2016 Porsche 911 Carrera S: Have Turbos Killed The Magic? - Carfection

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Porsche's gone turbo on the 911, so we thought it was best to have a look to see how much the iconic car has changed with a new, forced induced heart.
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@HarizHafiGarden 8 лет назад

Most of the people who complain are the ones who haven't even sat in one

@tennismaroc 3 года назад

Nonsense. The NA sounds much better and the feeling when driven is incomparable.

@mray9305 3 года назад

Correct or even owned one lol

@lohithreddy6629 2 года назад

Does that mean they can’t have an opinion??

@cominacatcha 8 лет назад

I somehow suddenly imagined a mob of angry 911 enthusiast with pitchforks and torches screaming "Heresy!! Witchcraft!!"

@longtailgt 8 лет назад

+cominacatcha That moment when you remember a line from a car review that is 2 years old but you don't remember what you studied yesterday.

@xIWRESTLEABEARONCEx 8 лет назад

Your joke is older than James may.

@bighands69 8 лет назад

+BlackWind I own a GT3 that is several years old and was considering buy a 911 Carrera next year. But that now looks to be of the table. I hate turbo's in performance cars. It is one of the reasons I have an RS5 but even the new RS5 may be going down the turbo routes. I have no problems with Porsche doing turbo's but to have all of there cars as turbo (barring GT3) is just insane. Even Ferrari is going down the turbo route.

@carlitoxb110 8 лет назад

+bighands69 all the cars in the future are gonna be turbocharged , hybrid or electric... Is the future get used to it.

@Ayrton4everrr 8 лет назад

James May quote at Top gear on Porsche

@eugenehvorostyanov2409 8 лет назад

Definitely you had hard time filming in such unpleasant weather. Thank you.

@Sandouras 8 лет назад

+Carfection Couldn't you postpone it?

@chickensoupfortheloser8515 8 лет назад

Just seeing the typical english weather in a video is depressing.

@emrico 8 лет назад

+Carfection whenever you don't feel like going out in the rain in a new 911 call me, i'll spare you the suffering

@emrico 8 лет назад

***** i'd happily do their job too :)

@Sandouras 8 лет назад

buggeroff It is when you're supposed to review a sportscar and you cant drive it how it's supposed to be driven because of the weather. Also, SUN >>>>>> RAIN

@ShermanMR2 8 лет назад

RIP to one of the best sounding cars on the planet.

@boy638 8 лет назад

2:15 shots fired at us who still complain about the Carfection name lol

@TheAkrhino12 8 лет назад

Great job on filming in the rain. It made for some really near perspectives and a nice change in scenery. Thanks for a good review.

@ldomi25 8 лет назад

Amazing video with nice cinematography! Nice video yet again

@Siper2 8 лет назад

Some scathing one-liners in there - I loved it. Nice job!

@markitoxi 8 лет назад

Glad you're back

@mufflejoy 8 лет назад

Brilliant review, answered all the questions I had about the new turbo engines.

@WahabGoldsmith 8 лет назад

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG!!!

@luftlinie811 8 лет назад

I Could listen to this guy all day. Subscribed.

@ThePinoyMamba 8 лет назад

great video and love the review... you rock bro.

@SCWahoo 8 лет назад

Fabulous. Love the car, great segment -- thank you!

@tim2468 8 лет назад

Nice job on a comprehensive review. It's that "angry feeling" I would miss.

@davidjames6247 8 лет назад

Well I have owned a 997.2 turbo s and a 991 turbo and how special these cars are !! The performance in both speed and handling of these turbo's is just simply outstanding. That is only going to be diluted by all 911s now having a turbo...it just won't be the same for those of us that have driven the "real thing". That Porsche turbo mystic now becomes just standard equipment. You can now buy a base 911 and tune it ( ecu , headers, exhaust, intake plenum ) for about $11-12,000 and have a 500hp+ beast! My 991 turbo was tuned to 650hp and it was a under 3 second animal! The tuning wonders of turbo's😄

@annuvynarawn392 8 лет назад

It will be interesting to see what the Cayman is like with the new turbo. Thanks for a nice balanced view on the new 911, it looks lovely.

@coureurdebois 8 лет назад

love the new tail lights and engine cover.

@michaelschneider- 8 лет назад

Great to hear Mr. Alex's 2 cents regarding the new 3.0tt Carrera S cars. The 911 range turbo motors are welcome in the high elevations of Colorado.At my driveway its 8,200ft ... My MY98 911 (993) C2S 3.6l is sucking wind .... output power is off by -20% or more. Say -3% for every 1,000ft above sea level. Turbo charging offsets this elevation negative somewhat. Go ahead Porsche AG .... turbo charge everything ......

