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2017 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 Review | MC Commute 

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Motorcyclist staffer Zack Courts is always arriving to office after his commute with a bunch of opinions about the bike he’s riding. Too much this, not enough that, and occasionally has some decent insights. We thought some of it might help consumers or entertain enthusiasts, so we strapped a camera and microphone to the side of his helmet and told him to turn it on when he leaves his house. A lot of him talking in his helmet is complaining about drivers, yelling at red lights, and wondering why billboards aren’t more expensive. But sometimes he actually talks about the bike, and those are the parts we keep. Got a bike you would like to see discussed? Let us know and we’ll send him home on that one next.
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It’s no secret we’re always trying to get our staff to work a little harder. Especially the ones that always seem to have too much to say. “Write it down!” we always shout at each other. Zack Courts is a classic case, always arriving to office after his commute with a bunch of opinions about the bike he’s riding. Too much this, not enough that, and occasionally has some decent insights that we thought might help consumers or entertain enthusiasts.
So we strapped a GoPro camera and microphone to his helmet and told him to turn it on when he leaves his house. A lot of him talking in his helmet is complaining about drivers, yelling at red lights, and wondering why billboards aren't more expensive. But sometimes he actually talks about the bike, and those are the parts we keep. Got a bike you would like to see discussed? Let us know and we'll send him home on that one next.
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@jacky1tse422
@jacky1tse422 5 лет назад
I like how the exhaust sound really smooth, i mean i like my bike to be loud, but this is new to me that i appreciated when the exhaust is smooth and quiet.
@Lucians_Sword
@Lucians_Sword 6 лет назад
Dude this video was amazing. Just the right amount of education, good pacing, fun wheelies and all around exciting to watch! Keep making more vids like this please :D
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@mriegger
@mriegger 4 года назад
Love Zack's enthusiasm in this one. Moved the Ninja 1000 to the top of my list.
@rckev224
@rckev224 6 лет назад
I did a demo ride of a 2011 Ninja 1000 and loved it. Such a great combination of performance and comfort. I can only imagine how good it is now after two updates.
@smg1707
@smg1707 6 лет назад
I bought one in June and love it. A great value and great ST. Two road trips so far and just clicked over 3k on the odo.
@avgGamer662
@avgGamer662 4 года назад
How is comfort level for long rides? 200-300km in one stretch.
@prashantkrishnankutty6038
@prashantkrishnankutty6038 4 года назад
Mileage
@NvincibleIronMan
@NvincibleIronMan 6 лет назад
LOL for recognizing a sports car driver for enjoying a curve! That was awesome! You really are a racer for life, bro! 😜🤙
@djbgatekeeper
@djbgatekeeper 6 лет назад
Great review thanks... pick mine up Saturday 5th May 👍👍
@ozarksbackroads5484
@ozarksbackroads5484 6 лет назад
Nice video as usual...I would like to see a MC Commute on the Kawasaki Versys 1000...keep it up.....:)
@maniakaz
@maniakaz 6 лет назад
Even the older N1k's needed taller gearing. I geared up 1 tooth in the front and switched to a 190/55 (from 190/50) rear tire on my 2k12. The combination really made the bike much nicer for commutes on the freeway in the southwest US where speed limits can be 70-75mph. Even with it geared up it has no issues picking up the front end in the first couple gears with just the throttle.
@AkaAndyKnuckles
@AkaAndyKnuckles 6 лет назад
maniakaz Thinking about getting a 190/55 instead of the 190/50 on my old Yamaha MT01. How was the difference?
@iTxip
@iTxip 6 лет назад
you will find it much more flickable, and you will have better grip when leaned, if you do a lot of straight line stuff (motorways etc...) you may square them if they are soft, but since that is a heavy bike maybe something in the sport touring range, try something like the metzeler z8, angel GT, PR4 in 190/55, the first miles you may feel it leans faster than you like but eventually you will like the handling better
@maniakaz
@maniakaz 6 лет назад
Steering was lighter (more flickable) and as a bonus, it's easier to install than the 190/50 (I went back to a 190/50 on my last tire since I needed it fast as I got a cut in my rear tire). It also effects the speedo/odo (well, gearing too) by 3%-ish.
