2017 Honda Ridgeline Review: Is this new Honda a Car, Truck or Crossover? 

am i the only one to realise that honda has actually figured out that 80% of the trucks bought are never used for what there designed for honda basically designed a truck to do what we have been using 80% of the trucks we have purchased . this is an everyday drop the kids to school go to the gym pick up shopping go to the hardware store trusk and thats what is needed cause thats what 80% of the trucks purchased are used for

The video turned out great! Thanks Roman, it was a pleasure spending the day with you and I learned a lot about trucks.

I have owned other trucks and a 4Runner as well. I never used the other trucks to their fullest capacity. I just bought a 2017 Ridgeline. I love it! I do wish it had a little more ground clearance, but it is an awesome truck. I have used it to move from an apartment to a house, pull two cruising motorcycles on a flatbed, and drive-in on trails for backcountry hiking. It is extremely versatile, and perfect for someone not needing a work truck! I didn't know how much I love the idea of an in bed truck until I had one, and started using it everyday like you mentioned. I work in EMS and use it to store my gear to and from work all the time. I have also used it as a cooler for water bottles during outdoor training on hot days. I also flip up the back seat and use the flats floor space regularly. Most importantly, my family of three fits in there perfectly along with my 90 lb black lab!

LOL poor Honda dude. He actually did a great job putting up with all the criticism. FWIW I think the Ridgeline satisfies 90% of what most new truck owners do 90% of the time--including myself and I'm a F-150 owner.

One of your best videos. This long, in depth type of review is some of your best work. Please try to continue to make videos like this. Was like an entire 30 min TV show. Doesn't get better than that. Also the fact that Roman was a bit more critical than usual made it that much more interesting. Thanks guys!

I love the people who keep saying this isn't a real truck! Listen, back in the day a 'real truck' was a regular cab, bench seat, short or long bed, 2 wheel drive and a manual transmission. Ford didn't even offer 4WD in the F-150 until the 1970's. Then trucks began to evolve, in a really ugly bad way, into 4 door behemoths with leather interiors, sun roofs, navigation, (you can't even get a manual anymore), turbos (Eco-boost), and a price tag that's a down payment on a house. The fact that the Ridgeline has a unibody is called 'moving forward'. Honda doesn't build vehicles that people want? Seriously?! Is that why I see so many Civics, Accords, CRV's and Odysseys on the road? The fact that I can't go off roading and take on Rubicon trails with a Ridgeline is something I can live with. My biggest obstacle while driving is dealing with the idiots on 287 every day coming home from work, something I really don't need 4WD for... I'll take the 25 mpg, you can keep your "truck" that gets 18 mpg on a good day... Well done Honda, can't wait to get mine!

This is a strange review. It's like you are trying to argue how the truck isn't good and the Honda reps just banter back and say how it's great... Weird.

I have a truck and always have. They are right about one thing.....95% of the time I just drive it back and forth to work and I don't think I have ever done anything that would exceed the capabilities of this truck. I actually like it and will consider it when it is for sale.

for all the haters out there, 95% of truck owners only comute to work on freeways, and haul something once a year, they just have dreams of grandure towing there mega yacht and 65logs, this is practical

This truck does a job that 95% of customers will use it for very well. Smart differentiation by Honda. Most trucks don't see extreme off road, ever. It makes sense to focus on road worthiness first and foremost. Real men don't need a truck to verify their "manhood"

I loved how Roman approached this review. A lot of people see the Ridgeline as a wannabe truck, me included, and Roman asked all the questions most people would ask. I came into this video with a mindset that if I wanted a truck, I'd probably buy a "real" one, but after watching the video I might actually buy one. No, this is not the ultimate off road machine but it does the work most people would need out of a truck.

No one has mentioned the low wheel wells in the bed. That is great for hauling full sheets of plywood.

Honda obviously made this for a special group of buyers. It's obviously NOT a Colorado and it's not supposed to be. It's an alternative that you even want or don't want. No big deal. No reason for endless "well it can't do this, this and this" arguments. It is a little pricey though. Oh and really...the fact that the tailgate is not dampened is a non-issue. Why carry on about it? Unless you're a 95 year old granny with arms as weak as a shrew, you don't need a dampened tailgate. I don't have one on my 2014 full size pickup and like I said...NOT an issue at all.

