@The Duck In 1997 they had an agreement prior the race. Mika was the faster driver and David was simply sloiwing both down, you should dig more into it, David was a gentleman and he kept his word and let Mika pass. In Melbourne 1998, dude, Mika had pole and he was leading the race from the start but they called Mika in the pits and they weren't ready so they screwed MIka's race. It was a call to Coulthrad to let Mika pas and rejoin it's 1st postion. Listen, I was there I watched those races live. You are confusing Mika with Michael and btw that "win" in Silverstone was a sore cheat that Ferrari International Assistance aka FIA allowed to happen. Calm your tits.
@@aldoe2975 But it was Ron who found him and gave him a chance he would not have got to mclaren had Ron not found him probably to a much weaker team first.
@@flipflop4396 He did - but he had to be removed kicking and screaming.....he had his hay-days and he was no longer an asset to the team. Toto Wolff is much like Ron in his prime. Being a shareholder like Ron was - one has to realize to leave before becoming a detriment, rather than an asset. An almost impossible task, for a human, especially one as capable of orchestrating winning like the two have done.
@@ottohonkala6861 Who says Toto wont scream and kick when his time comes? I doubt you were born when Ron prime was. Ron build from scratch, unlike Toto he didnt had Mercedes behind his back, he had to attract big engine companies. Toto came in already built infrastructure and team that had one of biggest budgets in F1. Ron literally made Mclaren as sports team and brabd, Toto is just a F1 team manager since Daimler are his superiors.
@@flipflop4396 I said it would be the most difficult thing for him to do even if it was the right thing to do. Thanks for beginning with the patronizing age reference. Ron was the Brabham garage dog when I was born, as if it has any relevance to anything.
Another one of my favourites is when Heikki Kovalinnen won his first Grand Prix- Ron Said “welcome to the winners circle”. I watched that as a kid, and it’s stuck with me all these years later
Ron Dennis was Mclaren after Bruce Mclaren's grass roots entry in the world of motorsports. Dennis was right to get Honda in, shame it never worked out for him.
It worked for red bull cause they have andrian newie those idiots in mclaren succ nuts this could have happened in the older hakkinen coulthard era but then Ron had more power
Well in hindsight looks like McLaren were draconian in insisting that Honda made an engine to fit inside a ridiculously tight aero package which did not allow for proper function or cooling, which severely affected horsepower. Now Red Bull told Honda to build the most powerful engine they know how to, and a chassis would be designed around that. Red Bull is performing decently, and the Honda engine so far has decent power and reliability. McLaren lost out bigtime.
@@jstoli996c4s not really what happened. Honda scrapped their original engine and started again by copying Mercedes. RedBull were lucky to get this engine. Honda took too long to acknowledge their radical original concept didn't work
Ron Dennis has to be up there as one of the best , people need to remember Mclaren didn’t made Road cars before he came , he came in & made them successful & push them forward to bigger stuff , otherwise they would have been like Williams
the best f1 team boss in the history of f1. ron is so much more than just a racing team boss. he is an entrepreneur. he turned a dying racing team into a massive and impressive global technology company. anyone who wants to understand what really happened, watch his interview "drive for perfection".
It's absolutely impossible to think that anyone, including Zak Brown, could fill Ron Dennis's shoes after the effort he put to make McLaren a great team of the day. Eddie is right, McLaren (much less Formula One) is not the same without Ron
well this comment didn't age right, arguably sacking Ron was the best choice at that point seeing how McLaren was going in the direction that Ron was leading them in.
The decisions Ron made in the final years of his reign completely crippled the team for the entirety of the hybrid era, he was arrogant about Lewis staying and cut his salary by 70 percent, all while ruining his championship hopes in 2012. He was a genius, but was well past his due by date by the end of his run
Surprised I missed this. After reading Nick Skeen’s biography on John Barnard “The Perfect Car” you understand the “blind spot” in Ron Dennis’ character. We’re losing all the great personalities of racing...Al Unser, Max Mosley, Niki Lauda, Sid Watkins, Murray Walker...and too soon, Bernie Ecclestone, Bobby Unser, Mario Andretti. It is a much safer sport, thanks to Ron, John, Max, Sid and Bernie. “Racers race the ‘damn’ car” TK
As a McLaren fan it's been fantastic to see Zak slowly but surely bring the team back towards the top of the grid. Lando & Daniel are a fantastic pairing and all being well the team can pull a Mercedes in 2022 & return to fighting for WCs.
@@omidheidari4462Zak is all about Zak. Just qaiting for him to throw Norris under the bus. Only thing stopping this is Norris's daddy runs F1 marketing.
Ron may have been great in the early days of McL - but with the Honda era (or even before) he turned into a dictator, made wrong decisions, annoyed employees (and his engine suppliers) and threatened sponsors. He just got too full of himself in the end.