@kafael8362
@kafael8362 4 года назад
I was gonna get a 650 but I feel like I might as well go ahead and get the 1000 instead of settling. Plus I plan on doing some traveling so this is perfect. Great review!
@stampedfish
@stampedfish 6 лет назад
I have the 2015 ninja 1000 and love it. I bought it as a leftover, I wanted the new one but the price was right for the leftover bike. Nice to see a down to earth review.
@kevinv6559
@kevinv6559 6 лет назад
best bike in the category and best of both worlds
@chuckweeks8906
@chuckweeks8906 6 лет назад
Kevin Van de voorde s1000xr?
@kevinv6559
@kevinv6559 6 лет назад
Chuck Weeks no, this one
@NigelGriff
@NigelGriff 6 лет назад
That is certainly not the same category, BMW S1000XR is $8000 more expensive, at least in Australia
@sleeper.simulant7327
@sleeper.simulant7327 5 лет назад
Kevin Van de voorde out of the 650 category Honda’s CBR650F smashes the Ninja 650. Bummed Honda doesn’t make a big displacement sport tourer anymore, the VFR800 lacked the power the Ninja 1000 has, Honda dominates the middleweight class where Kawi’s got the heavyweight. Honda also seems to have overall better fit and finish to...
@sleeper.simulant7327
@sleeper.simulant7327 5 лет назад
MGTOW DIRT BIKER I can agree with that. Yamaha can build a gem of a engine. If you ever follow one though you’ll have a epileptic seizure from how bad the tail light vibrates on a Yamaha lol. Kawi builds a quality product, solid engine choices, reliable. I would agree that there fit and finish I behind only Honda in terms of the big Japanese brands, I went to a Yamaha/Kawi dealer and sat on both. The MT07 is definitely the more popular choice around my area cause they are cheap, but the z650/ninja 650 felt better.
@boeing737d
@boeing737d 6 лет назад
Yeeeeep! I have been eyeing on Ninja 1000.. can’t wait to trade in my 650 for the 1000. Power baby!
@lovelessissimo
@lovelessissimo 4 года назад
That's my current situation as well. I do love my 650, though.
@nunyabusiness896
@nunyabusiness896 3 года назад
Did you do it? Do you like it better? The power seems cool, but the 650 is already right at the line of being as heavy as I would like, I don't know if another 50 lbs would push it over the edge. Also, what about insurance costs, are they substantially higher? I'm not a highway squid so I'd only have here and there chances to really enjoy the extra power, so I'd just want to make sure I'm not giving up everything I like about the 650.
@boeing737d
@boeing737d 3 года назад
NunyaBusiness I love the way 650 does. Since this last time I replied; my situation changed. I gave away my 650 becuase of my knee replacement. Also throughout the time owning my 650, I realized that 1000 is too much. 650 is perfect set up for many things you can do. Now sport bikes is not happening for me so I had to change my tactics for riding; I’m going for Indian Bobber, 1200 cc. More power and it’s a cruiser. Something my knee can handle stretching out
@Mackathne
@Mackathne 3 года назад
@@boeing737d You'll love the scout man
@boeing737d
@boeing737d 3 года назад
@@Mackathne oh dude. I can’t wait. Either Matte white with black trims or Blue on black. Either way. Bad ass
@emac417
@emac417 6 лет назад
Enjoyed your video! Thanks!
@emersonmayeaux2482
@emersonmayeaux2482 2 года назад
Just picked up a 2017 model last week. Love it so far. Power and handling are excellent. Gearing is a bit on the short side but she still cruises nicely on the interstate. I might try a sprocket change once I wear out my first set of tires just to make the gearing a little taller.
@rideforrestride
@rideforrestride 6 лет назад
Really great ride good talk thanks!
@movingforward6099
@movingforward6099 6 лет назад
We need to see you commute on kawasaki concours 14! Oh yeah!
@h3rutirta
@h3rutirta 6 лет назад
i use to have this mean machine back on 2016. love it
@Siper2
@Siper2 6 лет назад
I really like the 1000, one of my favorite bikes. I was excited to see this pop up in my MC feed! Zack, how do you feel about this vs. the Yamaha FJR1300ES?