Roman I think it is about time you and yes your channel come into the 21st century with the rest of the world. This is a innovative state of the art product that is well over due to the marketplace.

This is a nice truck. That however is why there are different brands. You choose the one that suits you.

It saves gas, is at honda quality and can carry my motorcycle...what's wrong with it?

It is a crossover, but instead of being a crossover SUV, its a crossover truck. That's perfectly fine...people need to get out of their little boxed in categories...crossovers work well for most people so I don't see the issue with offering a crossover with a bed. I'm still not sure it will sell well, but I don't think thats the fault of the vehicle.

Ive never seen Roman this happy in any Japanese made vehicle. I have this weird feeling that he wants to hate but cant help but love it.

Does it matter whether it is a 'car' or 'truck', or 'crossover', or whatever? It fits my needs/wants better than any other vehicle design. Thanks for the review.

Different, but it definitely seems practical in its own way

if they were to put a Ford logo on this truck and call it a Ranger people would be lined up around the corner to buy one of these things people are idiots

lets be real. this what most truck drivers need. obviously not for the 10% of truck drivers we actually NEED a truck

I just test drove a new Ridgeline up here in Canada. The reason why I am considering such a non-truckish truck, is simply because 5 days of the week I need a comfortable car. It isn't till the weekend when I can load up my dirt bikes and go for a nice ride. Very comfortable, very spacious, and very nice to look at, but the price is rather high. I am planning on ordering one, and hopefully it will serve me well with my 160km daily commute.

Honda definitely has a niche market with this Ridgeline. Funny 20 years ago I brainstormed the day a front wheel drive pickup would hit the road. I applaud Honda for being different, and considering Honda's reputation for reliability, the Ridgeline will definitely be worth a look.

This is a car with some truck-like capabilities. It's for people that have nothing heavy to tow or haul. If I didn't have 7000lbs of boat, trailer, and gear to tow I would consider it. I still need the bed for greasy, dirty things around the house, as I have a 21,000sqft of yard to take care of. All the rest of the time, I would get to enjoy a more car-like drive and parking, plus an extra 6 miles to the gallon over my behemoth Tundra.

So, my wife just bought the 2019 crv this spring and we LOVE that vehicle...I would hands down buy a Honda truck...BUT...I just cannot get behind the exterior...this sounds dumb....but it’s not trucky enough looking. I’m an f150 owner and I love my truck...part of my love for it is that it just looks the part...when I drive it I feel nostalgic...reminds me of my dad and grandfather when I would ride in their trucks....Honda, you change the body style and I’m in....lol but I’m one customer...if the masses love it, you’re winning!

I was lucky to film this awesome vehicle recently and I really liked it… I might even replace my RSX with it! :)

I think Honda has done a pretty decent job with this. They are taking a different approach to the truck market by making a cross over look like a truck and have some truck like functions. I think they will definitely sell a decent number in urban areas. Obviously someone who needs a truck should not even look at this, but if they are looking for a cross over, this is definitely an option to consider.

I've been waiting a long time for a vehicle like this. Just enough truck to suit my needs.

Roman, I'm not a fan of the 2nd generation Ridgeline, but you need to check your bias at the door man! I can tell from your body language and inflection that you like this midsize truck, but your personal bias is getting in the way of performing a good review. Of course "Honda Pro. Jason" has a bias as well; so maybe that helps this video review a little.

I feel like people really gloss over a couple trucky things about this. The payload of this is 400lbs more than a base tacoma, 100lbs less than the v6 Tacoma, and it's the same as a Colorado. For towing, it's 1,500lbs MORE than the colorado v6 without the towing package. Tailgate weight rating is 300lbs, tacoma is 200lbs. And, of course, lets not forget it's the only mid size that can lay full sheets of drywall and plywood flat in the bed. This is especially important for drywall.

Seriously? You have a phone with a stopwatch and you conduct a 0-60 test by counting "one one-thousand, two on-thousand..."? Why?

I don't mind that it's not technically a truck. It performs enough of the functionality that a traditional truck provides and then some more with the comfortable ride and technology packages. As a guy who's not a farmer or of other similar trades, this vehicle is perfect for me. Thanks for the review

I think I would rather pick this over chevy and toyota. Its car like, but still with a bed to move stuff. Plus you gotta love that trunk at the back, I can think of tons of uses for it where I live.

