2014 Honda Civic Si Review - How It Held Up After A QUARTER-MILLION MILES! 

I steer away from companies that design for planned obsolescence and get federal bailouts when they can't keep their businesses afloat. Hyundai got caught up again with child labor scandals at Georgia plants. Toyota and Honda don't seem to have these kinds of problems, funny.

All automakers know VERY well how to make good cars that last. But there’s a reason most of them won’t do that…

In other words it would be a modern day Chevrolet

Have you met a 2001 civic?😅

I wonder how many times the suspension and exhaust have been replaced. Honda Civics and Accords and some CR-Vs are prone to the suspension wearing out and collapsing along with the exhaust rusting out.

they still are

@@josedusol I used past tense because I was referring specifically to the 9th gen featured in this video.

These cars have a rear brake bias for whatever reason. There is a similar issue with the TSX. I have a 2013 Si with almost 100k on the original front pads and it's 2nd set of rears probably due soon for a 3rd so....almost lines up exactly with his experience.

@@B95_P rear brake bias helps with turn-in/rotation and reduces understeer, so that makes sense.

@@B95_P No vehicle has a rear brake bias, greater than the front. Nor does any Civic ever made, not have a standard 20% rear brake bias (like every other fwd car ever made). It would be completely stupid to have a greater than front, rear brake bias. If you're just saying it has rear brake bias. That's completely irrelevant. The problem with 9th. Is the caliper guide pins seize, it has absolutely nothing to do with brake bias.

@@wigletron2846 Except there's no Honda Civic made that would EVER have more than a 20%-25% rear bias. Not to mention they can't, due to NHTSA and DOT laws. Honda wouldn't use brake bias for turn in improvement. They'd used toe, camber, wheel, and sway bar sizing.

Thats strange, i got an 08 with 280K and I had seized calipers and eventually I had the parking brake replaced. Its still going alright. Its not my daily driver anymore, and even though its my slowest car and doesnt handle as well as my R, its actually more fun for daily driving.

I have 3, 9th Si. 26k, '15 sedan. 57k '13 coupe. 82k '12 sedan (only one bought new. not bad for a 12yrs old car).

8th gen gang here 😂

I got mine brand new too. I got into a crash. I got injured though because my hand was in the path of the airbag and broke my knee because my knee was to close to the plastic. I miss my car so much. I'm thinking of fixing the car even though it is a salvage.

Okay but why did I own a civic and also lost it in a crash where someone else hit me too 😂 what kind of coincidental karma is dat

Rocking my 8th gen too. Bought it new and still love it! The new turbo cars just don’t go be me the same thrill of that vtec, even if it’s not fast, it’s exciting hah

8th gen is def better build quality than 9th though.

@@Tixbomber what? the interior is clearly better

@@Tixbomber I wouldn't say I totally agree. The 9th gen sedan had some cost-cutting at first, but that was fixed pretty quickly after a year or two. I'd say the 9th gen hatch has better superficial build quality (more sound insulation, felt-lined glovebox etc) than the 8th gen hatch. With both of the 9th gens being facelifts, I guess the 8th gens were more of a pure expression of the futuristic styling language though -- the 9th gens both sedan and hatch are both a bit more toned down. Assembly quality is a wash for all hatchbacks made in Swindon, England IMO (be it 7th, 8th, 9th, or 10th-gen!). It's pretty normal to have hatches & bonnet installed that don't line up quite right, lol. 😂

It really has held up well, the owner has a lot to be proud of. I’m curious, it sounds like your Mazda’s been nearly as reliable - maybe you’re willing to elaborate on what your maintenance journey has been like? I own a 2022 Mazda 3 and it will likely end up being a high miler as it ages. I’m curious how current and previous model years have been holding up.