@pjvenda 8 лет назад

That opening line was class :-) well done, great video!

@pjvenda 8 лет назад

+Carfection Haha, good laugh though for 911 owners :-p Not what makes the video great, but a nice touch nonetheless.

@charlieajaib2339 8 лет назад

+carfection Great video as always, also the 911 actually sounds quite nice.

@richlongwith6430 8 лет назад

Great job on the review. Fabulous car! (own a 2005 997 S)

@vincai7710 8 лет назад

Thanks for the review!!!

@lerudeboy 8 лет назад

Well done gents, job well done! props to the camera men

@d0718 8 лет назад

Nice review (as always with Alex) and filming! As for the car.. I fell in love with it the moment it was released, exactly in that colour as in the video (though I'd prefer some other colour for the interior). And I don't care about the turbos. Porsche know how to make brilliant cars, so I am sure this one is no exception.

@lerudeboy 8 лет назад

one day you should release the playlist of your background tracks, soooooooo good!

@gregoryhill2373 8 лет назад

you are doing a great job never mind the inclement weather.

@itswhitenoise9607 8 лет назад

The 991.2 is just the natural progression of the 911. You may not get that NA sound but the benefits of the turbo engine is definitely worth the sacrifice. It's faster, more fuel efficient, more connected and less steer by wire. I think Porsche is just embracing the change and the final product is pretty damn awesome!

@Sideways_Singh Год назад

No thats what happens when ur biased and blinded by love for a brand. Its a sports car no one cares about fuel effeciency, or faster, the sound is a huge part of the driving experience, the theatre, what seperates iconic supercars from normal cars.

@dedelabinouze5110 8 лет назад

That steering wheel is fabulous. And that manual transmission god yes. But please UK journalists, for the love of god, settle somewhere the roads are not soaking wet 90% of the time.

@dedelabinouze5110 8 лет назад

***** South of France is not that far.

@Claypoool 8 лет назад

+Carfection chck weather and schedule on a dry day or dry part of the day. Jmo

@adamwebb2350 8 лет назад

+Dédé LABINOUZE Ha ha ha. You think there's a place in the UK like that.

@billyh6872 8 лет назад

+Dédé LABINOUZE yea hang on a second let me just ask David Cameron if he can stop the rain so carfection can shoot a video you melt

@salangchoi02 4 года назад

For a turbo car, you might want the PDk to keeping rpm high.

@Vanderkitten 8 лет назад

Good on ya for the honest review! I'm excited for 2-reasons- Easy to get more HP out of a turbo car. My 996 might start increasing in value! =)

@jamessmith-hb9ej 8 лет назад

Nice video like always... I can't wait to c u review the new bmw m2

@ayrtonatif572 8 лет назад

+Carfection i beg you let me join your team. ✌

@jamiewaring6005 8 лет назад

I do like Porsche and i think the new look is an evolution and it's like fine tuning. The main question I have is that with them now adding turbos to the 'standard' 911 will there no longer be a need for the Turbo and Turbo S? I loved the Turbo as it gave that sense of power and rawness and made it stand out, all be it with a fancy spoiler but now do you really need one?

@peejstar 8 лет назад

Is that Phil Collins ?

@leloodallasmultipass 8 лет назад

+Carfection but, nearly? we need more songs.

@seanjones4409 8 лет назад

Great video. But more importantly where did you get that jacket?

@obedchattergoon2780 8 лет назад

So it's not a 911 turbo but it has two turbos so it is but it isn't... Porsche logic.

@tvanb 8 лет назад

They can't just change every single name.

@xDAAAZEx 8 лет назад

Should have the new 911 turbo as a 911 turbo turbo

@jettdiff8573 8 лет назад

+Jackie Scholl That's not true. They called it the turbo because it literally had a turbo, unlike the rest of the lineups. Of course now, it has caused confusion.

@nameunko 8 лет назад

In the future it will be. It's not a 4S but it has AWD , so it is and isn't....

@webcrawler9782 8 лет назад

+xDAAAZEx or super turbo

@jerusdc 8 лет назад

I like the new edgeless nav screen, Wish mine had that.. Very cool

@Eoinkinooone 8 лет назад

great video.