So lets me get his straight for all the people that bitch this is not a "Truck". So to be a truck it needs to be.. Solid framed, Get poor fuel economy, Be uncomfortable, Be RWD in a 2x4 trim and be noisy inside. So the fact that it can tow, has a v6 (that has more power than Fords v8 4.6) has a bed on the back to hall things, can tow and goes off road... all things a truck does is completely irrelevant to "Truck" owners. No wonder the rest of the world does not understand "Mercia's" love for a out dated concept. Kinda sad to be honest but oh well I will enjoy my "CAR" like truck on my trips to Home Depot in a snow storm.

GREAT REVIEW. You and Jason hit it off. Jason is certainly an asset to Honda, and to this video! and OH, TFL has the best reviews of anyone!

Most people call a Pilot and Explorer SUVs and not crossovers because of their size. I'm fine with calling the Ridgeline a truck because it has a pickup bed. Is it the best for towing or off-roading, no, but neither are the 4 cylinder 2wd trucks. The Ridgeline looks like it's a capable family truckster, towing kids and hauling diapers, and I've sold many full size trucks to families for just that.

No matter what you think of the new Honda truck, I am just glad small trucks are back. I had a Ford Sport Trac for years and loved it. This is a great segment, maybe we will see more brands jump on the band wagon. Its nice to have a vehicle that drives like a small SUV but has the added benefits of an open truck bed. Maybe its not a real truck, but I like the idea.

Roman this could probably be your best review because you didn't try to stroke the ego or a new truck manufacturer. You gave it to Honda pure and simple stating how its not really a truck and how you pointed out ways it isn't a truck. You nailed this review especially when you called it a car and caught Honda officials calling it a car. I hope you keep this same mind set when trying it in the Ike gauntlet. You see the Ridgeline for what it is and dont see it for what its trying to be.

Lets be honest here. The Ridgeline is a ute. You're not going to haul horses with it but it will haul a couple bales of hay if you need to. For a lot of people this is a good choice if you're being honest about what you use your vehicle for. I drove a 3/4 ton diesel for years and loved it, but it was way more than I ever really used. I still love trucks, but a ute like this would work just fine for me.

I personally love the hate.The fact that I can ruin someones day just because they don't like the ridgeline makes me laugh. I love my Ridgeline!

Front wheel drive is genus, I had a Dakota rear drive only always get stuck in snow because the bed has no weight. Honda is a lot more intelligent car maker, solving problems American companies never change for centuries.

The future of trucks. It might seen bad, but this is not a bad thing guys.

This red shirt guy is very enthusiastic and deeply understand about his product

Much better design than last iteration.

Man, Roman was really working these guys hard. I think I love this TRUCK though. Yes, a real winner!

Married, father of two, own a pair of jet skis, enjoys camping. Perfect vehicle for the suburban lifestyle my family exudes. Be it buying mulch at the local big box or taking the family out of the city for a few days this vehicle will meet my needs. Although my SUV allows me to accomplish most of these same goals the Ridgeline will offer a different type of versatility. The built in "trunk" offers compartmentalized storage that no other truck does, a big plus in my eyes. If you need an F-150 by all means buy one, but the Ridgeline offers features and refinement that many MEN look for in a car. Just because I don't need the ability to pull a backhoe to the job site doesn't imply that I don't occasionally need a bed.

I like this truck. Honda did their research well. It is not meant to do "real truck things", but is more for the city driver who needs to move a couple of things from time to time and do so with style, refinement, and comfort. Good job!

There's a bed in the back because it's so boring you will need to go to sleep.

I usually enjoy watching TFL Car and Truck channels but the over-the-top act Roman put on in this video, with the constant giggling and outbursts, etc., was just annoying. I don't understand why he thought that was an improvement over his regular reviews. Please let Nathan review the Ridgeline after driving it for a few days.

I use my truck to tow a 5,500lb trailer several times every summer including up and over significant mountain passes. Because I love trailering I purchased a "real truck", and yes that only accounts for 10 - 20%. Yes the reason I got the truck was that "10%" which you guys are referring to, or negatively referring to. Very happy I did so too and a Ridgeline wouldn't cut it for that 10% of the time I am referring to

I've never been much of a truck guy, but this new Ridgeline looks quite slick in black.

Had a Ridgeline for 5 years & love the damn thing!