@jakebennett28
@jakebennett28 5 лет назад
love how you talk with your left hand
@zacharyhazard6646
@zacharyhazard6646 2 года назад
Man I've watched this review 3 times now, probably watch it again as the long winter is just getting started. Bought the bike in December and rode it all of 3 miles before storing. I like how you put it through it's paces. Hey, aren't you from Vermont? Cheers, Z from VT
@TheDeadeye5
@TheDeadeye5 6 лет назад
former versys 650 owner and current versys 1000 owner here... where are the videos of you and ari riding the versys 1000, man? would love to hear the input of you two. it's fun watching your brotherly banter on the "on two wheels" episodes. hope you two see this, big fans of the channel. keep it up and keep the rubber side down.
@Matt-ix6ne
@Matt-ix6ne 6 лет назад
Great video as always! That's very surprising the bike only gets 35 MPG in town. Is that common in the 1000cc catagory? I'm getting around 54 MPG on my FZ-09 in town
@buzzlightyear3849
@buzzlightyear3849 6 лет назад
God Zach you had me rolling when you where explaining the imu at 6:00
@darrincook9679
@darrincook9679 6 лет назад
I just bought 2017 1000. It’s a beast. Enjoy it, even stock
@eastbaymauiboy
@eastbaymauiboy 6 лет назад
I did the whole Kawasaki test ride thing a month or so ago. I really like the Ninja 1000 overall. It was my favorite bike of the day and I rode all of them. I like Superbike power too, that's why I almost bought an Aprilia Tuono. Self and financial preservation forced me to get an xsr900 instead. It rips plenty
@alexwotherspoon5630
@alexwotherspoon5630 5 лет назад
Top vid 👌😉 Which did you prefer...... This or the GSXS 1000?
@AkaAndyKnuckles
@AkaAndyKnuckles 6 лет назад
Zack, the kind of guy who does his job while on the commute.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 6 лет назад
Request for bike review: The Honda CBR 650 F (potentially vs the older CBR 600 F that it has replaced). I really want to know what the bike is like, and why it is priced higher than the model it replaces, when the spec sheet tells that it offers less performance and parts compared to the older model. I've only been able to find reviews from India etc, or some very vague American reviews that barely contain any info - and no riding. I trust you guys for your unbiased opinion and in-depth review style.
@terrywhite3868
@terrywhite3868 3 года назад
I changed rear sprocket from 41 to 39 great improvement
@KeystoneTexan
@KeystoneTexan 6 лет назад
One of my favorite bikes! I might have to sell my jackpot and buy one.
@caseycook4891
@caseycook4891 5 лет назад
Great review. Did you prefer it over the Ducati supersport?
@maxmillion125
@maxmillion125 6 лет назад
Zack if you had a choice between the Ninja 1000 or the Kawasaki Z900, which one would you buy and why?!
@klx400sr69
@klx400sr69 6 лет назад
The SUV that does a U turn and then switches over two lanes in front of you at 5:45. One reason im hesitant on getting another street bike. Yes, i know you were getting on it a little but they crossed lanes without as much as a signal. Anyway, nice video and bike! Currently looking at either Ninja 1000 or Versys 1000 if i decide to pull the trigger.
@lucasrees7076
@lucasrees7076 6 лет назад
Please do a review of the Kawasaki H2 SX SE!!! I'm dying to see what you thing about it!
@timothy9596
@timothy9596 6 лет назад
The two bikes I'm considering are the Verses 1000LT and the Ninja 1000. Would love to see a commute on that and your opinion of which one you like better.
@Proto2o
@Proto2o 6 лет назад
I love my 2015 Ninja 1000
@svmik
@svmik 6 лет назад
I loved it before it got written off...
@Beauchee
@Beauchee 6 лет назад
I miss my 2011 Ninja 1000 :(, that 2017 makes me want to go buy a new one !
@BangBangFeuer
@BangBangFeuer 6 лет назад
Awsome bike!