@TheCloudhopper 8 лет назад

Alex Goy + Porsche = Carfection

@GT-hh3ts 8 лет назад

Change is always hard but Porsche 911 is always going to be iconic. A lot smashed on the PDKS in the GT3's but after experiencing it they wouldn't go back. I feel Porsche will continue to be very desirable and continue to make incredible sports cars. I do prefer NA engines like my GT3 but would love to have a 991 Turbo S as well.

@w-james9277 8 лет назад

Carfection my arse!!!

@haroob133 8 лет назад

Wtf is this name

@koopagabla 8 лет назад

PLEASE do the new Mustang GT! I would really love to hear your impressions of it considering what you get for the price. (especially here in the US but still)

@koopagabla 8 лет назад

Can't wait! Fingers crossed for some dry weather

@nikb6528 8 лет назад

this video wasn't as informative as I would have hoped..

@davidmitchell5638 8 лет назад

+Nik Brudar Enough to make me decide which is which, so.....

@nikb6528 8 лет назад

David MuscleGuy which is which?

@davidmitchell5638 8 лет назад

Nik Brudar non turbo.

@prashanthpanicker2890 8 лет назад

+Nik Brudar XCAR and now Carfection was never really about that. Their reviews have always been rooted in the intangibles about the love of cars and that's why I keep coming back.

@nikb6528 8 лет назад

Prashanth Panicker Yes, that is true!

@midnightfuture 8 лет назад

Love the shot at 2:17 at the whingeing about the name!

@B18C5 8 лет назад

love the landscape, what part of Great Britain is it?

@VIDUGATOK19 8 лет назад

The music you guys use is magnificent, may I know where you get it from?

@aimanzahry 2 года назад

Alex Arcoleo - Shadowtalk

@slaWterCH 8 лет назад

For a facelift, this generation has a lot of new stuff available. Mostly multimedia and safety things. That is great and all. But the emotion part definitely took a hit. Even my sales guy told me that they now have to start selling the cars differently. They can't just let the potential customer go out for a drive with PSE on and then come back and sign the contract. With this change, even though I love the new design, the 911 is not an attractive offering anymore. It's more a GT car now. The GT3 models are the only interesting 911s now. And with the turbos coming to the mid-engined models soon, there is pretty much no attractive Porsche left apart from the most extreme ones. Sad. I hope once the batteries get lighter they ditch the turbos again and use NA engines with additional E-motors, like in the 918. That would be my preferred solution if you have to meet those useless emission regulations.

@JoJoJoker 8 лет назад

My fear is the 997.2 C4S & C4GTS cars will start becoming more expensive before I get to buy mine.

@bighands69 8 лет назад

+slaWterCH It is politics that is killing cars. It is fake environmentalism that is driving all of this.

@carlitoxb110 8 лет назад

Yeah 911 must go hybrid, that is the more logical next step

@bighands69 8 лет назад

+RaphProgListener E-Motors are perfect for everyday family usage. And they have exceptional performance. But they lack the sound of a ICE. That is their weakness as a sports car. Porsche NA cars have always sound amazing. They have a pure sports grunt about them that is purely natural.

@M3Conv 8 лет назад

This is Porsche so do you get both turbos as standard or is the second an optional extra?

@Barfly76 8 лет назад

You bring up a good point in this vid. Will Porsche now have to change the name of the 911 Turbo to something different now that they will all be turbos?

@echtogammut 8 лет назад

Great video I really do think this new model looks better than the outgoing. It is subtle, but better. That said I tried to give this whole Carfection name change thing a go, but I just can't take it anymore... I am going rage quit.

@MACtheVILLAIN 8 лет назад

How will the previous cars resale value react to this car? This was the prettiest 911 imo, second only to the 993. I feel like people will prefer the new model simply because it's faster. But I think the better experience would be in the previous car. Mind you I haven't driven either one.

@kkaratas 8 лет назад

How does the manual gearbox feel compared to the first-gen car's?

@felixh97 8 лет назад

I think the performance exhaust doesn't look good. I prefer the 4 exhaust system, looks much better

@FuzzyCholo 8 лет назад

Whats the name of the song at the end?

@ocariioca 8 лет назад

Give that thing a tune and you have yourself a new widow maker.

@v8ssf 8 лет назад

Lovely car but I wouldn't swap it for my 991 4 GTS. The engine note on mine is just amazing and one I wouldn't want to give up.

@detaart 8 лет назад

Dear Carfection, I owe you an apology. I truly believed xcar had gone away and some lame corporate bs had taken it's place. I was wrong. Clearly wrong. Thanks, Alex. Thanks, Carfection.