It depends on how you define a truck. It's got a bed in it that dirt can be thrown into without messing up the interior, so to me it's a truck. I don't get too hung up on what things are called, but more on what they do and how they can be used.

Sooo the Ridgeline is basically the start of the crossover truck era.. What a time to be alive..

the storage bin and the bed speakers are the best part about this truck. I was imagining all the beer I can put in that storage bin

i still cant believe this thing was allowed to be made, i mean godamn has anyone said that thing is fucking ugly

this is more like a new age el Camino or the yutes from Australia

Jason hit the nail on the head. This is not a "tool" truck. It's a truck for suburbanites like me who can't afford both a sedan and a pickup. I currently drive a Toyota Avalon, and it's an amazing car, but it can't tow a small camper or haul equipment from the tool rental shop. For those few times I might need a truck, I'd have to rent one. Far too many SUVs or crossovers offer a tow package only as an option. The Ridgeline offers the best of both worlds, and the tow package is integrated into the vehicle. That's what I call a win-win. This is now at the top of my shopping list should I decide to replace my Avalon.

Kids these days when they hear the word "truck" they immediately think Monster Truck. lol

This truck is so bad ass. It fits a 4x8 that is huge. Honda made something that is not like anything you can currently buy. It looks cool and most importantly... It's a damn Honda. The best cars money can buy. Look on the used market. People that own ridge lines do not give them up. The towing thing is a pissing contest. It can tow 5,000 lbs across the country. And do it for 500,000 miles. It has completely original ideas and is outside the box and that's what makes it a Honda. I have a element and it is the most amazing vehicle ever. It is as big as a escalade in the inside and much smaller on the outside. That is Honda engineering

Only a tool would describe a truck as a tool, because ALL vehicles are tools, and putting importance on large size rather than performance, a sign of personal inadequacy. The definition of a truck is a vehicle designed for moving cargo, not how crude, how massive, or how unrefined it is. Drive train design and capacity are irrelevant. A rear bed is what defines a pickup truck, not the passenger compartment. The idea that a good tool should handle crudely "like a truck" only shows how low the bar has been set for trucks. Ride quality/driveability should be as important as hauling capacity in any truck, because SAFELY transporting cargo and occupants is the primary objective. The arbitrary classification of light trucks by bed carrying weight capacity doesn't exclude the Ridgeline from the 1500 lb class. The question isn't whether it is a "truck", but for which consumers this vehicle provides the right amount of utility for the price. Personally, I think that it is too expensive and has too fragile an interior for a vehicle used primarily to move cargo, but the rear seat is a plain statement that isn't its intended function. Its market is upper middle class small families and workmen with light/occasional cargo moving needs. For any other group, the lifecycle cost of ownership makes no economic sense. Unlike many people, I prefer a vehicle with the simplest construction, avoiding "keyless" start that requires an electronic key, touch screen controls that require taking eyes off the road (inckuding navigatuon, which should be voice ptompt only when driving by federal mandate). The entire idea of infotainment built into a vehicke is ridiculous, when better tech is carried in most peoples pockets. Bluetooth capable basic I/O with just amp and simple manual controls makes much more sense. The interior of vehicle should be adequately comfortable, and durable, easy to maintain and restore, as should EVERY system in a modern vehicle. It makes little sense to buy a 30K midsize vehicle that wears out in less than 15 years of light to moderate use, or for the aggregate cost of maintenance over a 10 year/2000,000 mile period excluding consumables to exceed the resale value of the vehicle at any time during that period. If people wouldn't treat pickup trucks like disposable toolboxes, but as a major investments that require care, most of the midsize trucks sold in this US today would meet this standard, while NONE of their 1950's ancestors would. it is

As a Ridgeline owner their are only two things I wish were better thought out. The rear doors only open 22 inches (30%). Also the tailgate does not have a lock so if you put on a Tonneau cover you can still gain access to the bed because the tailgate does not have a lock.

It does not look very nice but having the new pilot, I can tell you that the new engine is totally amazing, powefull and low consumption.

This truck is perfect for anyone who likes trucks. Obviously not for people who work in the construction industry and use trucks for heavy duty or heavy duty hauling. This or the Tacoma is perfect besides that, It doesnt make you less of a man owning one of these lol So many guys out there who just buys a truck to look tougher and never use it like one

This is not a Truck. If I hear _class leading_ one more time I'm gonna vomit. Class of what? Class refers to a group of similar objects. This is a one of a kind item that pretends to be a truck. What a joke !