Mines as clean as this and has 163k still runs like a dream

Blue coupe

@vikingmetalhead024 heh its funny you ask. I've done quite a bit of work on it and still ga e quite a bit of work left on it. Of course I've done tires, brakes routine oil changes. I've also had to replace my rear camber arms and lateral links. Front sway bar links, front outer tie rods, I'm eventually do the inners, driver side cv axle, battery twice technically 3 but I upgraded the second battery to get a better one. Intake manifold runner solenoids, I take manifold/gaskets, spark plugs, coil boots, Oil seperator/pcv valve, cleaned the throttle body, cleaned the intake manifold. Pretty soon I gotta do injectors, replace pretty much everything in the evap system do all of the front suspension, the rest of the rear thay I haven't done yet. And eventually when I have a second car I might lower it and if my cat goes out ima do a baffled exhaust. That way I can be quiet in the neighborhood when I come home. Oh also I had my transmission rebuilt at 186k miles and I was in an accident twice and pretty much had all of the front body components replaced twice. The only things original to the front is the fog light retainers and the license plate bracket. Got LED headlights and LED foglights and the license plate light and back up lights are LED and I still needa do the turn signals and brake lights however I still need brake light sockets cause they're tryna fall apart on me.

Love boosted John! another collab is well over due!

The split dashboard started with 8th, not 9th. And the only controversy is from people that have never driven with the split dash, or seen it in person. Which is infinitely better than 95% of dashes (in cars people can actually afford). Are you calling it the "Spanish Civic", because of it being an "Si"? The paint and bodies are the first things to go on every Honda ever made. The engines last forever though. There's also plenty of people that can rack up well over 30k/yr. The car was most likely a work car, that involved a lot of travel.

@@Tixbomber it is true there was some controversy, or at least it divided people. Later gens abandoned that dash favoring a more ordinary or conservative style. I think that especially the 9th inside looks like a spaceship, i liked.

@@josedusol It was only really "controversial" in the automotive journalism sphere. In all honesty, I don't think most people would even care. I imagine the real reason for a change back to just a "traditional" cluster style, is for cost savings. As well as it makes it much easier with modularity/utilization, when you have multiple vehicles built from the same unibody, using most of the same parts.

8th and 9th gen r18's are the same car ftmp. The 9th is still def the better of the two though for a dd.

Nice, you really enjoy your car, I got mine at 2021 with 42k and not I'm around 62k

I'd like to see that as well! I've got an 8th gen with the r18. Just tapping 170k, and no troubles with anything! Just typical maintenance and wear.

My Civic coupe (LX) has the R18A1, another bulletproof Honda engine. Can't say enough nice things about it. Quick, but not fast, and extremely good on gas mileage. My Civic's at 170k right now as well, funnily enough. No signs of stopping any time soon. Only "problems" are typical Honda gremlins, such as a sagging headliner and a shorted radio, but she will run until a nuclear holocaust happens, and will run after the fallout clears. I've only ever owned Hondas, 3 at this point (I'm 21). Not once have I been left stranded. My '06 CRV saved my life when I crashed in it. I'll never buy another brand of car.

@@eljeff1111 The sagging headliner is a big one for sure😂 definitely a pain. I don't think I'll ever get anything but Asian cars for the most part. I had an 05 Corolla that saved my life pretty much and took me everywhere, and now I've got my 07 Civic, 08 Eclipse, and '12 Crv. Honda definitely makes some of the best in the business, even to this day.

@@newtz_garage Japanese cars in particular are consistently good. My younger brother has an '06 Camry and I swear it's like a Rolls Royce compared to my Civic. It's like they just know how to make cars, and make them exceedingly well. They're passionate about their craft, and you can tell by the way they're built.

@@eljeff1111 Oh 100%. And the higher up the models you go, the better they get. I love my CRV, the mom car that it is lol; it's such an amazing, practical, and painless car. And you step up from there to the Pilot, those things are tanks. And the Odyssey...those things are too dang sweet. And same thing with Toyota too. The RAV4, Highlander, and sienna. Keep stepping up, and they get better and better.

How do you have 57k on it if it has OD problems? Pretty sure it would've blown up awhile ago.

@Jonathan-mp7xg in my CR-V, nothing started leaking until it hit 120,000 miles when the valve cover started leaking, but I had to get the valves adjusted anyways. I understand that engines leak from time to time. It’s normal. But I was a little shocked that a 4 year old Honda with only 57,000 miles began leaking when my experiences in the past with the brand were different.