@oso1165
@oso1165 6 лет назад
would love to see you do the new 2018 Honda cb650f
@omglooord
@omglooord 6 лет назад
One simple question. Is this bike comfortable for the passenger as well? Really like the looks of this bike.
@vonhonderwitz
@vonhonderwitz 5 лет назад
Please do a review on the Kawasaki H2 SX, trying to decide between that and this Ninja 1000.
@markwilson8022
@markwilson8022 6 лет назад
Hi I heard you comment on mid corner handling being a bit hard to keep down, in the UK we found front end a bit hard and if you back it of 1 full turn , it's makes so much more difference
@toyfan2812
@toyfan2812 6 лет назад
Really glad to see this. I own a ninja 650r and looking to upgrade. Curious on the insurance though.
@zackphelps3052
@zackphelps3052 6 лет назад
Andrew Davis for reference I had an Fz07 and upgraded to a speed Triple. Similar upgrade I'd say. My insurance for for the Speed was 300 dollars cheaper a year because it's an older bike I think
@KeystoneTexan
@KeystoneTexan 6 лет назад
Do the fairings do a good job on keeping the wind off of your legs
@Arabeon
@Arabeon 6 лет назад
Since you tried both the Z1000SX 2017 and the Ducati Supersport 2017, which one is worth the money?
@st1100boy
@st1100boy 6 лет назад
How bout a commute on a Husky 701 Supermoto?
@milspecrider
@milspecrider 6 лет назад
I also love my 2013 N1K, she’s a real beefy beast when she wants to be.
@CPUspeed
@CPUspeed 6 лет назад
Can't wait for the 900RS. As a kid I had to settle for a KH500. Settle? it was a 2stroke ;) Now it's looking like I can get that 900.
@JonLong
@JonLong 6 лет назад
+Motorcyclist Magazine - Thanks for posting! I'm looking at a 2017 Ninja 1000 as my next bike. Currently riding a 2015 FZ-09 with 15k commuting and touring miles. How does the Ninja compare to the '15 FZ-09 in terms of power and engine smoothness?
@yuraymarstewart
@yuraymarstewart 4 года назад
Would choose this over a z900 for a 16 mile (to and from) commute and some fun on the weekends?
@lianivanbolhuis150
@lianivanbolhuis150 6 лет назад
A talk about the differences between the Ducati 696/796/821 and which is the best bike for its price?
@DearMajesty
@DearMajesty 6 лет назад
Woo! A new video!
@ken8027880
@ken8027880 6 лет назад
Can you compare it with the suzuki gsx s1000f?
@dry509
@dry509 5 лет назад
What about valve adjustment frequency? And not a lot of experienced techs at dealers to do same? Issue with most Japanese or European bikes.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 6 лет назад
All it needs is cruise control, and an aftermarket exhaust. I can understand why the Versys 1k handles differently. It has a totally different riding position and front end. Both bikes feel big when your on them, but the Ninja just feels like a big comfy sportibke, the Versys feels like a big but strangely light touring bike, unlike the Versys 650 which just feels like a tall, comfy sportbike (at least my Versys does).
@ronaldgoyena3679
@ronaldgoyena3679 6 лет назад
awesome bike
@garrettreven5144
@garrettreven5144 4 года назад
What's the difference between the ZX10r and this one? The specs show about 50cc larger on the 1000, but lower horsepower. Is it just a more hunched over Versys?
@asn3348
@asn3348 6 лет назад
Which bike is better, ninja 1000 or ducati super sport s??
@dry509
@dry509 6 лет назад
So which is more fun and comfortable to ride..this or Versys 1000?
@marcorussellOG
@marcorussellOG 4 года назад
You mentioned new headlight but failed to mention they are dual LED headlights instead of the single halogen from the previous year. I just bought the bike and find the LEDs are a huge improvement for day and night riding. Since you road up the entire state I find it odd you didnt mention this.
@turbo311
@turbo311 6 лет назад
Ninja 1000 keeping the sporty-sport touring class alive! What Happened to the CB1100EX commute??
@cev2387
@cev2387 5 лет назад
This will be my next bike once spring comes around. I currently have a 2017 Ninja 650. Very comfortable but very under powered and all aftermarket exhaust systems sound horrible. Hopefully the 1000 will be the answer to my power and exhaust note issue.