The way you kept messing with your buddy made this probably one of my top 10 TFL videos. 😂

my ridgeline-owning coworker said that the ridgeline is basically an anti-truck truck and this review exudes that. that being said, I ain't goin off road, I drive entirely in the city or highways between Texan cities, I don't tow, but I want a lot of cargo space for project materials I haul in-city and for things I bring to conventions, concerts, and other events between cities: this looks like it's designed for me.

The focus in these comments has become "lets pile on when the trend seems to be going negative". We know that Jason is a Honda guy, but admits that he has little truck experience, so his views must be accepted accordingly. If this wannabe mid size Ridgeline does not suit your needs or definition, then select an alternative, but no real need to be trashing Honda's concept. The marketplace will prove the success or failure for this 2nd generation......Honda builds great products. If this crew cab is not to your liking, then go for something else.

i actually like these. the tailgate and box designs are hits. i dont really tow so the big v8 rwd isnt necessary and the interior is nice. gor some reason everyone hates on the fwd but every suv now are the exact same. this isnt a work truck or wrangler in the bush, but for a daily driver with the occasional load this does the job fine.

I don’t care what anyone else calls it, I call it mine! Not an easy trick, because of its price! After all these years, I’ll be damned if I will recklessly endanger my new vehicle! Bought Honda’s tonneau cover, and trunk dividers, & floor mats, by Weatherteck. I’ve had all the other window accessories, didn’t use them, don’t even care if I have a radio, interferes with conversing. $36,000 is more than I wanted to spend, but after 600 miles, I’m satisfied and impressed with what I got. The only vehicle I’ve driven, that I look for excuses to take it out for a drive. I appreciate having the 19.5 gal gas tank.

The reality is, this is a very intelligently designed and useful truck. There are a lot of folks who say this isn't a truck, but it tows, hauls, and goes offroad. Honda isn't doing the same old straight axle, drop down tailgate, denting/scratching bed, uncomfortable riding vehicle. Theirs is for the person who appreciates the thought and engineering that goes into a good, usable vehicle.

so much haters feeling owned by this ridge line, calm down. it's just a mid size truck.

Looking at this Truck and all others currently out there, I would have to say this is a great option for very many families. Not everyone wants a gas guzzler as a daily driver. Today's midsize trucks were classified as full size trucks 10 years ago.... Why do we keep insisting on increasing the size of Trucks and their engines? Its asinine. This is a good fit for many people who want the functionality of a truck when they need it and comforts of a car for all the other drives. Haters are gonna hate, but whatever. If you like it buy it. It Honda and you cant go wrong there.

Finally, a truck that responds and drives like a car. No more "I like trucks, but it only feels nice when loaded."

so from reading the comments here it sounds like if your not a farmer, tow a yacht or livestock, and do not need to truck to compensate your man hood. this would probably be a good vehicle for you. Trucks are ment to get stuff done not to play off road . If your family man who has the occasional house project and likes to go hunting this seems like it would be ideal.

it looks like a crossover between a small SUV and small truck. that said, for those of us who don't need an F350 this could be a very good alternative. potentially.

I've enjoyed TFL Car and TFL Truck for years now, but Roman is getting really annoying. All he does in his videos now is argue with people. Roman should just stick to editing and let Nathan and Andre do all the work in front of the camera.

I'm a 'truck guy', and I think the Ridgeline is pretty awesome, and it looks clean & sharp (especially with side/step rails & premium wheels) --- And why, exactly, do all 'trucks' have to have a shitty ride, loud interior, minimal technology, and a volume button in order to be considered a 'truck' (that's absurd)??? I'd much rather have a comfortable, rugged, practical truck with a great interior & technology (not to mention safety features!), as opposed to having an interior that looks, drives & functions like a tractor! Hats off to Honda, they built the best mid-sized truck, period.

Old vid but anyone who’s driven a RWD pickup on even a newly wet road would appreciate having FWD.

Not FTL's finest review. Roman can be pretty annoying. He leaves no doubt in this video.

Roman, please perform a matchup review between Tacoma and this 'truck'.