I was born on Ron's Mclaren: Lewis, Heiki, Kimi, Jenson, Mika, Senna ( senna obviously cause i was born on 1995) And now enjoying Mclaren comeback on Zak eras: lando, oscar, stoffel, fernando
Ron was correct that you can only win in this era if you are a constructor, the only mistake he made was allowing Honda in so quickly without a development year in a team like Marussia
Indeed it is a sad spectacle to see a man, a builder, a "ruthless businessman" and a visionary come to terms with his obsolescence. It is simply a matter of Ron's inability to recognize and accept that it was time for him to fold and walk away. F1 has evolved immensely and McLaren under Ron's leadership has not coped with the pace of evolution during the past 8 years to keep up with the youthful and highly creative teams of Mercedes and Red Bull, who are managed by two guys nearly half of Ron's age. Having stated the obvious, I should point out that Ron should hold his head high. His accomplishments will occupy a lot of chapters in the history book of Formula 1. And that is what he should relish and use as a solace for the understandable disappointment he is feeling for giving up McLaren.
@@paulnotdownunder3172He brought a drowning McLaren to moderate success in a few years. What else do you want from a boss. Certainly better than Renault LOL
@@Wirgah Yes, relax dude, I’m an older than you and a lifetime McLaren guy. To say the guy is a “legend” is dumb. He is just a money launderer...uhm...I mean maker. Seidl is the tech guy, thank him
@@ALLSERVICE_RO I think calling him a “money launderer” is really ignoring is accomplishments. Besides, he got more sponsors to turn the team around in the first place. And the most important thing is he turned around the cold atmosphere the team had. It’s way more warm now. Zak even got along well with the drivers
Thank god for Zak. Single handly saved McLaren from going down the Williams route. Ron did many great things for them, but he was well past it, by the time Honda came around, he was utterly clueless and useless, and was steering the team into an iceberg…
Liegate & spygate, leading to the loss of the Merc engine. They had to get rid of him after that. Having said that, the company is still going in completely the wrong direction. The lack of perfectionism has lead to crap quality road cars which belies terrible quality control in the entire company & a complete misunderstanding of what the company is. As Ron used to say, don't get distracted by the racing, McLaren is a technology company not a race company.
Completely agree with that. In fact, not just drivers, but many key staff who designed and engineered those dominant cars left because of Ron Dennis. And unfortunately I put Christian Horner in the same category ... he's just a Dennis jnr as far as I'm concerned. He's just bloody lucky Newey came into that team, but as for Horner's team/driver management - it sucks! He screwed both Webber and Ricciardo, but then has the hide to say "I don't know why they're leaving", "they're running from a fight". No ... they're getting away from you Christian!
Ron was McLaren, he came in and made the team a front runner. Now the ‘sport’ has changed but Ron and Sir Frank are both the beating hearts of their respective teams. Ron should have been given the honour and time to ensure he passed the baton to a suitable successor when he was ready. Share holders did themselves no favours and the team is a broken shadow of its former self. Saddens me to say they should quit F1 and concentrate on the road cars and sports car championships.
RD's belief in Honda has been fully Vindicated: Honda now leads the World Championship !!! RD gave a boy of non- white origins a chance in F1: he created Lewis Hamilton !!! Ron Dennis is a great man: a Legend.
@@Arctic_Falcon New Zealand Doco on three Kiwis at to top.!!!. Bruce McLaren with Denny Hume & Chris Amon...www.nzonscreen.com/title/trio-at-the-top-2001
"Ron was fantastic. im sure Zak is doing well and will do going forward. but he hasn't got that spirit that Ron had. too cheery." - Too cheery? Nah, you don't want that in a boss, do you? We want the traditional asshole, who thinks smiling and speaking pleasantly is bad for politics! Gotta love those people/bosses who think they have to be righteous to be respected and to give the persona that they are tough, and that somehow this is the formula for success. So glad this style of management is eroding from our society.
McLaren have gone backwards since Ron left. Would love to see him come back and bring them back to where they belong at the top fighting for race wins and titles.
Even though Ron run the team into the ground in the seek of sucess again, He was one of the best team bosses , manager and businessman. 2:58 CSM is B2B (Sky/Sky Sports F1) do the math... America + Sky = $$$
But what i question, Why did they boot Ron out who has build Mclaren to the well known team it is now. Sure Zak is doing an amazing job, but at least involve Ron in it becouse he know the team From top to roots, so you have a firm and solid team. We'll never know
Mclaren was Ron, Ron was mclaren. Never their biggest fan but the guys who built up these teams were their figureheads babies because they were personally invested. Christian, toto, Cyril etc just aren’t invested in that they will move on to other stuff. Can you imagine Ron and frank running banks, or WEC teams? Nah me neither!
@@lenworthgoffe4165 Init! Christian has lead Red Bull for 16 years, that man is Red Bull Racing through and through, I wouldn't be surprised if he has a financial vested interest in the company. He'll do that job until he's past being good enough or Red Bull want a change, that day could be over a decade away. Apart from 2015 they've made the top 3 every year since 2009, 4 championships, many 2nd places, consistently delivering, Christian is a class act and will be remembered as such in the sports history.
BlazingFermiteYT oh yea I think I’m too young to really know about Ron in the first place anyways, I hope someone can take down mercedes I mean come on this is just getting crazy lol
Eddie Jordan ..... ? Who is he ? lol lol lol lol ... Ron Dennis was a great man and if the team,for some reason,went a bit "low",there was over 500 or 600 people working there to be blamed. But,somehow,the best people is normally the ones ended up getting the blame.
@@ALLSERVICE_RO damn you’re really mad that you typed out a 30 page essay all based on an incorrect assumption. But yeah, Eddie Jordan is not an actor and shouldn’t be on tv.