@He_isI
@He_isI 4 года назад
Did you get the ninja 1000? I'm getting a 2020 ninja 650 in a couple of weeks for my 1st bike. Any suggestions?
@hernangelo25
@hernangelo25 Год назад
Hey thank you for the information I will get it 👍
@ViperVenom
@ViperVenom 6 лет назад
Love my 2015 just wish it had cruise control since its so comfy its easy to ride all day. I average 42 mpg riding like i stole it.
@will_hyde
@will_hyde 6 лет назад
Would love a commute on a GSXR 600, thinking of picking one up, can't find any good reviews about commuting on them.
@danilocapellan1316
@danilocapellan1316 4 года назад
Excellent 👍🏼
@kevinkeys1383
@kevinkeys1383 6 лет назад
Motorcycle Mag. Hey Zack, how great a machine to go from WA to NC and back is the Kawasaki 1000 ?
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 2 года назад
Can the wheelie control be turned off? If not can a piggyback ECU fix the problem?
@danmurphy1994
@danmurphy1994 6 лет назад
Zach what are your favorite mirrors?
@stevewallace853
@stevewallace853 6 лет назад
UK price is equivalent to $13598 for the base model, with an addition $894 for the panniers.
@hughjones5832
@hughjones5832 6 лет назад
Has not this bike arrived in the US market with the Bosch cornering ABS yet? As it has in Australia!
@dougo9229
@dougo9229 6 лет назад
Please do an MC Commute on the Yamaha FZ-10. Thanks!
@dblackviper2k3
@dblackviper2k3 4 года назад
What are the chances you guys can get into talks with the insurance companies to bring the rates down? I was looking at getting one but it's nearly 3x the cost of a zx6r for insurance.
@fadetoblackMotorcycle
@fadetoblackMotorcycle 5 лет назад
Hey! I own this bike and I wouldn't recommend it for commuting. first of all for consumption, a bike that takes you to work every day must consume little, and the z1k DOES NOT consume little, secondly, it would be wasted, the consumption of tires, services etc. are expensive. is a sport touring bike, a very fun bike that can brings you very far, that's it ;)
@dominican693
@dominican693 6 лет назад
Can you guys do the Ducati cafe racer?? i know people just think its a fashion statement but i for one think its great to have a sort of cruiser/ city bike without having to buy an actual looking cruiser, if that makes any sense at all.
@WeItenspinner
@WeItenspinner 6 лет назад
Hey Zack, could you commute on a Honda NC750X DCT? It would great to here your opnion about the praticality of DCT in dense traffic, the 55 PS on the motorway and how you would use the tank trunk.. Thanks for your content, have a good one!
@WeItenspinner
@WeItenspinner 6 лет назад
Oh yeah, it is supposed to make 67 mpg. Does it really?
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 6 лет назад
USA gets the NC700X. Europe gets the NC750X. Honda doesn't give the USA priority at all.
@WeItenspinner
@WeItenspinner 6 лет назад
You complain about 50 ccm, while the USA gets nearly double the amount of modells to choose from? Just an example: For Touring you get: Gold Wing, Gold Wing F6B, ST1300, Interstate, CTX1300, NM4, CTX700 DCT. What do we in Europe get? The VFR800F (marketed as Sport bike named Interceptor in NA) and that's it. North America gets to choose from 11 Honda Cruisers, in Germany you can only get the Rebel 500. Go to www.honda.de/motorcycles and see what we can buy without import!
@ooy8663
@ooy8663 6 лет назад
theres no link in the description or on video..
@SuperRoar87
@SuperRoar87 6 лет назад
Is it posible to but up the metric system when you talk about the bikes spes, in like a subtile or some thing like that :D
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 6 лет назад
Ninja 1000 runs about 4,000 rpm at 60 in 6th. GSX-S1000 runs about 4200 at the same speed and gear. Ninja is geared better, but could be better still. At the same time, the GSX has been said to get about 42 mpg in spite of spinning faster, but it is a long-stroke engine by comparison.