@ScottZ370 8 лет назад

I do really like the new centre R32 style exhausts

@GT380man 8 месяцев назад

I know this is very old, but this I don’t understand. In the days of NA engines, the turbo was the dream car. Now they’re all turbos, some people don’t like that. What part of a huge contradiction am I missing? I’m seriously considering buying a 911. Life’s literally too short not to, if you like the idea and have the means. We’re running towards the end of privately owned motor cars. What a way to finish, with a 911!!

@georgiepeorgie3315 8 лет назад

Does this mean that the Vario Cam Plus ( variable valve timing )has gone?

@zefa17 8 лет назад

Aftermarket exhaust with anti-lag, it will be MAD

@SPQR101010 8 лет назад

lol great reference to changing the name and dropping the car show at a moments notice.

@Beer_Dad1975 8 лет назад

I actually respect Porsche a lot for embracing new ideas and technology, and new social expectations and attempt to engineer the faults out of it - sure they aren't always completely successful, but they always make the industry progress.

@rytisvitenas5784 8 лет назад

Whats the name of backround song? One hell of a review btw!

@alexandernoskov60 2 года назад

Shadowtalk by Alex Arcoleo

@fekally 8 лет назад

Nice review for a van

@o3tomas 8 лет назад

The only think that we needed to know, and what was not said - is that the door for more affordable engine mods has been open and you can relatively easy blow 500hp out of it.

@eddiegray793 Год назад

Miss your reviews

@paarthd2 8 лет назад

What's that soundtrack towards the end?

@philspaghet 8 лет назад

5:16 I see your camera car, Ford Focus ST :D

@ALMX5DP 8 лет назад

Great Review XCAR... I mean Carfection! Enthusiasts will always lament the previous generation of a loved icon, however Porsche needs to stay alive. These will sell, and allow the GT cars to be produced (though it may not be long before even they are converted). If you dont like the innovation, buy a 991.1 at a soon to be discounted rate.

@AV-sf5xq 8 лет назад

what was the name before carfection?

@F4834N 8 лет назад

it sounds exactly like an older nsx and that good in a way

@SpyderRios 8 лет назад

It has but then it hasn't. It just means that now everyone gets to get a Turbo no matter which model

@minibus1351 8 лет назад

damn these new 911s. Ill go get myself a 993 Carrera S and be happy with the driving experience as well as its appreciation factor.

@marilynsedona704 8 лет назад

Nice pack shot at 1m 05s... ;)

@utubecomment21 8 лет назад

I still remember the sound from my dad's Saab 900 turbo ....

@mojostevo 8 лет назад

Pretty cool. you can get a 911 with a turbo and a manual gearbox again.

@DanielSilva-fy6bo 8 лет назад

Yeah but it's not the most powerful model, it's not the "turbo" model so I don't see what's so great about it

@mojostevo 8 лет назад

Turbo kits can be upgraded. Keep an eye peeled, you're going to see specialty shop and aftermarket companies making some screamers out of these.

@Riparay121 8 лет назад

+Daniel Silva Manual gearboxes aren't for Speed or Acceleration, they are for fun. Most people who spend high amounts of money for a Car like the Turbo S or GT3 RS, aren't buying them to have fun with a Manual box, they are buying those models to be driving the fastest Porsches. If they were manual they would lose to a 458 Italia or AMG GT... With PDK they are faster than anything on the road that isn't a Hypercar. Think about it, really.

@malicalik 7 лет назад

Sorry for my kinda unrelated question, but it seemed like it was the right time, so here it goes. If 458 and amg gt are super cars, what is a 911 carrera/carrera s? It has less power yet it can almost match them in terms of acceleration which is really odd to me. And if a 911 carrera s is a super car, then what is a 911 turbo s?

@Riparay121 7 лет назад

malicalik 13 I remember reading a quote from Porsche saying that they are Sports Car makers. Every Porsche drives like a Sports car, whether it's a 911 or a Cayenne or a Panamera. If you drive a Mercedes GLE 63 AMG, as good a car as it is, there is nothing sporty about it other than the power, when compared to a Porsche equivalent. The Porsche Cayenne Turbo on the other hand, has sports car handling combined with power and amazing balance. Some Porsches have Supercar Performance such as the Turbo S and GT2 RS amd GT3 RS, but they are still classified as sports cars as they did start life with the classic Sports Car 911 Body. Wings and Air Vents can't turn a Sports Car into a Supercar. A Supercar car has to be Super in more than 1 way. In my opinion it has to have Super Performance - Top Porsches have Super Looks - Only Carrera GT + 918 have Super Sound - Only Carrera GT + 918 have Super Interior - Only Carrera GT + 918 have Super Price Tag - Top Porsches Have

@Alby911 8 лет назад

The changes only affect people who spend time on track, which would be a very small minority of drivers. For your average buyer, it's still an amazing car.