First, I am a Honda owner. Secondly. I have sold trucks from pickups to 18 wheelers since 1974. I understand everything you are saying, but don't try and sell this as a pickup. When chevrolet made the elcamino, they didn't try and pass it off as a truck. Even in the manufacturing, it was considered a car. It was built in the same factory, on the same chassis, as the Monte Carlo and Malibu. They can disguise this all they want, but it is far more of an suv than a real truck. 275 hp and 5000 pounds towing capacity isn't enough to work. It will pull a bass boat, but the V6 still won't do it as well as a v8. People that buy this are not truck buyers. Period. It is a family car. One more thing. Torque is given in foot pounds. Not pounds feet. That was started about 20 years ago by a briish scientist. Every engineering school in the US teaches foot pounds. At least they did for about 100 years. Oh, all full size pickups can take a 4 by 8 sheet of plywood. This isn't a midsize truck. It is a lot larger than the Tacoma.

I’m not a big fan of Honda vehicles for many reasons, but Ridgeline would be the first one I would own. It’s a sensible and practical daily driver. I personally owned two trucks: Tacoma and Sequioa. In fact, I will purchase the Ridgeline for my wife in the near future. I bet it’s a very comfortable vehicle for a long road trip.

WTF is with it with truck prices...

When I thought the old ridgeline was ugly they made it even worse

It's a minivan that can haul plywood and sheetrock, do some light off-roading, gets good mileage, is safe, and comfortable for traveling. I think it fills a niche.

What a bunch of goobers saying this isn't a truck. If you're idea of a so-called truck is a full-sized GM, FORD, or RAM.....then carry on buying what puts you back in the shop! The Ridgeline will likely take care of everyone's needs, but do so with leading safety, reliability, performance, technology & comfort in the mid-sized category. Looks can be subjective.....but I think it looks pretty sharp, too.

Makes me think of those jettas with the bed conversion.

Why does Roman repeat the same corny lines over and over? I can't stand watching videos with him in it.

I actually think this makes sense. It is perfect for a certain target market. I know a lot of people that buy big trucks that are off road capable but the trucks spend their entire life on the road. After staying in Europe for a while, I noticed trucks were almost non existent. Only small efficient cars there. This truck is perfect for people who want a fuel efficient vehicle that's comfortable and can haul things for home improvement projects or whatever. For people that need a full size truck, go with a ford or Chevy.

I love this truck or crossover I drive a 05 Tacoma with 10 inch lift that gets about 13 miles to the gallon and would really consider giving this a try

I'd choose any mid size truck over the Ridgeline. This is not a truck.

The biggest complaints I had with my 2007 Ridgeline seem to have been addressed: MPG, and interior fit and finish. The Ridgeline is NOT going to replace the Tacoma as an off-road truck, nor is it going to replace a Frontier as a nice utilitarian vehicle like the previous generation was. The Risgeline is, and forever will be, an urbanites truck. It is for those city dwellers who want a fuel efficient truck and is easy to park and manage in the city for someone who isn't familiar with driving a truck in such conditions.

With all the criticism I've expressed towards this vehicle, I have to admit that I'd love to have one. Again, though, that goes back to my previous point - I don't need a true truck, I'm not in construction and don't haul heavy stuff on daily basis; I don't go hard-core off roading. On the other hand, I could appreciate the user-friendly features for the kind of day-to-day use I drive my current car for.

RU-vidr comments are either "Wow this is practical and can do everything any other midsize truck can do for me" or "IF IT AINT A V8 WITH 4WD LOCKERS LIFT N MUDDERS IT AINT A REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL TRUK!"

No frame, No truck. Anything with a unibody is not a truck

This Jason guy is really damn annoying, he won't shut up about the fact it's SO GREAT just because it's a Honda...

adaptive cruise control is enough to put this over other smaller trucks...if you are hauling anything long distances on a highway you would LOVE adaptive cruise. If you have never driven with it you have no idea. it is a new world.

I was always waiting for Honda to build a truck. When the Ridgeline first came out I was really excited. I owned a 2007 and while it was great around town, it sucked off road! Too much electronic intervention. The traction control would prevent the truck from climbing a grade and the anti lock brakes almost got me killed trying to descend the side of a mountain. They basically wouldn't allow the brakes to function while descending in sandy loam. Even in first gear with the e-brake engaged the truck exceeded 50 mph straight down the grade! I thought I was going to die! I wish Honda would use some of their engineering prowess and build a proper truck. I think the Tacoma is the best all around mid size truck right now.