@cbas0086
@cbas0086 6 лет назад
Ducati xdiavel s 2017/2108 Agusta any of thier bikes will do.
@dry509
@dry509 6 лет назад
What bike has good gearing and throttle response?
@user-gz5ri7oj1h
@user-gz5ri7oj1h 6 месяцев назад
How about the weight of the bike when stuck in traffic? I'm using a Ninja 650 as my commuter bike and the weight of it is sometimes a factor for me when traffic is heavy
@andy_byrd
@andy_byrd 6 лет назад
Can we get an MC Commute of the Suzuki GSX-S1000F?
@greatkingrat
@greatkingrat 6 лет назад
In NZ you're not allowed to fill the tank while sitting on it....I have no idea why.
@dry509
@dry509 6 лет назад
Which bike does not have the gears too close together please?
@rjpalicte
@rjpalicte 6 лет назад
hey zach, quick question, when you did the mpg computation, where did you get the 144.9? I only got the 4.141 which was the amount of gas in gallons you used to fill up the tank
@zacharyhazard6646
@zacharyhazard6646 2 года назад
tripometer. start at zero when you fill up. Next fill up divide miles ridden by gallons of gas you put in tank. Eazy Peazy
@aragorn777
@aragorn777 6 лет назад
Zack...You said in another video you loved the Versys 650 but hated the Ninja 650. So not same with the 1000's?
@llerradish
@llerradish 6 лет назад
Good job great review. I bet I'd love that bike, but I'll probably never own a bike that new. I have a 97 Concours and a 88 Voyager and a 2012 zx14r. Even though the Concourse and the Voyager are old and totally outclassed buy that bike I still love riding them I guess they have character. I just like riding anything and everything. I guess I tend to see what a bike does good not what it does bad.
@ughxr500a3
@ughxr500a3 6 лет назад
WOW are all gas nozzles so short in USA? less than half ,than the ones here in nz
@kobby30
@kobby30 6 лет назад
I didn't see you filtering through traffic, is it too big for filtering?
@TheBrasscowboy
@TheBrasscowboy 6 лет назад
So when do we get the versys 1000 commute?
@Runawaygeekchannel
@Runawaygeekchannel 6 лет назад
This is a Z1000SX for those not in the US right? Only for me a Ninja is the ZX10R or ZX6R range? Basically a Z1000 with fairing, some touring kit and side boxes?
@PragmaticTornado
@PragmaticTornado 6 лет назад
Correct. Mine is called the Z1000SX (in Europe). Exact same bike without the Ninja stickers.
@Soysaucemoto
@Soysaucemoto 6 лет назад
My 2016 Z1000 does not have traction control, wheelie control or power modes.
@jeremybly
@jeremybly 5 лет назад
I own one and i slay the 636 and am right on the tail of the 10r so its a ninja buddy boy
@mattwilliams7454
@mattwilliams7454 6 лет назад
this bike looks so much nicer in black. seems like a great bike if you're not entirely sure what you want to do with a motorcycle. keep your options open.
@joaogabrielolima
@joaogabrielolima 6 лет назад
Would love to see a 650 bandit commute
@KENENTHMAIRENA
@KENENTHMAIRENA 6 лет назад
Please do the FZ-10 next
@adolforeyes4102
@adolforeyes4102 6 лет назад
Do an FZ-09 or CB commute video next pleases!
@BadBandar59
@BadBandar59 6 лет назад
What bikes does Zack actually own?
@Itzak15
@Itzak15 6 лет назад
Ktm 690 next please lol. I cant be the only one!
@Treizez34
@Treizez34 4 года назад
I'm dumb; when you say gear up (in relation to your comments about curing the buziness around 5-6k rpm) what do you mean specifically?
@bunberrier
@bunberrier 3 года назад
He means he would install a smaller rear sprocket and shorten the chain to accomodate it if need be
@tammyforbes2101
@tammyforbes2101 4 года назад
The reason it’s geared like is that it’s a super sport tranny used for a engine that turns 12-13k rpm so if you was twisting right on past your red line like a normal ZX10 you would be about right but these don’t do that so they run out of gear quick! Best thing to do is gear it up spread them out a little get more top end!
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