@shingnosis 8 лет назад

There is one big advantage to those turbos though. You should be able to tune that turbo engine and get another 75-125 bhp. Won't work in a naturally aspirated car. So you'd get 911 turbo level performance on the cheap. I expect the next 911 to be a hybrid with turbos and electric engine for torque fill.

@chrisc2233 8 лет назад

Where was this filmed?

@charleswilliams1127 8 лет назад

Wow. I like the new color change option. It goes from red to silver and back in about two seconds. My 2006 Carrera 4s just stays black. But seriously it is nice car, maybe when they get to be around three years old I'll trade up. Brand new is out of my budget.

@claus1225 7 лет назад

what color is the car?

@arturzykov8750 8 лет назад

Amazing

@chrisogrady28 8 лет назад

36 MPG!? What! My 2.2 litre NA Alfa Romeo gets 20MPG if I'm really careful. I'm not really careful.

@claus1225 7 лет назад

Is it GT silver or regular silver?

@sAmiZZle82 8 лет назад

This guy's reporting style almost resembles Richard Hammond's to a tee

@wheelsandwatches 8 лет назад

It felt like you were forcing yourself to say you like it???

@sysakPL 8 лет назад

XCAR/Carfection as lovely as your videos are in terms of filming + editing quality and narration, I've never heard you criticise anything. If there is any problem/feature /quality that many other reviewers outright don't like, you usually mention as "interesting", "controversial" and then proceed to sugarcoat it. I know what car companies do to journalists if they aren't enthusiastic enough about their products, (To anyone interested, look for the story Chris Harris published about Ferrari on Jalopnik in 2011) but the fact that you just love everything you test, and the " even if it's bad it's still good" approach makes me wonder whether you're a reliable source of information. And no, I don't really care about this or any other Porsche and don't mean specifically this video, just the general picture I got having seen almost everything you guys made.

@Joda-es5xd 8 месяцев назад

I agree, is an amazing engineering marvel.

@blaubak 8 лет назад

The 991.5 is a prelude for Porsche's line of Hybrids which will be on all future 911's once this initial testing is complete. Imagine the turbos being replaced by hybrid generators. The last 911 100% petrol versions are now complete. The new era of 911's is here.

@audiwankenobi361 8 лет назад

all these different Porsche models are starting to blend in with each other...

@FlashManinSpace 8 лет назад

Actually the engine is in the right place. Its the best place for optimum cooling. The right place for traction and cornering. The right place for aerodynamics. The right place for uncompromised comfort. It's everyone else that's wrong.

@TassieLorenzo 8 лет назад

+Flash Man ok.......

@buckorooster 8 лет назад

+Flash Man Tell that to Le Mans cars engineers

@peterbennpan7288 7 лет назад

Does anyone know were these roads are?

@SZ-ZS- 8 лет назад

haha, like that little jab at your change of name

@j600esh 8 лет назад

Was this XCAR? Please let us know why the name changed. Thanks

@bartni 7 лет назад

where is the location?

@AmericanBusinessman422 8 лет назад

what color is that

@karlvanginderdeuren4009 8 лет назад

I think you guys should have a go with Koenigsegg. I think they might let you drive an RS or maybe later, an Regera. Fifth gear, top gear and EVO (written article by Chris Harris) have criticized previous of their models and on the other hand Koenigsegg has a filled order book... so it is not that important to let a lot of journalists have a go in their current models. But I tend to think that the way Carfection makes its videos, should allign with the way Christian himself likes to present his products. So go for it! Thanks for all the content Karl

@JeDxDeVu 8 лет назад

No one, I repeat no one says the engine is in the wrong place anymore!

@AGC828 6 лет назад

Turbocharging to meet emissions regulations. I wonder about that. Since most of the major hi-per manufacturers still have at least one naturally aspirated car. Porsche still has the NA GT2 (I assume the GT3 RS, 2019 ver) will still be NA). So, if Porsche can still put out a 500 HP NA fat-6...what is the REAL reason why they chose to TT the Carrera's?? Why has Ferrari TT their 488 but not their 812 SUperfast? Why are Lamborghini's still NA? (e.g. Huracan's...Aventador's...etc.). Could Porsche not put a "de-turned" GT3 engine in the Carrera cars?? :)