@@ryanlittleton5615 Honda did the “software fix” and the engine warms up… slightly faster. The main issue is short trips where the engine doesn’t warm up all the way. Because the piston rings are engineered to have lass friction (for more fuel economy), and it’s a direct fuel injected engine (increases crank case pressure) gasoline slips past the piston rings when it’s fired into the cylinder, mixing it with the oil. Usually when the engine is cold. It’s an insidious problem, but it’s not so bad. I change my oil ever 4,000-5,000 miles just to try to keep the oil as oily and less gasoliney as possible.

@@Deadlybroom 5k oil changes is what you should do on any turbocharged engine so good on you.

It still has the VTEC crossover sound though? Are they referring to lack of VTEC on the exhaust cam? It's not economy VTEC.

@@TassieLorenzo Yeah, the latter. It would have been cool though to have VTEC on both cams but it's not a big detriment. I still find the K24Z7 a fun engine.

Has nothing to do with it. EBD is never greater than 20% any way. So there is 0% chance, rear pads would wear faster than front. Unless they had some super high coefficient of friction compared to the front. FWD cars will almost never transfer more than 5% in everyday driving, including stop and go to the rear. The brakes on every Civic ever made, are more than adequate to stop the car, without even taxing the system or pads. Modern ABS systems (aka the past 35yrs) also HAVE to by law, be able to provide 25% greater force, than what's actually needed to stop the car tbw. Get with the times. You're living in the 80s world of cars apparently. 9th eat rear pads, because people don't know how to lube guide pins. And they seize. So the pad just drags across the rotor, the entire time the car is being driven.

Damn you been driving the shit out of it to rack up that many miles in 4 years lol

@thekreativeculture9642 you're not wrong. I spend about 50 percent of my work week driving so it adds up. Plus there's been a few road trips. I'm in Ohio and my wife and I have drove to Indiana twice, Tennessee, Chicago, West Virginia and Virginia, North Carolina and New York in that car.

@@adambuzzeo oh nice! Thats whats up man. I love these cars. So much that this is my second Si lol bone stock for now but besides lowering the suspension, i might just keep everything else stock. Its amazing how long these K series engines can last.

@thekreativeculture9642 they're great cars. Mines bone stock aside from some cosmetics. Probably why it's lasted so long 😆

The Si looked good. The normal coupe looked weird. It was deisgned as a sedan first and forced to be what it wasn't. Lots if Civic coupes do that for me.

personally, for me I kinda don't like the styling of the the 9th gen SI sedan's look. It kinda seems.... off to me. Though I love the coupes styling, though and own a 2015 coupe myself. The 10th gen looks phenomenal all around though, even though I don't think it is gonna age as well as the 9th gen.

10th are fugly, including the Type R. The only thing worse is the FN2 and (maybe) EP3 euro trash Civic's. And the 11th might as well be called Accorns, and not a Civic at all.

I do lossless files via a DAC dongle and AUX. New cars should have AUX

@@faheemabbas3965lossless DAC files but it’s in a moving car with a exhaust and engine and ac vent fan and tire and wind noise to ruin the audio clarity

No way you’re picking up one of these for that cheap now a days… I just sold my 2014 civic ex for 12k

@@mattbaillargeon at that mileage I wouldn’t pay over $5,000

@@rnt45t1 Have you lived under a rock? that is not for you to decide in this market. Not sure if you were joking but $5,000 can only get you a 300k miles 2010 civic EX

No, you're wrong. Check different metros, not just your little circle jerk "major city." @@nathannguyen3564

The 14-15 Si’s go anywhere from 12-18k depending on mileage and condition, Si’s hold their value well if you don’t mod the crap out of them.

Pretty simply. Just a long daily commute. Not much else to say.

And no head gasket issues? People make those cars seem impossible to modify because of head gaskets…

@@faheemabbas3965 Hehehe well. It actually has had the "famous" HG issue (Shooting Cars had my car on 8 days ago! I'm the Subaru. License plates same as screenname and pic) but THIS time... "MLS and never having that problem again!" You need to be CERTAIN the person making the repair knows what you're doing with it. It is a process.

@@82_KIDI’ve heard that Subarus are fine, but it’s just that they’re not as tolerant to bad maintenance, especially when it comes to oil.

@@faheemabbas3965 I'd agree with that. Good maintenance will surely help them out!

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