correct) definition of turbo lag, i.e. when the turbo is spinning fast and you're on and off the throttle and getting lag is possibly outdated. Do any modern turbos really have noticeable lag? I don't know I don't dive them. But certainly, only the nerdiest card nerds care about it when everyone else mashes the throttle before the turbo is even designed to spool and cries lag. Still, you're correct, have an up vote ;) Seeing as Fenton is seemingly single-handedly educating car enthusiasts on steering feedback, perhaps he can do the same with turbo lag.

@OcTag3n 2 месяца назад

That BMW's depreciation will be brutal compared to the GT-R.

@ArtVandelayOfficial Месяц назад

M3s always come back up though once they've hit the valley Plus with new models probably going EV anything gas based will appreciate eventually

@Kooldood. 2 месяца назад

I’d rather drive a 2006 Camry than driving the new M4s/M3s

@AdamAllen 2 месяца назад

"Miata gang" 😛

@stevemartegani 2 месяца назад

Need to get a new 2024 Model 3 Performance to compare to these two. About the same weight.

@Dennies92 2 месяца назад

Trop lourd,trop gros,trop de consommation et de budget,trop de facilité . Pas assez fun

@ms8742 2 месяца назад

BMW is a great car but like you I hate this tablet dash they are going to in all models. Just awful.

@G82Watts 2 месяца назад

Just put an exhaust on the m4 and u have the best of both worlds.

@rbendj22 2 месяца назад

For the price the GTR is going, i would rather get a Porsche 911

@will8349 2 месяца назад

Engines are failing left and right.

@jbrandon302 3 дня назад

@@will8349what engines?

@will8349 3 дня назад

@@jbrandon302 2014-2017 gt3

@GalvatronTypeR 2 месяца назад

I have a 2015 GT-R that I bought brand new and still like. But the car is old, outdated, overpriced and obsolete. The Altima quality interior has especially not aged well. It is a 17 year old platform that has been thoroughly outpaced by its competitive set. It is unacceptable that a M3 Competition xDtive or even a base C8 Stingray can now beat this car and both cost a lot less. The GT-R now costs more than a 911 especially with a markup. Anyone who pays that much for this old obsolete car instead of buying a 992 is an absolute fool. A Turbo S destroys this car, even a much cheaper C4S would beat this car.

@RearWheelZeal 2 месяца назад

For the last 5 years or more, the GT-R has really only made objective sense as the option for hardcore Nismo fans with money to burn. As a Nismo fan myself, I'd be glad to see them continue making GT-R's until the sun explodes.

@604parkour 2 месяца назад